College Football Post

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-08-2003, 02:40 PM

Heres a list of all the bowl games

BCS

SUGAR BOWL
New Orleans Jan. 4, 8 p.m. (ABC) Oklahoma vs. Louisiana State
Last year: Georgia 26, Florida State 13
FIESTA BOWL
Tempe, Ariz. Jan. 2, 8 p.m. (ABC) Kansas State vs. Ohio State
Last year: Ohio State 31, Miami 24 (2OT)
ROSE BOWL
Pasadena, Calif. Jan. 1, 5 p.m. (ABC) Southern California vs. Michigan
Last year: Oklahoma 34, Washington St. 14
ORANGE BOWL
Miami Jan. 1, 8:30 p.m. (ABC) Florida State vs. Miami (Fla.)
Last year: USC 38, Iowa 17

The Rest

NEW ORLEANS BOWL
New Orleans Dec. 16, 7 p.m. (ESPN2) North Texas vs. Memphis
Last year: North Texas 24, Cincinnati 19
GMAC BOWL
Mobile, Ala. Dec. 18, 8 p.m. (ESPN2) Miami (Ohio) vs. Louisville
Last year: Marshall 38, Louisville 15
TANGERINE BOWL
Orlando Dec. 22, 5:30 p.m. (ESPN) North Carolina State vs. Kansas
Last year: Texas Tech 55, Clemson 15
FORT WORTH BOWL
Fort Worth, Texas Dec. 23, 7:30 p.m. (ESPN) Boise State vs. Texas Christian
LAS VEGAS BOWL
Las Vegas Dec. 24, 7:30 p.m. (ESPN) New Mexico vs. Oregon State
Last year: UCLA 27, New Mexico 13
HAWAII BOWL
Honolulu Dec. 25, 8 p.m. (ESPN) Hawaii vs. Houston
Last year: Tulane 36, Hawaii 28
MOTOR CITY BOWL
Detroit, Mich. Dec. 26, 5 p.m. (ESPN) Bowling Green vs. Northwestern
Last year: Boston College 51, Toledo 25
INSIGHT BOWL
Phoenix Dec. 26, 8:30 p.m. (ESPN) Virginia Tech vs. California
Last year: Pittsburgh 38, Oregon State 13
CONTINENTAL TIRE BOWL
Charlotte, N.C. Dec. 27, 11 a.m. (ESPN) Virginia vs. Pittsburgh
Last year: Virginia 48, West Virginia 22
ALAMO BOWL
San Antonio Dec. 29, 9 p.m. (ESPN) Michigan State vs. Nebraska
Last year: Wisconsin 31, Colorado 28 (OT)
HOUSTON BOWL
Houston Dec. 30, 4:30 p.m. (ESPN) Texas Tech vs. Navy
Last year: Oklahoma St. 33, Sou. Miss 23
SILICON VALLEY CLASSIC
San Jose, Calif. Dec. 30, 7:30 p.m. (ESPN2) Fresno State vs. UCLA
Last year: Fresno State 30, Georgia Tech 21
HOLIDAY BOWL
San Diego Dec. 30, 8 p.m. (ESPN) Washington State vs. Texas
Last year: Kansas St. 34, Arizona St. 27
MUSIC CITY BOWL
Nashville, Tenn. Dec. 31, Noon (ESPN) Auburn vs. Wisconsin
Last year: Minnesota 29, Arkansas 14
SUN BOWL
El Paso, Texas Dec. 31, 2 p.m. (CBS) Oregon vs. Minnesota
Last year: Purdue 34, Washington 24
LIBERTY BOWL
Memphis Dec. 31, 3:30 p.m. (ESPN) Southern Mississippi vs. Utah
Last year: TCU 17, Colorado State 3
INDEPENDENCE BOWL
Shreveport, La. Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m. (ESPN) Arkansas vs. Missouri
Last year: Ole Miss 27, Nebraska 23
SAN FRANCISCO BOWL
San Francisco Dec. 31, 10:30 p.m. (ESPN2) Colorado State vs. Boston College
Last year: Virginia Tech 20, Air Force 13
OUTBACK BOWL
Tampa, Fla. Jan. 1, 11 a.m. (ESPN) Iowa vs. Florida
Last year: Michigan 38, Florida 30
GATOR BOWL
Jacksonville, Fla. Jan. 1, 12:30 p.m. (NBC) Maryland vs. West Virginia
Last year: N.C. State 28, Notre Dame 6
CAPITAL ONE BOWL
Orlando, Fla. Jan. 1, 2003, 1 p.m. (ABC) Georgia vs. Purdue
Last year: Auburn 13, Penn State 9
COTTON BOWL
Dallas Jan. 2, 2 p.m. (FOX) Oklahoma State vs. Mississippi
Last year: Texas 35, LSU 20
PEACH BOWL
Atlanta Jan. 2, 4:30 p.m. (ESPN) Clemson vs. Tennessee
Last year: Maryland 30, Tennessee 3
HUMANITARIAN BOWL
Boise Jan. 3, 2 p.m. (ESPN) Tulsa vs. Georgia Tech
Last year: Boise State 34, Iowa State 16

