Oz

**IC Champion** · 02-02-2009, 11:34 PM

Saw it a few times when I was younger, but decided to sit down and watch the whole thing about a week ago, I'm just about done. Raw, gritty and great. I regret not watching it before.

Anyone else love this show?

**Triple A** · 02-02-2009, 11:49 PM

It is probably my favorite show of all time. So incredible. I loved that show so much.

**IC Champion** · 02-03-2009, 01:15 AM

Yeah, I just finished the Episode where Beecher gets sent back to Oz.

**Boondock Saint** · 02-03-2009, 02:06 AM

One of my favorite shows ever. HBO's best show after The Wire.

**Juan** · 02-03-2009, 02:49 AM

Loved this show.

In fact, thanks to you IC, I think I might start re-watching it

**ct2k** · 02-03-2009, 03:44 AM

Simon Adebisi

**IC Champion** · 02-03-2009, 04:21 AM

Ryan O'Rielly

**Inadequacy** · 02-03-2009, 01:00 PM

Been watching it a lot on HBO Canada and I have the first season on dvd.

Kareem Said.

**ct2k** · 02-03-2009, 01:08 PM

Show is fuckin WAY depressing though, like on the same level as The Wire in that regard imo, mainly because it doesn't pull any punches in trying to address the big 'issues' surrounding its subject matter, but thats probably what makes it such a good show.

**IC Champion** · 02-03-2009, 02:56 PM

Yeah, it is despressing as fuck. Even more than The Wire, I'd say.

**IC Champion** · 02-03-2009, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inadequacy

Kareem Said.

Is my favourite character on the show.

**Russenmafia** · 02-03-2009, 03:56 PM

The best TV show ever made.

**PapaGeorgio** · 02-03-2009, 07:46 PM

Fuck you probably going to make me rewatch it again now. I usually stop rewatching after season 4.5 For one, the obvious happens if you seen it, and from that point onwards def downhill major.

**PapaGeorgio** · 02-03-2009, 07:47 PM

FUCKKKK DONT WANT TO COMMITT MYSELF TO IT BUT IT IS LITERALLY STARING ME IN THE FACE, PUTTING THE DISC IN FOR S1 D1. WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME

**PapaGeorgio** · 02-03-2009, 07:51 PM

I once had to do a monologue for something in school and we were allowed to pick anything. I picked one of Hills monologues, well combined like two or three of his. Class was rolling, hold up let me find it.

When Napoleon died in Exile, the doctors cut off his dick. They put his dick in an ornate jar and gave it to his priest; don't ask me why. Over the years, Napoleon's dick was sold and sold again to the highest bidder. To this day, at least three people claim to own Napoleon's dick. But you see, it's not important who owns the real dick. The big question is, well... who the fuck do those other two dicks belong to?

Napoleon's final defeat came at Waterloo. Must've been embarrassing. You're the fucking emperor. You conquered all of Europe, only to lose in a place with a stupid name like Waterloo. Or Watergate, or Whitewater. Note to politicans: Stay on land.

**Destor** · 02-03-2009, 07:55 PM

what Triple A said...

**IC Champion** · 02-03-2009, 10:41 PM

Seinfeld goes to Oz

Seinfeld in Oz
Uploaded by renzo433

**IC Champion** · 02-03-2009, 11:26 PM

Anyways, just finished watched the final episode. What a great fucking show.

**Danny Electric** · 02-04-2009, 10:07 PM

Got all the seasons on DVD, my favourite show ever.
As has been discussed many times before

**IC Champion** · 02-04-2009, 10:33 PM

Who do you guys think was the best actor on the series?

**Triple A** · 02-04-2009, 11:09 PM

Fav character was always Adebisi just because of his ridiculousness. Also always loved Schillinger... and Keller actually. Whatever, every character was amazing.

**PapaGeorgio** · 02-04-2009, 11:52 PM

I agree with AAA. Adebisi was amazing. The Schillinger/Beecher storlyline was AMAZING. I legit hated Keller, like he played the character so great and fucked over Beecher more than Schillinger in some ways. Like I am just now getting over what Keller did and semi able to watch SVU without some hate. I was also big fan of Kareem Saide too. So many great characters.

Plus they'd have a bunch of good cameo type characters too.

