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Old 12-11-2007, 03:09 PM   #1
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WWE's Tentative WM plans (Spoilers)
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It was noted on Raw last week that the winner of the Jeff Hardy vs. Triple H match at Armageddon will get a WWE title shot at the Royal Rumble. This match is crucial because it will set off several major storylines for the next few months.

As things have been laid out, Triple H is set to win the title from Randy Orton, probably at the Royal Rumble. If that's the case, then Triple H will be going over Hardy at Armageddon. And Orton is likely retaining his title against Jericho.

The plan after that is for Triple H to wrestle Batista at WrestleMania. There is major talk of doing this match at Mania. Plans originally called for Triple H to take on Orton at the big show, but WWE is going in a different direction.

It is not known if Batista is winning the Royal Rumble, but it would make the most sense because the Rumble winner can face any brand's champion at Mania. Seeing how Batista is on SmackDown and Triple H is on Raw, then Batista would pretty much have to win the Rumble because it wouldn't work with the Elimination Chamber at No Way Out as that match will be limited to wrestlers on the same brand. The unselected champion will have six of the wrestlers on his brand face off in the Elimination Chamber with the winner getting the other championship shot at WrestleMania. It looks like that is going to be a SmackDown brand match with Batista having lost his World Heavyweight belt by then.
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I know that this is purely rumor right now, but honestly, I think that these WrestleMania plans are total shit. Batista vs. Triple H was already done, and it wasn't exactly a fucking classic. Why they would book a match like this instead of something with one of the other, better, more deserving young stars in the company is beyond me. Michaels vs. Jericho would be better. Michaels vs. Jericho vs. Triple H would be better. Why have one of Smackdown's only main event faces cross over to wrestle RAW's Triple H? It doesn't make any fucking sense when Kennedy, Jericho, Hardy, and to a lesser extent, CM Punk are all around to face him in matches that have never been done, or at least never been done well and on that scale.

Batista vs. Triple H. Jesus Christ.

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Old 12-11-2007, 03:25 PM   #3
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If they want to have anyone i the ain event in 3 years when HHH is too old, they need to book Orton clean over HHH at WM....have Orton barely make it with his title to WM and beat HHH to solidify him at the top.

On Smackdown, have Flair on his magnificent run win the rumble chamber and challenge Edge for the title, and put edge over. I think those would draw decent numbers, better than HHH (Top Face) vs batista (number 5 Face i the company)

Or have Edge take taker's streak.
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Old 12-11-2007, 03:27 PM   #4
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The majority of us want y2j vs hbk. But there are very shallow chances for this match to actually happen at Mania. Jeff vs Punk for the ECW World Heavyweight title sounds good. Kennedy vs Edge for the World Heavyweight title? they gotta have MVP vs Matt Hardy for the u.s title.
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Yeah, because having the same guys constantly in the main events is a sure way to increase buyrates. It is retarded.
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Jericho vs Michaels for the WWE championship would take the show in itself, then add Edge vs Undertaker for the WHC versus his streak with edge going over.
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What would Edge gain out of ending Taker's streak? it should rather be saved to give a young gun a huge push
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There are no young guns in the right position.
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Edge is in the right position. In the scheme of things he IS a young gun.

I don't know who'd be preferred? Please don't say Kennedy because he needs to do a lot to get back to where he was a year ago at this time.
MVP, just not the right fit and he's probably the same age as Edge. So isn't Kennedy for that matter.
You give that push to some young guy out of the gates and they'll turn into Brock Lesnar
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MVP possibly?
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MVP needs to prove himself still. I like him, but the problem is that a guy comes along and puts together a good uppermidcard run and is a solid US or IC champion and he's instantly pushed to the main event, the wrong way.
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MVP Needs to die, also Batista should avoid the ME of Mania at all times. Triple H carried him through one once, why should he have to do it again. Orton vs. Triple H, or Triple H vs. Jericho II. That's how it should be.
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Jeff Hardy should win the rumble and face Taker or Edge for the World Title at Mania.
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MVP possibly?
He's like 40.
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Batista v HHH at Wrestlemania XXIV?

Never gonna happen.
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Why not?
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Because it doesn't have The Rock in it.

Look, all of the matches that WE want to see happen won't happen because they almost all leave out Triple H.

Jericho vs. Michaels and Taker vs. Edge seem like the 2 best main events we could have. But they don't involve Triple H. And when's the last time HHH didn't wrestle in a World Title match at Mania? Not since X-7. And Mania 24 won't be the place for the next one.

That selfish fucking prick.
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Why not?
Don't want to go into 'Noid mode, however, too much needs to happen for this to occur:
  • Either HHH or Batista need to turn heel - not going to have another face-face ME
  • HHH will need to win the Rumble to get a shot at Batista or he needs to switch to Smackdown! - He won't leave RAW
  • Batista moves to RAW - too few faces left on Smackdown!
  • If HHH goes into WM as Champion, then either Batista would have to lose his belt beforehand or win the Rumble - My tip is that either Jeff or Ric (as a final hurrah) will win the Rumble
  • I can't see the HHH/Jeff angle finishing before the Rumble which IMO doesn't leave enough time before WM to set up a Bats feud

If it does happen, I'm concerned that the storyline will be rushed and end up being crap and they can't afford that for WM.

I'm not saying that it can't happen, just not in time for WM.
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And when's the last time HHH didn't wrestle in a World Title match at Mania? Not since X-7. And Mania 24 won't be the place for the next one.