credit: cbssportsline.com

Looks like a few good games, wish Miami was playing Ohio State again though

I think that would be a good game.

FSU vs Miami AGAIN is dumb, they are playing 3 times in 11 months when they play again to open the season next year.

Boston College is taking on Colorado State...Hopefully they can pull it out and defeat Mullet Boy Bradley Van Pelt.

**The Miz** · 12-08-2003, 02:45 PM

can someone explain to me why a team that doesn't win their own conference gets to play in the national championship, and why the #1 team in the country doesn't?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-08-2003, 03:09 PM

I DUNNO

I mean, Oklahoma and USC both had one leauge loss

USC lost to Cal

Oklahoma lost to Kansas St

Oklahoma loss just happened to be in the Big 12 Championship game, while USCs was earlier on in the season.

Kansas St is a top 10 team, and Cal isn't even ranked. Also Oklahoma defeated more top 25 teams then USC did. Big 12 = Stronger then Pac 10 aswell.

I think people are also forgetting the whooping Oklahoma laid on Texas, you know, like the #6 team in the country? Oklahoma played like shit againest K State, and Kansas State played awesome. I think if Roberson didnt get hurt earlier on in the season Kansas State would be in the National Title picture.

That all being said, Oklahoma not even winning their own conference and having a chance to win the National Title is a ****ed up.

If USC got in, I wouldn't have been pissed, I think Okla, USC, and LSU all deserved to be in the game. But only 2 teams can be in it.

**Bad Guy** · 12-08-2003, 04:08 PM

Michigan Wolverines.

**loopydate** · 12-08-2003, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34

I DUNNO

I mean, Oklahoma and USC both had one leauge loss

USC lost to Cal

Oklahoma lost to Kansas St

Oklahoma loss just happened to be in the Big 12 Championship game, while USCs was earlier on in the season.

Kansas St is a top 10 team, and Cal isn't even ranked. Also Oklahoma defeated more top 25 teams then USC did. Big 12 = Stronger then Pac 10 aswell.

I think people are also forgetting the whooping Oklahoma laid on Texas, you know, like the #6 team in the country? Oklahoma played like shit againest K State, and Kansas State played awesome. I think if Roberson didnt get hurt earlier on in the season Kansas State would be in the National Title picture.

That all being said, Oklahoma not even winning their own conference and having a chance to win the National Title is a ****ed up.

If USC got in, I wouldn't have been pissed, I think Okla, USC, and LSU all deserved to be in the game. But only 2 teams can be in it.

Sure, Cal was unranked, but wasn't that an overtime game? I'd rather pick the team whose one loss (to a bad team) went down to the wire than the team who got absolutely thumped (by a good team).

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-08-2003, 05:16 PM

eh, like I said any of the 3 are deserving of the shot IMO

**The Outlaw** · 12-08-2003, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by loopydate

Sure, Cal was unranked, but wasn't that an overtime game? I'd rather pick the team whose one loss (to a bad team) went down to the wire than the team who got absolutely thumped (by a good team).

I agree with what stima said. They all deserve it, but it just irks a lot of people that OU can play for it when they aren't the best team in their conference. I said earlier that if Roberson wouldnt have got injured, they would definately be in the National Title picture.

It's all ****ed up. One team wasn't going to get fair treatment, and it just happened to be USC.

