Benoit had Frontal Lobe Syndrome

[Shaggy]

Source: PWTorch

In a story that could change the whole view of the Benoit tragedy, Chris Benoit's father will be doing several media appearances offering some shocking new information.

Michael Benoit claims that Chris Benoit had some Neurological scans of his brain, which have revealed he had post concussion syndrome and a condition called Frontal Lobe Syndrome.

Frontal Lobe Syndrome causes emotional and social withdrawal, outbursts of rage and violent behavior.

If this is confirmed it partially reliefs Benoit of his crimes, because in essence he had brain damage. This would also put part of the blame on the wrestling schedule as these disorders are attributed to repeated blows to the head.

We'll follow this story closely and get word on Michael Benoit's TV appearances.

[Ben Rodrigues]

So does this mean he's going into the Hall of Fame now?

[KingofOldSchool]

It means we probably won't see chair shots anymore.

[The Fugitive]

I doubt it, but I do hope one day people will be able to separate Benoit the wrestler from Benoit the person.

[The Fugitive]

I doubt that as well, KOOS. Maybe they'll be more shots to the back/neck instead of the head.

[McLegend]

I hope there is less chair shots. I hate Chair shots right to the head that are unprotected. Like when HHH just killed Umaga this past week the shit was tough to watch.

[Loose Cannon]

I'm remember learning about this is Abnormal Pyschology. pretty scary stuff.

[McLegend]

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder The worst was when the Rock was banging on Mic Foley at Royal Rumble. Those were some of the most vicious chair shots i've ever seen.

Yeah those were disgusting, and there is absolutely no need for them.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Good news for the memory of Benoit if this is true....

Possible worse news for Vince.

[BigDaddyCool]

So he goes from murderer to brian damaged murderer? I honestly don't care how crazy, retarded, or brian damaged a person is, it is still murder.

[Loose Cannon]

Just got reported that Benoit also suffered from Dissociative Identity Disorder. They're saying At the time of the killings, Benoit was not himself, but a completely different person. Chris' father said that he like to watch shows like 24 and maybe he took them a little too seriously.

[Dave Youell]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon Just got reported that Benoit also suffered from Dissociative Identity Disorder. They're saying At the time of the killings, Benoit was not himself, but a completely different person. Chris' father said that he like to watch shows like 24 and maybe he took them a little too seriously.

Did he play GTA as well? Because they would love some of this press before there next game comes out.

[IC Champion]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon Just got reported that Benoit also suffered from Dissociative Identity Disorder. They're saying At the time of the killings, Benoit was not himself, but a completely different person. Chris' father said that he like to watch shows like 24 and maybe he took them a little too seriously.

Where did you read this?

[Shaggy]

Source ABCNews.com

ABC News is confirming that tests conducted by Julian Bailes of the Sports Legacy Institute show that Chris Benoit’s brain was severely damaged at the time he murdered his wife and son before taking his own life. According to the tests his brain resembled that of an 85-year-old Alzheimer's patient. Bailes said that the damage was the result of lifetime chronic concussions and head trauma.

Chris Benoit was famous for his flying headbutt, which is a lot of stress on the brain each time the maneuver is pulled off. While nothing can justify his actions, this at least helps the coping process.

[Loose Cannon]

holy shit.

[RP]

Originally Posted by Shaggy Source ABCNews.com ABC News is confirming that tests conducted by Julian Bailes of the Sports Legacy Institute show that Chris Benoit’s brain was severely damaged at the time he murdered his wife and son before taking his own life. According to the tests his brain resembled that of an 85-year-old Alzheimer's patient. Bailes said that the damage was the result of lifetime chronic concussions and head trauma. Chris Benoit was famous for his flying headbutt, which is a lot of stress on the brain each time the maneuver is pulled off. While nothing can justify his actions, this at least helps the coping process.

I disagree. I think it justifies the actions, but not the deaths. I mean, if this is the case, he probably never even realized what he was doing until it was done. Then he killed himself. I think WWE needs to address this on live TV.

[RP]

It would probably also explain the bibles. The remorse he felt.

