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Old 06-02-2007, 01:27 AM   #1
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When Triple H returns...
is he going to be as bad as he was when he came off his last quad tear? On a similar note - does his body not allow him to be as good as he was in 2000 anymore?


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Old 06-02-2007, 02:05 AM   #2
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He doesn't need to bust his ass to put on the caliber of matches he needed to back in 2000. He also isn't working with the same caliber of wrestlers. Austin and Rock against Cena or Batista? Kind of hard wouldn't you agree?
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Old 06-02-2007, 02:08 AM   #3
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How many guys does the WWE have who can honestly work a decent match every night? 2 maybe 3
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Old 06-02-2007, 02:11 AM   #4
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How many guys does the WWE have who can honestly work a decent match every night? 2 maybe 3
Uh...who are these 2 or 3 people you're talking about? Hunter and Michaels spring to mind but seeing hos they're both injured, kind of hard or them to work a decent match. Benoit, Punk, Burke, MVP, Edge, they're all decent when matched up with another good talent but not a one of them can touch the likes of the elite from back in the day.
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Old 06-02-2007, 02:18 AM   #5
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Thats what I was sayin, Does anyone even bother to continue to train and hoan there skills after they get to the main roster? What happened to when people took pride for there work in the ring, sure theres your Benoits, but there a rare breed nowadays, its not to say there isnt any good wrestlers, but the main even level matches are hard to watch sometimes, and the way there booked doesn't help any.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:13 AM   #6
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The problem is a lack of "paying your dues". No not paying your dues in an anal rape sort of way, but in a "busting your ass for years trying to get to where you are today" sort of way.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:10 AM   #7
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RVD, Undertaker, Edge and Micheals are the first names that come to me fo the ones who put their all into every match. Considering Edge has been Cena and Micheal's bitch the last couple of months, full credit to him for still putting on a great performance
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:17 AM   #8
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Thats what I was sayin, Does anyone even bother to continue to train and hoan there skills after they get to the main roster? What happened to when people took pride for there work in the ring, sure theres your Benoits, but there a rare breed nowadays, its not to say there isnt any good wrestlers, but the main even level matches are hard to watch sometimes, and the way there booked doesn't help any.
What's the point? Wrestling skills aren't appreciated, anyway.
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:29 AM   #9
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:14 PM   #10
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For the sake of the argument (although I gotta go with KK too on the fact that it really doesnt matter)...

I don't think there is anybody in the WWE right now who can CARRY an entertaining match. NOBODY. Not Shawn Michaels, Not Triple H, Not Chris Benoit....They can have good matches with other good or at least half-decent workers. NONE of them could have a good match with Mark Henry, Khali, etc...Not at this point in their careers anyway. HBK and Trips both USED to be able to. Not anymore.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:36 PM   #11
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Both KK and Mercury are right
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:41 PM   #12
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Who cares if Trips will have lost a step when he gets back, he'll still be better and a sight more entertaining than the rest of the roster. (bar HBK n Edge)
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Who cares if Trips will have lost a step when he gets back, he'll still be better and a sight more entertaining than the rest of the roster. (bar HBK n Edge)
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:33 PM   #15
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:48 PM   #16
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He doesn't need to bust his ass to put on the caliber of matches he needed to back in 2000. He also isn't working with the same caliber of wrestlers. Austin and Rock against Cena or Batista? Kind of hard wouldn't you agree?
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:53 PM   #17
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For the sake of the argument (although I gotta go with KK too on the fact that it really doesnt matter)...

I don't think there is anybody in the WWE right now who can CARRY an entertaining match. NOBODY. Not Shawn Michaels, Not Triple H, Not Chris Benoit....They can have good matches with other good or at least half-decent workers. NONE of them could have a good match with Mark Henry, Khali, etc...Not at this point in their careers anyway. HBK and Trips both USED to be able to. Not anymore.
I dunno. I think Michaels could carry Steven Hawking to a **** match. Maybe not a 5* classic, but we're talking about effectively dead weight. I mean, the guy made Hogan look like a million bucks. Okay, 400,000 bucks, but still.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:58 PM   #18
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I dunno. I think Michaels could carry Steven Hawking to a **** match. Maybe not a 5* classic, but we're talking about effectively dead weight. I mean, the guy made Hogan look like a million bucks. Okay, 400,000 bucks, but still.
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Old 06-02-2007, 05:23 PM   #19
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HBK vs. Steven Hawking would be **1/2 or *** at best.

And a more accurate statement regarding his match with Hogan, is that he made Hogan look ridiculous and like the pompus ass that he is, rather than like any dollar amount.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:14 PM   #20
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When Triple H comes back, me thinks he's gonna become the top heel again. Like stab HBK in the back with a sledgehammer.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:47 PM   #21
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He doesn't need to bust his ass to put on the caliber of matches he needed to back in 2000. He also isn't working with the same caliber of wrestlers. Austin and Rock against Cena or Batista? Kind of hard wouldn't you agree?
And that's why Trips isnt elite at all. Guys like Hart could take a Kevin Nash or a Jean Pierre Lafitte and give them a classic, or at least the best matches they have ever had.