I have the utmost respect for Saban and Caroll (sp?). They handled the situation with some class. The OU coach that spoke on it (wasn't stoops, cant remember his name somebody help me out...it was in the other thread at the old boards) said they deserved to be in it no matter what which I feel like is bullshit. I mean OU lost and they STAYED at #1.

It's all messed up though. Watch OU now win and piss me off.

**CNM** · 12-08-2003, 07:03 PM

Brad Van Pelt is gonna run wild on BC

**el fregadero** · 12-08-2003, 07:08 PM

Florida State will own Miami.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-08-2003, 07:11 PM

I hope somebody pulls him down by the mullet

Who is winning the Heisman? I'm thinking Chris Perry.

I thought it was going to be White, but with that loss to K State I dunno.

Another whole thing about the BCS or whatever, if USC wins, they get a share of the title. So its not ALL bad atleast. Im hoping Michigan beats them though.

**CNM** · 12-08-2003, 07:16 PM

From what I've heard, White is still going to win the Heisman. Apparently, a lot of voters mailed in their choice before the Big 12 Championship Game.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-08-2003, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el fregadero

Florida State will own Miami.

lol

**el fregadero** · 12-08-2003, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34

lol

**The Miz** · 12-08-2003, 08:17 PM

WTF where is washington? :confused:

**Bad Guy** · 12-08-2003, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travis

washington

who...? :confused:

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 12-08-2003, 08:35 PM

I think its stupid that LSU and USC both get home games. How is that fair

**Crimson** · 12-08-2003, 11:55 PM

College basketball >>>>> College football.

I hope USC and LSU/Oklahoma share the national championship. How ridiculous is it when there is no true national champ.

**The Outlaw** · 12-09-2003, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson

College basketball >>>>> College football.

I hope USC and LSU/Oklahoma share the national championship. How ridiculous is it when there is no true national champ.

I will **** you up.

**Bad Guy** · 12-09-2003, 12:08 AM

I'd agree that USC should get a split, but since it's against my team, I hope they don't get it.

**lariat** · 12-09-2003, 07:51 AM

The kicker in this entire thing is at the beginning of the season Kansas State beat California at the beginning of the season.

**The Outlaw** · 12-09-2003, 11:38 PM

Was it at the beginning of the season?

12-09-2003, 11:38 PM	#21
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Was it at the beginning of the season? Last edited by The Outlaw; 07-17-2006 at 06:31 PM.

12-08-2003, 02:45 PM	#2
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	can someone explain to me why a team that doesn't win their own conference gets to play in the national championship, and why the #1 team in the country doesn't?

12-08-2003, 04:08 PM	#4
Bad Guy TPWW VET Posts: 10,837	Michigan Wolverines.

12-08-2003, 07:03 PM	#8
CNM Posts: 2,540	Brad Van Pelt is gonna run wild on BC

12-08-2003, 07:08 PM	#9
el fregadero Tap-In Posts: 20,300	Florida State will own Miami.

12-08-2003, 07:11 PM	#10
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I hope somebody pulls him down by the mullet Who is winning the Heisman? I'm thinking Chris Perry. I thought it was going to be White, but with that loss to K State I dunno. Another whole thing about the BCS or whatever, if USC wins, they get a share of the title. So its not ALL bad atleast. Im hoping Michigan beats them though.

12-08-2003, 07:16 PM	#11
CNM Posts: 2,540	From what I've heard, White is still going to win the Heisman. Apparently, a lot of voters mailed in their choice before the Big 12 Championship Game.

12-08-2003, 08:17 PM	#14
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	WTF where is washington? :confused:

12-08-2003, 08:35 PM	#16
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,754	I think its stupid that LSU and USC both get home games. How is that fair

12-08-2003, 11:55 PM	#17
Crimson Posts: 6,108	College basketball >>>>> College football. I hope USC and LSU/Oklahoma share the national championship. How ridiculous is it when there is no true national champ.

12-09-2003, 12:08 AM	#19
Bad Guy TPWW VET Posts: 10,837	I'd agree that USC should get a split, but since it's against my team, I hope they don't get it.

12-09-2003, 07:51 AM	#20
lariat You Sunk My Battleship Posts: 32	The kicker in this entire thing is at the beginning of the season Kansas State beat California at the beginning of the season.