Remember when...

**KingofOldSchool** · 03-02-2007, 09:08 AM

Ric Flair jobbed to Rico clean on Raw?

Yeah that was a WTF moment.

**Xero** · 03-02-2007, 09:08 AM

No, lol.

**KingofOldSchool** · 03-02-2007, 09:09 AM

Yeah, it was right before Flair joined up with Triple H.

**Xero** · 03-02-2007, 09:12 AM

Like many of us, the last six years or so is a blur to me.

**KingofOldSchool** · 03-02-2007, 09:20 AM

Yeah likewise, but that was one of the things that stuck out to me.

It was like WTF?? Ric FUCKING Flair jobbed to a homosexual hair stylist.

**Jeritron** · 03-02-2007, 09:29 AM

pretty absurd/rofl if you ask me

03-02-2007, 09:39 AM

03-02-2007, 09:40 AM

Gotta admit it's pretty funny though.

**Pepsi Man** · 03-02-2007, 09:46 AM

Wasn't that Rico's first night on Raw?

**Theo Dious** · 03-02-2007, 09:47 AM

Remember when HHH jobbed cleanly to Shelton Benjamin?

**Jeritron** · 03-02-2007, 10:09 AM

and then made sure to treat it as a fluke.

03-02-2007, 10:14 AM

That's a little different. Say what you want but HHH put him over.

**Theo Dious** · 03-02-2007, 10:15 AM

Yeah, but he could have done a lot more to keep him over.

**Pepsi Man** · 03-02-2007, 10:25 AM

What the fuck, was Trips supposed to wrestle and job to Shelton every week for a year or something? I swear bias against Triple H is fucking ridiculous.

03-02-2007, 10:38 AM

Yeah, that's what I mean. He put him over and did what he should have for their program. I don't like it when people give HHH shit for no reason.

**Theo Dious** · 03-02-2007, 10:40 AM

My suggestion? (Remembering the way things were at the time)

Week 1: Shelton over HHH
Week 2: HHH cuts a promo about how it was a fluke and backs out of a rematch challenge. Later HHH costs Shelton a match against Random Midcarder and then beats him down
Week 3: Shelton costs HHH a match and restates his challenge
Week 4: HHH beats Shelton via countout
PPV: Shelton interferes in HHH's match, almost but not quite costing him the win.
Week 5: Shelton barely squeaks out a win against HHH, feud ends, leaving the door open for future feuding.

**tucsonspeed6** · 03-02-2007, 11:22 AM

From what I recall, HHH jobbed to Benjamin on more than one occasion.

I also recall Benjamin slipping while about to do a springboard and falling flat on his face this week on Raw. Jeff Hardy covered his mistake by making a quick 2 count before they continued the match, and I think he deserves the tiniest of pushes just for that alone. Benjamin botches with Lita-like consistancy, and doesn't deserve a main event spot.

HHH has also jobbed to plenty of other guys and has acted like it was a fluke each other time as well. Remember Eugene? HHH put these guys over the best way a top heel of the company could. How else would a top heel act when a midcarder went over. He'd deny it and call it a fluke. That's what heels do. Would you prefer that he (as the top heel, now...) run like a chicken every time Shelton showed his face or his entrance played on the titantron? Yeah, that's new. WE've only seen that once or twice over the past couple of years

**Theo Dious** · 03-02-2007, 11:28 AM

The problem is that HHH always ends up putting the final excamation point on these little minifueds. The same sort of thing happened with him and the Hurricane too. Instead of using the win to elevate the lower guy, HHH ends up proving to everyone that the win WAS a fluke.

**tucsonspeed6** · 03-02-2007, 11:55 AM

Most top guys wouldn't even give the opportunity to have that fluke victory at all. Guys like Hogan and Taker never lay down for anyone, much less even sell most of the moves. HHH isn't just the top guy either. He's the next in line for the business. He doesn't have to job to anybody. Ever. I think that they general reason for HHH doing the jobs in the first place is to hand these guys the ball and say "Run with it." And most of them fall short. That's why he comes back with a victory over them to save face.

