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Old 04-01-2008, 12:36 AM   #1
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A number of people in WWE weren't pleased with how Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson came off this past Saturday night. He did not leave a positive impression on a number of wrestlers at the Hall of Fame banquet.

A number of sources report that Johnson did not hang out with old friends before and after his speech at the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. He showed up for the speech, delivered one that offended many in WWE and was believed to be too long, and then left.

Some of his former colleagues are saying that Johnson came across as "aloof" and "totally Hollywood," as if he were "above WWE now," not to mention everyone in WWE as well. One of those people include one-time friend Steve Austin, who was openly displeased and taken aback by Johnson's demeanor.

Here is one wrestler's comments regarding Johnson's Hall of Fame speech: "This wasn't a roast. This was supposed to be a tribute to his dad and grandfather. Instead, he did an hour plus of comedy, running way long, then did a short tribute to his dad and grandfather, then left. It was rude of him."

WWE had plans to control the length of the Hall of Fame speeches, but the induction ceremony ran way over the planned length in large part due to Johnson's drawn out speech. Flair's Hall of Fame speech ran long as well, but everyone was forgiving of that considering that it was his night.

After the event, pretty much everyone backstage shared in their resentment and disappointment on Johnson's conduct at the Hall of Fame. The belief backstage was that Johnson had no reason to treat old friends like discards from a past life.

Johnson's speech went on first because he had to catch a plane immediately to Las Vegas, where they are filming his latest movie, Space Mountain. After he left, two individuals took shots at him during their Hall of Fame speeches. When praising John Cena, Ric Flair made a point to say that Cena, "Will never leave our business for Hollywood." Triple H mentioned, "Rock fans," and then said, "Oops, am I supposed to say Dwayne fans now?"

I remember thinking this when watching it. To be honest, what an ass






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Old 04-01-2008, 12:37 AM   #2
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I knew there would be some sort of backlash from that speech.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:37 AM   #3
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Cena will never leave wrestling for Hollywood, because Hollywood doesn't want Cena.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:43 AM   #4
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Cena will never leave wrestling for Hollywood, because Hollywood doesn't want Cena.
My thoughts exactly.

Also, maybe he wasn't taking time for people because he was, you know, in a rush? This was jammed into his schedule last minute -- the movie shoot isn't written around his life. I didn't watch the ceremony because I don't really care about them, so I can't say for his demeanor, but coming up with a speech on the spot when you have a whole movie to memorize at the same time can't be incredibly easy.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:43 AM   #5
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I liked the speech, but I think it was kind of weird(looking for a better word) that he went and did his act on everyone.
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Triple H mentioned, "Rock fans," and then said, "Oops, am I supposed to say Dwayne fans now?"
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Also, maybe he wasn't taking time for people because he was, you know, in a rush? This was jammed into his schedule last minute -- the movie shoot isn't written around his life.
Doesn't seem to have stopped him from taking his sweet-ass fucking time about it.
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:29 AM   #8
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I truly hate hearing this. I had always hoped he would never become like that.
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:33 AM   #9
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:39 AM   #10
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Someone link me to a video of Rock'sDwayne's speech.
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:04 AM   #12
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lol, obviously they're all just jealous of his success or something. I saw a bit of his speech at the HOF though and did get the impression that he didn't really want to be there, or atleast that he felt he was above it all. But meh, i enjoyed what i saw though i didn't get to see his whole speech on tv as they must've edited bits out.

