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Ultimo Dragon 35 50.72%
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Old 06-27-2009, 12:52 AM   #1
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Better Wrestler #83
Ultimo Dragon gallops past a member of the Horsemen, and moves onto the fourth round. Before he can enter the territory of BW legends, he will have to defeat a Legend Killer.







Ultimo Dragon


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Randy Orton



3 days.











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Old 06-27-2009, 12:55 AM   #2
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I'm a Randy Orton fan, but as much as it pains me, I have to go with Ultimo Dragon. Using the criteria I used in Ultimo's first BW match, there aren't many guys I'd vote for over him.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:29 AM   #3
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I had to vote for the clearly superior athlete here, Randal Keith Orton.
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:38 AM   #4
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randy is clearly on top of the wrestling world right now...but ultimo has a way longer track record, which makes ultimo the winner in my eyes
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Old 06-27-2009, 04:50 AM   #5
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:22 AM   #6
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Ultimo Dragon easily in fact I'd even say this is less of a contest in my mind then Ultimo vs Goldust.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:30 AM   #7
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Ultimo.

Now I know that Orton is the better over all wrestler, a more complete package, but if you were asking me which wrestler I'd rather see in a high profile match, it'd be Ultimo.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:37 AM   #8
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Ultimo.

Now I know that Orton is the better over all wrestler, a more complete package, but if you were asking me which wrestler I'd rather see in a high profile match, it'd be Ultimo.
I actually don't see how Orton is a better wrestler at all or a complete package in any sense. The only thing he has on Ultimo is that he speaks English and thus is obviously more marketable to American audiences, but otherwise Orton probably has the most boring and bare move set out of any of the current main eventers and his mic skills are and have always been lacking.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:51 AM   #9
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Orton. Dragon is possibly the better worker but Orton destroys him on just about every other single level. Don't get this 'Orton is boring on the mic' stuff. Just because somebody doesn't spout catchphrases doesn't make them boring. His promo delivery is perfect for his character. Orton seems to be underrated by a sizable portion of the IWC yet is one of the most highly respected by the actual business itself. He's accomplished way more and is miles ahead in terms of being the complete package. Dragon doesn't really come close for me.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:59 AM   #10
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^ That. Dragon is a fantastic worker, but Randy is decent to fantastic in most every aspect. As has been said, he's pretty much one of those 'complete package' kinda guys.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:21 AM   #11
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^ That. Dragon is a fantastic worker, but Randy is decent to fantastic in most every aspect. As has been said, he's pretty much one of those 'complete package' kinda guys.
I simply cannot agree with this at all when I think full package I think of someone like Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, or Kurt Angle guys who excel in charisma, mic skills, and above all else wrestling skills.

I don't think Orton excels in any of those fields in fact I think he is mediocre in all three of them and nowhere near the top of the list on any field. To date he has proven that he can really only play one character well and that is a vicious heel yet the booking has to be absolutely perfect for him to shine even with that one character. His moveset is to this day extremely generic just including a DDT, dropkick, and a rare suplex sprinkled in with the ever boring chinlock and a cutter and a punt serving as his finishers. His mic skills are as bland as they have always been sure the monotone way of speaking and the lack of any sort of excitement in his voice might fit the character to some extent but a more natural promo delivery similar to Jake The Snake would fit much better and wouldn't be as painful to listen to. Honestly I see no reason for Orton to gather praise for anything he does, and while I wouldn't go as far as to say that he is horrible I would say that he doesn't deserve to be even mentioned in the same breath as Ultimo Dragon who innovated countless moves and has been one of the major reasons for the popularity of junior wrestling alongside Dynamite Kid, Tiger Mask 1 and Jushin Liger.
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:50 PM   #12
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I think Orton does have all of the tools, but I don't think he's quite there yet. It's not all his fault. He's been booked inconsistently over the years (part of this is due to the big change in demographic; it is no longer as common for the heel to one-up the face) so that hurts him. In the ring he's good, but his lack of chemistry with HHH proves that he still has a long way to go before he can really be one of The Greats.
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Old 06-27-2009, 06:10 PM   #13
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Got to go with Orton, he has been a WWE main-eventer since he was 24, that takes skill. He has now held 5 world titles and is just reaching his prime.

Orton > Ultimo
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Old 06-27-2009, 07:00 PM   #14
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Randy Orton is fucking horrible, and has been clinging on to his daddy and the Evolution angle.
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Old 06-27-2009, 07:13 PM   #15
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Orton is by far the better package. No idea why there is any hate for Orton, or why he is even losing. THis should be a easy choice.
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Old 06-27-2009, 07:52 PM   #16
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Orton is terrible he did have good ability when he was younger. But WM25 showed how much of a pompus ass he really is.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:38 PM   #17
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I will not bother to read the prior posts, because there is simply no argument. Randy Fuckin Orton. This guy is a goddamn main eventer, he has been a part of two kick ass stables.

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Old 06-27-2009, 08:40 PM   #18
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:18 AM   #19
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:38 AM   #20
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Orton.

I haven't seen enough Dragon, wheras I've watched Orton for the last seven years now.
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:31 PM   #21
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Dragon, for this reason.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:08 PM   #22
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Now post one of Orton holding a World Heavyweight Title (either of the two) that says, "Realize that Ultimo never was this good."

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I'm considering voting for Orton. Ultimo is the better wrestler, and works the better match, but Randy Orton in 2004 was one of my favorite years for a wrestler.
Despite appreciating Ultimo's in ring skills, I never was into his character or career path as I was Orton's.
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:45 AM   #25
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Orton, as much as I like Ultimo, Orton is 'better'!
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:07 AM   #26
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Orton will never have the influence on the wrestling world that Ultimo has.

Ultimo is essentially responsible for an entire style of wrestling.
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:11 AM   #27
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I'm considering voting for Orton. Ultimo is the better wrestler, and works the better match, but Randy Orton in 2004 was one of my favorite years for a wrestler.
Despite appreciating Ultimo's in ring skills, I never was into his character or career path as I was Orton's.
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I'm a big fan of Ultimo Dragon's work but Randy Orton for me is the more complete 'wrestler' from my own overall point of view.
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:14 AM   #32
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The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Mackem got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
A little suprised by a current star going down to Dragon.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:38 PM   #34
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Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Loose Cannon got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
nooooooo, what time did this close

I probably would of voted Dragon, but right now, I would of went Orton just to Shake things up
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:31 PM   #35
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Shocked that this went to Dragon. Damn it.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:01 PM   #36
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Dragon deserved it, Orton hasn't influence a generation. Being a 5 time champ don't mean nothing these days, that belt get pass around ALL THE TIME. Orton is one of those guys that can't make it outside the WWE. Put him in TNA,AAA,Japan,etc. he would be completely lame and probably in the midcard after a year.
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