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Old 02-26-2009, 12:08 PM   #1
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Who do you actaully credit WCW for creating?
I mean everyone says Goldberg, but who else. I think we can also say Bigshow, DDP, and maybe even Sting depending on how you look at things.

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Old 02-26-2009, 12:15 PM   #2
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I would also add Chris Benoit, Eddie Gurrero, Chris Jericho, for starters. Let me really think about this one...
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:22 PM   #3
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They weren't stars in WCW, they were midcard guys.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:29 PM   #4
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:30 PM   #5
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Scott Steiner may be a stretch to add, but I'd say him as well.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:34 PM   #6
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They weren't stars in WCW, they were midcard guys.
Chris Benoit won the WCW Championship in WCW. Not quite a midcarder. Please don't say anything about David Arquette.

Jericho was on the verge of superstardom, and I will say that my favorite work from Jericho was in WCW, but he wasn't really catapulted into stardom until he jumped to the WWF. I would love to give WCW credit for seeing the potential in Jericho, but from the way he put things in his book, it just seemed like he was there and they could really care less.

I would definitely say DDP and Sting were stars made by WCW. Lex Luger maybe? Oh, and we can't forget Jerry Flynn.
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Luger spent the early part of the 90's in the WWF. I liked the gimmick of the Narcissus...


BDC You didn't ask how many ME'ers the WCW spit out, you asked about who they created... By that token, they made the three I mentioned. And as much as I hate to admit it they can be credited for that little shit Rey Maestrio
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:51 PM   #8
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I know, but Luger was in WCW before the WWF run, kinda sucked balls in WWF, then went back to WCW to marginal success. I consider Lex more of a WCW guy than anything.
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:47 PM   #9
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Luger spent the early part of the 90's in the WWF. I liked the gimmick of the Narcissus...


BDC You didn't ask how many ME'ers the WCW spit out, you asked about who they created... By that token, they made the three I mentioned. And as much as I hate to admit it they can be credited for that little shit Rey Maestrio
I meant stars.
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Old 02-26-2009, 02:17 PM   #10
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Old 02-26-2009, 03:06 PM   #11
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Sting became a star in the NWA. But yeah, Steiner, Booker, DDP, Goldberg, Big Show, Benoit, Jericho, and Mysterio.
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Old 02-26-2009, 03:34 PM   #12
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now i'm not saying stars

but i credit them for having one of the best
faction in industry ever

the nWo

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Old 02-26-2009, 04:47 PM   #13
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Chris Jericho created himself. He developed his character as a self preservation tactic in an environment where cruiserweights were a dime a dozen and people were getting hired and fired left and right. WCW never really did him any favours beyond the cruiser title and Rufus/the Jerichoholic Ninja.
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:49 PM   #14
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Old 02-26-2009, 05:39 PM   #15
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Old 02-26-2009, 05:42 PM   #16
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Also, some other things:

- regularly live television, and big event programming.
- high production quality.
- bigger matchups on television, rather than just jobber vs star format.
- a faster paced environment.
- monthly PPVs.

They also played a big part in the anti-face hero.

Gotta give them credit for nWo too
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:10 PM   #17
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:14 PM   #18
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WCW, but I don't credit WCW for getting him over, just as I don't credit the WWF for getting Vince over.
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Booker T, Sting, DDP, Big Show
Booker T got his start in GWF, the promotion that arose out of Dallas from the ashes of WCCW. He and his brother started off in the Ebony Experience. They went to WCW as Harlem Heat and became huge from there. yes.

Sting was one fourth of Powerteam USA, and was one of three people to survive the UWF being bought out by NWA/WCW unscathed. (rep if you guess the other survivors. Steve Williams isn't considered one of them.) He was decently over in UWF, feuding with the late "Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert. It was in NWA/WCW where his career took off, in an awesome match against Flair. Definitely yes.

He was in one of the early Wrestlemanias as the driver of Rhythm 'n Blues' caddy. He also worked AWA as a manager for the Bad Breed. He also was a manager for WCW, for the Freebirds (where he was too much like Michael Hayes), The Diamond Studd (Scott hall), and Vinnie Vegas (Kevin Nash). He then decided to try wrestling himself and it was a great move. I agree.

Big Show, as the Giant, wrestled his first match and won the WCW Heavyweight Title. So beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Scott Steiner is another one, as one half of the Steiners.
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Nobody back then went straight to the big leagues without establishing themselves in some of the lower wrestling organizations. WCW made Booker, Sting, and DDP the stars that the other companies never could have imagined.
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They weren't stars in WCW, they were midcard guys.
Well, Chris Benoit technically won the WCW Championship there. I could make the arguement that the work they did in WCW allowed them to successfully cross over to the WWE, but I think their entire careers sort of led to their WWE careers.

Chris Jericho is probably the one I'd make the biggest case in relation to WCW "making" him, if only because he was such a damn shining star in WCW.
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Old 02-27-2009, 05:57 AM   #33
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Yeah, I'd agree with this. And Stacy Keibler. WCW took those two bimbos, and for what they were, they were pretty successful.

Sting, DDP, Big Show, Scott Steiner and Booker T have all been presented as the obvious choices. But while they had successful careers in the WWE, I'm going to have to suggest Kevin Nash and Scott Hall as two. More so Nash. Not that he wasn't already a "star," but the nWo was a massive, massive thing. I knew who Kevin Nash was in 1999, and I started watching in 2001.

The nWo angle in WCW took Kevin Nash and Scott Hall to heights they would never experience anywhere else. I'm sure people will argue with me because they weren't jobbers anywhere else, but I don't care. If anything, I am crediting the success they had in WCW.

Also, while people might like to make fun of him a lot -- WCW did make Rey Mysterio, in my opinion. Like him or not, he's a former World Champion, Royal Rumble winner, and is a massive mover of merchandise.

On smaller scales, Finlay, Hurricane Helms, Chavo Guerrero and Jamie Noble have had impressive stays in the WWE, probably due to their WCW work. Finlay earns two paychecks, and often works in the main event; The Hurricane was a very popular character at one stage; Chavo Guerrero is a former ECW Champion; and Jamie Noble was working as a road agent (at least for a while, not sure if he still is). They're not "stars," but I think WCW was very incredibly important to them staying as relevant as they have been.
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Old 02-27-2009, 06:03 AM   #34
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Keep in mind that those last four guys I listed I meant in relative terms. I just think they really benefitted from their WCW careers, instead of having the life sucked out of them.
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WCW always seemed more likely to do more with Jarrett
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Jarrett is a good one, actually.
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Old 02-27-2009, 10:18 AM   #37
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How Jarrett became so successful, I'll never know.
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Jarrett is a whore. He bounced from promotion to promotion. I don't really count him as a star. He has no drawing power, look at TNA.
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BDC is right. He was an aboslute whore, his gimmick was to copy Flair/Honkey Tonk/Austin(although to a lesser extent).
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