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I didn't see the speech, but I can understand why The Rock would do a speech like that. He is The fucking Rock. He wanted to entertain. He was inducting his father and grandfather for crying out loud, he loved them, and wanted them to go in. He wanted to be there to do it. He was just trying to give the fans a taste of The Rock, I believe.
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:25 AM   #15
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If anyone expected anything different, they're crazy. The headline was "The Rock to return." What the hell did they expect? "Hi. I'm Dwayne, and I want to honor my father and grandfather." No way! I can guarantee that the WWE wanted Rock to go semi-into-character to entertain the fans, because THEN people will tune in for the beginning of the show rather than just for Naitch. I guarantee that a lot of people tuned in just to see The Rock - and they were not disappointed with his speech - more like a promo, really. If they had such a problem with it, they wouldn't have aired it. If some of the current guys had a problem with it, shove it. Grow up. The Rock is a bigger star than 99% of the guys in that arena, and he hasn't wrestled in years! I, for one, thought his speech was hilarious, and it was great to see him knock on Foley, Coach, and Trips. And the line about The Marine was perfect - especially when followed by a burn of himself.

Bottom line, if some of the guys weren't happy, it is to be expected. Rock left when his star shone brightest. In his book, he says he would never "strike while the iron is hot" and get out of the business for a relatively safer, richer pursuit of acting. However, that is exactly what he did. It will mar his legacy in the WWE among those INSIDE THE BUSINESS, but the FANS will always love The People's Champ - simply the very best entertainer of the Attitude Era. Also, he will be a lot richer and his long-term health will be much better for leaving. For that, more power to him - he took a chance and made himself a bona fide star.

But if some in the 'E aren't happy, then shove it. You asked for The Rock. You got The Rock. Judging by the crowd, it went over well. Deal with it.
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Boo fucking whoo. The Rock was entertaining, and they need to deal with it. If 5 % of the current roster could work a mic like he could, they'd be lucky. And I'd sacrifice Cena to Hollywood in a second if it meant getting the Rock back.
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Wow, people in the WWE bitch about how Rock turned his back on wrestling, and doesn't care about the fans, and when he shows up and to induct his family, and gives the fans what they want, they bitch and call him disrespectful. Cena and HHH are both jealous they will never see the kind of money The Rock has.
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Wow, people in the WWE bitch about how Rock turned his back on wrestling, and doesn't care about the fans, and when he shows up and to induct his family, and gives the fans what they want, they bitch and call him disrespectful. Cena and HHH are both jealous they will never see the kind of money The Rock has.
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H has access to more money than The Rock does.
In a budget capacity for running a company, not millions of dollars per film though..

As for this whole thing, maybe it’s just the way it was edited, but I thought it was quite good, some of the digs were funny and he was taking pot shots at himself as well as the guys in the crowd.

‘The US army was involved in scandals by capturing Iraq militants and tourting them by making them watch The Marine’

‘Don’t worry, I made Doom!’

Saying that it’s not meant to be a roast isn’t strictly true as previous shows, depending on who was being inducted did come across as a roast, Heenan anyone?

Plus he seemed to show general emotion when talking about his Dad, this Granddad and also his love for the business, it’s the first time he’d been in front of a crowd with a mic for several years, what did they honestly think they were going to get?
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The only thing that bugged me was that stupid "Hollywood Smile" he kept on his face the entire speech. The Rock never smiled that much when he was cutting into people! Other than that, it was just a speech in-character for The Rock, which I imagine is what was expected of him.
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Wow, people in the WWE bitch about how Rock turned his back on wrestling, and doesn't care about the fans, and when he shows up and to induct his family, and gives the fans what they want, they bitch and call him disrespectful. Cena and HHH are both jealous they will never see the kind of money The Rock has.
I think it is pretty safe to say HHH has been living the life for awhile now.
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:30 AM   #27
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Why? Do you have a degenerative mental condition?
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I'd sacrifice Cena to Hollywood in a second if it meant getting the Rock back.
Damn, your one patient man.

No, for serious, I have lost even more respect for the man who was for many years my favorite wrestler.
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How has that made you lose respect for him?? These people are just jealous of his success in hollywood and that they can't ever do the same.
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The fact that he seems to have no time to spend with the people and company that gave him enough fame to make Hollywood look at him, and want him in thier movies.
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I liked the speech, it was entertaining. I can see WWE's point in that it wasn't really a speech I would have expected for the HoF. BUT its the speech I expected from a returning Rock. Its just a shame they had to coincide. If the schedule had allowed it then he could of done a more sombre speech at the HoF and done a "return" speech at either the previous Raw or WM24.