**Theo Dious** · 03-02-2007, 11:58 AM

True enough... HHH can't really be blamed for it, in any case, and it probably annoys me more because it seems like part of HHH's pattern of behavior.

**addy2hotty** · 03-02-2007, 01:05 PM

A man runs up a ladder and jumps and they should hand him the world.

Benjamin just doesn't have 'it'. Sadly.

**Theo Dious** · 03-02-2007, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addy2hotty

A man runs up a ladder and jumps and they should hand him the world.

Benjamin just doesn't have 'it'. Sadly.

A penis?

**The One** · 03-02-2007, 02:12 PM

I am lucky enough to have apparently blocked that out of my memory.

**owenbrown** · 03-02-2007, 02:14 PM

....Wrestling was actually watchable?

**Jeritron** · 03-02-2007, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepsi Man

What the fuck, was Trips supposed to wrestle and job to Shelton every week for a year or something? I swear bias against Triple H is fucking ridiculous.

Nah I'm not bias against Triple H. I think hes a great worker, a great star, and is the goods.
But I resnet him for his abuse of power and inability to promote younger talent in 2003.
I always liked Triple H from 97-2002. After the Jericho debacle, the joke of a year that was 03, and the first half of 04 I resented him.

Sure he cut the crap and put Benoit and Benjamin over, but the way he was booked belittled their rubs. Then came the bullshit with Orton and Evolution.

After that, all has been fine. I'll be the first to tell people to let it die, because in reality, he hasn't held the title in 2 years, and he's put over young talent. He seems to have figured out the right thing, but he'll be back from injury soon.

**NeanderCarl** · 03-02-2007, 03:21 PM

Triple H losing to a wrestler isn't necessarily the same thing as "putting him over". Putting him over is to mke him look like a potential threat. How many guys has Triple H lost to in the last four years who, in kayfabe, you believe could have Triple H's number at any time? How many of Triple H's feuds have made his opponent a bigger star than before the feud?

The only guys that HHH has really allowed to look equal to him are Flair (for a while), Michaels and Batista. All buddies of his.

So Benjamin getting a fluke over Triple H means fuck all if Trips obliterates him the next week. Same goes for Eugene, Booker T, Randy Orton... the list goes on. And on.

**Theo Dious** · 03-02-2007, 03:27 PM

I'm reminded of 2001 when Jeff Hardy beat HHH for the IC title, only for him, Matt, and Lita to be so obliterated by him and Austin that Kane and the Undertaker had to come save them. Definitely not putting anyone over there.

03-02-2007, 09:08 AM	#1
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03-02-2007, 02:14 PM	#24
owenbrown I believe in Joe Hendry Posts: 22,349	Remember when.... ....Wrestling was actually watchable?

03-02-2007, 09:08 AM	#2
Xero He's Here Posts: 60,735	No, lol.

03-02-2007, 09:09 AM	#3
KingofOldSchool ...IN HD!!!! Posts: 23,327	Yeah, it was right before Flair joined up with Triple H.

03-02-2007, 09:12 AM	#4
Xero He's Here Posts: 60,735	Like many of us, the last six years or so is a blur to me.

03-02-2007, 09:20 AM	#5
KingofOldSchool ...IN HD!!!! Posts: 23,327	Yeah likewise, but that was one of the things that stuck out to me. It was like WTF?? Ric FUCKING Flair jobbed to a homosexual hair stylist.

03-02-2007, 09:29 AM	#6
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	pretty absurd/rofl if you ask me

03-02-2007, 09:40 AM	#8
King Steve Guest Posts: n/a	Gotta admit it's pretty funny though.

03-02-2007, 09:46 AM	#9
Pepsi Man Posts: 15,983	Wasn't that Rico's first night on Raw?

03-02-2007, 09:47 AM	#10
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	Remember when HHH jobbed cleanly to Shelton Benjamin?

03-02-2007, 10:09 AM	#11
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	and then made sure to treat it as a fluke.

03-02-2007, 10:14 AM	#12
King Steve Guest Posts: n/a	That's a little different. Say what you want but HHH put him over.

03-02-2007, 10:15 AM	#13
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	Yeah, but he could have done a lot more to keep him over.