HHH cant even carry a Cena? Probably cuz these guys are about on the same level as HHH anyways.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:49 PM   #22
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HBK vs. Steven Hawking would be **1/2 or *** at best.

And a more accurate statement regarding his match with Hogan, is that he made Hogan look ridiculous and like the pompus ass that he is, rather than like any dollar amount.
HBK has trouble making matches look as reaslistic as possible because he has a bad habit of overselling, very comically and clown like, yet later on completely forgets that he was just selling his injuries as if they were the worst pains imaginable.
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:07 PM   #23
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I like Hart as much as the next man, but you dont bash HBK a.k.a. God
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:23 PM   #24
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Pretty sure his comical selling on Hogan was just to get at Hogan...thats what I was getting at anyway.
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I like Hart as much as the next man, but you dont bash HBK a.k.a. God
So HBK basically prays to himself all the time?
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:40 PM   #26
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And that's why Trips isnt elite at all. Guys like Hart could take a Kevin Nash or a Jean Pierre Lafitte and give them a classic, or at least the best matches they have ever had.

HHH cant even carry a Cena? Probably cuz these guys are about on the same level as HHH anyways.
Yeah, Trips can't make people look like a million bucks after multiple injuries.

I bet BRet'd have trouble putting people over today, too.
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So HBK basically prays to himself all the time?
Yeah, he's trying to lead by example.
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:45 PM   #28
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Yeah, Trips can't make people look like a million bucks after multiple injuries.

I bet BRet'd have trouble putting people over today, too.

Injuries or not, HHH was never that good. He was never able to lead a match in the way the true greats in the ring could and did. HHH is competent enough so that his matches are usually decent, but when they rise above that, it's usually because he's in there with a better wrestler/opponent then him.

Besides that, I dont think one could compare the gravity of Brets injuries to those of HHH. You know.
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:49 PM   #29
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I was a big fan of Triple H when I was younger, then I grew tired of his act because I knew I could tune in at anytime and most likely see the same thing I saw the last time I watched him.
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:49 PM   #30
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:04 PM   #31
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Injuries or not, HHH was never that good. He was never able to lead a match in the way the true greats in the ring could and did. HHH is competent enough so that his matches are usually decent, but when they rise above that, it's usually because he's in there with a better wrestler/opponent then him.

Besides that, I dont think one could compare the gravity of Brets injuries to those of HHH. You know.
Yeah, Bret's a pussy who should have walked it off.
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:06 PM   #32
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I was a big fan of Triple H when I was younger, then I grew tired of his act because I knew I could tune in at anytime and most likely see the same thing I saw the last time I watched him.
My only real problem with Trips was his total dominance. The predictability of his matches didn't really hurt either, but the fucker always being on top, jobbing in the match before the PPV, retaining, and so on...Just not what you wanted from the people who claimed ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN BAH GAWD!
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:40 PM   #33
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My only real problem with Trips was his total dominance. The predictability of his matches didn't really hurt either, but the fucker always being on top, jobbing in the match before the PPV, retaining, and so on...Just not what you wanted from the people who claimed ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN BAH GAWD!
I agree with this 100%. What's truly sad is that Cena is now out "Tripsing" Trips.
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:42 PM   #34
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My only real problem with Trips was his total dominance. The predictability of his matches didn't really hurt either, but the fucker always being on top, jobbing in the match before the PPV, retaining, and so on...Just not what you wanted from the people who claimed ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN BAH GAWD!
Which you can see why someone would get sick of him, he became a one-trick pony.
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:44 PM   #35
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I agree with this 100%. What's truly sad is that Cena is now out "Tripsing" Trips.
Except Trips had a couple solid runs before he got old and boring.
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:47 PM   #36
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Which you can see why someone would get sick of him, he became a one-trick pony.
Totally agree. Trips can be great, but he got boring, and he got lazy, and he probably drove a lot of people off.
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:35 PM   #37
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Totally agree. Trips can be great, but he got boring, and he got lazy, and he probably drove a lot of people off.
Its like his career is a methaphore for the WWE.
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:01 PM   #38
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As trips goes, so goes the company.
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:10 AM   #39
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As trips goes, so goes the company.
So the entire company is currently suffering a major muscular tear?

Makes sense. HHH tears his quad, and in a few months time the company can barely stand on its own, is incapable of moving forward, moves very slowly when it does, and a large part of it is crying out in pain.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:00 PM   #40
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Triple H needs "The Game" music again. So he can be his Cerebral Assasin style like he was. Devious Heel, fuck dX off cos kidz only cheer that anyway. Feud him with Orton (whose ent. music seems to make people cheer for him anyway) and then when Michaels comes back let him feud with him or something.

Somewhere in this Cena loses the title in a 3 way so Michaels and Triple H could go at it for a while. I'd be into that. Hell, I'd be into anything right now. But most peeps would be into this cos the history of the wrestlers, and well, at least they can work a decent match.
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