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Old 06-16-2007, 09:04 AM   #1
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This is disgusting!
I am very very close to dropping WWE all together after this McMahon death crap...I mean seriously they are more or less copying everything they did after Eddie died...the superstars standing on the ramp looking sad while the fans are asked to stand up...the videos of people talking about how great he was...I mean I know that no one with half a brain believes it...but it's still disgustingly disrespectful...
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:08 AM   #2
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As opposed to disgustingly respectful.
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:31 AM   #3
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Next week on Raw, Stone Cold Steve Austin proclaims "Vince McMahon is in hell!"
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:46 AM   #4
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He did it.
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Old 06-16-2007, 11:03 AM   #5
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I would have more of a problem if they didn't acknowledge it as legit. They need to have interviews with people sharing memories, ringing the bell, the need to get some VKM armbands on too. The more you think about it, this is NOT a slap in the face to Eddie or Owen or anybody that has ever died. This is a completely seperate instance and we, as the viewers, have to understand that and seperate that. Seperate reality from TV, it isn't really that difficult.

The same crowd of people that will piss and moan about how awful and disrespectful this is, I'm sure are the same people who grind their teeth everytime they hear a news reporter blame GTA for a school shooting. Seperating fiction from reality, thats all it is. We KNOW Mr. McMahon ISN'T dead. But it's a goddamn storyline and we can come to terms with it without having a hissy-fit.
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Old 06-16-2007, 11:40 AM   #6
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I think its funny that someone who find this disrespectful to Eddie, you'd think they mighta thought that 2 years ago, after he died, while his Boss, bestfriend and wife rode his legacy for all it was worth.
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I think its funny that someone who find this disrespectful to Eddie, you they mighta thought that 2 years ago, after he did, while his Boss, bestfriend and wife rode his legacy for all it was worth.
Yeah, if you want to talk DISRESPECTFUL...It doesn't get much worse than that I don't think.
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Old 06-16-2007, 12:48 PM   #8
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Really it doesn't.

Also I hate Rey Mysterio
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:13 PM   #9
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It was Muhammad Hassan.
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:37 PM   #10
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How is this worse than necrophilia, cult sacrifices, abductions, racism, sexism, slavery.... Do I need to continue?
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:34 AM   #11
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Please continue. I'm not arguing, just want to see how many things you can list that are worse than this. I bet there are a lot.
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:39 AM   #12
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I would also like to see you continue.
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:51 AM   #14
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It was intriguing, but as pointed out on the forum in the past...the best part of wrestling is the realism, even as fake as we all know it to be. A stunt like this brings intrigue but it's short lived unless executed properly. As displayed already on WWE.com as well as the television shows like ECW and Smackdown, it's already becoming more annoying and bothersome than it's initial reaction. I see this being as bad as a pregnancy angle or even some other bad ones that have been in the past.

I really need to start saving some money and start my own promotion or something...create my own wrestling fix rather than rely on other because I'm always disappointed.
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:51 AM   #15
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Seriously, though. I have some arguments for why this is dumb, or possibly even a bad idea, but disgusting?

I mean, it's not the sort of angle I want to watch. I think it gays up the show. On the plus side, I got through Smackdown in 25 minutes, which has to be a record (Personal record, at least).

It's also probably not going to lead to opsitive publicity. People will look at this as evidence that wrestling is fake, and look at the stupid rubes who are grieving as evidence of how stupdi we all are for follwing it, etc.

Most of the people I know who have seen the news coverage have scoffed at this shit. Maybe it's not common, I don't know, but I honestly can't imagine a fake death helping ratings. Vince vs the Donald did, but didn't ionvolve someover the top stunt.

But disgusting? Fuck that shit. Disgusting would be showing Eddie's dead body on Raw. Fucking a real corpse. Talking shit about the Sensational Sherri. Eric Bischoff actually raping Linda McMahon. At worst, this is poor taste for treating Vince's "death" with the same seriousness as Owen and Eddie's. At worst.

