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Old 07-13-2007, 02:38 PM   #1
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Ugh... Sony, why must you be retarded?
Don't get me wrong, I love my :PS3, but sony is just shooting themselves in the fucking foot.

If you haven't heard, the "Price cut" is more of a markdown... Apparently Sony dropped the $100 off to move the remaining stock of the 60gb model, and once that's done, they'll discontinue it, leaving the new 599 package...

Hopefully Sony gets enough bad press and rethinks their decision...... If not, they're fucking up big.



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Old 07-13-2007, 02:49 PM   #2
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:03 PM   #3
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I heard this was Sony Europe that announced this, not Sony America. So until SoA announces this, who cares? I already got two PS3s, so who cares?
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Kaz clears up the confusion



"[There is no] two SKU strategy in the US. We found out very quickly customers respond to just having one SKU."

"We dropped the price on the 60GB model, as you know that model is no longer in production. Once that model is no longer on store shelves there's just the $600 SKU."

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Old 07-13-2007, 03:14 PM   #5
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Fucking A brillant Sony...
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Us Americans are retarded and can't tell the difference between two different versions of the same product.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:33 PM   #7
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Apparently... What's worse is that the new "model" is worthless if you don't want Motorstorm... 100 more for 20gbs of memory.... They need to keep the 60gb and keep it at 499
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Oh and I guess they are doing away with the backwards compatibility.
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Oh and I guess they are doing away with the backwards compatibility.
You mean they are going to use emulation instead of actually packing in the Emotion-Engine chip, right? I haven't heard anything about them actually removing backwards compatibility so I'm curious.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:35 PM   #10
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Where'd you see that?

I thought they were making the new model the same as whatever the EU one has.... It has X amount of games that the BC doesn't work on, but patches fix that...
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:40 PM   #11
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LOL, wow, Sony is really fucking up. They had something great with the PS2, it was no question the biggest console last gen in terms of library size and quality within that library. Now they have very little games (even for this time in release) and hardly any are worth playing, plus they've lost a good chunk of their exclusives.
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Old 07-13-2007, 04:15 PM   #12
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I'm kind of confused. What exactly did they do to be retarded? I dont' keep up on the latest trends in video game consols.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:05 PM   #13
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I'm kind of confused. What exactly did they do to be retarded? I dont' keep up on the latest trends in video game consols.
They announced a $100 price drop for the 60gb ps3, and introduced an 80gb PS3, that comes packaged with Motorstorm, for $599.

A few days later, it comes out that they're not producing any more of the 60gb model, and the price drop is to sell off the inventory of them. So essentially, it's a price drop while supplies last, and then back to a 599 model.
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Old 07-13-2007, 04:23 PM   #14
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:25 PM   #16
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so what does the 60GB sell for now after the price drop?
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sorry, but I don't see why this makes sony retarded. People will still buy it and I bet the mark up is insane.
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sorry, but I don't see why this makes sony retarded. People will still buy it and I bet the mark up is insane.
Well, my slow Canadian friend, it's mostly that they are discontinuing the 60 GB model.

This isn't a price cut, it's clearance. They're getting rid of the 60 GB model, and selling only a more expensive model which has 20 GB more and Motorstorm as extras.

I'm not even sure why you're so fixated on the price.

Also, the PS3 is taking the biggest hit per unit of the three consoles. So no, the markup isn't insane.
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sorry, but I don't see why this makes sony retarded. People will still buy it and I bet the mark up is insane.
If you mean mark uo from Sony, you're wrong. Making a loss per console sold.
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If you mean mark uo from Sony, you're wrong. Making a loss per console sold.
This is the main reason I'll stick with Sony. Any company willing to lose several hundred dollars PER console is obviously producing a superior machine, trying to make their fans happier, and planning for the long run.

And don't give me that shit about how Microsoft has lost 1 Billion USD on the 360. I doubt they planned for their machine to be fucked up and full of bugs, resulting in them having to pay out the ass to repair all the damaged consoles. Or if they did plan on it, it means they knew they were marketting a shitty product and just released it to cash in on the market by being the first out of the gate.
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This is the main reason I'll stick with Sony. Any company willing to lose several hundred dollars PER console is obviously producing a superior machine, trying to make their fans happier, and planning for the long run.

And don't give me that shit about how Microsoft has lost 1 Billion USD on the 360. I doubt they planned for their machine to be fucked up and full of bugs, resulting in them having to pay out the ass to repair all the damaged consoles. Or if they did plan on it, it means they knew they were marketting a shitty product and just released it to cash in on the market by being the first out of the gate.
Even before the problems, MS were losing cash per console sold.

In fact, Nintendo are the only manufacturer to be making a profit per console, including PSP. MS are maing a profit on the XBox division now though, the 360 has an attach rate of close to 6 games per 360 console owner.
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Of course Nintendo is the only one making a profit. Outside of their amazing motion sensor technology, which I think will become very niche once people realize that the Wii really is going to have shitty software since nobody besides Nintendo is making good games for the Wii, they are selling an inferior product. The ONLY reason they are leading in sales is because they are super cheap compared to other consoles. Hell, they are cheaper than consoles of the LAST generation at debut by a ways, too.
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This is the main reason I'll stick with Sony. Any company willing to lose several hundred dollars PER console is obviously producing a superior machine, trying to make their fans happier, and planning for the long run.