That selfish fucking prick.
WM 23?
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a WM he was eligible for I think he means
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also Orton needs to go over anyone clean in the WM Main event without dropping the title before then
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Don't want to go into 'Noid mode, however, too much needs to happen for this to occur:
  • Either HHH or Batista need to turn heel - not going to have another face-face ME
  • HHH will need to win the Rumble to get a shot at Batista or he needs to switch to Smackdown! - He won't leave RAW
  • Batista moves to RAW - too few faces left on Smackdown!
  • If HHH goes into WM as Champion, then either Batista would have to lose his belt beforehand or win the Rumble - My tip is that either Jeff or Ric (as a final hurrah) will win the Rumble
  • I can't see the HHH/Jeff angle finishing before the Rumble which IMO doesn't leave enough time before WM to set up a Bats feud

If it does happen, I'm concerned that the storyline will be rushed and end up being crap and they can't afford that for WM.

I'm not saying that it can't happen, just not in time for WM.
Point 1 - Triple H destroys Hardy at Armageddon and turns heel, probably using the sledge. Not hard at all to pull off.

2/3 - Batista moves to RAW.

4 - Batista loses the title to Edge or Taker at Armageddon, possibly through Triple H interference. Batista wins the Rumble.

5 - They'll have blow off match on RAW and they'll be done with it. Not how it SHOULD go but it's how it WILL go.

Armageddon (starting with Hunter's turn) to WrestleMania buildup is more than enough time. If you're worried about that then you should be more worried about the Elimination Chamber match at No Way Out for the other title shot.
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Point 1 - Triple H destroys Hardy at Armageddon and turns heel, probably using the sledge. Not hard at all to pull off.

2/3 - Batista moves to RAW.

4 - Batista loses the title to Edge or Taker at Armageddon, possibly through Triple H interference. Batista wins the Rumble.

5 - They'll have blow off match on RAW and they'll be done with it. Not how it SHOULD go but it's how it WILL go.

Armageddon (starting with Hunter's turn) to WrestleMania buildup is more than enough time. If you're worried about that then you should be more worried about the Elimination Chamber match at No Way Out for the other title shot.
All possible but:

Point 1 - are you saying that HHH wins or just destroys Hardy but Hardy wins or No Contest? 'Cause if Hardy wins that changes everything.

Points 2/3 - means one less face on Smackdown! Someone (maybe Finlay) takes on this role

Point 4 - very possible, but I don't see him winning the Rumble.

A lot of people reckon HHH is going to turn. I have no doubt that he will eventually, but I don't think right now.

Oh and Inno....SHUT THE GODDAM DOOR!!!
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1 - Triple H wins then beats on Hardy. Instant heel turn, simple.

2/3 - Let's face it, SmackDown! is only there to feed to RAW anyway...

4 - Why not? He loses the title to Edge, and Vickie calls for Batista never to get a shot again. He wins, but picks Triple H instead.
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I really think Flair is going to win the Rumble.

I think it would be fitting for him to win. Would not surprise me if a deal was struck with Vince for him to go out this way.

Who knows, storyline may go that he doesn't take the option to wrestle for the Championship (because he's retiring) but he passes on "the right to challenge" to HHH. In which case yeah HHH may then challenge Bats.
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Flair winning is the worst possible main event. I'd rather see Khali/Hogan than Flair in the main event of WrestleMania at this point.
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No. That's just it. Flair wins the Rumble but won't be in the ME at WM. He passes that right on to someone else e.g. HHH
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Could be worse. Could be Hogan vs Undertaker... with Hogan going over this time.
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No. That's just it. Flair wins the Rumble but won't be in the ME at WM. He passes that right on to someone else e.g. HHH
So basically waste the buildup of the Rumble winner?
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Hey. Not saying it's great. But it's an angle that hasn't been done for a long time.

Obviously Ric and Vince had to come to some sort of arrangement for how Ric was going to retire. NO WAY was he going to win the WWE/WHC belts again.

This may be the compromise that was reached.

I just don't know how else Flair is going to go out on a high. This way, he goes out the Rumble winner, he'll be happy with that, and then because they're friends he gives HHH the #1 contender right. Who knows, story may go that Flair wants to ME WM but HHH says he shouldn't bother (because he's retiring) and he should give the right to him. Maybe they feud a bit, HHH turns heel and challenges Ric to a "fight for the right" match which becomes Ric's retirement match.
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So now you're saying not have the Rumble winner main event WrestleMania? Or are you saying do it at No Way Out and then only have one month for the build to BOTH titles?

Either way your buildup time argument is out the window.
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With the return of Evolution last night, I've been trying to figure out how Flair is going to go out.

Now that someone has suggested that Bats v HHH at WM is a good chance, I'm trying to fit Flair in the picture somewhere.

There can be no denying that Flair will have to go out in a big way - somehow. I'm figuring that WM would be his choice, but it won't be in a title match. Next best option - Rumble winner - number 1 entrant.

Who knows, after he wins, maybe HHH comes out to congratulate Flair, turns on him (forces him into retirement with the help of sledgey) and Bats comes out for the save.
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Yeah, because having the same guys constantly in the main events is a sure way to increase buyrates. It is retarded.
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You had to figure they'd probably use Bats and HHH in the main events. I guess the only plus side would be that they'll kill two birds with one stone.
I'd rather see them do HHH vs Hardy and Edge vs Taker but then again when's the last time I got what I want for a Wrestlemania main event?
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