Least favorite is def the asian priest, always wanted to punch him in his stupid face.(Note his face being stupid has nothing to do with the fact he is asain, only a stupid face cause i hate him soooooo much)

**Inadequacy** · 02-05-2009, 12:32 AM

It'd be nearly impossible for me to pick a favourite character. Luckily between the O'Reilly brothers, Beecher, White, Morales (just to name a few) I don't think I have to nor should I.

But the best actor for me would be a toss up between Eamonn Walker and Harold Perrineau. Walker because he played Said perfectly and Perrineau because he practically carried the show.

"Carried the show" might not be the correct phrase, but I think you know what I mean.

**Inadequacy** · 02-05-2009, 12:34 AM

That needed to be posted

**Boondock Saint** · 02-05-2009, 03:22 AM

Jia Kenmin

**Boondock Saint** · 02-05-2009, 03:23 AM

Actually one of the characters I hated on the show (aka loved to hate) was Robson. But he got his comeuppance.

**Triple A** · 02-05-2009, 03:51 AM

Yeah Robson was amazing as a pure evil sidekick to make Schillinger seem kinda good. Also love the shot of Schillinger playing pool whenever he was Up To No Good.

**Danny Electric** · 02-05-2009, 04:48 AM

Robson and his black gums

**Danny Electric** · 02-05-2009, 04:53 AM

Loads to choose from but probably Kirk Acevedo, from his relationship with Father Ray to his time in solitary and his battels with the other Hispanics.

**Krimzon7** · 02-05-2009, 11:39 AM

loved the them song...

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAH!

**Inadequacy** · 02-05-2009, 02:40 PM

I hated Robson at first, but the guy who played him was so awesome I've now come to like him.

I think it was the way he said "strike fuckin two" when him and some other Aryan were killing the young muslim. It was priceless.

**IC Champion** · 02-05-2009, 04:19 PM

Eaamon Walker and Kirk Acevedo were both pretty awesome on the show.

Why do people hate on the 5th and 6th seasons?

**Gonzo** · 02-05-2009, 06:50 PM

I love this show.

**Krimzon7** · 02-05-2009, 09:16 PM

Oz was so great. My favorite scene

XL · 02-06-2009, 08:07 PM

I was so gonna start a new Oz thread but thought I'd get shit as there is/was one on here from not so long ago.

I bought the first 4 seasons on DVD since they started coming out over here in the UK but then I lost my job and have been out of work since, got no money and thus I'm still having to wait to get seasons 5 and 6. First things on the list once I have any kinda expendable cash though.

I lent the Season 1 boxset to a friend to watch, he returned it having watched 2 episodes. Fucking philistine/retard.

**Jeritron** · 02-07-2009, 01:25 AM

lol when Rudd watches this the night before he goes to jail in Role Models

**Confused** · 02-07-2009, 05:34 AM

Loved the show even though it was on ridiculously late on a Thursday night over here.

How can anyone fail to love Adebisi' little hat?

**ct2k** · 02-07-2009, 07:03 AM

lol @ the beecher/schillinger duet

One of my favourite scenes was when Beecher finally snapped and took a dump on Schillinger. In fact every time Beecher went off the rails was brilliant. Also honourable mention to Chris Keller for seducing Sister Peter Marie, Miguel Alvarez for teaching the guide dog Spanish and Kareem Said for "ADEBISI LIVES

"

**Mr. Nerfect** · 02-10-2009, 04:53 AM

Oz is ridiculously awesome. It's so awesome that you almost want to complain about why other things aren't as awesome as it. The writing, the acting and just the general outlay of the show were fucking fantastic. Tom Fontana writing (or co-writing) all 56 episodes of it just blows my mind.

My favourite character had to be Kareem Said. The older I get, the more I appreciate him, too. Such a wise, yet extremely scary man. When he loses his temper, it legitimately sends chills up my spine. I've also got to say that the Omar White character won me over. He eventually became a rather warm character, despite starting off so cold. And seeing him writing up quantum physics on the white board towards the end of the season six was awesomely hilarious. There was true redemption in that character.

Enrique Morales also won me over. But that's probably more to do with David Zayas than the character. But I loved how Zayas played him as if he were honourable and someone you could actually approach and talk to. He almost seemed humble until he was shoving a power drill into your throat.

