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Old 08-08-2007, 04:10 PM   #1
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Is Animal is a fucking douchebag?
Sorry if this was posted before, but:


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Jon Heidenreich appeared on the August 2nd Edition of The Shoot: Talk on Professional Wrestling. The interview starts off at about the 33 minute mark of the show. He spoke on a variety of topics including Road Warrior Animal, Vince McMahon, Bob Holly, and more. Here's a recap:
Hosts Gary Cantrell and John Krauser welcome Jon Heidenreich and fellow AWF wrestler Mr. Wrestling 3 to the show. They first ask him about the origin of "Little Johnny", Heidenreich says it was based off of his "inner-child". He described it as the "voice" inside of his head that wanted to seek revenge on all of the people who made fun of him in his childhood. He said the WWE tried to turn it into something sexual and "f*cked it up like they do every storyline". He said he wanted to reach people with it as he believed a lot of people could relate to being teased as a child.
Heidenreich then responds to comments made by Road Warrior Animal on last week's episode of The Shoot. He says first and foremost he has nothing but the utmost respect for Animal, Hawk, and The Legion of Doom for what they contributed to the business and says his beef lies on a personal level with Joe Laurinaitis not Animal the wrestler. He goes on to say that the first week on the road with Animal, he was asked if he could loan five thousand dollars to him. At the time, he was new to the business and Animal came off like he really needed the money. Heidenreich says he loaned it to him out of the kindness of his heart. It wasn't until the Hurricane hit when he lost his home and his family was living in a hotel that he needed the money and had a hard time getting it back from Animal. He said tension began to build on the road as he was trying to get his money back. He said Animal wanted to keep it between the two of them, but then began painting the picture as if Heidenreich was disrespecting him. He says that he never got $600 of it back. He said it was very bad towards the end; he didn't want to ride with Animal anymore. Lots of arguing and bickering ensued. He made the claim that Animal said "You owe me the $600, for inconveniencing me on the road"
His take on the run with LOD:
"I thought it was the greatest opportunity of my career behind working for The Undertaker. I thought it was going to be the greatest thing to ever happen to me; little did I know it would lead to my demise and release "He believes Animal was going back to the office and making up/embellishing stories about him such as he was unreliable, had drug problems, and couldn't handle the schedule. He believes this lead to his eventual release.
That was a week before THIS, which really made me cringe:


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Road Warrior Animal did a post on wrestlingfigs.com in which he responds to some things his ex-tag team partner John Heidenriech said about him in a recent interview. Here is what Animal said regarding Heidenreich's comments and dealing with him when the two were tag partners in WWE in 2005. Animal also notes that Bob "Hardcore" Holly was really angry that Heidenreich got the L.O.D. spot over him:
On John Heidenriech.
I was asked to do something that I thought I would never do in this business, have another partner, and I did. First of all John Heidenreich was given the greatest opportunity in the business as far as teams go. I, as a professional was willing to give and help with 20 years experience to make John a part of the greatest Tag Team gimmick of all time, with most of those years being 250 days a year average on the road building my gimmick. It was my decision and mine alone, after all I own the L.O.D gimmick. I respected John not only as an athlete but as a performer. I did get a loan from John when we were in between paychecks and I paid it all back as soon as the first quarter marketing checks were disbursed, so that ends that ridiculous pointless issue.
I would like to point out the fact that I waited countless hours at airports waiting to assist in the travel of Mr. Heidenreich, as a member of the team, although he never once thought of giving a simple courtesy call explaining delays or changing of plans.
In this business it just is not right to not communicate with a traveling partner. It is quite insulting. While all the other wrestlers were communicating, respecting each other, setting up rides, rental cars, all traveling expenses, together. If I were going to charge him money for inconvenience, hell, it would have been in the thousands not just 600 bucks.
Where John is mistaken, everyone knows I am one of the boys, not very close to the office, I might add, feeling much the same as John does. I would never bury a fellow wrestler or tell on a partner, it would never be beneficial business wise or even smart for that fact in the very end it would hurt the team, or gimmick. I am all about the team.
John is right and I will admit there are many jealous people in this business and many were mad when John got the break to be a member of the L.O.D.,. feeling John did not deserve it. I did not have an opinion on that as I did not know John very well. Bob Holly was pissed and wanted to be a member of the L.O.D. also, Bob just got mad as he and many others thought John was being very disrespectful to the whole business not just to the team. It was those individuals, and I heard many bitching in the locker room, that were always complaining to the office about John. To say that I was talking to the office is quite funny actually as they who know me know better. I did not nor would I ever do that to anyone, not even Heidenreich.
I never saw John do drugs so it would not be right to judge him on that fact, nor should anyone else. People made assumptions and it was the WWE Doctor that suggested that when sinus or ears bleed it is a sign of abuse, so if John wants to get mad , get mad at the Doctor, he made that statement in the locker room. All that I know is I drove an extra 30 miles to pick John up at the hospital so the agents did not have to.
As far as Christian shows go, I love to do them and I respect them tremendously. I would never hold anyone up for money, that comment doesn't even deserve a rebuttal comment. It is something I do not take lightly. I have not, nor would I ever stand up any promoter for more money, that is a sure way to cut your throat in this business. Get your facts right!
I feel I did a huge favor in welcoming John in the L.O.D. I never held John's personal issues against him as we all have personal problems. I thought as a friend I helped John through a rough time as he was very upset after Catrina almost destroyed his families home. I was there to lend support and understanding, without hesitation, but in this business most people think you need to check those problems at the door and do business which is not always that easy.
I will agree the office could have been more understanding about that issue, after all it was a catastrophe. How does a person get paid back for giving them the No. 1 tag team gimmick or being a friend? The man rips on my family and my son in that stupid low life video, people who have nothing to do with this business what so ever. Attack those who cannot defend themselves, what a man!
I know and feel as others do that John Heidenreich has a lot of proving to do in this business. I wish him well and I hope he achieves the future success he is looking for in this business. I, no doubt with help know he could make it some day. I hope for his families sake he does.
This will be the last time I will comment on this situation as it does not even deserve the time or place in this business. Some things just don't need to be said or discussed and this is definitely a waste of time.
What a Rush.
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I want to thank Georgiann for allowing me this avenue of discussion. There will be no moe discussion about it.
First, its "KATRINA" not CATRINA, Joe.

