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Old 10-05-2007, 11:29 AM   #1
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RIP Brian Pillman - Ten Years Later
It's been ten years since the death of Brian Pillman. I hadn't seen much of him until I saw his DVD and now think he was absolutely brilliant (I had seen his run with the Hart Foundation as a fan, but that was about it).

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Old 10-05-2007, 11:31 AM   #2
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Classic RP right there....


Pillman was the goods. No one played a better pyscho than him. When he pulled a gun on Steve Austin I damn near pissed my pants.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:46 AM   #4
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:46 AM   #5
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Never really saw much of him besides this run with the harts and golddust.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:55 AM   #6
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In many ways, he and Eddie Gilbert should have been warnings. They were among the first to die of this current string due to Painkillers. Instead of learning from those mistakes, they continue to fall.

Also, fuck Vince because of that interview with Melanie
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If you need warning signs that doing massive amounts of painkillers while drinking, and beating you body up is bad, you are retarded. It isn't the fact that wrestlers don't know it is bad for them. There are other reasons that keep them on their path of self destruction. Just like everyone knows smoking is harmful to their health. It is more than informing them that it is bad for them.
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Sid Fucked him up with that botched power bomb.....thats the only reaction I ever had to him. Tough guys though. I never seen much of his loose cannon work, doesnt seem that special to me. His ECW debut sucked, it was him swearing too much and trying to hard to be CRAZY. HE was like a Dad trying to be cool with the kids.
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Trying too hard? Guess it worked, since he convinced everyone to the point they really thought he was. Talent.

One decade already..long time ago yet still seems like yesterday to me at times. Still miss him a lot.

"It's all a work you know....I'm not really the Loose cannon, it's all just their perception of reality".



Pillman in the begining and end.

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Sid Fucked him up with that botched power bomb.....thats the only reaction I ever had to him. Tough guys though. I never seen much of his loose cannon work, doesnt seem that special to me. His ECW debut sucked, it was him swearing too much and trying to hard to be CRAZY. HE was like a Dad trying to be cool with the kids.
god, there's always one in the bunch. judging from your first sentence, you've seen very little of his work if you're going to name that moment off. very ignorant post. whatever though. watch his work before making comments, that's all I'll say.

And that anology was really terrible considering the ECW fans were as old as he was.
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:49 PM   #11
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Besides JR, did Pillman ever admit that it was a work to anyone else in the business?
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:03 PM   #12
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I always assumed Austin would have had to know, considering they used to phone each other often enough and talked about the business, but he even said he never really wanted to ask.
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:19 PM   #13
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Pillman was awesome. Before his injury he had some great matches, and could def do a great promo. He also had that attitude edge to him before the era began.
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Damn, 10 years already? Where the hell did it go. Also scary to note that its also over 8 years since Owen died.

All I ever saw of Pillman growing up was the WWF Hart Foundation stuff, and enjoyed it. Since then, I've sought out more of his work, from Flyin' Brian onwards, and the guy was a great talent, and made the most of his great charisma and mic work when he needed to.
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:56 AM   #15
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Did anybody see Pillman vs. Jushin Liger in WCW way back in the day...?

Awesome. He was one of my favorite wrestlers, no I retract that, still is one of my favorite wrestlers.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:26 AM   #16
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........would I be a total dick if I asked if you were talking about Liger or Pillman? They're both awesome.
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........would I be a total dick if I asked if you were talking about Liger or Pillman? They're both awesome.
I was meaning Pillman...but Liger is awesome as well, and still going pretty strong
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:22 AM   #18
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Never cared for Pillman. The guy wasn't anything too special. He's like the Kurt Cobain of wrestling. Pretty good, called great. Good for him I guess.
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Never cared for Pillman. The guy wasn't anything too special. He's like the Kurt Cobain of wrestling. Pretty good, called great. Good for him I guess.
So he's pretty much like every other talent humped by the IWC?
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So he's pretty much like every other talent humped by the IWC?
Naw. Pillman's popular because he's dead.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:56 AM   #21
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Naw. Pillman's popular because he's dead.

Nailed it on the head.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:55 AM   #22
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One thing I noticed in that tribute to Pillman, is how many guys at that show followed him too early.

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Pillman is the Bo Jackson of wrestling.

He could have been one of the greatest ever, but injuries and the such ended those chances earlly, and they ended up just being average afterwards.
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he's not even that popular though. I don't know more then a handful of guys on here who really like him and no casual fan I know mentions him.

But the WWE must of saw something to put his DVD out ahead of lots of guys.

Most Pillman fans liked Pillman when he was a wrestler, not afterwards. I started liking him when he was with Austin.
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I never got to see a lot of his early stuff, but I was still a bit of a fan.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:07 PM   #26
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There's was always something about Pillman I just loved. He was a damn good wrestler, a great high flier for his time, and all in all damn well rounded. When he became the loose cannon, it was pretty damn obvious he had what it took to be a big time player. Of course, a car accident, and a lot of pain meds can change a lot of things....
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:25 PM   #27
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Pillman was one of those guys who had a presence about him. You only had to look at him and say "that guy has IT". In fact, when teamed with Austin Pillman was the better of the two, Pillman had more potential, and Pillman sort of carried the team.
Pillman was a natural in anything he ended up doing. He pushed boundaries and was way ahead of his time. He moved things forward, whether it be from the start of his career, pushing the cruiser division forward with the high flying, or later on when he kicked the doors down with the attitude he possessed. Much like Piper, he was advanced and very intelligent towards the business.

