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Pelvic Sorcerer
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An indepth look at the Kliq #1 - Sean Waltman
First off I had the idea to look at ever member of the Kliq individually in a series of column style threads. Why the Kliq? Because for better or worse they have had one of the biggest impact as a group in the world of wrestling in the past 20 years. I've also decided to start with the black sheep of the group:
Sean Waltman AKA: Lighting Kid 1-2-3 Kid Syxx SyxxPac X-Pac That annyoing greasy rat that won't get off my fucking tv Titles: MEWF Light Heavyweight Championship (1) PWA Iron Horse Television Championship (1) PWA Light Heavyweight Championship (2) PWA Tag Team Championship (1) TNA X Division Championship (1) WCW Cruiserweight Championship (1) WWF European Championship (2) WWF Light Heavyweight Championship (2) WWF World Tag Team Championship (4) XPW Television Championship (1) Waltman began his career under the watchful eye of the legendary (and boring) Malenkos. After training he did whatever young wrestler did, work anywhere that would pay him, from America to Japan and back again. After bumping around indy feds he finally landed a jobber spot in the WWF. There is where he formed up with the Kliq and his career (for lack of a better word) took off. Winning his first WWE match again Scott Hall, then working as Razor Ramone. He would go on to play an underdog roll for most of the rest of his first stint in the WWF. After Hall and Nash left for WCW and started nWo, Waltman followed them fast and joined the ranks of the nWo. In WCW under the banner of the nWo Waltman's career florished until a neck injury sidelined him. While recovering one Eric Bischoff Fed-Exed Waltman his pink slip, as was the style of time. Bischoff did this as a warning to Hall and Nash that even the notorious Kliq wasn't bullet proof. After being fired, Waltman showed up the night after Wrestlemainia XIV on WWF Monday Night Raw and joined Paul Levesque (working as Triple H) in D-X. This was one of the most shocking events of Waltman's career. Up until that point, wrestlers had been jumping ship from WWF to WCW. Waltman was the first to jump back to WWF, thus starting to turn the tide in the Monday night war. This was very fortunate for the WWF, as for Waltman his career was on the way down. For the first few months, he remained on a fairly even keel in the WWF. But once back in the ring, he was a shell of his former self. At first this didn't really seem to matter as he rode the D-X wave of popularity. After story lines had the group splinter, X-Pac's act quickly became stale. As a heel, he took advice from Levesque to limit his move set to gain heat. This did work, Waltman gained heat...a heat that could only be referred to as X-Pac heat. X-Pac heat for the most part crippled Waltman's WWF career. It did not mate what he did, he could not seem to shake the stigma of X-Pac heat. People hated him as a heel, but not in the way they were suppose to. It was not I wanna see this guy get beat up, it was I want this guy off my television. Face turns did not seem to help either. As X-Pac, Waltman drifted from middle card fued to middle card feud before finally being released from WWE. Since then he has appeared on TNA and more recently the failed MTV promotion WSX. Sean Waltman was once one of the most promising young wrestlers and even more had aligned himself with one of the most influential groups in wrestling history. While not have a horrible career, in fact there were/are a few very bright spots it will always be one of the most questioned. For the most part he had the tools to do better and the connections but for whatever reason never accomplished more. While the Waltman story is not done yet, it seems to have winded down to its last few chapter in mainstream wrestling. Discuss. |
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Smitten for Kittens
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What's there to discuss?
... It's X-Pac. |
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Smitten for Kittens
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Also, you mentioned WSX... but not that he had sex with Chyna. Wtf. I would easily consider One Night in Chyna to be a bigger career highlight than working a three-something episode series of crap eating contests on MTV.
Am I wrong in pointing out that Chyna's the only man to have had sex with multiple Kliq members? |
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Pelvic Sorcerer
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You bring up interesting points.
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I am the cheese
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X-Pac is easily the easiest member of the Klique. Obviously, unless you count Credible and/or Hebner...and let's not. Neither of those men actually had the political clout that the Klique was known for. On top of that as an in ring performer he was well below those around him. While more technically sound than say a Kevin Nash, Nash was able to connect to the audience. Something the Kid could never do a on a meaningful level. Furthermore in the ring falls far from the likes of H or HBK, even Hall.
Still despite his shortcomings compared to his peers he was/is at times a better worker than a lot of people. Unfortunately the shadow of HBK and H (his predecessors in leading DX,) was far to large for a guy like Syxx to shine threw and led to the crowd to very famously no sell him. In turn causing the majority of people to remember him for "X-Pac heat." Long story short, the guy doesn't get as much credit for his performances he deserves, but compared to the rest of the Klique- X-pac does indeed, suck. |
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Boss
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I love Waltman. Always have. He's the fuckin man and a top choice as far as small guys go. Syxx was fuckin' awesome.
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It's a blood match!
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Pretty much every indy report I read with Waltman they say he was awesome, does anyone have any recent indy vids of him?
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Pelvic Sorcerer
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As over as Crystal Pepsi
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A thread about X-Pac? You know what that means. Piss Break!
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Polyam cult member #420
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facebook.com/bloquemen
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I like his in ring work, but hate his fucking annoying gimmick that isn't even a gimmick. He's just... really annoying.
I remember a match he had against the Rock on a Raw years ago. It was for the title. You knew he wasn't going to win, but watching that match, I believed he was and could have won the title. It was insane. If he can still go, I wouldn't mind seeing him on tv again.... Provided he stops the crotch chops and all that annoying shit. |
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TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04
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He's never meant anything to me. I remember when he showed up when HHH was forming DX and hearing JR make the 'What a coup has been pulled here' or something like that. Or, maybe it was the King. Anyway, I didn't give a shit then, and don't give a shit now.
In fact, I am so fucking happy I don't have to hear another screamy, annoying promo about him 'ripping ass' on someone that I think I'll have a cigarette. |
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VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT
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i'd mark out for the brooklyn brwaler more than i would for x-pac.
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Adminstigator
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He was pretty good before the injuries. His downfall was really his attitude, which may (i say yes) have been tied to his drug use. He tried (didn't) to live off his name and fame without ever changing anything about himself.
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Higher. Further. Faster.
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Not a bad wrestler in the slightest but his 'impact' on the world of wrestling involves puking on himself to the amusement of the real main eventers and banging a female impersonator.
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As over as Crystal Pepsi
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Barry Horwitz > Sean Waltman
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Pelvic Sorcerer
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Don t get me wrong, I presonally never liked Waltman, but did he ever have a chance to because the next Shawn Micheals, or was the only reason he ever got pushed because he hung out with the Kliq?
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Pelvic Sorcerer
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I mean if Waltman never was with the Kliq, I probably would have seen him the way I see every other Indy wrestler, sure he can do pretty much anything in the ring, but he doesn't know how to connect witht he audience in any meaningful way.
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They/Them
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LOL
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