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Old 08-20-2008, 01:55 AM   #1
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Beth Phoenix "news"
The official website of WWE Women's Champion Beth Phoenix, www.BethPhoenixGlamazon.com, was believed to have been hacked. The site displayed a TNA logo (which has since been removed), but it was actually the doing of the webmaster in a cry for attention from Beth and/or WWE. The webmaster of the site has since sent out a statement regarding the site being "hacked," as it really wasn't. Basically, the webmaster is upset that Beth has pretty much ignored him in helping him update the official site, and feels that she's broken some promises as well. He is also upset that WWE is using a logo he created for the site in Beth's TitanTron without his permission. He plans on pursuing legal action against WWE over use of the logo as both Beth and the organization have ignored all of his e-mails.

Here is the webmaster's statement:

I would like to issue this statement in regards to the Official Website of Beth Phoenix being "hacked"

There is some sites reporting that someone hacked the website, and placed the TNA logo there, other sites are reporting that it was just a disgruntled webmaster... tis is what happened

I was the webmaster for Beth’s Official website for its entire 9 month run, and at this point I'd like to explain what has gone on. Disgruntled is only the beginning....

I approached Beth Phoenix in regards to an Official website when she was still working down in OVW before being called back up to the WWE main roster last year. I believe we launched the site sometime around April, 2007, with the full support and input of Beth herself. We spoke about how the site should be and Beth sent on some cool ideas for some video promos that I ended up making as teaser trailers for the countdown to the opening of the site.

I had told Beth that I would look after all the registration and hosting costs of the site, because I am a pro-wrestling fan, I wasn’t bothered about spending some money each year to become the webmaster for Beth’s official website and stay in contact with her.

She wasn’t the easiest to stay in touch with, even when she was still down in OVW, but I still continued on with the site. Then some of the Beth Phoenix fansites, which may I say do an excellent job, started to get some exclusive news that I felt should’ve been reported first and exclusively on Beth’s official site. I asked why we couldn’t do it through our site, and was promised by her husband, Joey, that he would now handle reporting all news etc. to me (At this point Beth had been called back up to the main WWE roster).

We done some cool stuff with Joey, his tag-team partner Robin Knightwing, and Beth’s best friend, Kevin Grace, like PPV predictions etc etc. And I am grateful for their help at the time when Beth was busy on the road.

Unfortunately, once again, I was informed of new exclusive news being reported by a Beth fansite and I had had enough at this point. I was promised by Beth that she would send me on some stuff for doing the website for her for free, which I never received, when I asked about this stuff that never arrived, I received a Christmas card/photo signed by Beth, Joey & Knightwing. I was also promised that when Beth was in Belfast on tour with WWE (I live in Ireland), that she would in the least give me a phone call to say hi and thank me for doing the website, which, again, I never received that call.

I had asked Joey to send me on some photos and news that we could use as exclusives on the site, which I was promised to get, but never did, so at that point I decided to tell Joey to inform Beth the site was done, I was tired getting used while Beth’s official site was getting more and more popular. We had some words through email and basically I didn’t like that way I was spoken to, I was told that someone my age (I’m 2 years younger than Beth by the way) should be glad to be able to run her official website and be friends with and I quote “the WWE Women’s Champion” - this was completely the end for me, sounded like winning a title went straight to someone's ego!

I would like to point out that when I did originally close the website (in January, 2008), I publicly thanked Beth, Joey, Robin, Kevin and a number of OVW people who helped out during the course of the site on the actual website. You think this is where the story ends.... but NO!!

I was informed by a friend sometime around the end of January that when WWE switched to the new HD set on Raw that a logo I had created specifically for Beth’s official website was being used on her TitanTron entrance.

Upon checking this out for myself I found out that WWE had stolen the logo and been using it since their very first HD broadcast in January, 2008. To say I was annoyed was a bit of an understatement!

I immediately contacted both Beth and Joey to find out if she had given WWE permission to use the logo, or if they had simply stolen it off the website. I got no reply from either. I then sent the WWE’s legal department a letter informing them of my problem with their usage of my logo, to which I also got no reply. I once again contacted Beth & Joey and pleaded with them to inform me of who gave WWE permission to use my logo, and if I didn’t get a reply I would be pursuing legal action against whoever I needed to take action against, to which, surprise surprise! I got no reply.

I have consulted with a number of people, including some pro-wrestlers, and was told to pursue my legal action against WWE over the use of my logo without permission, which I am currently following up.

I would just like to say that it is very annoying and just plain disheartening that after 9 months of non-stop hard work, not to mention the amount of money spent on web hosting, registration, purchasing past DVD’s featuring Beth to use on the website, that I was so blatantly used and screwed over by someone. At this point neither Beth nor Joey will answer my emails, and I was told in person at signings etc that Beth is one of the nicest people you could ever meet, well I’m here to tell you that she is nothing but a total user, and the general assumption of wrestlers is that they use you until they get what they want and then drop you like you never existed.

