Favorite PC games that you have played.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 05:14 PM

I have played and immensely enjoyed the following, please suggest more:

Fallout 1 and 2
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
All those Sierra adventure games
most of those Lucas arts adventure games
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (however you spell it) (wanna play civ 4)
American Mcgee's Alice
Warcraft 3 (should i get the frozen throne expansion?)
Age of Mythology (but only for a bit should i get this again?)
Age of empires 3 or 4 whichever was latest but I've played them all (should i redownload these also?)
black and white (should i get 2?)
Grim fandango (which is a lucast arts adventure game but i wanted to give it it's own shout out)
siberia

I think that's about all, list some more I must play, any kind of PC game but you can kinda see what I like, but I'm willing to try anything, I just have to make room on my computer

**Kane Knight** · 08-09-2008, 05:35 PM

Hard Drive's still in the shop?

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 06:13 PM

the 500gb one still has yet to be fixed i had to mail it to the actual company now.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 06:30 PM

also played neverwinter nights
should i get diablo and diablo 2?

Also should I get warhammer 40,000 and civilization 4?

and i hear sacrifice is amazing.

tell me some more games I must get.

**CSL** · 08-09-2008, 06:55 PM

Football Manager 2005/6/7/8

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 07:19 PM

i will check it out

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 07:20 PM

are you talking about worldwide soccer manager or football manager as in american football?

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 07:20 PM

i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Manager_2008

**Sebastian** · 08-09-2008, 07:25 PM

Diablo II is way better then I.

The two are very similar, but Diablo II has way more variety, it kicked ass back when I played it.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 08:08 PM

noted

**CSL** · 08-09-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox

are you talking about worldwide soccer manager or football manager as in american football?

Yeah, it's branded 'Worldwide Soccer Manager' in the states, completely forgot to mention that

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 08:39 PM

ok more people need to do this

**LoDownM** · 08-09-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox

Warcraft 3 (should i get the frozen throne expansion?)

What kind of dumbass question is that? If you liked the original and put it in your "Best PC games ever" list, of course you should get the fucking expansion

**LoDownM** · 08-09-2008, 09:05 PM

Yes btw. Since you play/played WoW, it will explain alot of the lollore stuff.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 09:09 PM

That's not really a best ever list btw. I am asking for you guys best ever lists, I just put some games i immensley enjoyed and pretty much every game I remember playing.

It's rather a decieving title

**Kane Knight** · 08-09-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LoDownM

What kind of dumbass question is that? If you liked the original and put it in your "Best PC games ever" list, of course you should get the fucking expansion

Considering it was just a PC Magazine checklist...

**Requiem** · 08-09-2008, 11:52 PM

In only somewhat particular order.

Asheron's Call 1 (MMO)
EVE Online (MMO)
Crysis
Age of Empires 1 + Rise of Rome expansion
Rainbow Six 1 w/NATO mod - had some great fun with this even on 56k back in the day

Dunno.. those are just off the top of my head.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 11:54 PM

ok so planescape, dawn of war, thief 2
or rome total war

which of these should I get first?

also yeah kk i pretty much just looked at PC gamer, I mean I'm new to it and I just searched and they had a pretty comrehensive list, but I have stuff that's on that list like Deus ex which I had played before and when they put it at number 1 I trusted them I mean they also had half life 2 on there and I thought it was great but not really my style of game. So yes I did look on there, but I mean it was the best source I found, so if you are trying to insult me, mission failed, abort! ABORT!

Like your mom should have done

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-09-2008, 11:55 PM

no way crysis will run on this computer.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-10-2008, 12:02 AM

also can someone tell me what's so amazing about eve online? I've heard it's different than most mmorpgs but i can't really imagine flying around in space forever being all that much fun I like to have charecter interaction and story. Please correct me on this

I'm not much for mmorpgs yet because I'm not much for PvP

I would love to play them but I think when they come up with games where the mission's are as inticate as say oblivion, and each person really influences things and you have to take care of your charecter like in the isms (of course toned down) but you have to actually walk to your job when you want to get paid, or do some sort of really deep mission, that can either be a single player or a multi player mission.

another problem is leveling I don't want to devote my time to leveling up so much that I can't just pick up and feel like I'm affectin ghte game world, MMORPGs are amazing if you plan on investing time to them.

