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The new "Iceman Orton".
Yay or Nay?
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Over Like Rover
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Well it's been done before and it'll be done again but it's not completely terrible.
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Taller than Adam Cole
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If it gets him over, I'm all for it.
If it doesn't, release him and cut your losses. Then again, I'm biased because I hate the son of a bitch. |
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It's not bad though his concussion shots looks pretty meh.
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*blarg*
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I don't know man, but the leveled DDT is awesome.
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It's an improvement from his "Edge's bitch" character. It needs to lead to a program with someone, though. Personally, I think they should strike while the iron is...well, not yet cold, and have Orton challenge Cena for the WWE Championship. It would be an improvement over Khali and Umaga, and the marks will freak out because Orton is on a roll.
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Well, he's only being developed to feed to HHH (or Cena), so it really doesn't matter. Even if he becomes an awesome heel character, it will stop the second he steps in the ring with HHH.
That's one of the things I hate, the heels are only developed SOLEY for the purpose of making the face look better (usually Cena) when they are eventually jobbed to them. There's no longevity with any of them, except for maybe Edge...and even then, he was made to be Cena's bitch most of the time...if not ALL of the time. |
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At least it seems they're finally letting him fight for the name "legend killer". Up until now he's only challenged legends and then gotten his ass handed to him by all of them. I like it. Maybe next Shane will come to him and ask him to kick Vince in the head to snap him out of the funk he's been in...
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I dont like it, I mean, its nothing new, and he isnt tryin to be creative with it himself, it reminds of HHH around 2000, not to mention I'm finding Orton to be very boring in the ring, and in general. The only way this could be good, is if it led to Orton Vs Edge.
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The only thing Randy Orton has ever had was "the look", his family, and people carrying him.
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Agreed with JamesSteele
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No, I was agreeing with the other thing he said about Orton being carried and his family. He barely has the look. He is too tall and skinny.
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Well I agree with that too.
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Any honest person will admit that HHH would have been champion without Stephanie. Orton would never have been anybody without his daddy.
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The Rock = Hand picked as a world champion before he entered the WWF. Steve Austin = Had a good relationship with Bret Hart who got him over. Triple H = Was friends with Vince's boy. The Big Show = Was 7 feet tall Andre the Giant = Was 7 feet tall Randy Orton = Attractive and son of Bob Orton Bobby Lashley = Lots of muscels and was in the military Batista = Has lots of muscles and Triple H had his back Jeff Jarrett = Father was Jerry Jarrett The Undertaker = Given a killer gimmick Am I saying none of the above people worked their asses off? No. Most of the people I mentioned are actually quite talented in one way or another, but if it weren't for some luck some friends, or just looking the part they'd be Val Venis, Stevie Richards, Al Snow, Shannon Moore, Funaki William Regal, Nick Dinsmore, Super Crazy, Chavo Guerrero to name a few. All the guys I just mentioned are great talent and great workers and most of them work really hard for the buisness but... Val Venis = Doesn't play politics Stevie Richards = Got stuck in a lacky role and never got out Al Snow = Was turned into a joke Shannon Moore = Too small Funaki = Asian William Regal = British and has an "un-orthodox style" Nick Dinsmore = Given a retarded gimmick Super Crazy = Mexican Chavo Guerreo = Not Eddie Guerrero Sure most of those people above had their bit of fame and time in the spot light but none were ever in a world title match to my recollection, and if they were I'm sure it wasn't a serious feud leading up to it. If you were to foget the years of sub-par booking for all of those people and repackage them in main event gimmicks within a few weeks you really wouldn't tell the diffrence between them and the main eventers I mentioned in my first list. What my main point is, you cannot fault guys for who they are. Saying Randy Orton only got a push because his last name is Orton, is like saying Angle only got pushed because he has a Gold Medal, you have to work with who you are. It's like the guy at the bar talking about an ugly rockstar like Joey Ramone getting laid saying "He's only getting laid because he has money." Meanwhile the same guy trys to impress girls with his nice expensive watch and nice car. If it weren't for Randy Orton being Randy Orton then he wouldn't be Randy Orton. That's essentially what you're saying when you say he's only over because of his name. |
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Pelvic Sorcerer
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HHH was champion without Stephanie. He remain champion after he started banging her.
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I'm Mr. White Christmas
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Yay
He hasnt pissed me off as much lately |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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And if the bad guys don't win the big match sometimes, there's no real significance.
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I'd like to see Booker T come back from his injury to RAW as a heel badass (- the "King Booker" gimmick) and have a run for a while with the belt.
Other than maybe Orton, there's nobody on the RAW roster IMO who can step into the heel role and be a strong contender/believable champion. |
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Cranky Kong
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I think he's one of the most entertaining things on Raw right now, but whaaaaaaaateverrrrrrrrrr.....
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Cranky Kong
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I don't see a problem with supporting the special olympics. DO YOU???
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Yes. But I'm anti-cripple, retard, and negro.
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Cranky Kong
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You leave Zach Gowan, Eugene, and John Cena out of this.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Spammy Certified
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Iceman orton?....he gets knocked out in one punch now?
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I was leaning toward Randy "The Boredom-Induced Coma" Orton.
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