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Old 05-21-2008, 09:02 PM   #1
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So, what IS The Undertaker, exactly?
Taking his entire WWF run into account, he started out as essentially an Undertaker, but eventually turned "undead". He's "died" at least four times, the third of which he returned as a living Biker. His fourth death put him back in undead/zombie status, except he inherited the traits of the American Bad Ass (and found a hat).

What exactly is he? What can die multiple times, come back to life, then die again?
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:05 PM   #2
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Suspension of disbelief is the name of the game. Just enjoy the character or GTFO.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:07 PM   #3
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Suspension of belief != looking for an explanation.

Believe me, if that were true I'd be asking what the fuck's up with Snitsky's undefeated transition.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:22 PM   #4
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So posing the question "So, what IS The Undertaker exactly?" isn't looking for an explanation?
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:25 PM   #5
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The Undertaker has died 4 times in his feud with Randy Orton alone. lol

What IS The Undertaker? The Undertaker is an undead monster who sometime struggles with human interests. All those years of being silent and building caskets finally caused him to crack, and become a leader of a Satanist cult. After taking some time off to rethink his personal choices, he decided to start collecting motorcycles and joyriding to help eliminate his satanist tendencies. He also got married.

Like many other monsters (take Shrek for example), The Undertaker realized that he is who he is. He's an undead monster, so he started wearing all black and dying again.

Understand?
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:25 PM   #6
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Yeah, it is, but it doesn't mean I'm not suspending my disbelief.
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If you were truly suspending it, YOU WOULDN'T CARE.
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If I "truly" suspended disbelief, by your definition, I'd still enjoy the product.

But I don't, because I only partially suspend it to a sane level.
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He was a zombie, obviously not a Romero zombie but a zombie none the less. I'm thinking like Solomon Grundy. Every time he died and came back he gained more control and intelligence. He's gone from needing a leader to being independent enough to wrestle alone to having emotions to being intelligent enough to thinking himself a prophet but still be fooled by Vince until the point where he was able to live like a normal human and marry and assume hobbies like riding motorcycles and training in mixed martial arts. After Kane threw a piss party and went crazy about how human he was, he himself realized that he was far more powerful if he could inspire fear in his opponents and now portrays his scary zombie-super powers but keeps his personal life to himself.

If you look at it, the more he dies the more successful he becomes.
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Have fun picking that idea apart.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:50 PM   #13
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What about when Michael Cole started explaining his behaviour as an altered state of mind and that he just conditioned himself to not feel pain? That lasted for a month or so sometime after he last came back as the Deadman I believe.
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He was a zombie, obviously not a Romero zombie but a zombie none the less. I'm thinking like Solomon Grundy. Every time he died and came back he gained more control and intelligence. He's gone from needing a leader to being independent enough to wrestle alone to having emotions to being intelligent enough to thinking himself a prophet but still be fooled by Vince until the point where he was able to live like a normal human and marry and assume hobbies like riding motorcycles and training in mixed martial arts. After Kane threw a piss party and went crazy about how human he was, he himself realized that he was far more powerful if he could inspire fear in his opponents and now portrays his scary zombie-super powers but keeps his personal life to himself.

If you look at it, the more he dies the more successful he becomes.
Amazing Char dev. if only that was really what WWE had in mind.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:54 AM   #15
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He explained it the first time he died (against Yoko) "The spirit of the Undertaker lives within the soul of all mankind..." So he is some kind of incarnation of our thoughts and demons in wrestling form. Now with a hat again.
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SO he is our collective Tyler Durden?

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SO he is our collective Tyler Durden?

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SO he is our collective Tyler Durden?

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Such a mind fuck that you had to double post?
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Honestly, they should have went a different route when Kane "killed" him last time.

Instead of comign back as undead, he should have just been the same thing, btu was just a dark and jaded version of Biker taker.

I would rather him be a goth than a zombie.
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I didnt double post, I posted once, Taker Durden was the other
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Honestly, they should have went a different route when Kane "killed" him last time.

Instead of comign back as undead, he should have just been the same thing, btu was just a dark and jaded version of Biker taker.

I would rather him be a goth than a zombie.
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He's just acting like a stereotype zombie, wrestling fans are idiots and will believe anything. Taker knows this.

Also, Goth Taker would be gay.
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As opposed to a wrestler who used to wear purple gloves.
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The Undertaker exactly is a machination of a creative team trying to keep the same person entertaining for something like eighteen years. Fair shout to that.
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Yeah, and Freddie Mercury was knee deep in pussy every night for a decade. Doesn't make him any less a fag.
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Yeah, and Freddie Mercury was knee deep in pussy every night for a decade. Doesn't make him any less a fag.
We had this argument months ago. Freddie Mercury was more man than the rest of the men on Earth put together, and the one world government elitists killed him for it and then told everyone he was gay.
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:35 PM   #32
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Freddie Mercury was the straightest man in the world. So straight that he turned Chuck Norris gay.
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:47 PM   #33
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When someone asks you if you're a god, you say... YES!
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:27 PM   #35
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That's the origin of Khali, by the way.
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Taking his entire WWF run into account, he started out as essentially an Undertaker, but eventually turned "undead". He's "died" at least four times, the third of which he returned as a living Biker. His fourth death put him back in undead/zombie status, except he inherited the traits of the American Bad Ass (and found a hat).

What exactly is he? What can die multiple times, come back to life, then die again?
Orton actually killed him twice.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:36 PM   #37
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How would you feel if they tried to pull a heel turn for Taker where somebody comes out and says he isn't the real one, but that Dibiase actually DID have the real one all along so the guy we've been supporting for the last decade has been the impostor while the real Undertaker RIPed at Summerslam '94, maybe trying to make a comeback through ECW as "The Zombie."
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All but the last part might be interesting.
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No no, none of it would be interesting.
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What about when Michael Cole started explaining his behaviour as an altered state of mind and that he just conditioned himself to not feel pain? That lasted for a month or so sometime after he last came back as the Deadman I believe.
LoL, I remember that. On Smackdown, Michael Cole asked "Some people want to know, is the Undertaker REALLY dead?" Tazz then gave the condition answer.

Then, at Judgment Day when Taker fought Booker T, Tazz asked "Some people want to know, is the Undertaker Really dead?" Michael Cole then gave a word for word explanation that Tazz just told him.
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