One day when they reach a different pinnacle like a MMORPGFPS or something I'll jump on that bandwagon

**Requiem** · 08-10-2008, 12:05 AM

If you don't like PvP you will get bored of it to be completely honest. You don't have to level up, because skill gain is done in real time using a weird system. But the game itself is crazy in depth, and extremely fulfilling when you actually get something done.

But if you don't like PvP, you will not like it. It is primarily PvP in practically everything.. whether playing the economy, or actually fighting other players, or even just trying to mine to do crafting.. always have to be on the watch for other players, if you want to go where the real money is in the game. I mean.. you could essentially stay in PvE space at all times, but there is still a chance that someone will suicide kill you to try taking what you have.. and you would miss out on the main focus of the game.

I wrote some big long post like a year ago or something you could probably find by searching the forum..

**Requiem** · 08-10-2008, 12:05 AM

And they already have MMOFPS's, but they are all pretty shitty so far.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-10-2008, 12:31 AM

well it's not that I am anti PVP but I just feel that I would rather work toward a common goal at most times and do intricate puzzles or whatever ie adventure games, I mean fighting is fun and what not, and if the system was done right it could be awesome, but I don't enjoy the repetitiveness of it in games like WOW

City of Heroes has however peaked my interest with the full customability of charecters.

Another issue is the subscription shit, but that can be easily avoided with private servers even though that's illegal nad you can lose your charecter in a second. Anarchy online was interesting as well. but again it's the repetiveness that kills me.

It's ironic though that I enjoy games like Harvest Moon which are essentially repetitive tasks, but they change monthly ie crops etc and there is an ongoing story that keeps me going.

In MMORPGS there is an overall story but I would want to feel like I am a main influence in the gaming world, even if I wasn't. that's what I like about games the escapism, you get to be someone who is changing the world around you, and you are the primary focus. IRL I'll probably never save the world let alone anyone's life except my future kids maybe in a roundabout way or something.

In MMORPGs I don't really feel like I'm anyone important or moreso than anyone else, and in order to be I'd have to spend a long time gaining levels which just isn't fun to me, if it were fun then hell I'd do it. But again the repitition (kinda metawriting right now by saying this over and over)

**Requiem** · 08-10-2008, 01:26 AM

EVE is by far the second best MMO I've played, only because the best was my first and no memories will ever compare to that game's.

But as far as working towards a common goal, that is primarily what EVE is about. Joining huge alliances made up of multiple corporations (guilds), all working to capture territory and maintain an income to supply their warfare. Pretty much the simplest way to describe it. It is a lot deeper than that, but that's what it is about in the 'big picture'.

It's a single server game, that has topped out somewhere at like 47k people online at the same time. There is really no point to playing on private servers because the appeal of the game -is- its single server environment. This allows literally hundreds of -huge- corporations to exist, some with a thousand plus members in them. It is also a sci-fi game obviously, and combat is restricted to ship-based combat. People think it is simple on the surface, but once you get past that and into the numbers and all, it is really complex. The game actually takes knowledge and skill to be good at, and it has one of the highest learning curves of any MMO I've ever played. But it is also the most rewarding because there are actually penalties associated with death.. etc.. so when you succeed in something, you really feel like you worked at it.. unlike WoW where if you die, who gives a shit you just respawn with some armor damage which can be repaired for cheap.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-10-2008, 01:36 AM

I've heard about assassinations though and like crazy buisness practices, it really did intrigue me once I read that.

**Requiem** · 08-10-2008, 01:56 AM

http://eve.klaki.net/heist/

One of the most expensive in-game heists in any MMO, done in a way that was completely allowed due to them using the game's mechanics. The only one that I can think of worth more money was the Intergalactic Bank Heist, which the guy got away with over $170,000(USD) worth of in-game cash. But not done in nearly as cool a manner as the above link. For serious though. Amazing game.. real world style economy, harsh PvP, territorial conquest.. basically choose your own gaming style. Not to mention, rather spectacular graphics considering it's based in space and there normally wouldn't be much there.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-10-2008, 02:09 AM

man he got over 170 mil and still had to pay 16 bucks a month. loser.

