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Old 07-27-2007, 04:25 PM   #1
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Congress wants WWE drug testing records.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:43 PM   #2
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So they are not asking for a list of who has been tested?

Either way, this could be quite a big story.
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God damn it, I am so pissed with this.
Keep congress out of the WWE. There's too much shit going on in this world. My brother is going to the middle east for a 4th time next winter, people are dying from cancer, children all over the world is hungry, and congress is going after this?

Fine, fucking let them, but please, if Congress is going to get into wrestling, then have congress ask for everyone in the film and music industry tested. If big brother is watching, fucking watch everyone. God forsaken cunts!
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:02 PM   #4
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:21 PM   #5
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God damn it, I am so pissed with this.
Keep congress out of the WWE. There's too much shit going on in this world. My brother is going to the middle east for a 4th time next winter, people are dying from cancer, children all over the world is hungry, and congress is going after this?

Fine, fucking let them, but please, if Congress is going to get into wrestling, then have congress ask for everyone in the film and music industry tested. If big brother is watching, fucking watch everyone. God forsaken cunts!
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Don't let one bad apple spoil the whole damn bunch.
I'm with ya

This country had a lot bigger problems to deal with rather than getting its grubby little hands into pro wrestling. How about we address health care and poverty instead of steroids in a division of the entertainment industry that most people don't give a damn about.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:25 PM   #6
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God damn it, I am so pissed with this.
Keep congress out of the WWE. There's too much shit going on in this world. My brother is going to the middle east for a 4th time next winter, people are dying from cancer, children all over the world is hungry, and congress is going after this?

Fine, fucking let them, but please, if Congress is going to get into wrestling, then have congress ask for everyone in the film and music industry tested. If big brother is watching, fucking watch everyone. God forsaken cunts!
Shut the fuck up.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:26 PM   #7
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one bad apple?
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:26 PM   #8
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If the government could actually resolve issues I'd be all for it. But they cant. So its a moot point.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:27 PM   #9
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one bad apple?
Yeh you got a point there.

I'm not saying its not a problem for pro wrestling...but is it a national epidemic worthy of congressional intervention? When we have a lot more important problems to deal with? Or is this really most important?
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:34 PM   #10
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I think it's a total waste and a bunch of bullshit that politicians are trying to smear their face across as the solution to this problem...the fact is however that most people are concerned with it obviously, it's a pop culture trend to worry about steroids, so let the elected officials worry about the dumb shit the people worry about. The fact is, nothing is really going to change either way, so this is a boring news story if you ask me...
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:36 PM   #11
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I'll just paste the article I got on PWInsider, combine the two threads

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World Wrestling Entertainment's Vince McMahon was asked in a letter dated today to provide records pertaining to World Wrestling Entertainment's drug testing policies by the two congressmen responsible for conducting steroid hearings into Major League Baseball, according to an article published on ESPN.com this afternoon.

Rep. Henry Waxman, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and Tom Davis, its ranking minority member, wrote McMahon requesting, "a series of documents intended to give the committee and its investigation a detailed look at WWE's drug-testing policy, including information about the results of performance-enhancing drug tests on pro wrestlers."

Excerpts from the letter according to the article include:
"The tragic deaths of World Wrestling Entertainment star Chris Benoit and his family have raised questions about reports of widespread use of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs by professional wrestlers.

"These allegations -- which include first-hand reports of steroid use by prominent former wrestlers -- have swirled around the WWE for over a decade. Investigations by journalists have described a culture of performance-enhancing drug use in professional wrestling, high fatality rates among young professional wrestlers, and an inability or unwillingness of WWE to address these problems."

"WWE has a responsibility to do everything possible to eliminate the use of performance-enhancing drugs -- or the perception of such use -- by its wrestlers."

ESPN.com reported that the requests in the letter are similar to what was asked of Major League Baseball by Congress during its investigation into MLB and included requests for:

*A listing of drugs covered by WWE's policies.

*The entity [this would be Aegis Science, headed by Dr. David Black] that conducts its drug testing, details on the number of tests it conducts annually and how many wrestlers are tested during the period.

