What if Wrestlemania 13 went down like it was suppsoed too....

**94 SVT Cobra** · 03-06-2007, 01:41 PM

I was just thinking, what if WM13 went down like it was supposed to and Bret VS shawn happened....what would have become of Stone cold had he not had that legendary (my favorite) match with bret hart. Granted SCSA would probally have blown up regaurdless, but that was the match that really solidfied him in a lot of peoples eyes.

I think that then ending to that match, wouldnt have been so amazing and career changing if say it was some other wrestler in a generic submission move as opposed to Bret harts sharpshooter which is a WELL respected move to have austin not tap out on. What do you think?

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**Theo Dious** · 03-06-2007, 01:47 PM

I don't know what would have become of Austin if not for that match. That was the exact moment at which people REALLY turned their eyes on him and thought "wow, this guy has something." Would that same match have worked outside of the Wrestlemania environment? Maybe, maybe not, but it's all a big balancing act.

**94 SVT Cobra** · 03-06-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTeedious

I don't know what would have become of Austin if not for that match. That was the exact moment at which people REALLY turned their eyes on him and thought "wow, this guy has something." Would that same match have worked outside of the Wrestlemania environment? Maybe, maybe not, but it's all a big balancing act.

He might have blown up but, i bet my bottom dollar that he wouldnt have been headling the wrestlemania 14 main event 1 year later.

**Theo Dious** · 03-06-2007, 03:15 PM

I definitely agree with that.

**The MAC** · 03-06-2007, 03:17 PM

good question. 3 big playes; shawn, bret, austin. the screwjob might have been averted.Bret might have been the one to dropped the belt to austin at WM14.

**Theo Dious** · 03-06-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MacGyver007

the screwjob might have been averted

Wow, that is a damn fine point.

**St. Jimmy** · 03-06-2007, 04:48 PM

Then Sid wouldn't of shit his pants.

**94 SVT Cobra** · 03-06-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Jimmy

Then Sid wouldn't of shit his pants.

LMAO, good point.

**Mr. Nerfect** · 03-06-2007, 09:52 PM

If the screwjob was adverted (like someone suggested), we might actually still have Bret Hart wrestling in the WWE. Austin may have been given the big push, but I doubt he would have "boomed" per se. I think it is more likely he'd have been another Batista or John Cena, pushed hard by the WWE, and expected to draw. He'd get over, but he wouldn't make the bundle of money he did.

Ultimately, Bret Hart would probably remain the top star, and Austin would have taken a backseat. But I never watched wrestling then, so that is a pretty unqualified opinion.

**94 SVT Cobra** · 03-07-2007, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06

If the screwjob was adverted (like someone suggested), we might actually still have Bret Hart wrestling in the WWE. Austin may have been given the big push, but I doubt he would have "boomed" per se. I think it is more likely he'd have been another Batista or John Cena, pushed hard by the WWE, and expected to draw. He'd get over, but he wouldn't make the bundle of money he did.

Ultimately, Bret Hart would probably remain the top star, and Austin would have taken a backseat. But I never watched wrestling then, so that is a pretty unqualified opinion.

As someone who was watching it at the time (and way before) your somewhat correct but at that time we didnt have john cenas or batistas, no one was really shoved down our throats that we didnt want shoved down our throats if that makes any sense. but your assumption seems valid in the fact that he probally would have been a charcter we really liked and adored, more along the lines of a mick foley just replace the goofeyness you loved with austins attitude, and being kept at a mick foley level. Foley gets a good pop when we see him, but nothing like austin does. I personally feel that in the long run, austin would have been a major player, but not one of THE major players.

**The MAC** · 03-09-2007, 12:59 PM

I think Austin would have been just as big. It may have taken more time though. We probably wouldn't have had the Mr Mchmohan Character.

Can you imagine a 3 way match for the title at WM14 ? Bret (champion) Vs Michaels Vs Austin. Austin winning by stunning bret and then trapping Michaels in the Sharpshooter. I would buy that for a dollar!

**Theo Dious** · 03-09-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06

If the screwjob was adverted (like someone suggested), we might actually still have Bret Hart wrestling in the WWE.

Well Bret would still have gone to WCW if not for the screwjob, and Goldberg would still have kicked him in the head. So I doubt that. But Bret might have something to do with WWE now, and the bitterness might not be quite what it is.

**The MAC** · 03-09-2007, 01:17 PM

no he would have stayed. He said several times that his Hart was witht he WWF and he didn't want to leave. Vince forced him out.

Bret might have captained the WWE team during the invasion. I wonder how bret would have coped with HHH being the position he is in now

**Theo Dious** · 03-09-2007, 01:35 PM

How would the booking of WM13 have changed whether or not Vince forced him out though?

**The MAC** · 03-09-2007, 01:46 PM

no you tit! I meant Hart wanted to stay with the WWE. He never truly wanted to go to wcw. That point has nothign to do with WM13

**Theo Dious** · 03-09-2007, 01:51 PM

I love being called a breast.

Anyways, I think I fell off the train of thought at some point.

**The MAC** · 03-10-2007, 05:40 AM

glad u like it. Its amazing how different things would have been if Shawn jobbed to Bret at WM13.Owen might be alive, bret might still be wrestling. We would have seen a Kurt VS Bret program..Fuck u HBK!