I might give it a try if they have a free demo thing, but the thing with that would be even if you do a free trial month you can't really get into the game deep in only a month. Another problem with most mmorpgs.

Def. gonna try city of heroes eventually

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-10-2008, 02:14 AM

so it isn't just ships running around you actually have a person as well?

**Requiem** · 08-10-2008, 02:45 AM

Actually, you can purchase game time cards using in-game money from other players. Prices vary based on supply and demand. And yeah, they have a 14 day trial that doesn't require a CC that you can do as many times as you want. I did the trial about 5 or 6 times before actually subscribing, because you seriously will not know what you're doing for a while.

And nah.. just ships, until some time this year when they add the ambulation expansion (which will be free like all their other expansions) and it will add walking in stations, and a number of other ways to make money that way.

**El Fangel** · 08-10-2008, 02:46 AM

Stop trying to get people to play EVE you fucking sell-out

**El Fangel** · 08-10-2008, 02:48 AM

Fav Games, in no order.

Age Of Empires
Doom
Doom 2
Final Doom
Ultimate Doom
Doom 3
Quake
Quake 2
Diablo
Diablo 2
Deux EX
Unreal Tournament
Serious Sam
Serious Sam: Second Encounter
Warcraft
Warcraft II: Battlenet Edition
Starcraft

**LoDownM** · 08-10-2008, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel

Stop trying to get people to play EVE you fucking sell-out

lol wut?

**LoDownM** · 08-10-2008, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel

Fav Games, in no order.

Age Of Empires
Doom
Doom 2
Final Doom
Ultimate Doom
Doom 3
Quake
Quake 2
Diablo
Diablo 2
Deux EX
Unreal Tournament
Serious Sam
Serious Sam: Second Encounter
Warcraft
Warcraft II: Battlenet Edition
Starcraft

Duke Nukem 3D > All these games fyi. Except maybe Warcraft 2.

**LoDownM** · 08-10-2008, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox

That's not really a best ever list btw. I am asking for you guys best ever lists, I just put some games i immensley enjoyed and pretty much every game I remember playing.

It's rather a decieving title

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight

Considering it was just a PC Magazine checklist...

I don't know why I'm going to bother...but...he did say this is his first post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox

I have played and immensely enjoyed the following

So, whatever.

**El Fangel** · 08-10-2008, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoDownM

lol wut?

Req went on and on about how WoW sucks, and EVE is so much better, I made an account, didnt have time to play, and Req sold out and started playing WoW

**LoDownM** · 08-10-2008, 03:27 AM

I see.

**Requiem** · 08-10-2008, 03:35 AM

For free. And for like a week. I would like to note that I have not played WoW except for that one week.

**El Fangel** · 08-10-2008, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

For free. And for like a week. I would like to note that I have not played WoW except for that one week.

Your face would make a great goaltender with all the saving its doing.

**LoDownM** · 08-10-2008, 03:42 AM

Get a room.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-10-2008, 04:38 AM

I have played them all, but I got the tip for some off that pc gamer list.

08-09-2008, 06:30 PM	#4
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	also played neverwinter nights should i get diablo and diablo 2? Also should I get warhammer 40,000 and civilization 4? and i hear sacrifice is amazing. tell me some more games I must get. Last edited by Indifferent Clox; 08-09-2008 at 06:41 PM.

08-09-2008, 05:35 PM	#2
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Hard Drive's still in the shop?

08-09-2008, 06:13 PM	#3
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	the 500gb one still has yet to be fixed i had to mail it to the actual company now.

08-09-2008, 06:55 PM	#5
CSL Over Like Rover Posts: 38,444	Football Manager 2005/6/7/8

08-09-2008, 07:19 PM	#6
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	i will check it out

08-09-2008, 07:20 PM	#7
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	are you talking about worldwide soccer manager or football manager as in american football?

08-09-2008, 07:25 PM	#9
Sebastian Junior Member Posts: 80	Diablo II is way better then I. The two are very similar, but Diablo II has way more variety, it kicked ass back when I played it.

