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Old 04-22-2007, 10:41 PM   #1
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The most elite of all real tag teams
From my count there are now 4 incredibly elite real tag teams:

Edge and Christian
Rock and Sock Connection
APA
Brother's of Destruction

Now guess why they are so elite.
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:50 PM   #2
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The Road Warriors, 'nuff said.
You cannot talk about tag teams without them, and I'd like to know why they aren't on your list of four.
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:52 PM   #4
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And I would say because both members won a world title, but there are a lot of teams left off that list if that's the reasoning behind it.
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And I would say because both members won a world title, but there are a lot of teams left off that list if that's the reasoning behind it.
Really, what other real tag teams have both won world titles?
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I'm going to assume "Two Random Main Eventers" don't count. (ie- Cena & HBK, Rated RKO, Steve Austin and Triple H, etc)
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All those tag teams had both members as World Champions
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Diesel & Shawn Michaels sure as hell should count.

So should DX.
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From my count there are now 4 incredibly elite real tag teams:

Edge and Christian
Rock and Sock Connection
APA
Brother's of Destruction

Now guess why they are so elite.
My guess they are so elite is that both members held a World Title.

Edge held WWE while Christan was TNA champ
Both Mick and Rock held WWE
Bradshaw held WWE and Simmons held I believe WCW.
Both Taker and Kane have held WWE
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Well actually... I suppose you have a point. I guess you could point to Money Inc, but they held lesser world titles. :meh:

ANyway, that was the connection correct?

And I don't consider Rock'n'Sock a real team now that I think about it. Or bothers of destruction for that matter... well no more so than teams like the two man power trip, Edge and Rey, Kurt and Beniot, Kane and Mankind, Van Dam and Sabu, etc.
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Diesel & Shawn Michaels sure as hell should count.

So should DX.
Agreed
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Diesel & Shawn Michaels sure as hell should count.

So should DX.
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How are The Rock and Sock and Brothers of Destruction any more "real" tag teams than say...Benoit and Jericho, or Eddie and Rey, or other team ups along those lines?

To me I'd say a "real" tag team would be a team that consisted of members who weren't established stars or champions beforehand, and got over as a tag team. Then how they went on in singles from there would determine how "elite" they are in terms of this criteria.

The brothers of destruction were both world champions before teaming up, and it was just a team up anyhow.

Same with the Rock and Sock. What makes them more real than any other superstar pairing? Because they have a clever name?

Other tag teams had situations where one member was a world champion beforehand, or the two parties involved were succesful singles stars.

A real tag team would be Edge and Christian. They both went on to successful singles careers afterwards but they really got over as a team first.

Benoit and Jericho were tag champions before splitting up, but it was merely a team up and both hadn't won WWE world gold yet at the point of their teaming. However they're not "real" tag teams in the sense that Edge and Christian, LOD, The Rockers, Hart Foundation, NAO, The Hardys and others are.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:09 PM   #15
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Diesel & Shawn Michaels sure as hell should count.

So should DX.
I accept Nash and Micheals...they were decent.

DX was never a tag team, they were a faction, and if you mean HHH and Micheals, they were never tag champs.
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What about Edge and Rey, Kurt and Beniot, Kane and Mankind, Van Dam and Sabu, etc. then.

Edge/Rey, Beniot/Angle were Smackdowns top teams circa 2000. Kane and Mick were always teaming at first and Van Dam/Sabu from ECW.
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How are The Rock and Sock and Brothers of Destruction any more "real" tag teams than say...Benoit and Jericho, or Eddie and Rey, or other team ups along those lines?

To me I'd say a "real" tag team would be a team that consisted of members who weren't established stars or champions beforehand, and got over as a tag team. Then how they went on in singles from there would determine how "elite" they are in terms of this criteria.

The brothers of destruction were both world champions before teaming up, and it was just a team up anyhow.

Same with the Rock and Sock. What makes them more real than any other superstar pairing? Because they have a clever name?

Other tag teams had situations where one member was a world champion beforehand, or the two parties involved were succesful singles stars.

A real tag team would be Edge and Christian. They both went on to successful singles careers afterwards but they really got over as a team first.

Benoit and Jericho were tag champions before splitting up, but it was merely a team up and both hadn't won WWE world gold yet at the point of their teaming. However they're not "real" tag teams in the sense that Edge and Christian, LOD, The Rockers, Hart Foundation, NAO, The Hardys and others are.
I don't agree completely. Rock and Sock is arguable. By your defination APA couldn't be considered becaues Ron Simmons had already been champion, and his singles career has winded down.