Can we not over-react over something so stupid?
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:55 AM   #16
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It was intriguing, but as pointed out on the forum in the past...the best part of wrestling is the realism, even as fake as we all know it to be. A stunt like this brings intrigue but it's short lived unless executed properly. As displayed already on WWE.com as well as the television shows like ECW and Smackdown, it's already becoming more annoying and bothersome than it's initial reaction. I see this being as bad as a pregnancy angle or even some other bad ones that have been in the past.

I really need to start saving some money and start my own promotion or something...create my own wrestling fix rather than rely on other because I'm always disappointed.
wrestling is a delicate balance of supsension of disbelief. That it's fake is really the elephant in the room. This is more or less rimming the elephant, and hoping nobody notices.

And for Fuck's Sake, even JBL putting it over sounds kinda boring. And he could make a "Watching Paint Dry" match sound good.
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:59 AM   #17
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Seriously, though. I have some arguments for why this is dumb, or possibly even a bad idea, but disgusting?

I mean, it's not the sort of angle I want to watch. I think it gays up the show. On the plus side, I got through Smackdown in 25 minutes, which has to be a record (Personal record, at least).

It's also probably not going to lead to opsitive publicity. People will look at this as evidence that wrestling is fake, and look at the stupid rubes who are grieving as evidence of how stupdi we all are for follwing it, etc.

Most of the people I know who have seen the news coverage have scoffed at this shit. Maybe it's not common, I don't know, but I honestly can't imagine a fake death helping ratings. Vince vs the Donald did, but didn't ionvolve someover the top stunt.

But disgusting? Fuck that shit. Disgusting would be showing Eddie's dead body on Raw. Fucking a real corpse. Talking shit about the Sensational Sherri. Eric Bischoff actually raping Linda McMahon. At worst, this is poor taste for treating Vince's "death" with the same seriousness as Owen and Eddie's. At worst.

Can we not over-react over something so stupid?
I wouldn't say I'm disgusted, and can't imagine why others would too. Come on...the man suggested an insest angle with being the father of his daughter's child, and then her brother being the father when Steph said no to the first idea.

This is wrestling my friends...you turn on USA every week, then I think you need to check your dignaty at the door where it belongs.
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:08 AM   #18
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Yeah, it's always been kind of trashy. There are lines that shouldn't be crossed, but this is low on that list.

In fact, I'm waiting for Zero to finish the list.
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Old 06-17-2007, 07:19 AM   #19
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This angle isn't really that bad, we're still talking about it as fervently as six days ago . They haven't even shown us which way they're going. Could drum up interest for all we know...
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Old 06-17-2007, 08:50 AM   #20
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Here's the thing, if they're going to do this angle, they may as well go all the way with it, because if they didn't, then the same people calling it disgusting would be talking about how illogical it all is that the Chairman died and nobody cares. Now of course, the real option would be not doing it at all and actually trying to get a wrestler over, but since that's not the case, at least they're pushing this thing.
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:30 AM   #21
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Yes, because Eddie's death was the only time in which superstars stood in the entryway while the bell tolled ten times, and the only time in which wrestlers shared memories of a fallen wrestler.
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How is this worse than necrophilia, cult sacrifices, abductions, racism, sexism, slavery.... Do I need to continue?
I don't think anyone is saying it's worse. It's just as stupid as all of that stuff.
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I don't think anyone is saying it's worse. It's just as stupid as all of that stuff.
Well if MLW didn't stop watching from that stuff why would he stop watching from this then? Obviously HE thinks it's worse.

Wrestling isn't exactly something you watch if you're a pussy bitch who complains about "bad" things they do.
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Well if MLW didn't stop watching from that stuff why would he stop watching from this then? Obviously HE thinks it's worse.