[BigDaddyCool]

Originally Posted by Shaggy Source ABCNews.com ABC News is confirming that tests conducted by Julian Bailes of the Sports Legacy Institute show that Chris Benoit’s brain was severely damaged at the time he murdered his wife and son before taking his own life. According to the tests his brain resembled that of an 85-year-old Alzheimer's patient. Bailes said that the damage was the result of lifetime chronic concussions and head trauma. Chris Benoit was famous for his flying headbutt, which is a lot of stress on the brain each time the maneuver is pulled off. While nothing can justify his actions, this at least helps the coping process.

So, if I'm reading this right, jumping off a 5 foot turnbuckle to land on your head is bad and can damage your brain? And it can possibly lead you to kill yourself and family. I still fail to see how this is anyone's fault but Benoit's.

[RP]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon Just got reported that Benoit also suffered from Dissociative Identity Disorder. They're saying At the time of the killings, Benoit was not himself, but a completely different person. Chris' father said that he like to watch shows like 24 and maybe he took them a little too seriously.

DAMN THAT JACK BAUER

[RP]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool So, if I'm reading this right, jumping off a 5 foot turnbuckle to land on your head is bad and can damage your brain? And it can possibly lead you to kill yourself and family. I still fail to see how this is anyone's fault but Benoit's.

Without the proper knowledge or tests for the condition, Chris, his family, and WWE probably had know clue it was a possibility.

[Loose Cannon]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool So, if I'm reading this right, jumping off a 5 foot turnbuckle to land on your head is bad and can damage your brain? And it can possibly lead you to kill yourself and family. I still fail to see how this is anyone's fault but Benoit's.

well yea. do that for 20 years and god knows how many times a year? The human brain is not a rock. (well for some people here, I think it is) It slowly deteriorate over time even without hitting your head day in and day out. Just imagine how faster the process is when you are.

I know it's hard to grasp the concept of mental disorders and how they could even cause things like that. But if you really read about and study it, you'll see what can happen. It goes back to that classic Phineous Gage case.

Not saying it's 100% to blame, but can certainly see how it would have played a part.

[Loose Cannon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage

here, for people who want to read more about that case.

[6to1]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool So, if I'm reading this right, jumping off a 5 foot turnbuckle to land on your head is bad and can damage your brain? And it can possibly lead you to kill yourself and family. I still fail to see how this is anyone's fault but Benoit's.

i saw matches where he jumped off the top of the cage and landed near his head

[Loose Cannon]

no way.

[dablackguy]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool So, if I'm reading this right, jumping off a 5 foot turnbuckle to land on your head is bad and can damage your brain? And it can possibly lead you to kill yourself and family. I still fail to see how this is anyone's fault but Benoit's.

Take your finger, and gently touch the front of your head.

You're killing brain cells. That's how sensitive it is

[6to1]

yea i think it was back in his wcw days i am suprised he lasted as long as he did after watching hif jump off the top of the cage and land on another wrestler.

[RP]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon The human brain is not a rock. (well for some people here, I think it is)

[Rob]

WWE needs to impliment brain scans on a 6 month basis.

[Theo Dious]

Originally Posted by dablackguy Take your finger, and gently touch the front of your head. You're killing brain cells. That's how sensitive it is

Son of a bitch. We need to go to non-contact wrestling IMMEDIATELY!!!















Cena can teach the rest of the roster, he barely ever touches his opponents anyways.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool So, if I'm reading this right, jumping off a 5 foot turnbuckle to land on your head is bad and can damage your brain? And it can possibly lead you to kill yourself and family. I still fail to see how this is anyone's fault but Benoit's.

Read up on that Phineas Gage case that was posted. It's not just that your head hurts a little, you lose control over who you are, and what you do. It's not like Chris Benoit woke up and said "My head hurts, today I am going to murder my family." He might not have even realized he killed them until after the fact, hence the bibles and seeming state of confusion Benoit was in.

This might take some pressure off the steroid thing, unfortunately, but now the business itself, at its very core, is under question. Chris Benoit literally gave so much of himself to the industry, it killed him.