Erik King's Moses Dyell character (or whatever his name was) was pretty funny. I am yet to see too much earlier than season four, but some of his exchanges ("Yes, genius, yes,") were pretty hilarious, and any man that sings Amazing Grace before punching through a brick wall and choking someone gets a few dozen thumbs up from me.

As far as the best actor on the show goes -- while it is hard to pick just one guy based purely on acting, I'd really have to narrow it down to some of the following:

Chris Meloni as Chris Keller. The way he played Keller was just chilling. It was often funny, scary and you actually felt confident that he was one of the few guys in Oz that was actually safe. You didn't want to fuck with Keller. That Meloni made the character seem so confusingly warm and cold almost at random was fantastic. He was also playing a fictional detective that was pretty much the inverse of Keller on Law & Order: SVU simulataneously, too. And just the raw power of his physical acting. Meloni was fantastic on this show.

Lee Tergesen as Tobias Beecher was also fantastic, and J.K. Simmons is always a god. Thank you for posting that Variety video, Inadequacy. Thank you so much. But both those men did so well with their roles, purely as actors, and not just as well-written characters.

Another guy who really deserves credit, is Scott William Winters. Cyril O'Reily was one of the hearts of the show, and although he needed his brother to survive in Oz, you also got the impression that Ryan would have given up if Cyril hadn't have been there. The character had a good heart, but was not harmless, and whenever Cyril got into a fight, someone was bound to be getting fucked up. Scott William Winters disappeared into the character, to the point where he is almost unrecogniseable when he leaves it, I've found. When Sister Peter Marie gave him the sock puppet, Jericho, and a more confident Cyril started to come out from it, it was damn chilling to hear the change in voice, posture, etc.

But I'd have to go with Eamonn Walker as the best actor in the show. Kareem Said was so likable and so terrifying at the same time, and that really drew off Walker's power as an actor. I think he just narrowly pulls in front of Christopher Meloni.

I'll need to go back and watch some of the earlier seasons to truly inform my opinion, though.

**Mr. Nerfect** · 02-10-2009, 05:26 AM

What was everyone's favourite sort of story arc? You know, besides the obvious Beecher/Schillinger thing. Personally, I really liked the relationship Tim McManus had with several characters. The "not giving up" on Omar White thing, as well as his stuff with Jackson Vahue and Dave Brass.

02-02-2009, 11:34 PM	#1
IC Champion They/Them Posts: 15,331	Oz Saw it a few times when I was younger, but decided to sit down and watch the whole thing about a week ago, I'm just about done. Raw, gritty and great. I regret not watching it before. Anyone else love this show?

02-07-2009, 07:03 AM	#38
ct2k Triple A Posts: 48,551	lol @ the beecher/schillinger duet One of my favourite scenes was when Beecher finally snapped and took a dump on Schillinger. In fact every time Beecher went off the rails was brilliant. Also honourable mention to Chris Keller for seducing Sister Peter Marie, Miguel Alvarez for teaching the guide dog Spanish and Kareem Said for "ADEBISI LIVES"

