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Old 06-06-2007, 03:29 AM   #1
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The new "Iceman Orton".

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Old 06-06-2007, 03:36 AM   #2
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Well it's been done before and it'll be done again but it's not completely terrible.
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:37 AM   #3
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If it gets him over, I'm all for it.

If it doesn't, release him and cut your losses.

Then again, I'm biased because I hate the son of a bitch.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:17 AM   #4
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It's not bad though his concussion shots looks pretty meh.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:19 AM   #5
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I don't know man, but the leveled DDT is awesome.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:16 AM   #6
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It's an improvement from his "Edge's bitch" character. It needs to lead to a program with someone, though. Personally, I think they should strike while the iron is...well, not yet cold, and have Orton challenge Cena for the WWE Championship. It would be an improvement over Khali and Umaga, and the marks will freak out because Orton is on a roll.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:22 AM   #7
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At least it seems they're finally letting him fight for the name "legend killer". Up until now he's only challenged legends and then gotten his ass handed to him by all of them. I like it. Maybe next Shane will come to him and ask him to kick Vince in the head to snap him out of the funk he's been in...
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:32 AM   #8
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It's an improvement from his "Edge's bitch" character.
Yeah, now he can become Cena's bitch.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:02 AM   #9
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Yeah, now he can become Cena's bitch.
Nah, too many people have that gimmick already.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:05 AM   #10
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It's not bad though his concussion shots looks pretty meh.
If those punches cause concussions, the Go To Sleep should be putting people in comas
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:19 AM   #11
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Well, he's only being developed to feed to HHH (or Cena), so it really doesn't matter. Even if he becomes an awesome heel character, it will stop the second he steps in the ring with HHH.

That's one of the things I hate, the heels are only developed SOLEY for the purpose of making the face look better (usually Cena) when they are eventually jobbed to them. There's no longevity with any of them, except for maybe Edge...and even then, he was made to be Cena's bitch most of the time...if not ALL of the time.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:42 AM   #12
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Well, he's only being developed to feed to HHH (or Cena), so it really doesn't matter. Even if he becomes an awesome heel character, it will stop the second he steps in the ring with HHH.

That's one of the things I hate, the heels are only developed SOLEY for the purpose of making the face look better (usually Cena) when they are eventually jobbed to them. There's no longevity with any of them, except for maybe Edge...and even then, he was made to be Cena's bitch most of the time...if not ALL of the time.
That is Pro Wrestling 101. Heels are designed to eventually put over the face, but heels shouldn't be bitched out to the babyfaces.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:43 AM   #13
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I dont like it, I mean, its nothing new, and he isnt tryin to be creative with it himself, it reminds of HHH around 2000, not to mention I'm finding Orton to be very boring in the ring, and in general. The only way this could be good, is if it led to Orton Vs Edge.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:14 PM   #14
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The only thing Randy Orton has ever had was "the look", his family, and people carrying him.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:49 PM   #15
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Agreed with JamesSteele
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:51 PM   #16
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:54 PM   #17
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No, I was agreeing with the other thing he said about Orton being carried and his family. He barely has the look. He is too tall and skinny.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:56 PM   #18
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Well I agree with that too.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:57 PM   #19
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Any honest person will admit that HHH would have been champion without Stephanie. Orton would never have been anybody without his daddy.
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HHH was champion without Stephanie. He remain champion after he started banging her.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:30 PM   #22
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:50 PM   #23
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Sure, because he made his way into the family not through Steph, but through Shawn.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:09 PM   #25
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That is Pro Wrestling 101. Heels are designed to eventually put over the face, but heels shouldn't be bitched out to the babyfaces.
I get that, but it's the complete bitching out that I have a problem with. How do you expect the fans to get into characters and story lines when you already know the predictable outcome? I'd just love to see a solid heel get the upper hand on Cena for once...and KEEP the upper hand for a while.

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Old 06-06-2007, 02:17 PM   #26
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And if the bad guys don't win the big match sometimes, there's no real significance.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:25 PM   #27
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I'd like to see Booker T come back from his injury to RAW as a heel badass (- the "King Booker" gimmick) and have a run for a while with the belt.

Other than maybe Orton, there's nobody on the RAW roster IMO who can step into the heel role and be a strong contender/believable champion.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:28 PM   #28
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I think he's one of the most entertaining things on Raw right now, but whaaaaaaaateverrrrrrrrrr.....
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:39 PM   #29
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Yeah, that's like saying he's a gold medalist in the special olympics.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:48 PM   #30
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I don't see a problem with supporting the special olympics. DO YOU???
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:50 PM   #31
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:01 PM   #32
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:07 PM   #33
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You leave Zach Gowan, Eugene, and John Cena out of this.
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:13 PM   #34
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Iceman orton?....he gets knocked out in one punch now?
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Only if it is from Montel "Rampage" Porter.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:18 PM   #37
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I was leaning toward Randy "The Boredom-Induced Coma" Orton.
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I think WWE should make it easy on Randy and just let him give people concussions through VICIOUS HEADLOCKS!
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Orton has yet to interest me since leaving Edge, or has yet to enterain me in the ring in about a year.
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