I cannot and will not watch any of Beth’s stuff on tv anymore, and until this matter is resolved and I receive an apology of sorts I will continue to tell people of what Beth Phoenix is really like.

Regarding this whole site being "hacked" issue with the TNA logo... everyone is about 2 months off regarding this... I did place the TNA logo on the website around June, 2008, in an attempt to get Beth’s/WWE’s attention over this matter, whether it worked or not is another discussion. I apologize to TNA if there is any issue regarding this.

I’d like to thank everyone who spent the time to visit Beth’s website when it was active, I’d also like to point out that Beth Unlimited (www.beth-phoenix.org) is the best Beth Phoenix fansite around at the moment, they do a great job over there, and beat me to the punch on news a number of times!!

I’d like to hear what some people think regarding the incidents above, please feel free to contact me at : webmaster@bethphoenixglamazon.com

Thanks (I've also attached photos of the logo mentioned above being used on WWE tv)

You can see images featuring the logo at this link.
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:58 AM   #2
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The logo looks like an amateurish piece of shit anyway.
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Old 08-20-2008, 02:09 AM   #3
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LOL @ the mark being pissed cause Beth wouldn't talk to him.
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Old 08-20-2008, 02:09 AM   #4
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If he can prove he had the logo first he's got somethign though.
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:28 AM   #5
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I was informed by a friend sometime around the end of January that when WWE switched to the new HD set on Raw that a logo I had created specifically for Beth’s official website was being used on her TitanTron entrance.
This is the part that, if true, pisses me off. Doesn't matter whether the logo is "amateurish" or not, it's his intellectual property. If he's got a contract stating that what is on the site is his, or Beth's, or whatever (which all web designers really should do), then that's a start.

And the logo doesn't look all that bad to me. WWE saw fit to use it, so it can't be all that bad.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:06 AM   #6
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A whole lot of stupid shit that I'm not going to read
So... Noid is Beth's webmaster?
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:14 AM   #7
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I would bum Beth Pheonix all over the house
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:49 AM   #8
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Beth Phoenix will throw the Women's Title in the trash, and it will come out the Divas Championship.
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Old 08-20-2008, 04:32 PM   #9
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Yeah, let's all make fun of the little mark. Let's overlook the fact that the web designer created a web site FOR FREE that would realistically cost about $1,000 to create. Let's also overlook the fact that he was promised exclusive news, being the official site of Beth Phoenix and all, but kept getting shafted in that regard. Let's also overlook the (alleged) fact that WWE stole the logo without asking the creator. Let's finally overlook the fact that certain content promised for the site was never provided by the client.

Of course, since he did the site for free (from what I understand), then there couldn't have been a contract involved. He did indeed shoot himself in the foot, but he did do an entire job for free, out of admiration for the client. It's pretty shitty, then, for the client(s) to shit all over his work and dedication by basically ignoring his site.

For clarification, this is not some random fan-site. This is an official site for Beth Phoenix.

In the end, the web developer should have learned never to do anything for free, ever again. At a discount, sure, but never for free.

At least he has a portfolio piece to add to his repertoire.
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:09 PM   #10
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the guy is a moron for doing this for free. He's one of these people I can't stand that is so obsessed with another human being that he doesn't even know personally. To Beth, she probably just thought this was the guy's hobby or something and milked the offer. he did the site for free and had no contract with her or anything, so he should have been prepared for this. He's whining because she didn't call him? Come on.. Yea, he might be a real nice guy, but he should learn that if you live on planet Earth, don't expect much back from human beings you don't even personally know.

The whole stealing the logo thing is fucked up though. I'd be furious.
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:01 PM   #11
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I'd be pissed, but I'd have da forsight not ta do anything like dat for free.
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:07 PM   #12
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what does this logo look like?
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:58 PM   #13
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Stupid obsessed fan boy.
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:53 PM   #14
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The logo was posted right above in the original post.
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:15 AM   #15
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This is the part that, if true, pisses me off. Doesn't matter whether the logo is "amateurish" or not, it's his intellectual property. If he's got a contract stating that what is on the site is his, or Beth's, or whatever (which all web designers really should do), then that's a start.

And the logo doesn't look all that bad to me. WWE saw fit to use it, so it can't be all that bad.
I was on board with you until you said that part right there
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Ok so basically i should feel sorry for some loser who sits around his house (or lackluster job) waiting for news on Beth Phoenix and not having a life?

correct me if i'm wrong (and yes he did all that work blah blah blah shit)
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:29 PM   #17
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Eh, you guys have a point. He really shouldn't have done all that work for free, and he ends up looking like a silly mark for doing so. He really can't expect much in this case.
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