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Old 02-08-2008, 05:49 AM   #1
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So, Smackdown is leaving the CW
What do you think this means for the future? I'm sure another company will pick them up.

Think they will still be a Friday night show? Or move to Thursday and compete with TNA?

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Old 02-08-2008, 07:29 AM   #2
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You know you could've at LEAST posted the news story.
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Old 02-08-2008, 07:31 AM   #3
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and at MOST given us a free sandwich!
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I'm sure another company will pick them up.

The things is, though, that not just any other network/channel/whatever you want to call it will do. They need one that has a decent amount of viewers or at least is available across most of America. Since I don't know much about America I'll almost leave it at that: getting on an NBC-owned network is probably their best hope.

And returning to Thursday would also be a lot better since that gives them a larger possible audience, not to mention I'd love to see any sort of ratings war between wrestling shows.

Edit: The news stories are everywhere, btw:
http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/a...wnmovingfromcw
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art...dustryid=47171
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...e4dc915b1479f8
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/spor...ng_the_cw.html

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They should move to TNT and rename Smackdown to Nitro.
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:11 AM   #6
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You know you could've at LEAST posted the news story.
There's nothing more to add, they are moving, why would I lie?
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:12 AM   #7
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There's nothing more to add, they are moving, why would I lie?
What harm would it do to actually copy and paste a news story?

When I saw this with no story or anything, my reaction was "Huh? Where the fuck did he hear about this and how did this happen?"
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:20 AM   #10
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Untold harm, the likes of which have never been seen, it could be like 9/11 times 9864437



Plus I didn't feel like it ok? Jeesh!
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:15 AM   #11
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The things is, though, that not just any other network/channel/whatever you want to call it will do. They need one that has a decent amount of viewers or at least is available across most of America. Since I don't know much about America I'll almost leave it at that: getting on an NBC-owned network is probably their best hope.
The question is: Who will have them?

Raw used to primarily be attractive because it would draw consistently top rating numbers, and as we've seen in recent years, they've had trouble negotiating for that. Smackdown does lower numbers on broadcast, where the lowest rated "top" shows outdraw cable by like double.

NBC/Universal seems like a good match, since WWE's already got deals with them for two programs, but remember how quickly they backburnered Saturday Night's Main Event. I'm not sure we can expect them to take in Smackdown! Right now.
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:22 AM   #12
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:24 AM   #13
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I'm sure a network would take them around this point because of the writers strike.

More shit they can put on TV they dont need writers for.
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:59 AM   #14
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I love how WWE could use its second-rate (or third-rate?) show to compete with TNA and still blow them out of the water.
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:03 AM   #15
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Here's the article from WWE.com:

“After a successful decade of SmackDown on both UPN and The CW, World Wrestling Entertainment and The CW and have agreed to conclude our partnership. Since CW's exclusive negotiation period ran out as of last Thursday, January 31, we have been contacted and have been in negotiations with other networks. WWE SmackDown will continue to air on The CW until the conclusion of the 2007-08 broadcast season. We are grateful to Les Moonves, Dawn Ostroff, and their entire organization for bringing WWE SmackDown to millions of viewers for so many years.”

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My guess is that they'll either go to an NBC broadcast or cable network. Cable is more likely to me.
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Could be the end of the brand split come the summer, huh?

Even if SmackDown were to continue, WWE will have to really pack it with star-power to increase ratings and increase their leverage with other companies to carry it.
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:09 AM   #17
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:59 AM   #18
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I think we are seeing more crossing over (like Mark Henry for no reason what so ever on Raw) so I think they will keep their established rosters, but 1 or 2 guys might show up each week
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Smackdown! on Sci-Fi. Right before Flash Gordon and Stargate Atlantis.
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I think we are seeing more crossing over (like Mark Henry for no reason what so ever on Raw) so I think they will keep their established rosters, but 1 or 2 guys might show up each week
They are thinking of moving Mark Henry permanently to Raw to feud with Cena and Umaga to Smackdown.
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Smackdown! on Sci-Fi. Right before Flash Gordon and Stargate Atlantis.
Two more hours of TV nobody'll watch.
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This. Is not. The end. Of. The brand split. Period.
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This. Is not. The end. Of. The brand split. Period.
This much is certain. People, the brand split is very good for WWE for the most part. A unified roster has some benefits, but they don't outweigh the double dip effect WWE gets from multiple brands.
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They are thinking of moving Mark Henry permanently to Raw to feud with Cena and Umaga to Smackdown.
That was rumored for like the last year.
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The brand split only exists if they honour it. How long before Raw, too, reaches a "talent exchange" deal with SmackDown and ECW? TV will just be a free for all, despite the brand split in theory still remaining in place.

The brand split works just fine for WWE for the most part (out on the road, keeping guys away from each other to ensure freshness when they fight later on, less pressure/dates for the top guys) but across the board it probably hurts their TV output more than it helps it. If the brand split remained, but anybody could show up on any show at any time, it may help the ratings increase across the three shows. I stress, "may". And at a time when WWE needs all the ammunition it can get to secure a decent deal for it's second most important programme, I would suggest they will be doing EVERYTHING they can to give SmackDown a boost.
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The brand split with free borders works best. It allows a maximum amount of talent on a show without forcing them to actually use EVERYONE on every show (which is obviously is what they'd want to do without the split).

Example: Cena is on RAW feuding with Orton. If they wanted to push, say, No Way Out, they'd hold a special RAW match on SmackDown! one week. But the feud wouldn't jeopardize SmackDown! TV every week, only RAW's.

