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Old 05-14-2008, 09:34 PM   #1
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HBK idea
Alright, this is not the first time I've suggested an idea like this, but it seems to fit the current WWE climate.

Lance Cade has just turned on his tag team partner, and seems to have a new attitude. I can see this push actually leading to an Intercontinental Title run, or something. Jim Ross doesn't have any backstage power these days, but he seems really high on Cade, and there is nothing offensive about the guy. The WWE tends to move past mid-card act hard-ons really quickly, though. Cade might need a little something extra to keep him in focus.

Paul London & Brian Kendrick seem to have a new attitude each. Kendrick is a lot more hard-edged than he used to be, and is taking things a lot more seriously. Seems to fit in with Lance Cade's new "I'm taking the spotlight" character. Paul London has also added subtle changes, and it seems he is acting more insane than he normally would. He almost seems like a hyena out of The Lion King when he runs to the ring nowadays.

There is also the angle between Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho, and while the WWE is probably very hesitant to turn HBK heel, and seeing as they have been hinting at the Jericho turn, this is very unlikely, but the WWE has been more unpredictable lately (for better or for worse; I say better). What if HBK was faking the injury (he did swap the legs he was selling, I believe), and he turns heel on Jericho? I think most of us agree a heel HBK would be multiple shades of awesome, and Jericho and HBK feuding could never be a bad thing.

With the darker edges that seem to be seeping into the characters of Lance Cade & Brian Kendrick, would you mind seeing them join Shawn Michaels, as sort of a heel stable on RAW? They were both trained by Michaels, and associating them on-screen with him would no doubt get them over. You can just make it that group of three, or you can add Paul London as the heel tag team partner of Brian Kendrick (which has a unit going after the WWE Title, the IC Title and the World Tag Team Titles). HBK can help Cade defeat Y2J for the IC Title, and it moves the belt onto an actual mid-carder who can benefit by holding it. Jericho would no doubt find assistance in Trevor Murdoch, and there might be someone else who could use the rub by teaming with Jericho against Team Heartbreaker. Maybe DH Smith, nursing wounds from the past? There is also Paul London if you choose to turn Kendrick and not London, or there is the possibility of calling up TJ Wilson to team with Smith against London & Kendrick.

I don't know, I'm just throwing the idea out there. But would you like to see a Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho feud expanded, with a heel HBK-based stable thrown into the mix?

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Old 05-14-2008, 10:00 PM   #2
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:28 PM   #3
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I like it. I don't know if HBK is "comfortable" with being a heel, he can still be a heel without going against his beliefs just look at his little fued with hogan, that was really great stuff. What he did to Y2J last week seemed like a heel turn to me, but the crowd ate it up. I would love to see him do some old school heel hbk heel stuff, such as leave the ring with the belt and get counted out on purpose. I don't like hbk holding the ic strap but i would be alright with almost anything if it means Shawn is a heel again.
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:56 PM   #4
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whenever I hear about someone heeling it up I always imagine Wolverine after a massive battle with Sabertooth.

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and my kidney's falling out
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Lance Cade is not relevant to my interests. There would have to be something major to make him look both credible and interesting.

Other than that it's golden.
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Lance Cade is not relevant to my interests. There would have to be something major to make him look both credible and interesting.
I disagree. The reason he seems interesting, to me, is that he hasn't been given much of a shot in the years he's been there. I totally wanted him off my tv when it was "Garrison Cade", and I loathed him with Jindrak. But now, he seems a completely different guy, and I very much want to see what he can become. Surely, he'll have his first real finisher now, plus better music and hopefully better attire. The presentation of the performer is very important -- at least in the shobiz aspect.

Maybe I'm alone, but I think it'll be something to watch. We haven't had a "real team" split up like this in a while.
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Thing is, I doubt Cade will be anything without Murdoch.
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Cade has all the tools but one: A personality.

I don't think he can get anywhere without it.

Bret Hart needed Neidhart because of his personality for years. When Bret figured out how to get over with just his wrestling ability, he was the best there is, etc etc.

Chris Benoit (whoever that is) was over because he was considered the best wrestler in the world. It took years, however, for him to get to the top, and that was a short lived feat.

Lance Cade is no Bret Hart. Nor is he that other guy I made up.
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:08 AM   #17
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But I don't know Cade has no personality because he's been locked in a tag team for his WWE duration. And for most of that, WWE didn't really focus on team members. The only tag teams that tend to have personalities are "teams" like Carlito/Santino, or Dupree/Suzuki. Guys that are already established characters. The most establishment Cade's had is wearing a a cowboy hat and a Zap Brannigan robe.
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He had the singles run/abomination when he was managed by Coach and he looked like he raided Ric Flair's closet.

Also, during the debut vignettes for Cade/Murdoch. Cade did most of the talking, but Murdoch was the one who got my attention with his Deliverance routine. My reaction to Cade and Murdoch was "A Goof in a cowboy hat and a guy who scares me." Here's a hint: Cade wasn't the guy who scared me.

Just because he was "locked in a tag team" doesn't mean he has no opportunity to show personality. You can say the same for Cryme Tyme, but they definitely show personality. Cade is a good worker, no doubt about it. But you have to be able to grab the attention of the fans before that means anything. Otherwise, Dean Malenko and Brad Armstrong would have held lengthy title reigns.
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It's really quite pathetic that you consider 504 words without any large research a "thesis." I suppose it's a little sad I would write 504 words and present it to a group that considers that a thesis, but what's sadder is wasting 10 words on not saying anything at all.

Thanks to those of you who are actually discussing the parties that are actually on topic. On the Lance Cade personality issue:

I personally think he has an air of charisma about him. He hasn't worked the mic much, but every time I've heard him, he's sounded confident, clear and somewhat affluent. This split from Murdoch is hopefully going to lead to him developing a certifiable character, and fine-tuning his image a little bit.

As for a finishing move, Cade has a very sweet Flying Elbow. He also apparently does a really nice version of the Sweet Chin Music, but I doubt they will have him do that. My vote goes to the Flying Elbow, with the sit-down spinebuster to set it up.
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Ridiculous.

Back to the topic, I sort of wish Tomko were in the WWE, as I feel he would make a great new bodyguard character for Shawn Michaels.
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It wasn't so much a lie as a shot which exaggerated your propensity. But I wouldn't expect you to pick up on that or be honest.

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A Month ago, it would have got to him, but now, he's just content to making things up....
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I guess not liking Noid's recycled ideas or poking fun at him for his first post that was shorter than War and Peace means you're blowing me, by the way.

In which case, like 80% of the board must be blowing me. Cool.

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I hate meth. Seriously don't get the point. I mean first why not just do coke? I don't like coke either but have you seen what people look like when they get all on meth? eww. Come on stick with pot and hallucinigins people. These other drugs are just eh. Go the pain killers or whatever if you have to.
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well i dunno it's just like.. eh... not the kinda whacked I wanna be.
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I can buy enough jack with 20 bucks to keep me whacked for the day. Or pot for that matter.. and def. acid.
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Probably why Destor got paid in it. He's not worth a REAL drug.
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I can buy enough jack with 20 bucks to keep me whacked for the day. Or pot for that matter.. and def. acid.
Yes, but can you rapidly lose weight while your teeth fall out? Didn't think so.
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