You dont make a dvd of a guy that lasted about a year with a company all while injured without knowing that the reason why was simply because he was special enough for it.

People who talk like Matthew admitted they knew nothing about him so when he talks about him you can see that it's true, with all the ignorance he displayed.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:13 PM   #28
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Agree with Destor. Watched him in WCW and WWE. Saw his ECW stuff years after the fact. And I do own his DVD.

He was alright. Not one of the greatest of all time, but still noteworthy.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:44 AM   #29
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You can play the special card, but th only reason he got a DVD is not because he was special, or he has IT and he didnt get a chance to show it, it is because he DIED and his LATE career was surrounded with controversy.

Give me a fucking break, you expect me to believe the YELLOW DOG and the guy who lost a DRESS match gimmick was the diamond in the rough?

Dying made his career. IF he had just gotten fired and not died, where to you think his career would be today, or his Legacy be, HONESTLY?
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:14 AM   #30
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You can play the special card, but th only reason he got a DVD is not because he was special, or he has IT and he didnt get a chance to show it, it is because he DIED and his LATE career was surrounded with controversy.

Give me a fucking break, you expect me to believe the YELLOW DOG and the guy who lost a DRESS match gimmick was the diamond in the rough?

Dying made his career. IF he had just gotten fired and not died, where to you think his career would be today, or his Legacy be, HONESTLY?
come on? Yellow dog and Dress? Is that what we are supposed to remember Brian Pillman by? jesus, shut the fuck up already. You know nothing.

Did you not see his matches with Liger, which were voted some of the top matches of the year, did you not see his work with Steamboat and Douglas, did you not see his work with Luger in 89, did you not see his work with Zenk in the tag divisions, his work with the Blondes and then of course being the most talked about wrestler in 1995 and 1996.

Either your being stupid to be stupid or you are the most ignorant poster I've ever seen on these forums before and that's saying a hell of a lot
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:10 PM   #31
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WTF? Yellow dog and Dress? Is that what we are supposed to remember Brian Pillman by? jesus, shut the fuck up already. You know nothing.
Yes, the general population of wrestling knows who Liger is, and remembers Pillman's matches with him.

No, wait, that's the Smarktards and pretty much nobody else in America.

Smarks seem about as in-touch with the average viewer as Trekkies are with the general population of TV viewers.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:36 AM   #32
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Give me a fucking break, you expect me to believe the YELLOW DOG and the guy who lost a DRESS match gimmick was the diamond in the rough?
by the way, The Ringmaster, Rocky Maivia, Hunter Hearst Helmsley.... hmmm. who lost a Hog Pen match again? Who feuded with Savio Vega in strap matches? hmmm.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:45 AM   #33
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Without a death, his career has as much impact as DOug Furnas and Phil LaFon.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:16 AM   #34
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Without a death, his career has as much impact as DOug Furnas and Phil LaFon.
lol wow. are you just being an idiot or do you seriusly mean that? if this is serious and your not just trying to get a rouse out of people in this thread, then you really are dumb. Furnas and Lafon and Brian Pillman. wow.
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:59 PM   #35
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lol wow. are you just being an idiot or do you seriusly mean that? if this is serious and your not just trying to get a rouse out of people in this thread, then you really are dumb. Furnas and Lafon and Brian Pillman. wow.
He's being a jackass basically.

Pillman at least agreed to do what was asked of him. That also says alot.

As for his Furnas and Lafon comment, none of them knocked down any doors. Pillman brought the attitude into the company. In fact, they signed Pillman clearly with the intention in mind that he was going to help pave the road to where they wanted to be.

Great on the mic, great in the ring, great overall. Death means shit in this case. You know why? Because the people who knew of him and who are interested in quality are going to buy his dvd. Those fucktards who enjoy Batista and Shannon Moore today arent going to care.

It's like a sports athlete who has so much potential and skill dying early or injuring himself sometime in his career..he had the stats while around and the potential to get better, but it was all ended. Thus, the HOF numbers and acheivements arent all there, but when you look back upon him, you go, that guy was fucking great while he was playing(Pavel Bure, for example, in hockey).

Then again he's simply reading up on Pillman and some of the parts of his career and making uninformed comments about them. He stated he barely saw the man...so ya know, that says it all.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:47 AM   #36
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I'd say the DVD is just another attempt to cash in on controversy and death. I mean "suicidal wrestler" is pretty marketable on it's own. If Spike Dudley blew his head off I could see a DVD made where they only talked about how tough he was.
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So you're saying WWE will be releasing another Benoit DVD?
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So you're saying WWE will be releasing another Benoit DVD?
Give it 20 years and hell yeah they will.
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So you're saying WWE will be releasing another Benoit DVD?
Given time, I can all but guarantee you they will. They won't do it in 2007 or 2008 or 2009, but once some time has passed, they will cash in.
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