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Old 07-15-2008, 03:41 AM   #1
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Move away Rey Mysterio Jr., CM Punk is next to be the worst Champion ever....
Aside from being booked as the next 1 2 3 Kid who got lucky, and is barely managing to pass through the obstacles he faces as champion every week...I read this on Rajah.com...

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In the dark match after RAW this week, Batista squashed CM Punk with a spinebuster for the 3-count in approximately one minute. A correspondent who Emailed me from the event noted that Kane got a better pop than Punk did before their match during RAW and fans were behind Batista during the dark match main event.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:35 AM   #2
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I take this the same way, as I read a Kane Knight Post.

I just roll my eyes, and find something else to click.

Honestly, I think it's a fake.
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:10 AM   #3
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Yeah, doubt it happened like that. Although, it wouldn't surprise me if everything was a conspiracy to completely ruin CM Punk and sink the RAW brand.
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:13 AM   #4
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It made me laugh seeing him get killed by Batista and Kane. Reminded me of Jamie Noble except Noble is more entertaining.

I heard of the hearts of millions of internet wrestling geeks break during Raw.
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CM Punk really looks out of place as champ on raw, would be better off on smackdown if HHH wasn't there.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:00 AM   #6
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I say it's time to drop the belt.
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IT WAS A DARK MATCH

Do you know how many World Champs get squashed by Cena and Batista after Raw/Smackdown has gone of the air each week?

Nothing new, get over it.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:52 AM   #8
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Oh and at least Punk has won television matches since winning the title, unlike Mysterio who lost like every match he was in.
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:02 AM   #9
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LOL.

I was going to make a tongue in cheek post asking how bad Punk was being buried, but it looks like smark fanaticism has made it less a joke and more a "real" issue.
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Yeah tongue in cheek from me up there.
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:29 AM   #11
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Oh and at least Punk has won television matches since winning the title, unlike Mysterio who lost like every match he was in.
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:35 AM   #12
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Yes Punk won the match in a bitch sorta way.
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:46 AM   #13
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Part of CM Punk's problem is the GTS. When you are world champion in WWE, you aren't facing guys that are 6' nothing 230 lbs, instead you are facing guys who are at least 6'4" and 260 lbs. But more like 6'8" 300+ guy will be coming at you as well. And with CM Punk being so small, the GTS isn't going to be believeable on a guy like Kane. Now look at Shawn Micheals, sweet chin music can be done on anyone, anytime, anywhere. GTS can't be. Punk should have thought about that.
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Yeah tongue in cheek from me up there.
To be honest, I didn't notice you responded. I only look for BDC and Noid posts. Ironically, for the same reason....
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:08 AM   #15
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And before any morons BAWWWW about that last post, it was a joke. It shouldn't need to be said, but just because you don't find it funny doesn't mean it was intended as a serious testimonial.
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Punk loses the belt at GAB, and goes on to feud with Kane until Summerslam.

Bet on it.
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And before any morons BAWWWW about that last post, it was a joke. It shouldn't need to be said, but just because you don't find it funny doesn't mean it was intended as a serious testimonial.
I'm offended by your post.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:25 AM   #19
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Part of CM Punk's problem is the GTS. When you are world champion in WWE, you aren't facing guys that are 6' nothing 230 lbs, instead you are facing guys who are at least 6'4" and 260 lbs. But more like 6'8" 300+ guy will be coming at you as well. And with CM Punk being so small, the GTS isn't going to be believeable on a guy like Kane. Now look at Shawn Micheals, sweet chin music can be done on anyone, anytime, anywhere. GTS can't be. Punk should have thought about that.
Amazingly we agree on something.
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I'm glad TL can be reasoned with. Also, as much as I hate the codebreaker because it looks retarded, it is a better choice for someone Jericho/CM Punk/Shawn Michael's size than the GTS.
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Yeah i'm not the biggest fan of the codebreaker but its good enough. Probably not really a finishing move for a heel though.
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Now, Punk has that submission hold, he needs to start breaking that out, it could be used well agings the asthmatic Batista.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:43 AM   #23
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I don't think Punk would have a problem using the GTS. If he can get Snitsky and JBL up and over for it, he can do just about anybody with obvious exceptions (Henry, Khali, BDV etc) which, should he ever feud with those guys, could add something in a 'how is he gonna win?' kind of way. How willing somebody like Bats is to take the GTS after breaking Snitsky's face is another story though

