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Old 04-29-2007, 07:20 PM   #1
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Pancrase
So in the past year or so I have gotten into MMA a whole lot more than wrestling and today I stumble upon Pancrase... Wtf... I read how it was pro wrestlers who wanted to shoot but how is it? I watched a few matches and they were ok... does anyone have an opinion?

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Old 04-29-2007, 07:31 PM   #2
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Dont we have a pancrase in our bodies?
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:39 PM   #3
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Didn't Rene Dupree yell that his pancreas hurt during a match?
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:44 PM   #4
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BAH GAWD THIS HAS NO PLACE IN THE WRESTLING FORUM WHIIIIIIINE

But seriously, I don't think the two are intertwined. Pancrase has its origins in Greece, but pro wrestling? What I've seen hasn't had anything to do.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:44 PM   #5
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Shoots instead of works. But that was then, it's much different in the now. It's a legit form of MMA.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:46 PM   #6
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Old rules
Aside from the common-sense rules (no biting, no eye-gouging, etc) the rules were pretty much as follows:
  • No elbows to the head (neither standing nor on the ground).
  • No closed-fist strikes to the head (neither standing nor on the ground).
  • No knees to the head on the ground.
  • No kicks/stomps to the head on the ground.
  • If you get too close to the ropes, you are stood back up on the feet as opposed to PRIDE's recentering in the middle of the ring.
  • Non-title matches=One 15 minute round; Title matches=One 30 minute round.
  • If you are caught in a submission and you tap out (whether you can't reach the ropes or the submission is just too tight) you lose.
  • Five "escapes" are given to each fighter at the start of every match. An escape can be used if you are caught in a submission near the ropes, in which case you can grab them and you will be stood back up on your feet and will have one point deducted. Once you have used all of your escapes, you lose.
  • For knockdowns, a ten-count similar to boxing and kickboxing is used. If the fighter is unable to answer the ten-count, it is declared a TKO and that fighter has lost the fight. However, if the fighter is able to answer the ten-count, the fight resumes and one point is deducted from them the same way it would be if they were to have grabbed the ropes while in a submission.
  • If at the end of regulation neither fighter has been knocked out, submitted, or lost all their points, a decision is rendered based on who lost less points (which is what it means on the fight finder when it says "Decision (Lost Points).") If neither fighter lost any points or they both lost the same number of points, the fight is declared a draw.
  • In the 1994 King of Pancrase tournament, the rules were slightly different in that the first round had one 10 minute round and three rope escapes and the finals had one 20 minute round with three rope escapes.
  • In the King of Pancrase tournament final, even though neither fighter lost any points at the end of regulation, because it was a championship match, they didn't want it to be a draw so they rendered a decision anyway.
  • And one other sidenote: For a short period of time around when Bas was the King of Pancrase, heelhooks were banned because of the frequency of injuries.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:11 PM   #7
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I wonder if you can snap fingers, like in the oriinal pancrathalon.
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Old 04-29-2007, 09:43 PM   #8
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I forget the name of the ancient famous wrestler that was (in)famous for that. Help me out. Didn't the Greeks change the rules at some point to bar that?
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Figures, promoters are always changing the rules for the benefit of the outcome of a match.
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Old 04-29-2007, 10:30 PM   #10
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I forget the name of the ancient famous wrestler that was (in)famous for that. Help me out. Didn't the Greeks change the rules at some point to bar that?
Yup.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:12 PM   #11
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I should remember, I was there
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:26 AM   #12
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I love a good big stack of pancreases for breakfast. With maple syrup.
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