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Old 10-03-2007, 01:37 AM   #1
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No Mercy main event update
Vince McMahon announced on ECW On Sci-Fi that a new WWE Champion will be crowned at the No Mercy PPV now that John Cena has been stripped of the WWE Title due to his injury.

Options for the No Mercy match include Randy Orton vs. Triple H, Randy Orton vs. Triple H vs. Umaga, Randy Orton vs. Jeff Hardy, and Randy Orton vs. The Undertaker.

Credit: WrestlingObserver.com

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Old 10-03-2007, 01:38 AM   #2
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They all sound shit to me. I actually predicted that the WWE would consider moving The Undertaker to RAW, seeing as he isn't officially booked yet. SmackDown! led me to believe that he would be tied up, however, and I think they should go with those plans.

Fuck, I'd rather they just did a Battle Royal.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:40 AM   #3
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Val Venis is clearly the People's Choice.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:46 AM   #4
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Val Venis is clearly the People's Choice.
Obviously. Too bad the WWE will have Val Venis come out at the PPV, Vince chuckle and go "Yeah, right," and Triple H will Pedigree him (LONE WOLF!) and get the title shot and bore the fuck out everyone but marks and Kliq supporters.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:05 PM   #5
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Obviously. Too bad the WWE will have Val Venis come out at the PPV, Vince chuckle and go "Yeah, right," and Triple H will Pedigree him (LONE WOLF!) and get the title shot and bore the fuck out everyone but marks and Kliq supporters.
Not even I'm excempt from HHH's boring ways.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:46 AM   #6
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I don't want Cena as champ, but currently he's the only guy who can hold the belt. If HBK didn't get injured I'd throw the belt on him. I wouldn't now though (assuming he's back real soon).

I really can't think of anyone to hold the belt.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:52 AM   #7
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It'll be Triple H, and the WWE's ratings won't go up, and he will look around and go "Gosh, Vince, maybe I should squash some lower-card guys again?"

The WWE should honestly just show they pay attention to the fans, and go with The Big Valbowski as WWE Champ. *Cue Xero's photoshopped picture of Val Venis walking down the isle with the WWE Championship at WrestleMania*
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I'd mark the flying fuck out if Jeff Hardy won the WWE title because of everythings that has occured.
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If Jeff wins the title with Congress all over the "Wellness Policy," WWE really ARE high.
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LOL, Randy Orton vs The Undertaker?????

But who, then, will beat Batista to ensure he has another 17 months of chasing the title in each PPV?
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I wouldn't mind seeing Jeff Hardy face Orton for the title at NM. Not win it, mind you, but wrestle for it. He's been mad over lately.
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If that happened....I think you all know what my reaction would be.

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Has to be Hardy. Have him drop the title to Shelton earlier in the night thanks to something illegal and have him push Orton to the edge before losing. It would start off a nice feud, culminating in a ladder match at Survivor Series in which Hardy wins for a small reign.
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You know what, I’m digging the Hardy idea, I really am, he is REALLY REALLY over. It would be a total shock, like when Nitro won the ECW belt, I like that.

However the best possible solution IMO is:

Orton in the ring on the mic:

‘Ok I still don’t know who my opponent tonight is, so just take a deep breath, I’m sure your nervous, and come and get ready to face your destiny’

Lights go out

Blue numbers appear on the tron

All the jumbled up letters start to spell out a word

JERICHO

Lights on, Y2J stood on the apron, in his Jesus stance

Smarks around the world pass out

When we come to, Orton has already won

I know that’s not going to happen, but man it would be fucking cool.

Out of all the other options I opt for Hardy though
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Did the secret, hidden, viral marketing code in the Matrix video have No Mercy's date or something?

I've forgotten amongst all the theories. Does that mean He could return on Sunday?
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Did the secret, hidden, viral marketing code in the Matrix video have No Mercy's date or something?

I've forgotten amongst all the theories. Does that mean He could return on Sunday?
The first one did yeah
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I could see it being Triple H, but it would be funny to see if Val Venis or even Jeff Hardy get it.
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I don't want to see Jeff Hardy win the WWE Championship yet. He's improved a lot, and he's over, and it would be a nice throwback to have the Intercontinental Champion the default #2 contender, but there is something wrong about Jeff Hardy becoming a World Champion before Matt Hardy, in my opinion.

Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho looks and sounds sweet. The videos have been teasing a Jericho return at No Mercy, and they might as well pull the trigger and have him become the new WWE Champion. Have him hold the belt through WrestleMania, and then have John Cena return and want the belt back. There's also the tension between them from when Jericho forced Cena out. Bring Johnny back as a ruthless heel, gone a little whack from his time on the shelf. There is money in that.

The unlikely option is to fucking listen the poll and have Val Venis put in the main event with Randy Orton. People may not buy it, but you could have Stone Cold Steve Austin approach Val backstage, and remind him that he was rehired by Austin as Val Venis because Austin knew he was capable of this, blah blah. Also during the show, Mr. Kennedy wants Randy Orton to thank him for softening up John Cena for him. Orton just laughs in Mr. Kennedy's face, and says that it is he who deserves the credit for Cena being out, not Kennedy. Randy Orton leaves, and Mr. Kennedy tightens his jaw a little bit. Kennedy can then cost Randy Orton the match, setting up The Money Shot by Venis. Fuck, that would be greatness. As for Chris Jericho? I think they should just run another teaser to close the show, cutting into Val Venis' title win, which upsets him.
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Let me get this straight, you don’t want a Jeff Hardy win, but you’re all for a guy who got jobbed out to Santino ‘I can’t beat anyone’ Marella getting the big win
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Hey, Val hasn't lost to Santino yet.