And don't give me that shit about how Microsoft has lost 1 Billion USD on the 360. I doubt they planned for their machine to be fucked up and full of bugs, resulting in them having to pay out the ass to repair all the damaged consoles. Or if they did plan on it, it means they knew they were marketting a shitty product and just released it to cash in on the market by being the first out of the gate.
Dude, are you retarded?
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This is the main reason I'll stick with Sony. Any company willing to lose several hundred dollars PER console is obviously producing a superior machine, trying to make their fans happier, and planning for the long run.

And don't give me that shit about how Microsoft has lost 1 Billion USD on the 360. I doubt they planned for their machine to be fucked up and full of bugs, resulting in them having to pay out the ass to repair all the damaged consoles. Or if they did plan on it, it means they knew they were marketting a shitty product and just released it to cash in on the market by being the first out of the gate.
Whatever way you cut it, losing money is losing money.
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Whatever way you cut it, losing money is losing money.
Not to mention that losing money on the console is the standard business model. Not something new, or unique to Sony. that's like being loyal to the XBox because it has a disc system. Without the billions in losses, the 360 was still a hit every time one was sold. Even Nintendo didn't always make their systems to be profitable. That's a new deal.
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Well, you changed my mind. I'll piss my money away on a system to get one game, which will likely be ported within a year, despite the decline of said series.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:15 PM   #29
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Well, you changed my mind. I'll piss my money away on a system to get one game, which will likely be ported within a year, despite the decline of said series.
BUT THE GRAPHICS!11!1 OMGZ THE GRAPHICS MAKE UP FOR EVERYTHING ELSE!1!!
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Old 07-14-2007, 03:14 AM   #30
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except for the $600 that will be missing out of my pocket....
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Old 07-14-2007, 05:17 AM   #31
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Was I the only one who was prepared for the PS3? When they announced it I started taking $25 from each paycheck and put it in an account. By the time the PS3 came out I had enough for two of them(didn't buy two though, just one.), a Wii and a nice 40 inch HDTV.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:50 AM   #32
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Was I the only one who was prepared for the PS3? When they announced it I started taking $25 from each paycheck and put it in an account. By the time the PS3 came out I had enough for two of them(didn't buy two though, just one.), a Wii and a nice 40 inch HDTV.
I could buy one right now. I never saved for it specifically, but I can afford it. Believe it or not, there are some people who just don't think the value's worth it. We understand the value of a dollar. And we feel that that much for a toy is a waste.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:33 AM   #33
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Was I the only one who was prepared for the PS3? When they announced it I started taking $25 from each paycheck and put it in an account. By the time the PS3 came out I had enough for two of them(didn't buy two though, just one.), a Wii and a nice 40 inch HDTV.
As I've said before, I love my PS3, but it's not hard at all to understand why people don't want to buy one.

Essentially, you have a more expensive system, with a blu ray player, that so far, doesn't have a huge selection of games, and as of right now, not many exclusives that make the system a must have.

Graphically, while I have no doubt the PS3 has barely touched it's potential (Naughty Dog, for example, said that Uncharted, Drake's Adventure, taps only 30% of the ps3's potential.), so far, it has not been visually better than the 360.

Right now, if you don't want a bluray player, the 360 looks like the better deal (the failure rate is huge, but apparently Microsoft is trying to fix that.) If Sony kept the price drop long term, get a library of great exclusives, and utilizes more of it's potential, then maybe people who CAN afford one will be willing to spend money on it.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:24 PM   #34
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I have to say that PS3 is in 3rd right now behind Wii and 360.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:25 PM   #35
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Even the PSP is lagging in sales compared to the DS. I even heard on T.V. that UMD's might end as well.
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Even the PSP is lagging in sales compared to the DS. I even heard on T.V. that UMD's might end as well.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:36 PM   #37
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Even the PSP is lagging in sales compared to the DS. I even heard on T.V. that UMD's might end as well.
EVEN the PSP? Come on, the PSP's been doing horrible for like, forever.

And UMDs have been effectively dead for almost a year. They've been on life support.

I just wish the DS would put out more kickass games. seriously.
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EVEN the PSP? Come on, the PSP's been doing horrible for like, forever.

And UMDs have been effectively dead for almost a year. They've been on life support.

I just wish the DS would put out more kickass games. seriously.
I take it you don't like puzzle games much?
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:09 PM   #39
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I take it you don't like puzzle games much?
Actually, I have a lot of puzzle games. I just want some depth to the roster.
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:05 PM   #40
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How can you possibly expect Sony to outduel Nintendo in the handheld console market? I have a PSP and I like it very much and I think Sony has put out a good product. I have just as much fun with my DS. I like Sony at least attempting to make a name for themselves in a market that was pretty much taken over by another company completely.
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