02-10-2009, 04:53 AM	#39
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 61,569	Oz is ridiculously awesome. It's so awesome that you almost want to complain about why other things aren't as awesome as it. The writing, the acting and just the general outlay of the show were fucking fantastic. Tom Fontana writing (or co-writing) all 56 episodes of it just blows my mind. My favourite character had to be Kareem Said. The older I get, the more I appreciate him, too. Such a wise, yet extremely scary man. When he loses his temper, it legitimately sends chills up my spine. I've also got to say that the Omar White character won me over. He eventually became a rather warm character, despite starting off so cold. And seeing him writing up quantum physics on the white board towards the end of the season six was awesomely hilarious. There was true redemption in that character. Enrique Morales also won me over. But that's probably more to do with David Zayas than the character. But I loved how Zayas played him as if he were honourable and someone you could actually approach and talk to. He almost seemed humble until he was shoving a power drill into your throat. Erik King's Moses Dyell character (or whatever his name was) was pretty funny. I am yet to see too much earlier than season four, but some of his exchanges ("Yes, genius, yes,") were pretty hilarious, and any man that sings Amazing Grace before punching through a brick wall and choking someone gets a few dozen thumbs up from me. As far as the best actor on the show goes -- while it is hard to pick just one guy based purely on acting, I'd really have to narrow it down to some of the following: Chris Meloni as Chris Keller. The way he played Keller was just chilling. It was often funny, scary and you actually felt confident that he was one of the few guys in Oz that was actually safe. You didn't want to fuck with Keller. That Meloni made the character seem so confusingly warm and cold almost at random was fantastic. He was also playing a fictional detective that was pretty much the inverse of Keller on Law & Order: SVU simulataneously, too. And just the raw power of his physical acting. Meloni was fantastic on this show. Lee Tergesen as Tobias Beecher was also fantastic, and J.K. Simmons is always a god. Thank you for posting that Variety video, Inadequacy. Thank you so much. But both those men did so well with their roles, purely as actors, and not just as well-written characters. Another guy who really deserves credit, is Scott William Winters. Cyril O'Reily was one of the hearts of the show, and although he needed his brother to survive in Oz, you also got the impression that Ryan would have given up if Cyril hadn't have been there. The character had a good heart, but was not harmless, and whenever Cyril got into a fight, someone was bound to be getting fucked up. Scott William Winters disappeared into the character, to the point where he is almost unrecogniseable when he leaves it, I've found. When Sister Peter Marie gave him the sock puppet, Jericho, and a more confident Cyril started to come out from it, it was damn chilling to hear the change in voice, posture, etc. But I'd have to go with Eamonn Walker as the best actor in the show. Kareem Said was so likable and so terrifying at the same time, and that really drew off Walker's power as an actor. I think he just narrowly pulls in front of Christopher Meloni. I'll need to go back and watch some of the earlier seasons to truly inform my opinion, though. Last edited by Mr. Nerfect; 02-10-2009 at 05:24 AM.

02-10-2009, 05:26 AM	#40
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 61,569	What was everyone's favourite sort of story arc? You know, besides the obvious Beecher/Schillinger thing. Personally, I really liked the relationship Tim McManus had with several characters. The "not giving up" on Omar White thing, as well as his stuff with Jackson Vahue and Dave Brass. Last edited by Mr. Nerfect; 02-10-2009 at 05:30 AM.

02-02-2009, 11:49 PM	#2
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	It is probably my favorite show of all time. So incredible. I loved that show so much.

02-03-2009, 01:15 AM	#3
IC Champion They/Them Posts: 15,331	Yeah, I just finished the Episode where Beecher gets sent back to Oz.

02-03-2009, 02:06 AM	#4
Boondock Saint Posts: 8,795	One of my favorite shows ever. HBO's best show after The Wire.

02-03-2009, 02:49 AM	#5
Juan Doin' It Right Posts: 35,461	Loved this show. In fact, thanks to you IC, I think I might start re-watching it

02-03-2009, 03:44 AM	#6
ct2k Triple A Posts: 48,551	Simon Adebisi

02-03-2009, 04:21 AM	#7
IC Champion They/Them Posts: 15,331	Ryan O'Rielly

02-03-2009, 01:00 PM	#8
Inadequacy I'm nauseous Posts: 1,994	Been watching it a lot on HBO Canada and I have the first season on dvd. Kareem Said.

02-03-2009, 01:08 PM	#9
ct2k Triple A Posts: 48,551	Show is fuckin WAY depressing though, like on the same level as The Wire in that regard imo, mainly because it doesn't pull any punches in trying to address the big 'issues' surrounding its subject matter, but thats probably what makes it such a good show.

02-03-2009, 02:56 PM	#10
IC Champion They/Them Posts: 15,331	Yeah, it is despressing as fuck. Even more than The Wire, I'd say.

02-03-2009, 03:56 PM	#12
Russenmafia Scottish Champions 2009 Posts: 744	The best TV show ever made.

02-03-2009, 07:46 PM	#13
PapaGeorgio 2015 TPWW FANTASY CHAMP Posts: 4,861	Fuck you probably going to make me rewatch it again now. I usually stop rewatching after season 4.5 For one, the obvious happens if you seen it, and from that point onwards def downhill major.

