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Old 08-06-2009, 10:54 AM   #1
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2nd Title for ECW
Just want to get thoughts on adding a second title to ECW. maybe bringing back the ECW television title or something like that.

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Old 08-06-2009, 10:55 AM   #2
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I would go for the ECW TV Title, but I don't think that there are enough people on the roster.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:31 AM   #3
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THey dont have time to book that into the show. Fuck, the ECW title isnt featured on every PPV or show, so how would they work in another title?
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:44 AM   #4
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I was thinking of a title they can push more for the actual shows. The ECW title is good for the PPV
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:11 PM   #5
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I actually agree that it would not be a bad idea. ECW has a lot of new guys, and there are pretty much two tiers on ECW -- the ECW Title contenders, and those that are not ECW Title contenders. Why not give the guys who aren't ECW Title contenders a title?

The ECW Television Title would probably currently be around the waist of Sheamus or Zack Ryder, or something, and be lending them credibility. I think that having a second title would also make the ECW Title look a little better by default, just because there would be actual depth on the show.

Currently there is nothing else for a guy to do on ECW. By having a secondary title, you can keep the ECW Title away from certain people, and then guys like Ryder have something to their name when they jump over to RAW or SmackDown!.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:04 PM   #6
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Also given the fact that it would be the "television" title it would give the guys that we see on television something to look forward too b/c they don't have any appearences on PPV
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Too small a roster I think - though if it was a TV title it could be a good idea
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The WWE does not need another title. I'd rather see the tag champs compete over there for awhile or even one of the women challenge for a championship. Booking the show without a title isn't as challenging as it seems. Guys don't stay on ECW that long before they get shipped to Raw or SD. If you look at who is winning the ECW title it's established stars, not the up-and-comers. This would be a "Congratulations, you've made it to the WWE, now you're going to Smackdown" belt.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:32 PM   #9
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No way, another title on ECW would be so meaningless. If there were to do any type of title a "Beat the Champ" type title could be cool. More of a number one contendership/MITB type title. The GM decides who is to compete for the title maybe in a four way. The winner then can use his shot any time he wishes. Once he uses the shot win or lose the Beat The Champ title is vacant and another four way match must decided the holder of the title.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:05 PM   #10
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It'd be better for the brand if other champions (Women's, Tag) challenged people on ECW, as thedamndest suggested. It would give the guys who aren't in the ECW title hunt a chance to build their credibility before being promoted to RAW or SD.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:11 PM   #11
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I say bring back either the Hardcore or the Crusierweight title.

Hardcore because its ECW and you can have extreme rules matches and can bring back the 24/7 rule to keep the show moving.

Or the Crusierweight title, because you have plenty of lightweights on the undercard that could benefit from switching brands and fighting for something meaningful.
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:20 AM   #12
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I say push the show to at least an hour and a half, and then let's talk about adding a second title. I would like to see the Hardcore Championship make it's return. It would be the most logical belt to bring to ECW and then probably the TV title.
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:27 AM   #13
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They have like 4 wrestlers. Half the ECW roster would be champions.
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:35 AM   #14
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I will never get it. Who wants to be a champion of tv?
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:38 AM   #15
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The TV Champion, at least in WCW, defended his title at every TV taping, so I would only want the TV title back if it was defended on Raw, ECW, Superstars and Smackdown.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:23 AM   #16
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I would get behind a 2nd ECW title when they get a 2nd ECW hour.
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:43 PM   #17
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I really hope they don't give ECW a second hour. It would defeat the purpose of it becoming the new guy show and it would just get bogged down with crappy storylines. Best to keep it as streamlined as possible.
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:45 PM   #19
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You have an ECW roster with 6 people and you want a second title? Why?
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I could see the argument a second title...but the way ECW is structured right now it seems to be you have a few token guys who are on every week (Christian, Dreamer) and the rest of the roster seems to alternate and be on every other week (well, except for DJ Gabriel, who I'm shocked hasn't been future endeavor'd yet).

For a new title to be effective, its champion would also need to make an appearance every week, which will cost some guys the little available airtime there is. Plus you have the Abraham Washington Show on an almost weekly basis as well.

If they were to get a second title going on ECW, I'd say just have Show and Jericho feud with a couple of ECW guys (they could win a tri-branded tag team battle royal for #1 contendership, or something). If nothing else it would get the two guys over as they'd probably get booked on Raw and SD in the meantime, plus Jericho and Show would get to appear on ECW to briefly beek up its ranks. I dunno.
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It honestly sickens me that the flailing disaster that is The Abraham Washington Show is becoming a weekly event, when a wrestling match could take place then, instead. THe only thing I'd LIKE to see on that segment is Abe's guest being DJ Gabriel. If Abe laid into him for being "so bad" that he'd been kept off tv for three months, then have DJ get in his face and offer to (excuse the phrase) prove him wrong... Well, then at least the segment would offer something potentially productive, instead of damn singing competition and smurf jokes.
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Yeah, that's what we need. ANOTHER fucking title.
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Yeah, that's what we need. ANOTHER fucking title.
In ECW we have the ECW Title. That is it.
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Christian
DJ Gabriel
Ezekiel Jackson
Goldust
Gregory Helms/The Hurricane
Paul Burchill
Sheamus
Shelton Benjamin
Tommy Dreamer
Tyler Reks
Vladimir Kozlov
Yoshi Tatsu
Zack Ryder

I could see the argument a second title...but the way ECW is structured right now it seems to be you have a few token guys who are on every week (Christian, Dreamer) and the rest of the roster seems to alternate and be on every other week (well, except for DJ Gabriel, who I'm shocked hasn't been future endeavor'd yet).

