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Old 01-01-2008, 12:00 AM   #1
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The figure four
How long ago was it that wwe decided it should also count as a pinning move? I can't remember it being a pinning move in any other wrestling organisation, when flair was with wwf in 91 it wasn't a pinning move then either. Just seems over the last 5 or 6 years theyve made it into a dual pin\submision hold?



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Old 01-01-2008, 01:01 AM   #2
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That whole pinning thing when the shoulders are down during the figure four is bullshit anyway. It's just to add tension and isn't really legitimate... as far as legitimacy goes in pro wrestling.
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:21 AM   #3
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I believe they started counting it as a fall in WCW, not WWE. I think he even won a few matches like that.
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Old 01-01-2008, 03:18 AM   #4
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Yeah I remember seeing that in WCW too.
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:50 AM   #5
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Yeah, they did it in WCW. Really fucking lame though, since it's not a pinning move, at all.
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Old 01-02-2008, 06:03 PM   #6
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It's been done before WCW
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:49 AM   #7
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Old 01-02-2008, 06:29 PM   #8
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They did it in WCW.
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:18 PM   #9
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I think this was done in WCW.
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:35 PM   #10
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WCW, it was done in.
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:59 PM   #11
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Done WCW it in was.
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:41 AM   #12
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:24 AM   #13
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:25 AM   #14
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Didnt Flair beat savage in 92/93 for the title that way, i think savage passed out or some shit.
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Old 01-20-2008, 03:10 AM   #15
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Didnt Flair beat savage in 92/93 for the title that way, i think savage passed out or some shit.
Correct, September 1992.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:39 PM   #16
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It can count as a pin much like having your pinky on someone's nose counts as a pin.
A part of the attacker is on top of the victim, the victim's shoulders are on the mat, 1-2-3.
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:07 AM   #17
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But the legs are equally entertwined, and therefore the referee should not be able to constitute whom is pinning whom, despite whose shoulders are touching the mat.
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:55 AM   #18
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I saw it once as a double pin, as the 2 guys passed out.
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:26 AM   #19
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I'm pretty sure I've seen the ref count it if the one doing the move has his shoulders down.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:45 AM   #20
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Try this experiment.

Find a trusted friend.

Have him put the Figure Four on you.

Have him lift his body weight upwards with his hands.

You will find that your shoulders are, indeed, pressed to the mat, albiet with not much force, and for a person with consciousness intact, it isn't hard to raise a shoulder from that.

An observer will also notice that it is easy to determine who is doing the move to who.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:27 PM   #22
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:00 AM   #23
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