[The One]

So...what...Steroids hits Benoit in the head?

[IC Champion]

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 Read up on that Phineas Gage case that was posted. It's not just that your head hurts a little, you lose control over who you are, and what you do. It's not like Chris Benoit woke up and said "My head hurts, today I am going to murder my family." He might not have even realized he killed them until after the fact, hence the bibles and seeming state of confusion Benoit was in. This might take some pressure off the steroid thing, unfortunately, but now the business itself, at its very core, is under question. Chris Benoit literally gave so much of himself to the industry, it killed him.

Maybe he should have took some time off, or treated his concussions instead of just continuing to wrestle because it's your life, and it's what you live for.

Concussions are serious business, and every year someone in a pro sport has their career ended from just a couple concussions. And anyone knows that undiagnosed or untreated concussions have serious consuquences, such as insanity, or depression.

So again, I fail to see how this is anyone's fault other than Benoit himself.

[BigDaddyCool]

OMG, you all are such retarded assholes. I was being sarcastic. I know for a fact that jumping of a turn buckle and landing on your head is bad for you. My point is I don't need a medical study to tell me that is bad for the human brain, and by that logic, neither should anyone else. It is fairly common sence land on your head = hurting your brain. Therefore Chris Benoit should have known that jumping off a turn buckle and landing on his head 300 days of the year is going to lead to something bad, yet he did it anyways. No one ever came up to Benoit and told him that if he had to do the diving head butt. He did it to himself. Benoit made his own brain into mush, then killed his family and hung himself. He may not have known any better at the time, but he put it all in motion himself.

If a drunk driver runs over someone, then it is still their fault. I see very little different between killing your brain with alcohol and getting behind the wheel of a car then hurting people in said car and this situation.

Benoit is not a saint. He is a foolish man that destroied his own brain. And because of that killed his family and himself.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Instant Classic Maybe he should have took some time off, or treated his concussions instead of just continuing to wrestle because it's your life, and it's what you live for. Concussions are serious business, and every year someone in a pro sport has their career ended from just a couple concussions. And anyone knows that undiagnosed or untreated concussions have serious consuquences, such as insanity, or depression. So again, I fail to see how this is anyone's fault other than Benoit himself.

I'm wondering if you actually believe this, or you're just sucking up to BDC. Please tell me it's the former, because it will be annoying as fuck if this is another reach around off the anal fuck.

Chris Benoit killed his family, but there is this thing called "diminished capacity." You probably know what those words mean, so stick them together and see what you get.

It is still Chris Benoit's "fault" in the sense that if he had stopped wrestling, it may not have happened, but Benoit was Benoit until fairly recently. I'm not sure how fast these things can set in, but I'd be willing to bet it was pretty fast. No one saw this coming. I certainly didn't. You didn't seem to. I certainly doubt that Chris Benoit ever had the thought "I better stop wrestling or else I may murder my family, roll around in my dog's feces and ruin my legacy." Should he have? I guess in retrospect, a narrow-minded person could fault him for not, but you can't really blame him for not knowing about the effects of the business when we didn't either. I'm fairly certain this is the precedent case for professional wrestling to this kind of extreme.

Benoit murdered his family, and that is something that has to eat at those close to Benoit everyday, and it ate the last breath out of Chris Benoit. Instead of placing blame, this is just one of those dark events that you wish had turned out differently. We all saw the shots Chris Benoit was taking, we were all aware of his schedule. So was Vince McMahon, everyone in the business and all those close to Benoit. No one did anything. While there has to be a level of self-monitoring, there needs to be some consciousness of those around you, as well. People who traveled with Chris Benoit didn't notice any difference, I really doubt Chris Benoit, who if he had noticed a difference, would have been screwed up, and hence not noticed the difference (there's a conundrum for ya) would have.

I could be completely wrong about this, though, but it has always been my understanding that you don't always know you are going to go crazy.