Wrestling isn't exactly something you watch if you're a pussy bitch who complains about "bad" things they do.
Unless you're part of the IWC.
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Well if MLW didn't stop watching from that stuff why would he stop watching from this then? Obviously HE thinks it's worse.

Wrestling isn't exactly something you watch if you're a pussy bitch who complains about "bad" things they do.
No, wrestling is something you watch so you don't have to put up with fake deaths.
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No, wrestling is something you watch so you don't have to put up with fake deaths.
...What?

It's a story-driven industry. You need to expect anything to happen. Fake death? Sure, why not? Fake retards? Why not? Fake boobs? Hell yeah.

Anything that can be used in any type of story can be used in wrestling. You want a wrestler who gets eaten by a whale and returns years later? It can happen!
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Old 06-17-2007, 07:54 PM   #29
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Anyone who actually expects anything to happen is an idiot.
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Old 06-17-2007, 08:00 PM   #30
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I only wish Eddie's death was as fake as Vince's. I still hope for the day his music hits, Eddie comes out, grabs a mic, and shouts, "Remember when I said I was dead? I LIEEEEEEEEEEED!"
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:48 PM   #31
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I am very very close to dropping WWE all together after this McMahon death crap...I mean seriously they are more or less copying everything they did after Eddie died...the superstars standing on the ramp looking sad while the fans are asked to stand up...the videos of people talking about how great he was...I mean I know that no one with half a brain believes it...but it's still disgustingly disrespectful...
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:55 PM   #32
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I only wish Eddie's death was as fake as Vince's. I still hope for the day his music hits, Eddie comes out, grabs a mic, and shouts, "Remember when I said I was dead? I LIEEEEEEEEEEED!"
Even better, it's worked into the current storyline.

Assuming Eddie's faking (in this scenario) he would have gotten over HUGE as a heel.

They do something that brings back Vince, say at WrestleMania.

*Vince's music hits*

JR: BAHGAWD! HE'S ALIVE!
Joey Styles: OH MY GOOOOD!
Michael Cole: We had all thought that Vince McMahon was dead since June of last year!
JBL: ... Thank you Cole.

*Vince gets on the mic*

Vince: You all thought i was dead, but I'm not! I lived! (Blah blah blah) Oh, and I have one more surprise. I guess you could say that I wasn't the only one who LIED!

*LATINO HEEEAATT*
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:00 PM   #33
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You know what else is disgusting? When they killed off Hoss on Bonanza and they totally pretended he was still alive. THose bastards make me sick.

When Dragonball Z killed off Goku and Piccolo and Vegeta and Krillin and Gohan and pretty much everybody else, and they totally disrespected my needs to mourn by bringing them back to life.

Then when they killed Maude Flanders on the Simpsons, they made it a JOKE!!! Sickeningly disrespectful. Same with Seinfeld and George's fiancee.

And don't even get me started with Optimus Prime!!! I swear I'm so mad I'm going to start a leaflet campaign!

Disclaimer: If you haven't caught my sarcasm, it's probably because you're really that highstrung that you were upset that a scripted show would dare kill off a character, and then not start every show with a disclaimer that the death wasn't real.

Lighten up.
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:58 PM   #35
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You know what else is disgusting? When they killed off Hoss on Bonanza and they totally pretended he was still alive. THose bastards make me sick.

When Dragonball Z killed off Goku and Piccolo and Vegeta and Krillin and Gohan and pretty much everybody else, and they totally disrespected my needs to mourn by bringing them back to life.

Then when they killed Maude Flanders on the Simpsons, they made it a JOKE!!! Sickeningly disrespectful. Same with Seinfeld and George's fiancee.

And don't even get me started with Optimus Prime!!! I swear I'm so mad I'm going to start a leaflet campaign!

Disclaimer: If you haven't caught my sarcasm, it's probably because you're really that highstrung that you were upset that a scripted show would dare kill off a character, and then not start every show with a disclaimer that the death wasn't real.

Lighten up.
I feel your pain man...I miss Optimus Prime too.
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