03-02-2007, 10:25 AM	#14
Pepsi Man Posts: 15,983	What the fuck, was Trips supposed to wrestle and job to Shelton every week for a year or something? I swear bias against Triple H is fucking ridiculous.

03-02-2007, 10:38 AM	#15
King Steve Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah, that's what I mean. He put him over and did what he should have for their program. I don't like it when people give HHH shit for no reason.

03-02-2007, 10:40 AM	#16
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	My suggestion? (Remembering the way things were at the time) Week 1: Shelton over HHH Week 2: HHH cuts a promo about how it was a fluke and backs out of a rematch challenge. Later HHH costs Shelton a match against Random Midcarder and then beats him down Week 3: Shelton costs HHH a match and restates his challenge Week 4: HHH beats Shelton via countout PPV: Shelton interferes in HHH's match, almost but not quite costing him the win. Week 5: Shelton barely squeaks out a win against HHH, feud ends, leaving the door open for future feuding.

03-02-2007, 11:22 AM	#17
tucsonspeed6 Banned WWE on 1/1/07 Posts: 2,141	From what I recall, HHH jobbed to Benjamin on more than one occasion. I also recall Benjamin slipping while about to do a springboard and falling flat on his face this week on Raw. Jeff Hardy covered his mistake by making a quick 2 count before they continued the match, and I think he deserves the tiniest of pushes just for that alone. Benjamin botches with Lita-like consistancy, and doesn't deserve a main event spot. HHH has also jobbed to plenty of other guys and has acted like it was a fluke each other time as well. Remember Eugene? HHH put these guys over the best way a top heel of the company could. How else would a top heel act when a midcarder went over. He'd deny it and call it a fluke. That's what heels do. Would you prefer that he (as the top heel, now...) run like a chicken every time Shelton showed his face or his entrance played on the titantron? Yeah, that's new. WE've only seen that once or twice over the past couple of years

03-02-2007, 11:28 AM	#18
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	The problem is that HHH always ends up putting the final excamation point on these little minifueds. The same sort of thing happened with him and the Hurricane too. Instead of using the win to elevate the lower guy, HHH ends up proving to everyone that the win WAS a fluke.

03-02-2007, 11:55 AM	#19
tucsonspeed6 Banned WWE on 1/1/07 Posts: 2,141	Most top guys wouldn't even give the opportunity to have that fluke victory at all. Guys like Hogan and Taker never lay down for anyone, much less even sell most of the moves. HHH isn't just the top guy either. He's the next in line for the business. He doesn't have to job to anybody. Ever. I think that they general reason for HHH doing the jobs in the first place is to hand these guys the ball and say "Run with it." And most of them fall short. That's why he comes back with a victory over them to save face.

03-02-2007, 11:58 AM	#20
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	True enough... HHH can't really be blamed for it, in any case, and it probably annoys me more because it seems like part of HHH's pattern of behavior.

03-02-2007, 01:05 PM	#21
addy2hotty yes. yes. yes. Posts: 2,753	A man runs up a ladder and jumps and they should hand him the world. Benjamin just doesn't have 'it'. Sadly.

03-02-2007, 02:12 PM	#23
The One Boss Posts: 17,611	I am lucky enough to have apparently blocked that out of my memory.

03-02-2007, 03:21 PM	#26
NeanderCarl That's Not My Name Posts: 9,086	Triple H losing to a wrestler isn't necessarily the same thing as "putting him over". Putting him over is to mke him look like a potential threat. How many guys has Triple H lost to in the last four years who, in kayfabe, you believe could have Triple H's number at any time? How many of Triple H's feuds have made his opponent a bigger star than before the feud? The only guys that HHH has really allowed to look equal to him are Flair (for a while), Michaels and Batista. All buddies of his. So Benjamin getting a fluke over Triple H means fuck all if Trips obliterates him the next week. Same goes for Eugene, Booker T, Randy Orton... the list goes on. And on.

03-02-2007, 03:27 PM	#27
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	I'm reminded of 2001 when Jeff Hardy beat HHH for the IC title, only for him, Matt, and Lita to be so obliterated by him and Austin that Kane and the Undertaker had to come save them. Definitely not putting anyone over there.