I'm honestly just as not as big a Jeff Hardy fan as Matt Hardy. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Jeff win the WWE Title some day, but I'd much rather Matt Hardy get there first. I suppose once Jeff is there, though, it should be easier for Matt, but still.

I also just prefer Val Venis to Jeff Hardy.
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Listen to a rigged poll Alienoid?

Not very fair on other performers if that's the case.

What val can maybe expect out of this is a reasonable mid card push. But the guy is in Gimmick hell. They tried and tried to shed the towel/porn star thing, but they just couldn't.

It's a shame, but the guy just has zero charisma and no 'thing' like being 7 feet tall to bypass that.
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Listen to a rigged poll Alienoid?

Not very fair on other performers if that's the case.

What val can maybe expect out of this is a reasonable mid card push. But the guy is in Gimmick hell. They tried and tried to shed the towel/porn star thing, but they just couldn't.

It's a shame, but the guy just has zero charisma and no 'thing' like being 7 feet tall to bypass that.
Val is often overrated in his charisma by some people (and this is coming from me), but he's certainly got more than "zero charisma." The guy is still somewhat over despite being a jobber for so long. In the past four years, Funaki has gotten a bigger push than Val Venis. The guy still manages to get the crowd applauding when he does pick up a win, however.

Being stuck with the gimmick is more the WWE's choice than them not actually being able to remove him from it. The WWE have actually been fairly relaxed with the gimmick recently. The guy used to be a porn star, and until RAW it felt like he was a former porn star. He'd just been kind of a directionless babyface on Heat.

As far as the poll goes, we helped out a lot, but we're not powerful enough to really get Val Venis 386000 votes are we? Unless someone voted a lot.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:23 AM   #27
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Hey, Val hasn't lost to Santino yet.

I'm honestly just as not as big a Jeff Hardy fan as Matt Hardy. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Jeff win the WWE Title some day, but I'd much rather Matt Hardy get there first. I suppose once Jeff is there, though, it should be easier for Matt, but still.

I also just prefer Val Venis to Jeff Hardy.
I can’t explain why I like Jeff, I honestly don’t know, his ring work can be sloppy, his mic work is near non-existent. Yet I still find myself compelled to watch him, he’s got that ‘IT’ factor, where you know that no matter who he’s wrestling there’s always a chance he’s going to win because he will do whatever it takes.

Whoever ends up in the rnig with Randy, chances are they are going to lose as Orton is the only guy they have that’s been pushed anywhere near the title, so the whole ‘who is Orton going to face’ is a moot point, as it’s more Orton’s going to win, but against who.

It’s a really good idea not to announce the opponent yet, it gives people a reason to buy the PPV, with the SAVE_US, a packed card and now a guaranteed new raw champ after over a year, this is looking to be on the biggest ‘none big 4’ PPV’s in some time
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:27 AM   #28
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I can’t explain why I like Jeff, I honestly don’t know, his ring work can be sloppy, his mic work is near non-existent. Yet I still find myself compelled to watch him, he’s got that ‘IT’ factor, where you know that no matter who he’s wrestling there’s always a chance he’s going to win because he will do whatever it takes.

Whoever ends up in the rnig with Randy, chances are they are going to lose as Orton is the only guy they have that’s been pushed anywhere near the title, so the whole ‘who is Orton going to face’ is a moot point, as it’s more Orton’s going to win, but against who.

It’s a really good idea not to announce the opponent yet, it gives people a reason to buy the PPV, with the SAVE_US, a packed card and now a guaranteed new raw champ after over a year, this is looking to be on the biggest ‘none big 4’ PPV’s in some time
Since he has returned, I have been a lot more interested in Jeff. I don't think he's fantastic, as I've said, but he's been a lot more substancial since re-signing with the WWE. I'd like to see him move up to upper mid-carder status for sure.

I am intrigued by the prospect of Randy Orton's opponent being a mystery, but I am not sure if I want to order in case I am disappointed. It could be a Chris Jericho, Val Venis or even a Jeff Hardy, which I would be fine with. It's something different. Of course, it could also be a Triple H. I do not want to support that.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:36 AM   #29
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To be fair Trips hasn't had a sniff of the title in over 3 years now, I wouldn't be as against him winning it as I have been in the past
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To be fair Trips hasn't had a sniff of the title in over 3 years now, I wouldn't be as against him winning it as I have been in the past
That's true. It's always in the back of my mind when I say I'm sick of Triple H being a World Champion. But it's true, I am still sick of it. Triple H hasn't been WWE Champion since 2002, which is about five years, but it feels like just yesterday to me.

I think I'd be OK with Triple H winning the WWE Championship in 2008, after WrestleMania. I'd also be OK with him swapping brands and winning the belt somewhere else, but that won't happen.

I dunno, it's been a while, but I'm still not keen on Triple H winning the belt again.
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I haven't seen Matt as being better than Jeff since Matt was un-fired. Jeff's looked more credible to me since Matt started rolling downhill.
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Not a bad shout
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Silly question, but did Meltzer (I assume he reported that, if not, whoever did) just pull random matches out of his ass? I mean, really...
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Is that where ne normally pulls things?
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No, usually his urethra.
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What about Austin?

Seriously, a really quick title reign, will give them time to build some main eventers and it will push the DVD
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What about Austin?

Seriously, a really quick title reign, will give them time to build some main eventers and it will push the DVD
How does this help the company? Small spike in the ratings for a week or two?
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How does this help the company? Small spike in the ratings for a week or two?
WWE isn't about the long term, it's about quick wins you fool!
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