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Old 01-20-2009, 01:38 PM   #1
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Has the Triple Crown (WWE) lost meaning?
Well has it? I'm not saying the merely because CM Punk is now a Triple Crown champion, but because they have alterinate titles so it is easier than ever to become one.

Also there have been 6 people to achieve this in the since 2006.
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Old 01-20-2009, 01:56 PM   #2
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It's easier because there are two tag titles and two World titles, but since it doesn't happen THAT often, I;m gonna go with no.

Granted, Jeff Hardy also reached Triple Crown status last year, but before that it was Randy Orton, and before that it was Booker T.
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Old 01-20-2009, 01:59 PM   #3
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When MVP (the best wrestler to never be a world champion of this generation) wins a world title which he will soon, he better be counted as a Triple Crown champion with his US title run.
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Yes, it's lost all meaning considering WWE has 7 titles that count towards it. All the titles have lost all meaning. In the 90s and 80s, you had 3 champions and the titles were all regarded as an achievement rather than an accessory.

Yes, the size of the roster does have an affect on this, but that's why this should scale. Right now the Triple Crown/Grand Slam levels are out and unless you've won the 7 major titles it shouldn't be viewed as an accomplishment, barring those who achieved the goal when the three/four titles were the only titles in existence.
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Triple crown now means obtaining the ECW, World Heavyweight, and WWE titles.
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^ Triple Crown is WWE/WHC, IC and Tag
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^ Triple Crown is WWE/WHC, IC and Tag
Why should this be the standard when there are more titles in the picture? And including the WHC is foolish when excluding the US title, as per my reply to the other thread.
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Why should this be the standard when there are more titles in the picture? And including the WHC is foolish when excluding the US title, as per my reply to the other thread.
I get what you're saying, but wouldn't allowing more belts to be included amount to more wrestlers being able to achieve Triple Crown status thus making the Triple Crown title lose ALL meaning?
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I get what you're saying, but wouldn't allowing more belts to be included amount to more wrestlers being able to achieve Triple Crown status thus making the Triple Crown title lose ALL meaning?
Of course, which is why I suggested making the new "Triple Crown" standard a 7 title "crown".

When you have multiple titles on similar levels you have to adapt. If the IC or WWE Tag titles were regarded as much higher than their counterparts you'd have a point, but they aren't.
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Of course, which is why I suggested making the new "Triple Crown" standard a 7 title "crown".

When you have multiple titles on similar levels you have to adapt. If the IC or WWE Tag titles were regarded as much higher than their counterparts you'd have a point, but they aren't.
I would say the IC title, in the WWE Universe, is regarded higher than the US title. You have point with the tag tittles thought.
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The title of "Triple Crown" winner doesn't amount to anything. What people actually remember and what is important are the individual runs. That's why when you compare CM Punk or Kane as a Triple Crown winner they look terrible compared to someone like Flair, Nash, Triple H (yeah, Grand Slam, but whatever).
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Also, if both versions of tag titles counts, why doesn't the us?
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Also, if both versions of tag titles counts, why doesn't the us?
Only the World tag titles count, should've made that clear in my initial post
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Only the World tag titles count, should've made that clear in my initial post
Angle, Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Rob Van Dam, and Booker T are all considered triple crown champions with the WWE Tag Team Champioships.
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Angle, Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Rob Van Dam, and Booker T are all considered triple crown champions with the WWE Tag Team Champioships.
Color me wrong then
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Angle, Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Rob Van Dam, and Booker T are all considered triple crown champions with the WWE Tag Team Champioships.
Only Eddie and Angle I think
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I'm aruging it already has. Also someone like MVP who has had meaningful runs as a US champion and Tag Team Champion wouldn't be counted as a Triple Crown Champion if he wins a Main Event title, while CM Punk has been a place holder paper champion as both World and Tag team champion. That is crap.
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I'm aruging it already has. Also someone like MVP who has had meaningful runs as a US champion and Tag Team Champion wouldn't be counted as a Triple Crown Champion if he wins a Main Event title, while CM Punk has been a place holder paper champion as both World and Tag team champion. That is crap.
You're right, that is crap, but I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles.
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Just remembered the World Tag title is the one with the WWF Tag title lineage, they really fucked that one up.
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The ECW and the US title as of the second don't count towards either the triple crown or grand slam champion status.
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The ECW and the US title as of the second don't count towards either the triple crown or grand slam champion status.
But why does the WHC count, then?
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But why does the WHC count, then?
Not a clue. You know...if the US title did count, Cena and Bradshaw would both be triple crown champions.
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I would suggest splitting these across the two major brands (SmackDown! triple crown and RAW triple crown) but rosters and titles change between brands too often for it to be viable.
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WWE should really address this.
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So at the very least, CM Punk is a Brand Triple Crown winner.

Which may or may not have been mentioned already
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Not even that, plus he did it backwards. For a brand triple crown, he should have won the WWE not the Heavyweight...even though the Heavyweight started life on Raw...
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You are infact only saying this because fo Punk, and imo it never had meaning at all. The grand slam is the only thing that's ever had meaning.
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You are infact only saying this because fo Punk, and imo it never had meaning at all. The grand slam is the only thing that's ever had meaning.
Even before the European title was instated?
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Even before the European title was instated?
Yes. Triple was never a very big deal and was very rarely mentioned and even less than that was it noticed.
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Yes. Triple was never a very big deal and was very rarely mentioned and even less than that was it noticed.
How could it be mentioned more than it was noticed, moron.
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Yes. Triple was never a very big deal and was very rarely mentioned and even less than that was it noticed.
That's ridiculous reasoning considering WWE only really pushed the Grand Slam deal on Michaels.
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I like CM Punk, I'm not saying this because of him per say but more because of him becoming one quicker than Nash and realizing how many there have been in the past few years.
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The fact that there are more triple crown champions in the past 6 years than good wrestlers to never win a big one is a sign.
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Oh, you gotta remember Destor is a wrestler, therefore knows more than us dumb marks.
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Did you guys even watch back then? I don't think they even mentiond this accomplishment a single time.
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Did you guys even watch back then? I don't think they even mentiond this accomplishment a single time.
They most certainly did. They didn't use the term "Triple Crown" but when Bret Hart completed it in 1992, they brought up that he was only the second guy ever to do it, and cited Pedro Morales as the first. They mentioned it again when Diesel became the first guy to do it in under a year.
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