TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > w r e s t l i n g > wrestling forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-13-2007, 03:01 PM   #1
NeanderCarl
That's Not My Name
 
NeanderCarl's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,086
NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
The Samurai Warrior, Mister Fuji.

I can't believe how young he is. He's 72 years old now. That means that when he was managing Demolition in 1987 (arguably his prime as a manager, despite of Yokozuna) he was only 52. I always remember thinking he was ancient even back then. I checked his Wikipedia entry, thinking he must be in his 90s by now, but nope.
NeanderCarl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 03:03 PM   #2
NeanderCarl
That's Not My Name
 
NeanderCarl's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,086
NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Last time I saw him in 1996, he looked like a frail, decrepit old man who could barely move. Imagine the state on him now!
NeanderCarl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 03:22 PM   #3
NeanderCarl
That's Not My Name
 
NeanderCarl's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,086
NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Hmmm... not really much to discuss about this thread though, is there?

Uh... any favourite Mr Fuji memories??

Or any memorable Fuji interviews??

Does he even deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? I never bought into him much as a manager. I'm thinking Fuji should have been inducted as a tag team, together with the late Toru Tanaka.
NeanderCarl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 03:40 PM   #4
redoneja
 
Posts: 5,629
redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)
I remember Fuji's antics during the Wrestlemania V weekend. Back then they had a 5k run for Mania weekend. Fuji was going to show how in shape he was for his match with the Powers of Pain against Demolition so he decided to run the 5k. You see him take off from the starting line, and then miraculously, he's like one of the first people across the finish line. Come to find out he ran off the course and got into a car, which drove him almost all the way to the finish line. Oh Mr Fuji, you so crazy.
redoneja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 04:03 PM   #5
FourFifty
As over as Crystal Pepsi
 
FourFifty's Avatar
 
Posts: 21,639
FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)FourFifty got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Mr. Fuji was a one trick pony, but damned if he wasn't the best at that one trick.
FourFifty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 04:09 PM   #6
KayfabeMan
TPWW's Glass Ceiling
 
KayfabeMan's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,793
KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeanderCarl
Last time I saw him in 1996, he looked like a frail, decrepit old man who could barely move. Imagine the state on him now!
If you were taking bumps every night for 20 years, you'd barely be able to move as well. And that's when they bumped for more than 5 minutes at a time like they do today. If you call what's done nowadays bumping.
KayfabeMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 04:12 PM   #7
KayfabeMan
TPWW's Glass Ceiling
 
KayfabeMan's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,793
KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Also, Fuji certainly does deserve to be in the HoF.

He had an amazing career, and contributed a great deal to the business. His time in the PNW, Hawaii, California, WWWF / WWF was awesome - and he'd remained a great performer and draw for quite some time. Made WWF some great $$$ and certainly was a valuable asset to work with; nevermind work as a manager in the 1980's and 1990's. Good for him
KayfabeMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 04:13 PM   #8
tucsonspeed6
Banned WWE on 1/1/07
 
tucsonspeed6's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,141
tucsonspeed6 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)tucsonspeed6 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)tucsonspeed6 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)tucsonspeed6 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)tucsonspeed6 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)tucsonspeed6 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
Was that the "Choppy choppy pee pee" guy?
tucsonspeed6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 04:14 PM   #9
NeanderCarl
That's Not My Name
 
NeanderCarl's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,086
NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
No that was photographer Wally Yamaguchi.
NeanderCarl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 04:16 PM   #10
NeanderCarl
That's Not My Name
 
NeanderCarl's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,086
NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by KayfabeMan
If you were taking bumps every night for 20 years, you'd barely be able to move as well. And that's when they bumped for more than 5 minutes at a time like they do today. If you call what's done nowadays bumping.
Not saying you're wrong about Fuji being inducted, you seem to have seen more of his in-ring work than I have... but let's be fair back in those days, the matches may have been longer than 5 minutes, but a lot less happened in them. The old school guys were masterful at working a crowd, which they tended to rely on more than taking any risky bumps or high octane action.
NeanderCarl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 04:58 PM   #11
KayfabeMan
TPWW's Glass Ceiling
 
KayfabeMan's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,793
KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
It doesn't have to be risky to cause damage, that's the thing. Especially when it's so consistent to be every night like that, simple bumps add up to a lot of back damage and whatnot.

Look at a guy like Iron Sheik, who can barely walk now, and he was definitely a very good ground wrestler. Just the bumping and injuries add up and hurt a great deal.

Also, the thing about back then to remember is, the face had the easy job. The heel was constantly bumping & Fuji was definitely a heel far more than a face. Faces took the rest hold moves, as you basically mentioned, and heels took all the bumps.
KayfabeMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 05:28 PM   #12
wwe2222
 
wwe2222's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,398
wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
not to mention he was a 5 time tag team champ if im not mistaken
wwe2222 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 06:22 PM   #13
Pepsi Man
 
Pepsi Man's Avatar
 
Posts: 15,983
Pepsi Man has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Pepsi Man has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Pepsi Man has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Pepsi Man has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Pepsi Man has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Pepsi Man has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Pepsi Man has a great deal of rep (15,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by KayfabeMan
It doesn't have to be risky to cause damage, that's the thing. Especially when it's so consistent to be every night like that, simple bumps add up to a lot of back damage and whatnot.

Look at a guy like Iron Sheik, who can barely walk now, and he was definitely a very good ground wrestler. Just the bumping and injuries add up and hurt a great deal.

