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Old 03-06-2007, 05:25 PM   #1
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Poor Poor Punk...
From Prowrestling.com

According to several sources in contact with Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, CM Punk has earned himself even more heat backstage.

After learning that he was booked to lose on a house show card two weeks ago, Punk reportedly asked one of the road agents if the reports of him being in WWE's doghouse were true. The agent denied the idea that there was heat on Punk. However, the road agent did an about-face by telling his colleagues about the conversation he had with Punk, giving them the idea that Punk was complaining about doing the job. He now has more heat than ever.

If he did jobs and didn't react like Carlito, Rob Van Dam and Shelton Benjamin, the story would be that he doesn't care or he doesn't have any passion for wrestling. So well, Punk is currently in a tough spot to say the least.


Basically he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.










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Old 03-06-2007, 05:37 PM   #2
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:39 PM   #3
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:25 PM   #4
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Wow, what an asshole(the road agent). LOL. I doubt they'll do anything. It's not like jobbing at a house show hurt his credibility and I doubt they'll hurt his push on TV anyway.
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Be damned Punk!

Scrub that glass ceiling BOYO, scrub it til you can see....er....your main event push in it!
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:50 PM   #6
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I'd sit through Mania, a few more big events and then fuck 'em.
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I'd sit through Mania, a few more big events and then fuck Maria and then leave.
It's a damn shame the WWE are being so bitter towards the guy. He's pretty much one of only a few people on the WWE roster with potential star quality about them. Guys like CM Punk are closer to booming the company than a John Cena or Bobby Lashley.

Mick Foley said in a recent interview that the WWE has dropped the ball with Punk, and I agree with him wholeheartedly.
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Once KENTA Punk stops stealing from other people, I'll give a damn about him again.
He's awesome behind the mic, but in the ring he's the Dane Cook of wrestling- a freakin' hack who steals from other people.
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Once KENTA Punk stops stealing from other people, I'll give a damn about him again.
He's awesome behind the mic, but in the ring he's the Dane Cook of wrestling- a freakin' hack who steals from other people.
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Once KENTA Punk stops stealing from other people, I'll give a damn about him again.
He's awesome behind the mic, but in the ring he's the Dane Cook of wrestling- a freakin' hack who steals from other people.
Oh please cry me a river.

Kennedy stole the Kenton Bomb from Jeff Hardy
Chris Benoit stole the Crossface from Dean Malenko
Everybody steals the DDT from Jake Roberts
Taker stole the Tombstone from the Dynamite Kid
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Oh please cry me a river.

Kennedy stole the Kenton Bomb from Jeff Hardy
Chris Benoit stole the Crossface from Dean Malenko
Everybody steals the DDT from Jake Roberts
Taker stole the Tombstone from the Dynamite Kid
etc etc
John Cena stole the Fireman's Carry from the first page of the wrestling manual.

People make it sound like every single move you do in a match must be original and completely your's. OMG! Punk did a punch! He's got no talent! He's a thief!
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Don't forget the suplex, who ever started using that must be suplexing himself in his grave.
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The three hit combo Punk does came from KENTA, same with Go 2 Sleep.
The chlostline/bulldog combo came from Matt Hardy, who I think got it from Raven.
Chris Jericho was doing the double underhook backbreaker before Punk did Welcome To Chicago.

I'll give props where they are earned, and no wrestler that I've seen has earned as much, and lost as much in my book as CM Punk. He's great, full of potential, love his promos, taking his life style and turning it into his persona is awesome makes him look real.
For every bad thing I have to say about Punk, I have a good thing to say.
The dude is full of potential, I cannot stress that enough. The dude is also getting mildy screwed over. WWE is dropping the ball on him and in my eyes WWE is somehow has the logic to blame Punk.

Punk just needs to do one thing to make me cheer for him again, and I'll be marking out like there's no tomorrow. Until then, I don't care.
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Don't forget the suplex, who ever started using that must be suplexing himself in his grave.


On a more serious note, at No Way Out it actually pained me when Michael Cole claimed Eddie Guerrero invented the Frog Splash.

I think I saw "suplex" and "grave" in a the context of "move innovation", and immediately though of the liberties the WWE has taken with the life and death of Eddie Guerrero.
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The three hit combo Punk does came from KENTA, same with Go 2 Sleep.
The chlostline/bulldog combo came from Matt Hardy, who I think got it from Raven.
Chris Jericho was doing the double underhook backbreaker before Punk did Welcome To Chicago.

I'll give props where they are earned, and no wrestler that I've seen has earned as much, and lost as much in my book as CM Punk. He's great, full of potential, love his promos, taking his life style and turning it into his persona is awesome makes him look real.
For every bad thing I have to say about Punk, I have a good thing to say.
The dude is full of potential, I cannot stress that enough. The dude is also getting mildy screwed over. WWE is dropping the ball on him and in my eyes WWE is somehow has the logic to blame Punk.

Punk just needs to do one thing to make me cheer for him again, and I'll be marking out like there's no tomorrow. Until then, I don't care.
The striking combination is what? A few blows? It's not like CM Punk took his screenplay and adapted it without permission.