[IC Champion]

No, but if he had a concussion, I'm going to take a wild guess, and say he knew he did, I'm gonna say that before he went crazy, his head probably hurt alot, due to head aches, going back years even. Now I would just assume someone with a concussion in a contact sport of any kind would go see a doctor about this, and get a CAT scan. I'm guessing that he didn't. I'm guessing that his concussions went undiagnosed, I mean, your brain doesn't begin to resemble that of an 85 year old Alzheimer over night, this was something that happened over time. I'm going to have to say that he suffered from concussions and head aches for quiet sometime. And if you don't think someone can go crazy from concussions, do some research.

And, also had you been paying any attention at all Alienoid, you would know that some of his friends knew something was wrong with him, and that he wasn't normal.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool OMG, you all are such retarded assholes. I was being sarcastic. I know for a fact that jumping of a turn buckle and landing on your head is bad for you. My point is I don't need a medical study to tell me that is bad for the human brain, and by that logic, neither should anyone else. It is fairly common sence land on your head = hurting your brain. Therefore Chris Benoit should have known that jumping off a turn buckle and landing on his head 300 days of the year is going to lead to something bad, yet he did it anyways. No one ever came up to Benoit and told him that if he had to do the diving head butt. He did it to himself. Benoit made his own brain into mush, then killed his family and hung himself. He may not have known any better at the time, but he put it all in motion himself. If a drunk driver runs over someone, then it is still their fault. I see very little different between killing your brain with alcohol and getting behind the wheel of a car then hurting people in said car and this situation. Benoit is not a saint. He is a foolish man that destroied his own brain. And because of that killed his family and himself.

So what you are saying is that all football players, boxers, contact sport players and physical laborors should expect to go crazy and murder their families? This is not something you plan for.

You want to know the difference between drink driving and brain damage? If you saw a drunk person trying to get into a car, you would stop them. No one stopped Chris Benoit. No one ever said "Chris, you may kill someone if you do this." It's a slight difference, but it is a difference.

No one is saying Chris Benoit is the greatest man who ever lived, and foolish is probably quite appropriate for him, just like it is foolish for anyone who gets into the business. That's what people are going to be saying, though, so you better get used to it: The media will turn this into "professional wrestling killed Benoit's family."

Everyone accepts Chris Benoit's part in the killings. He fucking did them. You're moving at a slower pace than everyone else, but that's OK. We are now talking about what outside causes played a part on it. Originally it was thought to be steroids, and now it is the business itself, and the natural injuries that occur with it.

As Loose Cannon said, it doesn't excuse Benoit. A sin is still a sin. If you're a spiritual person, then you really have to believe that Chris Benoit is rotting in Hell right now, unless God takes mercy on those who can't help themselves. It does remove the intent from the crime, though, and that is a fucking huge part of things. It was a sickening thought to image a competent Chris Benoit tying up his wife and then strangling her as she is defenseless, and then smothering his son out of cowardice, and then taking his own life so he doesn't have to face the consequences. That messed up the image of Chris Benoit as a person. Now he's a guy who should have stopped, but didn't realize he needed to, and not a single doctor, promoter, agent, fan, friend or family member spoke up. If Chris Benoit is guilty for what happened to his brain, then we were all, in ways, accomplices.

[BigDaddyCool]

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 I'm wondering if you actually believe this, or you're just sucking up to BDC. Please tell me it's the former, because it will be annoying as fuck if this is another reach around off the anal fuck. Chris Benoit killed his family, but there is this thing called "diminished capacity." You probably know what those words mean, so stick them together and see what you get.

Why did Benoit's mental capacity diminsh? Wrestling...not just wrestling but head shots, many of which he did to himself? Benoit's fault.

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 It is still Chris Benoit's "fault" in the sense that if he had stopped wrestling, it may not have happened, but Benoit was Benoit until fairly recently. I'm not sure how fast these things can set in, but I'd be willing to bet it was pretty fast. No one saw this coming. I certainly didn't. You didn't seem to. I certainly doubt that Chris Benoit ever had the thought "I better stop wrestling or else I may murder my family, roll around in my dog's feces and ruin my legacy." Should he have? I guess in retrospect, a narrow-minded person could fault him for not, but you can't really blame him for not knowing about the effects of the business when we didn't either. I'm fairly certain this is the precedent case for professional wrestling to this kind of extreme.