08-09-2008, 08:08 PM	#10
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	noted

08-09-2008, 08:39 PM	#12
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	ok more people need to do this

08-09-2008, 09:05 PM	#14
LoDownM Retired Prolly. Posts: 11,296	Yes btw. Since you play/played WoW, it will explain alot of the lollore stuff.

08-09-2008, 09:09 PM	#15
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	That's not really a best ever list btw. I am asking for you guys best ever lists, I just put some games i immensley enjoyed and pretty much every game I remember playing. It's rather a decieving title

08-09-2008, 11:52 PM	#17
Requiem Posts: 19,301	In only somewhat particular order. Asheron's Call 1 (MMO) EVE Online (MMO) Crysis Age of Empires 1 + Rise of Rome expansion Rainbow Six 1 w/NATO mod - had some great fun with this even on 56k back in the day Dunno.. those are just off the top of my head.

08-09-2008, 11:54 PM	#18
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	ok so planescape, dawn of war, thief 2 or rome total war which of these should I get first? also yeah kk i pretty much just looked at PC gamer, I mean I'm new to it and I just searched and they had a pretty comrehensive list, but I have stuff that's on that list like Deus ex which I had played before and when they put it at number 1 I trusted them I mean they also had half life 2 on there and I thought it was great but not really my style of game. So yes I did look on there, but I mean it was the best source I found, so if you are trying to insult me, mission failed, abort! ABORT! Like your mom should have done

08-09-2008, 11:55 PM	#19
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	no way crysis will run on this computer.

08-10-2008, 12:02 AM	#20
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	also can someone tell me what's so amazing about eve online? I've heard it's different than most mmorpgs but i can't really imagine flying around in space forever being all that much fun I like to have charecter interaction and story. Please correct me on this I'm not much for mmorpgs yet because I'm not much for PvP I would love to play them but I think when they come up with games where the mission's are as inticate as say oblivion, and each person really influences things and you have to take care of your charecter like in the isms (of course toned down) but you have to actually walk to your job when you want to get paid, or do some sort of really deep mission, that can either be a single player or a multi player mission. another problem is leveling I don't want to devote my time to leveling up so much that I can't just pick up and feel like I'm affectin ghte game world, MMORPGs are amazing if you plan on investing time to them. One day when they reach a different pinnacle like a MMORPGFPS or something I'll jump on that bandwagon

08-10-2008, 12:05 AM	#21
Requiem Posts: 19,301	If you don't like PvP you will get bored of it to be completely honest. You don't have to level up, because skill gain is done in real time using a weird system. But the game itself is crazy in depth, and extremely fulfilling when you actually get something done. But if you don't like PvP, you will not like it. It is primarily PvP in practically everything.. whether playing the economy, or actually fighting other players, or even just trying to mine to do crafting.. always have to be on the watch for other players, if you want to go where the real money is in the game. I mean.. you could essentially stay in PvE space at all times, but there is still a chance that someone will suicide kill you to try taking what you have.. and you would miss out on the main focus of the game. I wrote some big long post like a year ago or something you could probably find by searching the forum..

08-10-2008, 12:31 AM	#23
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	well it's not that I am anti PVP but I just feel that I would rather work toward a common goal at most times and do intricate puzzles or whatever ie adventure games, I mean fighting is fun and what not, and if the system was done right it could be awesome, but I don't enjoy the repetitiveness of it in games like WOW City of Heroes has however peaked my interest with the full customability of charecters. Another issue is the subscription shit, but that can be easily avoided with private servers even though that's illegal nad you can lose your charecter in a second. Anarchy online was interesting as well. but again it's the repetiveness that kills me. It's ironic though that I enjoy games like Harvest Moon which are essentially repetitive tasks, but they change monthly ie crops etc and there is an ongoing story that keeps me going. In MMORPGS there is an overall story but I would want to feel like I am a main influence in the gaming world, even if I wasn't. that's what I like about games the escapism, you get to be someone who is changing the world around you, and you are the primary focus. IRL I'll probably never save the world let alone anyone's life except my future kids maybe in a roundabout way or something. In MMORPGs I don't really feel like I'm anyone important or moreso than anyone else, and in order to be I'd have to spend a long time gaining levels which just isn't fun to me, if it were fun then hell I'd do it. But again the repitition (kinda metawriting right now by saying this over and over)