I would argue that Taker and Kane being "brothers" implies they were moron than just two singles starts thrown together.

Also, it confuses me when your bring up Eddie and Rey, Eddy was a world champion, Rey was not.
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Jericho/Christian could possibly argued as well.

Oh and Sting/Luger is certainly worthy of being mentioned. And I think Power Team USA should be noted as well.
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No he didn't. For some reason WWE decided to vacate the World Heavywieght championship in the 2006 Wrestlemainia and it wasn't until Judgement day that WWE decided to reactivate the title and award it to King Booker.
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Jericho/Christian could possibly argued as well.

Oh and Sting/Luger is certainly worthy of being mentioned. And I think Power Team USA should be noted as well.
Interesting points. Vitaimin C could be argued.
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No he didn't. For some reason WWE decided to vacate the World Heavywieght championship in the 2006 Wrestlemainia and it wasn't until Judgement day that WWE decided to reactivate the title and award it to King Booker.
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I don't agree completely. Rock and Sock is arguable. By your defination APA couldn't be considered becaues Ron Simmons had already been champion, and his singles career has winded down.

I would argue that Taker and Kane being "brothers" implies they were moron than just two singles starts thrown together.

Also, it confuses me when your bring up Eddie and Rey, Eddy was a world champion, Rey was not.
I was bringing Eddie and Rey up as an example of a team that wouldn't be a "real tag team". I was using them as an example of a team that had 2 established stars teaming up. I also was using them as an example of a team that had one world champion prior to tagging, and then a champion afterwards.
Another example is Austin and Michaels in 97.

I agree, APA was a real tag team. It's in a lot of ways an exception to the rule, since Ron Simmons was not really known for being a world champion and was completely fresh and low card in a whole new promotion.

But I still feel that Rock and Sock and Brothers of Destruction were not "real" tag teams in the conventional sense. They were superstar pairings along the exact same lines as other teams like Edge and Benoit or Austin and Triple H.

What makes Rock and Sock or Brothers of Destruction different? If it's because they had a name to go with them then Rated RKO would count as a real tag team, to which I'd disagree.


Another thing is, just because both members of a tag team weren't world champions yet doesn't mean it can't still be the superstar pairing type deal.
Austin and Dude Love are an example of this. They were both stars and over, despite not being world champions. So regardless it comes off as a team up and not a tag team unit.
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It may just be my perception of things, but I think it has some merit.

Real Tag Teams:
Road Warriors
Hart Foundation
Edge and Christian
The Hardy Boys
Dudley Boys
Demolition
NAO
MNM
The Rockers
The Bulldogs
etc.

Pair ups:
Rock n Sock
Rated RKO
Two Dudes with Attitude
Brothers of Destruction
Two Man Power Trip
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Two Dudes with Attitude was a TOTAL tag team.
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Who are Two Dudes with Attitude and Two Man Power trip. I'm guessing Dude Love and Austin for the first, and HHH and Austin for the second?
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Two dudes with attitude: HBK and Diesel
Both were singles stars beforehand however, though at least Diesel was HBK's bodyguard so I think they actually are borderline for being a real team.
So I take that one back and make them a tweener.

But yes, Two Man Power Trip was Austin/HHH in 2001
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I can't believe your name is BigDaddyCool and you claim to be a Kliq aficionado and don't know about the greatness that was Two Dudes with Attitude. I'll let it slide because I like you and the Kliq tho
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Who are Two Dudes with Attitude and Two Man Power trip. I'm guessing Dude Love and Austin for the first, and HHH and Austin for the second?
Two Dudes with Attitudes were HBK and Diesel circa...03 maybe?

And correct on the power trip
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Also, I'd dare add Flair and Batista. Flair's singles career had wavored and Batista was new still.
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It was really only a team because Orton was IC Champ and HHH was World and they were the only ones left to win the tag belts.
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Never clamied to be an aficionado, I'm just a Nash mark.
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Flairs career was wavering?

It's not like he was Ron Simmons and no longer known and had nothing else for him. He was immortalize as being RIC FUCKING FLAIR and no matter what he did or what tag team he was in it would and always will be overshadowed by that, and nothing more than a pair up.

Ric Flair and Batista was hardly a real tag team
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Flairs career was wavering?

It's not like he was Ron Simmons and no longer known and had nothing else for him. He was immortalize as being RIC FUCKING FLAIR and no matter what he did or what tag team he was in it would and always will be overshadowed by that, and nothing more than a pair up.

Ric Flair and Batista was hardly a real tag team
Flair main event run was over was what I meant. He still is an incredible name, but he wasn't in the main event hunt and hadn't truly been in quite some time.
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