And to whoever it was ho mentioned Rock smiling too much. It came accross to me that he was genuinely having a good time and remembering what a live crowd was like.

As a fan I would havee been VERY disappointed if he had come out, done a sombre speech and left.

And whilst HHH does have access to more money, its not his, its Vince's, Stephanie's and partly his cash.

If Cena is pissed he should have just watched and learnt. 3 or 4 years Rock has been away and he hasn' missed a beat. Roll on the next appearence.

And despite the odds of Val Venis winning the WWE title being greater than this, I STILL hope to see Rock v Austin one last time.

The speech was great, funny, and I thought quite heartfelt. Thankyou Rock for the 10 minutes of laughter.
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The fact that he seems to have no time to spend with the people and company that gave him enough fame to make Hollywood look at him, and want him in thier movies.
That's what you gotta do sometimes to be successful, you got to make sacrifices and if anyone has a problem with that, well, as the rock would say, it doesn't matter if you have a problem with that.
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The fact that he seems to have no time to spend with the people and company that gave him enough fame to make Hollywood look at him, and want him in thier movies.
You mean the company that shilled him to Hollywood in the first place, because they were hoping having that celebrity crossover appeal? The company that discards wrestlers when they have no more use for them?

Damn him for not showing loyalty to such a company!
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The fact that he seems to have no time to spend with the people and company that gave him enough fame to make Hollywood look at him, and want him in thier movies.
He's in the process of filming a movie. They should be thankful he flew out to do it. No one seems to be considering that maybe he had prior obligations that he had to meet. You know, other people who were relying on him to do something too?

No one wants to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he really did have to go. I doubt he was thinking "fuck them, I don't want to be around them."
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That's what you gotta do sometimes to be successful, you got to make sacrifices and if anyone has a problem with that, well, as the rock would say, it doesn't matter if you have a problem with that.
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You mean the company that shilled him to Hollywood in the first place, because they were hoping having that celebrity crossover appeal? The company that discards wrestlers when they have no more use for them?

Damn him for not showing loyalty to such a company!
TL - Forgetting where you came from, and who and what made you who you are will likely always make you seem like an asshole

KK - The above in response to you also.

And if they did not have any use for him, how is it that whenever he returns for a little while, he is never put into a forgettable match/storyline.

And even still, if the company discarded him, and he was pissed at them. (which I doubt is the case, as he still makes occasional appearances with them) what was stopping him from spending some time with the friends that he made in the business? Of course, only Dwayne can answer this correctly, but please give me your opinion, because honestly I cant see a good reason why he would snub all the people he worked with for years.
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What makes you think he's forgotten? do you personally know him or something?
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What makes you think he's forgotten? do you personally know him or something?
No, I dont. Thats kinda obvious.

Just in my view, I lost respect for someone who could not find maybe 30 mins in his day to spend some time chatting with people he spent years with.
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Well maybe he really didn't have anytime to spare.
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So basically, FA, you're pulling your argument out of your ass due to some sense of entitlement. Gotcha.
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So basically, FA, you're pulling your argument out of your ass due to some sense of entitlement. Gotcha.
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Well maybe he really didn't have anytime to spare.
Yeah, I have to say I am pulling an argument out of my ass, as I cant say either way whether I am wrong or right in my assumptions.

But might I ask you something KK?

If you went to a family reunion dinner (provided you get along with your family, I know some don't) and ate, got up and left without saying anything to anyone you have not seen in years, how would your family take it, how in your opinion would others see it?

TL - That could be the case, and if it is, I would feel kinda bad for dissing him like I am, then again, he could have found the time if his speech was not so long.
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