Babyfaces assulting managers and lackeys...

**BigDaddyCool** · 05-10-2007, 03:22 PM

So I was watching ECW the other day, and out comes Armando Estrada in a wheelchair with some cops in tow. He tells Bobby Lashely off about he can't enter the arena and if Bobby lays a finger on Estrada he is going to be arrested. So Bobby pushes him down the hill into a dumpest.

The night before, Lashley beats up Coach for little or no reason. The week before Lashley pushed a wheelchair laiden Estrada into the steal ring steps. And it should all be noted that Lashley is the one the put Estrada into a wheelchair to begin with.

I bring all this up because I thought Lashley was suppose to be a good guy. It is one thing when Austin did things like that to McMahon because 1) Austin was an Anti-Hero, and 2) McMahon and Austin were the main characters in the fued. While Lashely has been pushed as an underdog face defying the odds, and Estrada and Coach are side players that pose no threat to Lashley.

Just odd booking.

**Anybody Thrilla** · 05-10-2007, 03:24 PM

I see how you mean, but I think the bookers are thinking that the crowd gets annoyed with characters like Coach and Estrada and would like to see them get their comuppence. I think it kinda makes Lashley look like a meathead bully.

**Slow** · 05-10-2007, 03:28 PM

Picking on a guy in a wheelchair TWICE? whatever happened to the law of the playground?

**BigDaddyCool** · 05-10-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow

Picking on a guy in a wheelchair TWICE? whatever happened to the law of the playground?

No just twice, he is also the one that put him in the wheelchair. By this point, Estrada should be the underdog face.

I still don't get how the can look at some like Lashley and think, "hey, look at the big black guy there, he would make the perfect underdog!"

**Slow** · 05-10-2007, 03:38 PM

yeah, true

**Theo Dious** · 05-10-2007, 03:38 PM

Yeah, this has never made sense to me either. Just like it never made sense during that one TLC match, that Lita came in and pushed someone off a ladder and that was A-okay, but a few minutes later when Edge speared her, that was somehow a horrible thing to do.

**Stickman** · 05-10-2007, 03:48 PM

whoa...you're paying attention to this storyline?

**Pepsi Man** · 05-10-2007, 04:28 PM

I tend to agree. That has made no real sense to me ever since he did that to Estrada last week. I mean, I saw all the incidents coming, but that doesn't mean I think they're the right call.

Personally, in order for the face to beat on a non-wrestler, I think he should have to be provoked, probably physically. That's just my take on it though.

**McLegend** · 05-10-2007, 04:33 PM

Yeah I argee with BDC here. I hate it when Faces attack mangers.

A couple months ago in TNA I really didn't like it when Sting went after James Mitchell. Didn't feel right.

**BigDaddyCool** · 05-10-2007, 04:48 PM

Now, during a match and a manager is tripping the face or getting involved in the match, then the face can do something about it. But I also feel that there should be a certain eye for eye type reaction. For example if the manager was to trip the face coming off the ropes, the face could then do like a baseball slide or something equal to the manager, but stop there. If the manager goes to hit the face with like a cane or chair or something, then the face could then to a finisher caliber move to said manager, and no more. Also, if the manager swings or looks like he/she is going to attack the face, the face can preemptively strike said manager before the manager connects. Pretty much the face shouldn't escliate the attacks, just use an equal force against the manager.

**Corkscrewed** · 05-10-2007, 06:44 PM

They're copying the Brock Lesnar push so much they're not even checking the details.

**BigDaddyCool** · 05-10-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkscrewed

They're copying the Brock Lesnar push so much they're not even checking the details.

Yeah, but Brock was a heel when he was beating up Zach Gowen.

**Super V** · 05-10-2007, 07:47 PM

My God...

05-10-2007, 03:22 PM	#1
BigDaddyCool Pelvic Sorcerer Posts: 64,762	Babyfaces assulting managers and lackeys... So I was watching ECW the other day, and out comes Armando Estrada in a wheelchair with some cops in tow. He tells Bobby Lashely off about he can't enter the arena and if Bobby lays a finger on Estrada he is going to be arrested. So Bobby pushes him down the hill into a dumpest. The night before, Lashley beats up Coach for little or no reason. The week before Lashley pushed a wheelchair laiden Estrada into the steal ring steps. And it should all be noted that Lashley is the one the put Estrada into a wheelchair to begin with. I bring all this up because I thought Lashley was suppose to be a good guy. It is one thing when Austin did things like that to McMahon because 1) Austin was an Anti-Hero, and 2) McMahon and Austin were the main characters in the fued. While Lashely has been pushed as an underdog face defying the odds, and Estrada and Coach are side players that pose no threat to Lashley. Just odd booking.

05-10-2007, 03:24 PM	#2
Anybody Thrilla Cranky Kong Posts: 78,671	I see how you mean, but I think the bookers are thinking that the crowd gets annoyed with characters like Coach and Estrada and would like to see them get their comuppence. I think it kinda makes Lashley look like a meathead bully.

05-10-2007, 03:28 PM	#3
Slow The Rev RC 4 Lyfe Posts: 641	Picking on a guy in a wheelchair TWICE? whatever happened to the law of the playground?

05-10-2007, 03:38 PM	#5
Slow The Rev RC 4 Lyfe Posts: 641	yeah, true

05-10-2007, 03:38 PM	#6
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	Yeah, this has never made sense to me either. Just like it never made sense during that one TLC match, that Lita came in and pushed someone off a ladder and that was A-okay, but a few minutes later when Edge speared her, that was somehow a horrible thing to do.

05-10-2007, 03:48 PM	#7
Stickman Stickman Posts: 15,119	whoa...you're paying attention to this storyline?

05-10-2007, 04:28 PM	#8
Pepsi Man Posts: 15,983	I tend to agree. That has made no real sense to me ever since he did that to Estrada last week. I mean, I saw all the incidents coming, but that doesn't mean I think they're the right call. Personally, in order for the face to beat on a non-wrestler, I think he should have to be provoked, probably physically. That's just my take on it though.

05-10-2007, 04:33 PM	#9
McLegend Temporary Posts: 15,590	Yeah I argee with BDC here. I hate it when Faces attack mangers. A couple months ago in TNA I really didn't like it when Sting went after James Mitchell. Didn't feel right.

05-10-2007, 04:48 PM	#10
BigDaddyCool Pelvic Sorcerer Posts: 64,762	Now, during a match and a manager is tripping the face or getting involved in the match, then the face can do something about it. But I also feel that there should be a certain eye for eye type reaction. For example if the manager was to trip the face coming off the ropes, the face could then do like a baseball slide or something equal to the manager, but stop there. If the manager goes to hit the face with like a cane or chair or something, then the face could then to a finisher caliber move to said manager, and no more. Also, if the manager swings or looks like he/she is going to attack the face, the face can preemptively strike said manager before the manager connects. Pretty much the face shouldn't escliate the attacks, just use an equal force against the manager.

05-10-2007, 06:44 PM	#11
Corkscrewed Posts: 18,357	They're copying the Brock Lesnar push so much they're not even checking the details.

05-10-2007, 07:47 PM	#13
Super V Member Posts: 1,055	My God...