Also, the thing about back then to remember is, the face had the easy job. The heel was constantly bumping & Fuji was definitely a heel far more than a face. Faces took the rest hold moves, as you basically mentioned, and heels took all the bumps.
The other thing is back in the day, there was a lot bigger emphasis as selling wrestling to crowds and people as REAL and legit, not just "realistic".
Pepsi Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 07:26 PM   #14
Jordan
It's a blood match!
 
Jordan's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,382
Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jordan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
When I lived in TN Fuji lived in my neighboorhood. Haha, I hooked him up with valume(sp?) for his wife. He works at a movie theatre in Knoxville.
Jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 11:31 PM   #15
NeanderCarl
That's Not My Name
 
NeanderCarl's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,086
NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)NeanderCarl puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve Hall of Fame recognition, just that maybe he should be inducted with Tanaka as a tag team. Much like The Blackjacks and the Valiants are questionable as Hall of Famers on a solo basis, but their tag team efforts are worthy. Well... not sure bout the Valiants, actually, but there you go.
NeanderCarl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 11:41 PM   #16
Executioner
I'm A Tazz Dan Guy
 
Executioner's Avatar
 
Posts: 735
Executioner is pretty cool (5,000+)Executioner is pretty cool (5,000+)Executioner is pretty cool (5,000+)Executioner is pretty cool (5,000+)
Mr. Fuji....

Oh i love Mr. Fuji....

Executioner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2007, 11:49 PM   #17
Gone Mad
EL MERO MERO!
 
Gone Mad's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,259
Gone Mad is good (20,000+)Gone Mad is good (20,000+)Gone Mad is good (20,000+)Gone Mad is good (20,000+)Gone Mad is good (20,000+)Gone Mad is good (20,000+)Gone Mad is good (20,000+)Gone Mad is good (20,000+)
Fuji was the man back in those days. If there were any fav memories, it be anything with Yokozuna. That one home video with him showing how much Yoko can eat was hilarious.
Gone Mad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 09:03 AM   #18
Theo Dious
EATER OF HOT POCKETS
 
Theo Dious's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,340
Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Theo Dious got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Suit/Bowler Hat/Cane Fuji > Pajamas/Bald Head/Japanese Flag Fuji
Theo Dious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 09:51 AM   #19
ttetf
 
Posts: 133
ttetf has more than 1,000 rep points (1,000+)ttetf has more than 1,000 rep points (1,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeanderCarl
Not saying you're wrong about Fuji being inducted, you seem to have seen more of his in-ring work than I have... but let's be fair back in those days, the matches may have been longer than 5 minutes, but a lot less happened in them. The old school guys were masterful at working a crowd, which they tended to rely on more than taking any risky bumps or high octane action.


Weren't the rings a lot stiffer way back when too? Just saying, simple bumps like a slam or even just dropping after a closthesline night after night probably added up to more damage than those moves do by todays rings.
ttetf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 10:32 AM   #20
311
Five-Oh-Seven
 
311's Avatar
 
Posts: 763
311 is "reptacular" (2,500+)311 is "reptacular" (2,500+)311 is "reptacular" (2,500+)
The Orient Express was one of my favorite teams to watch back in the day.

And markishly, I used to love watching Tanaka get tossed around.
311 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 11:38 AM   #21
KayfabeMan
TPWW's Glass Ceiling
 
KayfabeMan's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,793
KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ttetf
Weren't the rings a lot stiffer way back when too? Just saying, simple bumps like a slam or even just dropping after a closthesline night after night probably added up to more damage than those moves do by todays rings.
In most cases, yes
KayfabeMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2007, 11:31 PM   #22
redoneja
 
Posts: 5,629
redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)redoneja is good (20,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 311
The Orient Express was one of my favorite teams to watch back in the day.

And markishly, I used to love watching Tanaka get tossed around.
Pretty sure that's two different Tanaka's.
redoneja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2007, 12:39 AM   #23
KayfabeMan
TPWW's Glass Ceiling
 
KayfabeMan's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,793
KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Yeah, one was Pat Tanaka - who was teamed with Kato / Paul Diamond - they used to be in the AWA with DDP before going to WWF as The Orient Express. They left AWA right around the same period The Rockers did and headed to WWE.

The other Tanaka was the late Toru Tanaka - a fairly well-known character actor who had a very successful wrestling career as well. He was a double threat in wrestling and acting, and was successful at both duties.

Neither are, to my knowledge, related to Masato Tanaka in any way. Before anyone asks and / or makes that suggestion.
KayfabeMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2007, 03:58 AM   #24
Mr. JL
 
Posts: 4,834
Mr. JL is good (20,000+)Mr. JL is good (20,000+)Mr. JL is good (20,000+)Mr. JL is good (20,000+)Mr. JL is good (20,000+)Mr. JL is good (20,000+)Mr. JL is good (20,000+)Mr. JL is good (20,000+)
The fact that Mr. fuji is still alive proves that this business has the potential to produce great athletes and entertainers who don't need to pump themseleves full of steroids to be appealing to the casual viewer.

He also proves that if you make healthy life choices, (like not endulging in drugs or alcohol...) that you can live a long life, even despite the grueling wear and tear that being in a wrestling ring does to you're body and health.
Mr. JL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2007, 04:02 AM   #25
KayfabeMan
TPWW's Glass Ceiling
 
KayfabeMan's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,793
KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)KayfabeMan puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
KayfabeMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®