02-03-2009, 07:47 PM	#14
PapaGeorgio 2015 TPWW FANTASY CHAMP Posts: 4,861	FUCKKKK DONT WANT TO COMMITT MYSELF TO IT BUT IT IS LITERALLY STARING ME IN THE FACE, PUTTING THE DISC IN FOR S1 D1. WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME

02-03-2009, 07:51 PM	#15
PapaGeorgio 2015 TPWW FANTASY CHAMP Posts: 4,861	I once had to do a monologue for something in school and we were allowed to pick anything. I picked one of Hills monologues, well combined like two or three of his. Class was rolling, hold up let me find it. When Napoleon died in Exile, the doctors cut off his dick. They put his dick in an ornate jar and gave it to his priest; don't ask me why. Over the years, Napoleon's dick was sold and sold again to the highest bidder. To this day, at least three people claim to own Napoleon's dick. But you see, it's not important who owns the real dick. The big question is, well... who the fuck do those other two dicks belong to? Napoleon's final defeat came at Waterloo. Must've been embarrassing. You're the fucking emperor. You conquered all of Europe, only to lose in a place with a stupid name like Waterloo. Or Watergate, or Whitewater. Note to politicans: Stay on land.

02-03-2009, 07:55 PM	#16
Destor I am the cheese Posts: 51,469	what Triple A said...

02-03-2009, 10:41 PM	#17
IC Champion They/Them Posts: 15,331	Seinfeld goes to Oz Seinfeld in Oz Uploaded by renzo433

02-03-2009, 11:26 PM	#18
IC Champion They/Them Posts: 15,331	Anyways, just finished watched the final episode. What a great fucking show.

02-04-2009, 10:07 PM	#19
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Got all the seasons on DVD, my favourite show ever. As has been discussed many times before

02-04-2009, 10:33 PM	#20
IC Champion They/Them Posts: 15,331	Who do you guys think was the best actor on the series?

02-04-2009, 11:09 PM	#21
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	Fav character was always Adebisi just because of his ridiculousness. Also always loved Schillinger... and Keller actually. Whatever, every character was amazing.

02-04-2009, 11:52 PM	#22
PapaGeorgio 2015 TPWW FANTASY CHAMP Posts: 4,861	I agree with AAA. Adebisi was amazing. The Schillinger/Beecher storlyline was AMAZING. I legit hated Keller, like he played the character so great and fucked over Beecher more than Schillinger in some ways. Like I am just now getting over what Keller did and semi able to watch SVU without some hate. I was also big fan of Kareem Saide too. So many great characters. Plus they'd have a bunch of good cameo type characters too. Least favorite is def the asian priest, always wanted to punch him in his stupid face.(Note his face being stupid has nothing to do with the fact he is asain, only a stupid face cause i hate him soooooo much)

02-05-2009, 12:32 AM	#23
Inadequacy I'm nauseous Posts: 1,994	It'd be nearly impossible for me to pick a favourite character. Luckily between the O'Reilly brothers, Beecher, White, Morales (just to name a few) I don't think I have to nor should I. But the best actor for me would be a toss up between Eamonn Walker and Harold Perrineau. Walker because he played Said perfectly and Perrineau because he practically carried the show. "Carried the show" might not be the correct phrase, but I think you know what I mean.

02-05-2009, 12:34 AM	#24
Inadequacy I'm nauseous Posts: 1,994	That needed to be posted

02-05-2009, 03:22 AM	#25
Boondock Saint Posts: 8,795	Jia Kenmin

02-05-2009, 03:23 AM	#26
Boondock Saint Posts: 8,795	Actually one of the characters I hated on the show (aka loved to hate) was Robson. But he got his comeuppance.

02-05-2009, 03:51 AM	#27
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	Yeah Robson was amazing as a pure evil sidekick to make Schillinger seem kinda good. Also love the shot of Schillinger playing pool whenever he was Up To No Good.

02-05-2009, 04:48 AM	#28
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Robson and his black gums

02-05-2009, 04:53 AM	#29
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Loads to choose from but probably Kirk Acevedo, from his relationship with Father Ray to his time in solitary and his battels with the other Hispanics.

02-05-2009, 11:39 AM	#30
Krimzon7 King of the Ring Posts: 8,848	loved the them song... HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAH!

02-05-2009, 02:40 PM	#31
Inadequacy I'm nauseous Posts: 1,994	I hated Robson at first, but the guy who played him was so awesome I've now come to like him. I think it was the way he said "strike fuckin two" when him and some other Aryan were killing the young muslim. It was priceless.

02-05-2009, 04:19 PM	#32
IC Champion They/Them Posts: 15,331	Eaamon Walker and Kirk Acevedo were both pretty awesome on the show. Why do people hate on the 5th and 6th seasons?