08-10-2008, 01:26 AM	#24
Requiem Posts: 19,301	EVE is by far the second best MMO I've played, only because the best was my first and no memories will ever compare to that game's. But as far as working towards a common goal, that is primarily what EVE is about. Joining huge alliances made up of multiple corporations (guilds), all working to capture territory and maintain an income to supply their warfare. Pretty much the simplest way to describe it. It is a lot deeper than that, but that's what it is about in the 'big picture'. It's a single server game, that has topped out somewhere at like 47k people online at the same time. There is really no point to playing on private servers because the appeal of the game -is- its single server environment. This allows literally hundreds of -huge- corporations to exist, some with a thousand plus members in them. It is also a sci-fi game obviously, and combat is restricted to ship-based combat. People think it is simple on the surface, but once you get past that and into the numbers and all, it is really complex. The game actually takes knowledge and skill to be good at, and it has one of the highest learning curves of any MMO I've ever played. But it is also the most rewarding because there are actually penalties associated with death.. etc.. so when you succeed in something, you really feel like you worked at it.. unlike WoW where if you die, who gives a shit you just respawn with some armor damage which can be repaired for cheap.

08-10-2008, 01:36 AM	#25
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	I've heard about assassinations though and like crazy buisness practices, it really did intrigue me once I read that.

08-10-2008, 01:56 AM	#26
Requiem Posts: 19,301	http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ One of the most expensive in-game heists in any MMO, done in a way that was completely allowed due to them using the game's mechanics. The only one that I can think of worth more money was the Intergalactic Bank Heist, which the guy got away with over $170,000(USD) worth of in-game cash. But not done in nearly as cool a manner as the above link. For serious though. Amazing game.. real world style economy, harsh PvP, territorial conquest.. basically choose your own gaming style. Not to mention, rather spectacular graphics considering it's based in space and there normally wouldn't be much there.

08-10-2008, 02:09 AM	#27
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	man he got over 170 mil and still had to pay 16 bucks a month. loser. I might give it a try if they have a free demo thing, but the thing with that would be even if you do a free trial month you can't really get into the game deep in only a month. Another problem with most mmorpgs. Def. gonna try city of heroes eventually

08-10-2008, 02:14 AM	#28
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	so it isn't just ships running around you actually have a person as well?

08-10-2008, 02:45 AM	#29
Requiem Posts: 19,301	Actually, you can purchase game time cards using in-game money from other players. Prices vary based on supply and demand. And yeah, they have a 14 day trial that doesn't require a CC that you can do as many times as you want. I did the trial about 5 or 6 times before actually subscribing, because you seriously will not know what you're doing for a while. And nah.. just ships, until some time this year when they add the ambulation expansion (which will be free like all their other expansions) and it will add walking in stations, and a number of other ways to make money that way.

08-10-2008, 02:46 AM	#30
El Fangel ELF ANGEL Posts: 39,476	Stop trying to get people to play EVE you fucking sell-out

08-10-2008, 02:48 AM	#31
El Fangel ELF ANGEL Posts: 39,476	Fav Games, in no order. Age Of Empires Doom Doom 2 Final Doom Ultimate Doom Doom 3 Quake Quake 2 Diablo Diablo 2 Deux EX Unreal Tournament Serious Sam Serious Sam: Second Encounter Warcraft Warcraft II: Battlenet Edition Starcraft

08-10-2008, 03:27 AM	#36
LoDownM Retired Prolly. Posts: 11,296	I see.

08-10-2008, 03:35 AM	#37
Requiem Posts: 19,301	For free. And for like a week. I would like to note that I have not played WoW except for that one week.

08-10-2008, 03:42 AM	#39
LoDownM Retired Prolly. Posts: 11,296	Get a room.

08-10-2008, 04:38 AM	#40
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	I have played them all, but I got the tip for some off that pc gamer list.