Second, it seems to me that all Heidenrich needed was a BIT of his money back and Joe thought he was disrespecting him, like "how DARE John ask of ANYTHING from me," trying to do anything he can to say that he didn't owe anything to John.

This is so wrong on SO many levels.


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Old 08-08-2007, 04:14 PM   #2
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Who the fuck cares, darkpower?
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:21 PM   #3
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Who the fuck cares, darkpower?
Some people might. Not sure what you're problem is about it.

Maybe no one really cares about Joe anymore. That I may agree with you on.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:32 PM   #4
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:37 PM   #5
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lol LOD sucks now John. get over it. we're in 2007 now. Anyone put in the LOD gimmick should run and hide.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:39 PM   #6
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It's just one person's story against another, I don't know what you're getting so upset about. You don't know the truth here.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:40 PM   #7
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It's just one person's story against another, I don't know what you're getting so upset about. You don't know the truth here.
I don't know, really...just the fact that Katrina was brought into this got to me.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:42 PM   #8
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2005 was a rough year for you, no?
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:54 PM   #9
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OMG, wrestlers are petty and bicker about money too?
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OMG, wrestlers are petty and bicker about money too?
Yeah, they do, apparently...and unfortunatly.

Hogan is a firm example of that.
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I was being sarcastic, cock nose.
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I was being sarcastic, cock nose.
I got that part, actually.
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He no-sold you, BDC.
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He no-sold you, BDC.
That bastard, the ruins all the matches credibility.
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He no-sold you, BDC.
I'm one of the better no sellers, too.

Seriously, though, I knew he was being sarcastic, but it's the kind of thing that you would still hope wouldn't be an issue, but it is.

Still, even when people complain about not being paid enough or anything like that, I haven't seen many issues like this between two former wrestlers, on something that really shouldn't be. Someone helps you out, you should return the favor. Just that simple.

Not sure which side to take here, though.
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It's all heresy. I can't form an opinion on something where I have absolutely no concrete evidence.
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You mean the Kliq? And the Kliq sells. For all the back stage politiking, the Kliq sold and worked the matches. Hell, they sold a finger poke like a shotgun blast to the chest. They sold a even when they shouldn't. They even sold for Bret Hart.
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It's all heresy. I can't form an opinion on something where I have absolutely no concrete evidence.
Yeah. That makes it even harder, and more fustrating.

I can see now why not many people will care (they should, but chances are not many will). They can't take sides unless at the very least someone netural can say something like "yeah, this/that guy is telling the truth".
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Why SHOULD they care, though?
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Why SHOULD they care, though?
To tell you the truth....

...I have no idea.
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But....you're the one that said people should care. Remember this?

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I can see now why not many people will care (they should, but chances are not many will).
What are your intentions here, darkpower?
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I don't know why I read that shit, but for some reason I started and kinda got into it and read both.

My view, the truth is probably somewhere in between. Heidenreich can't be as innocent and undermined as he claims. But I do agree that all those old guys are a bunch of miserable assholes. Especially Bob Holly. They're all hardasses who claim to have some deep respect for the business even though they're just taking out their frustrations and problems. They don't have nearly as much respect for people or "the business" (that they sabotage, bleed, fail at, bog down, and corrupt and abuse over the years with their behavior) as they try to command from others.

What kind of miserable, desperate asshole with any semblance of respect for the business or himself would be blatantly pathetic enough to be envious and have a hair across his ass because a young guy got a break (a shitty one to boot) to be in the fucking LOD 2k5?
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Animal comes off as a fucking douche by lots of his actions.

He actually believes that he is a top guy, and in his mind, can't seperate the gimmick from himself, ala Warrior. Maybe it's something in the facepaint.
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Animal prolly thinks hes a top guy in the business because his sons one of CFBs best defensive players in the nation and a likely 1st rd draft pick in the NFL.
Or maybe it's the fact that he was one half of the greatest tag team that there ever was, maybe that.
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Old 08-09-2007, 05:22 AM   #27
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Or maybe it's the fact that he was one half of the greatest tag team that there ever was, maybe that.
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:10 AM   #28
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does anyone else see a key word in Road Warrior's sentence?
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:18 AM   #29
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"maybe" or "was"?
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The Road Warriors were mainly over because they no sold everything! Of course they are going to get over and move tickets, they were the Ultimate Warroir of tag team wrestling.

I can't think of any outstanding matches they've had to be honest, they wern't poor workers, but they weren't great either IMO.

And as far as powerhouse teams that don't sell anything, I always found the Stiener Brothers more watchable
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I recall a particular Survivor Series match (maybe in 1992?) when Hawk went to give somebody a shoulder to the midsection in the corner (Maybe Mr. Perfect?), and he moved, causing Hawk to smash his shoulder into the ring post (which happen a lot these days, but that's the first time I saw it). He sold that pretty well.
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I know that's one time out of six billion, but it's always fun to look back.
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He can sell to objects such as a ring post because they won't make him look weak.

Or a carbon rod.

But that's it
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He can sell to objects such as a ring post because they won't make him look weak.

Or a carbon rod.

But that's it
You forgot a fall off of the titantron.
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he no-sold death at his funeral.
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