For a new title to be effective, its champion would also need to make an appearance every week, which will cost some guys the little available airtime there is. Plus you have the Abraham Washington Show on an almost weekly basis as well.

If they were to get a second title going on ECW, I'd say just have Show and Jericho feud with a couple of ECW guys (they could win a tri-branded tag team battle royal for #1 contendership, or something). If nothing else it would get the two guys over as they'd probably get booked on Raw and SD in the meantime, plus Jericho and Show would get to appear on ECW to briefly beek up its ranks. I dunno.
How many of those men are reputable enough to be in the ECW Title hunt? Christian, Shelton Benjamin, Tommy Dreamer, Vladimir Kozlov and William Regal? There is a noticeable gap between them and the other guys. It seems Sheamus and Ezekiel Jackson are being groomed for big things in ECW, but they're not quite there yet. Goldust and The Hurricane are both veterans, but lack the immediate credibility.

What are Ezekiel Jackson (for now), Gabriel, Goldust, The Hurricane, Paul Burchill, Sheamus (for now), Tyler Reks and Yoshi Tatsu fighting for?
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Having guys like Yoshi and Sheamus or other guys who are fresh out of development who have been there for two or three weeks battle over a new title would be pretty meaningless. There are plenty of other ways to get a guy over.
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How many of those men are reputable enough to be in the ECW Title hunt? Christian, Shelton Benjamin, Tommy Dreamer, Vladimir Kozlov and William Regal? There is a noticeable gap between them and the other guys. It seems Sheamus and Ezekiel Jackson are being groomed for big things in ECW, but they're not quite there yet. Goldust and The Hurricane are both veterans, but lack the immediate credibility.

What are Ezekiel Jackson (for now), Gabriel, Goldust, The Hurricane, Paul Burchill, Sheamus (for now), Tyler Reks and Yoshi Tatsu fighting for?
The right to party!

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How many of those men are reputable enough to be in the ECW Title hunt? Christian, Shelton Benjamin, Tommy Dreamer, Vladimir Kozlov and William Regal? There is a noticeable gap between them and the other guys. It seems Sheamus and Ezekiel Jackson are being groomed for big things in ECW, but they're not quite there yet. Goldust and The Hurricane are both veterans, but lack the immediate credibility.

What are Ezekiel Jackson (for now), Gabriel, Goldust, The Hurricane, Paul Burchill, Sheamus (for now), Tyler Reks and Yoshi Tatsu fighting for?
While I get where you are coming from, it just wouldn't make sense to me to add another title at this stage. Look at it this way, if the ECW Title is viewed as being on the same level of the other two show's secondary titles (IC and US), what would the secondary title for ECW be on the same level as? The Women's/Divas Title? I just don't think an extra title for ECW would mean anything or really help out resumes at all in the long run.

Like I said though, if they wanted to get some more ECW guys into a title picture, they always have the Undisputed Tag belts to fall back on, which would certainly look better on a resume than an ECW TV Title reign.

I could very easily see this Vladimir Kozlov/Ezekiel Jackson one-upsmanship storyline turning into a respectful alliance. You know Vince loves his hosses, it wouldn't be past him to have Vlad and Zeke on all three shows as the tag champs just destroying people. It could bring credibility to ECW that a title that can float between all three brands is being held by two ECW guys.

Likewise, if they wanted a babyface team, they could easily get a couple of guys over by having them win a tri-branded number one contender battle royal for the belts, or something. Imagine if Goldust and The Hurricane had a brief feud with Jericho and Big Show? That would make for some funny promos I think.
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:48 PM   #28
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If ECW was 90 minutes, it would be great. If defended every week on the show.

A 3 month run as TV champ would give anybody a decent rub and set them on the way. Also give someone a chance, who wouldn't always be on TV, to get that time every week to work a recurring character trait, or build a fued, just work the mic and get his character over with vitually guarenteed weekly TV time.

It could become an important initial rub to anybody, because it would take a decent all-rounder to get over with that much responsibility.
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I've seen a lot of people saying the Hardcore Title should be brought back. Not just here, but in The Vault as well. I don't understand the reasoning behind this. The 24/7 rule was funny for awhile, but it wore out its welcome pretty quick. You'd be watching a match and then all of the sudden here comes Crash Holly to take the belt away. Then five more guys chase him down. And that was the belt's sole purpose. It wasn't really an accomplishment. It was like playing king of the mountain. Some of the actual matches were good. But now we don't have guys like Raven, Saturn, Blackman, Al Snow, etc. And it's the PG era. How good could that division be?
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The Hardcore Division wouldn't have to be about the 24/7 rule.

If they did it the way that ECW implemented their hardcore rules it could be amazing. The weapons and lack of rules would assist the matches as opposed to become the match. No more going under the ring and throwing out 5-6 weapons, hitting each other with them and then finishing. Maybe one chair is used during an entire match. See Rob Van Dam vs. Jerry Lynn matches as great examples. They use maybe one or two chairs, and do so in innovative and interesting ways, without making the match about the weapon.

On the other hand, in 2000 the WWF's hardcore matches were nothing but 10 minutes of a ring filled with plunder and hitting each other in the face. It got repetitive.
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Well it's the WWE we're talking about. Pretty sure their hardcore matches would feature Michael Bay-explosions at this point.
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