It also opens up more feuds. With this it would be more like the AL and NL in baseball than WWE, WCW and ECW in wrestling.

There's no real harm in doing it honestly, and I think it WOULD improve ratings.
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:52 PM   #28
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I think we are seeing more crossing over (like Mark Henry for no reason what so ever on Raw) so I think they will keep their established rosters, but 1 or 2 guys might show up each week
Mark Henry crossed over purely for storyline purposes. They were debating whether Cena was fully healed or not. So they brought out Henry to prove Cena will always be superman, even with no limbs
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Old 02-08-2008, 03:00 PM   #29
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I can't be the only person here who only watches one show. For me, I watch Raw every week, partly because it's live, and partly because it's just the most convenient show for me to catch. I record ECW and SmackDown on my Sky+ (Tivo) but usually only skip through them or sometimes delete them without ever watching them.

My main regular exposure to SmackDown and ECW's roster comes during PPV shows.

Now, if I'm enjoying a feud, and there is a chance that will carry on over on ECW or on SmackDown, I'm far more likely to actually make a point of watching it as it airs, or at the very least actually sitting and watching my recording of it.

There is no reason why WWE can't continue to promote two seperate house show tours, and make a point of promoting different guys on different shows without making them show exclusive, with only a few select guys/feuds making air more than once in a week.

Example... a feud between, say, Shawn Michaels and Triple H may get hot and spill over across all three shows. But should Umaga be booked for Raw, he won't be on SmackDown that week. Should Kennedy be booked for SmackDown, he won't appear on Raw and so on.

The whole reason for the brand split (as well as promoting seperate PPVs, which failed, and seperate house shows) was to build new stars... there's no reason why they can't limit their guys to one show per week, without maintaining a brand split at all.
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Old 02-08-2008, 03:01 PM   #30
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Old 02-08-2008, 03:11 PM   #31
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Wouldn't be surprised if Smackdown ended up on USA or FX.
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This could be a perfect opportunity to rebrand the show. Maybe work out a deal whereby it airs live each week. A name change and a new look wouldn't go amiss... it certainly doesn't have the sentimental value of Raw. A grittier show, much like the original switch from boring old Monday Night Raw to The War Zone, aired live each week could be a refreshing shot in the arm for WWE programming.
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Old 02-08-2008, 03:36 PM   #33
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I can't be the only person here who only watches one show. For me, I watch Raw every week, partly because it's live, and partly because it's just the most convenient show for me to catch. I record ECW and SmackDown on my Sky+ (Tivo) but usually only skip through them or sometimes delete them without ever watching them.

My main regular exposure to SmackDown and ECW's roster comes during PPV shows.
I download Raw almost every week if I can be bothered, but I only read the results of smackdown and ECW. In fact, I've probably only watched about 3 ECW shows, and none of them since D2D.
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:28 PM   #35
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I can't be the only person here who only watches one show. For me, I watch Raw every week, partly because it's live, and partly because it's just the most convenient show for me to catch. I record ECW and SmackDown on my Sky+ (Tivo) but usually only skip through them or sometimes delete them without ever watching them.

Among other things, I think the fact that not everyone gets Cable in the US (Broadcast only) and the fact that not everyone who does gets Sci Fi (or even CW) would suggest a lot of people probably only watch one show.

But yeah, I watch 0 shows, but before I was watching no WWE, I watched Raw only. While there are a lot of people I like on Smackdown, they haven't managed to book the show in a way that has made me care about them in ages. Wasted talent.
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:54 PM   #36
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Everyonce in a blue moon I hear about something I like happening on Smackdown!, but it hasn't really had me going since the King Booker era.
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I agree that a complete makeover for the brand would be the best thing for it now. Let it go live, and people might actually care. Don't air it on Fridays, and people might actually watch. It may lose the "B show" stigma.

The bright side of SmackDown! now not having a guaranteed future, is that they will probably get a better deal in the rumoured post-WrestleMania draft than they would normally get. The WWE has been known to panic when they lose a TV deal, and they might just be desperate enough to send Shawn Michaels, or even *gasp* John Cena (because you know he would be willing to do it) over to SmackDown! and really help them out with the ratings and the like.

This is good, because Michael Hayes is probably the best writer the WWE has at the moment, although Dusty Rhodes is not bad. Those guys are a part of the SmackDown!/ECW talent exchange, though, so basically a move over to the B/C section might help it graduate, and would get better results out of the performer, most likely.

I've also been reading that some believe that the CW Network has been "iffy" about keepign SmackDown! around, and that this might be a power play by the WWE to get angle them better in the negotions, or something? I didn't really read the article all that intently, but I think that may have been the gist of it.

SmackDown! will unfortunately probably be fine, and still be the same (slightly) underwhelming product it's been for some time now.
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Triple H should take one for the team and move to SmackDown.

Especially if he's turning heel again. They've had their battles, including a WrestleMania, but we've never seen a full-on feud between Trips and The Undertaker. Triple H vs Batista was a hugely successful feud at the box office which may have more chapters left in it. Triple H vs Finlay has potential for a couple of hard fought brawls which could see classic "Triple H 2000" emerge. Triple H vs Rey Mysterio would be fresh if nothing else.

Trips is going to be around forever, he's the only guy on the roster who will never lose his spot (barring divorce), so he should suck it up and take the transfer, and open a world of new possibilities for himself and for WWE. Plus, if he's on SmackDown, I won't have to watch him.
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