*The protocols WWE follows after positive drug tests

*Procedures that lead to exemptions of positive tests.

ESPN.com also reports that WWE has been asked to provide results of any investigations WWE has prepared in regard to the deaths, injuries, or illnesses of "current or former professional wrestlers that may have been related to the use of steroids." as well as "all communications between [WWE] and outside entities including communications with health care professionals or law enforcement authorities, regarding allegations of drug use by wrestlers."
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:42 PM   #12
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Half you folks are acting like this is immediately going to be a deep, long, and in-depth investigation.

Or that this is somehow mutually exclusive from actually taking action in other fields. Neither are true.

It's probably worthless, but I'm wondering if the people protesting too loudly are only doing so because they don't want to hear the outcome they know is coming.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:53 PM   #14
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I don't care if they make good or not. I don't think the steroid issue trumps a lot of other issues our government likes to ignore.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:54 PM   #15
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If our country was a car with a blown headgasket, and congress was the mechanic, they'd be far more concern with concealing paint chips and scratches rather than repairing the blown headgasket.
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If our country was a car with a blown headgasket, and congress was the mechanic, they'd be far more concern with concealing paint chips and scratches rather than repairing the blown headgasket.
So...ummm...How to break this to you.

You have the political awareness of a rock. Please tell me you don't vote.
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Well...I don't feel like getting into a never-ending argument with you. ANYWAY, you go ahead and tell me the pressing issues our government is tackling and taking care of along with the steroid investigation.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:13 PM   #18
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Half you folks are acting like this is immediately going to be a deep, long, and in-depth investigation.

Or that this is somehow mutually exclusive from actually taking action in other fields. Neither are true.

It's probably worthless, but I'm wondering if the people protesting too loudly are only doing so because they don't want to hear the outcome they know is coming.
WWE is shitting bricks right now.
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God damn it, I am so pissed with this.
Keep congress out of the WWE. There's too much shit going on in this world. My brother is going to the middle east for a 4th time next winter, people are dying from cancer, children all over the world is hungry, and congress is going after this?

Fine, fucking let them, but please, if Congress is going to get into wrestling, then have congress ask for everyone in the film and music industry tested. If big brother is watching, fucking watch everyone. God forsaken cunts!
Stupid beyond belief.

More than one person died under contract to WWE under the influence of drugs.

A ton of people who did work for them died. Their wellness policy is a sham. And most importantly of all, they are a public company and should be disclosing all info like this to it's shareholders regardless.
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This is probably the only way WWE is going to change the wellness policy.
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You retards.

This is about safe employment, something governments have a duty to interfere in. If WWE has been happy to let it's wrestlers continue under substances that put their health at risk, than it is more than appropriate for the government to interfere, just as it would be more than appropriate for them to interfere if they were happy for you to use a chainsaw without gloves or something.

Just out if interest, is there a proffesional wrestlers union?
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one bad apple?
Name one other wrestler who did even a single murder-suicide.
Yes, one bad apple.
Suicide, be it an accident or not, is tragic enough, and it happens with everyone in every walk of life. Now I'm not taking away the value of Nancy or Daniel out of this. They were victims. I don't think any other wrestler who commited suicide took anyone else on their way down.
One bad apple.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:06 PM   #26
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Well...I don't feel like getting into a never-ending argument with you. ANYWAY, you go ahead and tell me the pressing issues our government is tackling and taking care of along with the steroid investigation.
Or you could be intelligent, open a newspaper, and flip past the Paris Hilton parts.

Sorry to sound snarky, but you've gotta be fucking retarded to cop this. Aside from Iraq, which YES, is an issue, we've had labor issues, minimum wage, a federal fucking budget...Investigation of the PResident and his Administration...

Stop me when you feel totally retarded.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:07 PM   #27
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WWE is shitting bricks right now.
Oh, no doubt. After all their talk, they're most likely going to be shown to have lied to the public and their investors. And that's probably the least of their worries.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:09 PM   #28
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Name one other wrestler who did even a single murder-suicide.
Yes, one bad apple.
Suicide, be it an accident or not, is tragic enough, and it happens with everyone in every walk of life. Now I'm not taking away the value of Nancy or Daniel out of this. They were victims. I don't think any other wrestler who commited suicide took anyone else on their way down.
One bad apple.
You.