The Go 2 Sleep is a fireman's carry into a roundhouse kick isn't it? That must have taken years to come up with.

Did Jericho invent the butterfly backbreaker? I'm sure it must have existed before him. I'm sure I've seen Roderick Strong do it, too. After all, he is "Messiah of the Backbreaker".

The clothesline and bulldog would be classified as separate moves, and yes, Hardy and Raven have both done them in that order, but the clothesline and bulldog predates both men.

Besides, one of Punk's greatest feuds was with Raven, and he played his follower in TNA. He probably knows the guy really well, so him using it is probably a shout-out to the guy.

If moves being stolen somehow was an issue (and it isn't, but anywho), Punk at least does it in a tone that pays homage, or that seems inspired by those wrestlers. There's nothing wrong with emulating a wrestler's style, or using moves which you yourself didn't invent.

I appreciate you trying to use reason, and I understand that it's a personal reason you don't want to get behind him, but I think it is a bit unreasonable to really take points off a guy before he didn't invent the move. Kurt Angle didn't invent the Ankle Lock, does that make his career mean nothing?
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Bret Hart didn't invent his 5 Moves of Doom, that means he's the most overrated wrestler in history.
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Don't forget the suplex, who ever started using that must be suplexing himself in his grave.
And then he realizes he is still alive and starts screaming for people to get him out of here.
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In the first ever wrestling match, what the hell would the commentors say,

JR: OH BAH GAWD, What was that?
King: Puppies!...... Seriously I have no clue

*Next Match*

JR: Im getting the feeling of Deja Vu, Haven't I seen this before
King: Yeah Puppies! That move is the figure one leg lock and there he goes with the *gasp* Sliced Bread Number ONE
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Old 03-07-2007, 12:51 AM   #25
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It definitely seems like Punk rubs people the wrong way. I mean, the guy has been in the dog house and reportedly pissed a lot of people off during his stay in the WWE. Can it really ALL be because ''he's damned if he does and damned if he don't' excuse. At some point when do you start to think, well maybe Punk is the stupid one causing the problems.
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Punk to TNA real soon.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:37 AM   #28
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He did steal the multiple German suplexes, tho.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:38 AM   #29
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Old 03-07-2007, 03:29 AM   #32
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I really don't think that Punk is in the dog house, he's jobbed, what, 3 times on TV? That's it!

He's in the MITB match, he gets TV time every week.

Plus from the sound of it, IF this story is true and it's mis communication, it managed to make it's way to the internet, so chances are the WWE higher ups read it as well, or at least know about it.

If being in CM Punks spot right now is being in the dog house, I think plenty of mid carders would like to be there as well
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:51 AM   #33
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I'm srsly hoping Punk seals a deal with ANYWHERE else, then fucks WWE over by breaking kayfabe hardcore and shooting. I would LOL.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:53 AM   #34
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In the first ever wrestling match, what the hell would the commentors say,

JR: OH BAH GAWD, What was that?
King: Puppies!...... Seriously I have no clue

Their commentary hasn't changed much through the years, has it?
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:57 AM   #35
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Upon reading this thread and seeing a lot of the comments, I'm still wondering about this 'genuine star quality' that he has comes from. Still waiting to see it.

Nothing Punk has done has made me go 'shiiiit, he is going places'.

There is obviously a reason he's not on top. I can't believe its down to the age old excuse of being held down. I don't think that excuse washes in this day and age. He comes across an arrogant prick on his website and probably does backstage.
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Upon reading this thread and seeing a lot of the comments, I'm still wondering about this 'genuine star quality' that he has comes from. Still waiting to see it.

Nothing Punk has done has made me go 'shiiiit, he is going places'.

There is obviously a reason he's not on top. I can't believe its down to the age old excuse of being held down. I don't think that excuse washes in this day and age. He comes across an arrogant prick on his website and probably does backstage.
The guy is probably one of those "emo" fucks who thinks being themself and being "honest" isn't worth compromising for success. He probably doesn't fuck Finlay in the showers, so he's not well liked by the veterans. They're also probably jealous he's got more of a following than they likely ever will, and he fucks Maria.

To see his star quality, watch Survivor Series '06. I do not know how anyone cannot watch that and not sense some kind of upwards momentum bigger than anyone else in that match. When Triple H and Shawn Michaels are a part of that match, it should scream "star".

He's one of the few ring psychologists left out there, very similar to a Raven-like competitor. He's one of the best talkers in the business, today. He's never really cut a real stand-out promo in the WWE. This is their loss, as when the guy takes the stick is when he really oozes charisma. That carries into his matches.

CM Punk and Mr. Kennedy are two men who I am sure go together like an Austin/Rock duo. In a few years, if not within the next year, these two men will be on top of the wrestling world, one way or another.
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The Rock stole the People's Eyebrow from Mr. Spock. And their names even rhyme. Shit. What a fraud.
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The Rock stole the People's Eyebrow from Mr. Spock. And their names even rhyme. Shit. What a fraud.
The Rock then went on to play the lead role in DOOM, a movie set in space...Spock's hometown! The bastard!
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