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Old 07-12-2009, 02:52 PM   #1
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What the hell, already.
I just caught Smackdown. What the fuck was with those chair shots? We show the wind-up, cut to the crowd and hear the impact, then cut back to the ring for the result? I can tolerate the "clean language" and the "no blood", regardless of the fact that such policies are inappropriate. But not letting us see the chair shots now? I'm on my way to getting really fed up with Linda being on the Board of Education.




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Old 07-12-2009, 02:57 PM   #2
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Which chair shots do you speak of?
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:01 PM   #3
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It doesn't make much sense... from the perspective of Linda McMahon. The chair shot is still featured in the match and even if it is not directly shown on screen, the use of a foreign object could still be portrayed at extreme violence by the groups and individuals who the WWE are currently trying to appease with their toned-down product.

They need to decide where they want to be. Either choose to present a PG rated show and cut all offensive content, including the use or intended use of violence and sex, or revert back to their stance of the late 90's. The middle ground is pleasing no-one as the fans want to see violence and are almost being teased by it's covert presence, while the pressure groups won't be satisfied until it's just headlocks and suplexes.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:01 PM   #4
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Kane vs. Khali.

Even in the replays, instead of cutting to the crowd, they got almost to the chair impacts and then freeze framed, like they do for post-ppv advertisements.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:03 PM   #5
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It doesn't make much sense... from the perspective of Linda McMahon. The chair shot is still featured in the match and even if it is not directly shown on screen, the use of a foreign object could still be portrayed at extreme violence by the groups and individuals who the WWE are currently trying to appease with their toned-down product.

They need to decide where they want to be. Either choose to present a PG rated show and cut all offensive content, including the use or intended use of violence and sex, or revert back to their stance of the late 90's. The middle ground is pleasing no-one as the fans want to see violence and are almost being teased by it's covert presence, while the pressure groups won't be satisfied until it's just headlocks and suplexes.

Pressure groups never made them any money. I say give the fans what they want before they don't want anything.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:14 PM   #6
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lol what? I remember they used to do this on the 10am showing of Smackdown on a Saturday morning 'cause that's when mainly kids watched but they're doing this for prime time showings now?
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:18 PM   #7
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I remember seeing something similar a little while back when I was watching an early international feed of SmackDown, back when Edge was tormenting Vickie and Chavo and going apeshit. They showed Chavo getting set up for the one man con-chair-to but cut away right before impact to showing Vickie shrieking and you heard the chair impact. After the impact, they cut back to dead Chavo and Edge's crazy eyes look.

If they're doing it States-side now, though, it's pretty lame. It's not like kids in the audience didn't see it live. If you're going to do cutaways, you might as well just cut out the chairshots altogether.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:24 PM   #8
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If they're doing it States-side now, though, it's pretty lame. It's not like kids in the audience didn't see it live. If you're going to do cutaways, you might as well just cut out the chairshots altogether.
Exactly. If the intention and consequence of the act are still shown, why is it necessary to not show the act itself? The ear-cutting scene of Reservoir Dogs was just as tense and gory, and still received an equal amount of criticism.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:37 PM   #9
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I hope Vince and Linda either retire or passes on their positions in WWE soon so that way either Shane or Stephanie can try to give the product a boost, at least back to 'R' or so...WWE could really benefit from a new 'Attitude' era...but as long as Vince is still in charge, as well as Linda, we'll have two fifty or sixty-something people in charge of a product which they no longer understand how to market as they did in the mid 90s-early (Jan. or so, roughly) '02. IMHO.
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Old 07-12-2009, 04:41 PM   #10
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They need to decide where they want to be. Either choose to present a PG rated show and cut all offensive content, including the use or intended use of violence and sex, or revert back to their stance of the late 90's. The middle ground is pleasing no-one as the fans want to see violence and are almost being teased by it's covert presence, while the pressure groups won't be satisfied until it's just headlocks and suplexes.
YES.

I hate this whole "We're family friendly, only not" shit. The above chair shots thing is a good example. You don't want to show that kind of extreme violence? Don't. That's fine. but don't "kind of" show it.
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:32 PM   #11
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What if the chair shot was completely botched and they just did that in editing? I know they've edited things on Smackdown before. Once Edge was going to get chokeslammed by the Undetaker then he was wearing completely different pants for a second, then he was back to his original. i want to find a video of that. I know it's in a Botchamania, but I'm not going through older ones to find it.

I doubt it was botched, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did that. I'm not a dan of this new PG shit, but doing this is pretty stupid.
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:33 PM   #12
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They used to do this shit in USWA programming, btw.
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Old 07-12-2009, 07:03 PM   #13
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What if the chair shot was completely botched and they just did that in editing? I know they've edited things on Smackdown before. Once Edge was going to get chokeslammed by the Undetaker then he was wearing completely different pants for a second, then he was back to his original. i want to find a video of that. I know it's in a Botchamania, but I'm not going through older ones to find it.

I doubt it was botched, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did that. I'm not a dan of this new PG shit, but doing this is pretty stupid.

Three chair shots in a row, tho? One hit Khali (shoulder or head, not sure which). Kane swung again, and Khali punched it away. Then Khali, swung and hit Kane in the shoulder, causing Kane to bail. I don't see how all three of those could have been "botched".
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I did not know there were three chair shots.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:03 PM   #15
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Linda has always avoided violence:
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I'm sure they showed the chair shots on the late night showing here in the UK, but i didn't take much notice.
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Why is Linda trying to get on the school board anyways? It's not like her kids are still in school.
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I see what ya did there, using "avoided" as a double-entendre...but she hasn't always been so lucky...she was a victim of Kane tombstoning her on the top of the RAW ramp several years back:
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Power, status, progession on to bigger things probably but I'd imagine she has an interest in education and will be connected to schools and universities.
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Yeah they've always done this on the non-late night WWE shows over here.
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Stepping stone.
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I remember WCW doing that, and always thought as far as censoring goes, even though it's cheesy etc, it's actually better than showing the crowd or freezing the frame because at least you still see that weapon attack. Really it was only the weapon on body impact that was covered.
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First female President. She can come out to the Wrestlemania theme music before cutting a promo on Canada.
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:32 PM   #28
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lol found it, some idiot filmed it on a mobile phone
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:03 PM   #29
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I cam so imagine that being a staple of Chikara.
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:39 PM   #30
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I'm pretty sure they showed the chairshots during the replay. I distinctly remember seeing Khali punch the chair away, at the very least.
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:45 PM   #31
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I'm pretty sure they showed the chairshots during the replay. I distinctly remember seeing Khali punch the chair away, at the very least.
He swung, action-blurred freezeframe a foot from the chair, and during the freezeframe, you hear the contact. All three replays were like that.
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:47 PM   #32
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AL, I'm sure the edit had something to do with the fact that you watched it on Hulu. I watched SD last night on my DVR and the chair shots were visible.
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Juan's probably right. I'll go back in a bit, but Hulu probably gets the overseas edits or some shit.
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AL, I'm sure the edit had something to do with the fact that you watched it on Hulu. I watched SD last night on my DVR and the chair shots were visible.
QFT. I taped it Friday night from TV and watched it yesterday.
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AL, I'm sure the edit had something to do with the fact that you watched it on Hulu. I watched SD last night on my DVR and the chair shots were visible.
That's actually very good to hear.
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Not gonna happen. You've seen her talk. You need to be charismatic to be President.
Yeah, you're right, she doesn't take the stunner very well either.
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