Should def. bust out the Anaconda Vice now and again though ala Rock/Sharpshooter, Cena/STFU etc
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He did break Snitsky's nose, which isn't exactly what I would consider "up and over for it."
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He did break Snitsky's nose, which isn't exactly what I would consider "up and over for it."
So he didn't push him off his shoulders, up and over his head and complete the move?
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Punk needs to use the Devil Lock DDT.
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I'm willing to bet that CM Punk can't do the GTS safely with a guy the size of Snitsky.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:55 AM   #29
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So he didn't push him off his shoulders, up and over his head and complete the move?
Part of the art of being a pro wrestler is making things look good while NOT hurting your opponent. So, while he did complete the move, he also botched it, and you have to know that it's because Snitsky is so heavy that he didn't have full control of his knee. And this is a problem.
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Part of the art of being a pro wrestler is making things look good while NOT hurting your opponent.
No shit. Unless you're an indy darling then you can hurt who you want because 'this is awesome'

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So, while he did complete the move, he also botched it, and you have to know that it's because Snitsky is so heavy that he didn't have full control of his knee. And this is a problem.
Well then I think he should go for a 'Best of 3' series. He's done it safely on JBL and fucked up Snitsky. 1-1. Try it on Bats. If he does it safely, Punk keeps GTS as his finish. If he fucks up Bats, Dave can't attempt to express any 'emotions' through his face and RAW becomes more believeable. Win-win
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GTS sucks anyway.
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Actually Snitsky didn't take the move properly, he pretty much dead weighted himself which caused Punk to pick him up. And to top it all off Snitsky didn't even protect his face when he was going down.

It wasn't Punk's fault. Blame it on Snitsky being a damn slug.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:39 AM   #33
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I was thinking that this morning (the whole Punk/Rey comparison). If they're gonna let him retain at GAB then Punk desperately needs to win clean. And not some "surprise roll up" etc... Either make Bastista tap or get him with the GTS fair-and-square.

Otherwise, say hello to Rey Mysterio no. 2.
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Actually Snitsky didn't take the move properly, he pretty much dead weighted himself which caused Punk to pick him up. And to top it all off Snitsky didn't even protect his face when he was going down.

It wasn't Punk's fault. Blame it on Snitsky being a damn slug.
Um, it was Snitsky's fault, he has a song and everything to prove it...or does that only apply to Kane's unborn dead baby?
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Actually Snitsky didn't take the move properly, he pretty much dead weighted himself which caused Punk to pick him up. And to top it all off Snitsky didn't even protect his face when he was going down.

It wasn't Punk's fault. Blame it on Snitsky being a damn slug.
Are you saying it was Snitsky's fault...?
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Punk was stupid to do a move like that on such a big guy, its unsafe, and Snitsky is an idiot for not taking it right.

They are both to blame.

Just be glad its a jobber. If he fucks up Bats his career is over.

Also, you realize that with Punk getting bitched, there is no way he DOESNT win this weekend. WWE logic.

He is an underdog, so he will get beat down, but since he isnt on top going in, he will win.
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To be Rey Rey No. 2, Punk has to job cleanly for weeks at a time as champion, then pull out fluke wins
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Punk was stupid to do a move like that on such a big guy, its unsafe, and Snitsky is an idiot for not taking it right.

They are both to blame.

Just be glad its a jobber. If he fucks up Bats his career is over.

Also, you realize that with Punk getting bitched, there is no way he DOESNT win this weekend. WWE logic.

He is an underdog, so he will get beat down, but since he isnt on top going in, he will win.
What? What are you saying? Why do you think CM Punk sucks? I don't understand!
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If Snitsky did dead weight Punk, it's his own damn fault. When Holly did it to Brock, and got fucked up, no one bitched about it being Brock's fault. Wrestler's are suppose to help each other, period.

GTS is a pretty effective finisher, assuming the person sells it right too. Outside of maybe 5% of the roster, I'm sure Punk can hit most people with it. The exceptions being people like Henry, Big Show, Khali, Umaga,, maybe Batista/Kane, etc. WWE doesn't have tons of people over 300 lbs.

Punk needs to come up with a good variation of it too, that way they can build up the knee to the face more than the firemen's carry part.
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Also, KENTA's Go 2 SLEEP > Punk's Anaconda Vice > Punk's GTS > Pepsi Plunge.

Got the Pepsi Plunge is an awful finisher.

I'm also surprised no one has busted out KENTA's busaiku knee, or Nakajima/Roderick Strong's Sick Kick. Both would be could finishers for someone.
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