**iwantviral** · 03-10-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MacGyver007

glad u like it. Its amazing how different things would have been if Shawn jobbed to Bret at WM13.Owen might be alive, bret might still be wrestling. We would have seen a Kurt VS Bret program..Fuck u HBK!

You fucktard!! Stop dreaming. Owen (my favorite) is dead. Bret is history and Kurt is unlikely to return. HBK is still headlining Wrestlemanias and is still the Showstopper.

**The One** · 03-10-2007, 05:09 PM

If WrestleMania 13 went down as planed Mr. McMahon character, the screwjob, and Hart going to WCW all would have happened anyway.

McMahon ran out of money for Bret, so Hart went to WCW. Hart in WCW got cuncussion and his career is over. Don't see what Mania 13 has to do with anything of that...

Bret still probably would have been champion at the time he left the company, so the screw job still would have happened.

The Mr. McMahon character was a result o the Screwjob, NOT Austin. The two happen to fit like a hand in a glove, but they did NOT cause each other.

Austin was already HUGE before that match. Don't forget Austin WAS the Royal Rumble winner that year...he was already a big time player.

Odds are Austin still would have had the neck injury from Owen, so he still would have done his running around stunnering people left and right which was what made him famous and popular. The Mr. McMahon character as previously mentioned still would have come through so Austin would have a dick of a boss to flip off no matter what.

Basically, not much would have changed if you ask me...

**James Steele** · 03-10-2007, 11:33 PM

Bret wouldn't have bitched as much going into the Survivor Series.

03-06-2007, 01:47 PM	#2
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	I don't know what would have become of Austin if not for that match. That was the exact moment at which people REALLY turned their eyes on him and thought "wow, this guy has something." Would that same match have worked outside of the Wrestlemania environment? Maybe, maybe not, but it's all a big balancing act.

03-06-2007, 03:15 PM	#4
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	I definitely agree with that.

03-06-2007, 03:17 PM	#5
The MAC VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT Posts: 2,957	good question. 3 big playes; shawn, bret, austin. the screwjob might have been averted.Bret might have been the one to dropped the belt to austin at WM14.

03-06-2007, 04:48 PM	#7
St. Jimmy Last of a Dying Forum Posts: 16,215	Then Sid wouldn't of shit his pants.

03-06-2007, 09:52 PM	#9
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 60,919	If the screwjob was adverted (like someone suggested), we might actually still have Bret Hart wrestling in the WWE. Austin may have been given the big push, but I doubt he would have "boomed" per se. I think it is more likely he'd have been another Batista or John Cena, pushed hard by the WWE, and expected to draw. He'd get over, but he wouldn't make the bundle of money he did. Ultimately, Bret Hart would probably remain the top star, and Austin would have taken a backseat. But I never watched wrestling then, so that is a pretty unqualified opinion.

03-09-2007, 12:59 PM	#11
The MAC VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT Posts: 2,957	I think Austin would have been just as big. It may have taken more time though. We probably wouldn't have had the Mr Mchmohan Character. Can you imagine a 3 way match for the title at WM14 ? Bret (champion) Vs Michaels Vs Austin. Austin winning by stunning bret and then trapping Michaels in the Sharpshooter. I would buy that for a dollar!

03-09-2007, 01:17 PM	#13
The MAC VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT Posts: 2,957	no he would have stayed. He said several times that his Hart was witht he WWF and he didn't want to leave. Vince forced him out. Bret might have captained the WWE team during the invasion. I wonder how bret would have coped with HHH being the position he is in now

03-09-2007, 01:35 PM	#14
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	How would the booking of WM13 have changed whether or not Vince forced him out though?

03-09-2007, 01:46 PM	#15
The MAC VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT Posts: 2,957	no you tit! I meant Hart wanted to stay with the WWE. He never truly wanted to go to wcw. That point has nothign to do with WM13

03-09-2007, 01:51 PM	#16
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	I love being called a breast. Anyways, I think I fell off the train of thought at some point.

03-10-2007, 05:40 AM	#17
The MAC VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT Posts: 2,957	glad u like it. Its amazing how different things would have been if Shawn jobbed to Bret at WM13.Owen might be alive, bret might still be wrestling. We would have seen a Kurt VS Bret program..Fuck u HBK!

03-10-2007, 05:09 PM	#19
The One Boss Posts: 17,611	If WrestleMania 13 went down as planed Mr. McMahon character, the screwjob, and Hart going to WCW all would have happened anyway. McMahon ran out of money for Bret, so Hart went to WCW. Hart in WCW got cuncussion and his career is over. Don't see what Mania 13 has to do with anything of that... Bret still probably would have been champion at the time he left the company, so the screw job still would have happened. The Mr. McMahon character was a result o the Screwjob, NOT Austin. The two happen to fit like a hand in a glove, but they did NOT cause each other. Austin was already HUGE before that match. Don't forget Austin WAS the Royal Rumble winner that year...he was already a big time player. Odds are Austin still would have had the neck injury from Owen, so he still would have done his running around stunnering people left and right which was what made him famous and popular. The Mr. McMahon character as previously mentioned still would have come through so Austin would have a dick of a boss to flip off no matter what. Basically, not much would have changed if you ask me...

03-10-2007, 11:33 PM	#20
James Steele TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04 Posts: 29,886	Bret wouldn't have bitched as much going into the Survivor Series.