Fucking.

Moron.

This isn't just about murder/suicide. They're not looking into the murder records WWE has, they're looking into the drug testing records.

And it's not one bad apple. It's a literal litany of "bad apples."

Jesus Christ, does Vince PAY you fuckers to be up on his cock like this?
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:12 PM   #29
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Good. I hope something positive comes out of this, even if something small. At least something is being done.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:13 PM   #30
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yea, it's about drugs, not suicide. lol, that's been the issue since day one. come on
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:16 PM   #31
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If WWE is forced to undergo any kind of changes, no matter how big or small, so will every other wrestling company in the USA. Will congress be willing to take on every indy fed in order to "clean up' pro-wrestling?

Also, if congress can't get "real" sprots to clean the drugs out, how are they going to get a fake sport?
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:41 PM   #32
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I hope this change something.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:22 AM   #33
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yea, it's about drugs, not suicide. lol, that's been the issue since day one. come on
Yeah, I saw Larry King. Where they were talking about Benoit, a lot of it was about drugs and lifestyle. That's the big issue right now.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:21 AM   #34
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:57 AM   #35
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I hope eventually something positive will come from this.

Having spent a majority of my time in wrestling lockerrooms with many of the "big names", I can safely say that steroids, painkillers, and other drugs are a major issue in the business. Something needs to be done to correct all of this, and apparently neither the employees or the employer care to do anything about it.
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:02 PM   #36
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Or you could be intelligent, open a newspaper, and flip past the Paris Hilton parts.

Sorry to sound snarky, but you've gotta be fucking retarded to cop this. Aside from Iraq, which YES, is an issue, we've had labor issues, minimum wage, a federal fucking budget...Investigation of the PResident and his Administration...

Stop me when you feel totally retarded.
Woosshh! That was my point going right over your head.

Those were all the issues I was talking about that we need to be RESOLVING. Are those issues resolved? NO, They are discussed and then pushed aside and then discussed again....and so on and so forth. It's a never ending cycle of discussion and hearings and half-assed failed legislations. Do they look at the issues? Yes. They look at them and then do little about them. It's time to actually do something, not just open up another book to look into.

I'm not saying steroids in wrestling isn't an issue. I'm saying Congress is supposed to have the best interests of the public in mind and focus their attention on things that matter to the masses. Which is more important to the general population, adequate health care or steroids in pro wrestling?
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:17 PM   #37
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And that's all I've got to say about that. I'm not just going to repeat myself 20 times trying to hammer it home.
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Old 07-28-2007, 02:23 PM   #38
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Woosshh! That was my point going right over your head.

Those were all the issues I was talking about that we need to be RESOLVING. Are those issues resolved? NO, They are discussed and then pushed aside and then discussed again....and so on and so forth. It's a never ending cycle of discussion and hearings and half-assed failed legislations. Do they look at the issues? Yes. They look at them and then do little about them. It's time to actually do something, not just open up another book to look into.

I'm not saying steroids in wrestling isn't an issue. I'm saying Congress is supposed to have the best interests of the public in mind and focus their attention on things that matter to the masses. Which is more important to the general population, adequate health care or steroids in pro wrestling?
They're resolving them now, you fucktard.

Did that go over your head? Yep. WOOOOOOOSH

Minimum wage was passed, BTW. Since, again you can't be arsed to crack open a paper.

But basically, what I'm gathering is despite what you said (show me issues they ARE tackling), you're looking for them to have solved everything first. And that's just ridiculous. Yeah.
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Old 07-28-2007, 02:24 PM   #39
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And that's all I've got to say about that. I'm not just going to repeat myself 20 times trying to hammer it home.
Translation: I have shit and I know it.
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you're looking for them to have solved everything first. And that's just ridiculous. Yeah.
I'm looking for them to solve something more important first. Everything would be impossible, a couple things that are more important shouldn't be.
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