Oh, you didn't see this coming from Benoit, that means a lot because you are just some mark, so naturally you know jackshit about him on a personal level. And there was a person who did see this come and she is dead now. Nancy Benoit reportedly asked Chris to take a lighter schedule and probably even hinted at him retiring. And yes I can fault him for not knowing something bad would happen by constantly hitting his head on opponets, the mat, and steel chairs. Now, it would be impossible to see this scenrio coming, but it there are a few dozen other equally sad and depressing things that could have easily seen scenrios.

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 Benoit murdered his family, and that is something that has to eat at those close to Benoit everyday, and it ate the last breath out of Chris Benoit. Instead of placing blame, this is just one of those dark events that you wish had turned out differently. We all saw the shots Chris Benoit was taking, we were all aware of his schedule. So was Vince McMahon, everyone in the business and all those close to Benoit. No one did anything. While there has to be a level of self-monitoring, there needs to be some consciousness of those around you, as well. People who traveled with Chris Benoit didn't notice any difference, I really doubt Chris Benoit, who if he had noticed a difference, would have been screwed up, and hence not noticed the difference (there's a conundrum for ya) would have.

No, this is Benoit's fault. Is it Vince MacMahon's personal responiciblity to go up to every superstar at every show and see if they want to work a lighter schedule? No. It is the superstar's resposibility to know what their body can and cannot physically take.

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 I could be completely wrong about this, though, but it has always been my understanding that you don't always know you are going to go crazy.

It doesn't matter, he still did it too himself.

[Pepsi Man]

So now...just questioning based on that analogy, as I'm not even entirely sure how I feel about all this...are you saying that if a drunk driver kills someone, you blame the people that did not stop him from getting behind the wheel?

[BigDaddyCool]

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 So what you are saying is that all football players, boxers, contact sport players and physical laborors should expect to go crazy and murder their families? This is not something you plan for.

I don't expect them to go crazy, but after so much, I don't expect much out of them. I do expect they will go brain dead.

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 You want to know the difference between drink driving and brain damage? If you saw a drunk person trying to get into a car, you would stop them. No one stopped Chris Benoit. No one ever said "Chris, you may kill someone if you do this." It's a slight difference, but it is a difference.

Nancy Benoit said something.

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 No one is saying Chris Benoit is the greatest man who ever lived, and foolish is probably quite appropriate for him, just like it is foolish for anyone who gets into the business. That's what people are going to be saying, though, so you better get used to it: The media will turn this into "professional wrestling killed Benoit's family."

Yeah, the media turns anything into ratings, big deal. It is still Benoit's fault.

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 Everyone accepts Chris Benoit's part in the killings. He fucking did them. You're moving at a slower pace than everyone else, but that's OK. We are now talking about what outside causes played a part on it. Originally it was thought to be steroids, and now it is the business itself, and the natural injuries that occur with it. As Loose Cannon said, it doesn't excuse Benoit. A sin is still a sin. If you're a spiritual person, then you really have to believe that Chris Benoit is rotting in Hell right now, unless God takes mercy on those who can't help themselves. It does remove the intent from the crime, though, and that is a fucking huge part of things. It was a sickening thought to image a competent Chris Benoit tying up his wife and then strangling her as she is defenseless, and then smothering his son out of cowardice, and then taking his own life so he doesn't have to face the consequences. That messed up the image of Chris Benoit as a person. Now he's a guy who should have stopped, but didn't realize he needed to, and not a single doctor, promoter, agent, fan, friend or family member spoke up. If Chris Benoit is guilty for what happened to his brain, then we were all, in ways, accomplices.

Nancy spoke up.

[IC Champion]

Alienoid, you have out done youself, really bravo.

No one is responsible for what Benoit did, other than Benoit. How the fuck would I, or anyone else whio knew him or didn't would know he had concsussions? How was anyone to know that those untreated concussions, that no one other than maybe Nancy knew about, was going to cause him to go crazy?