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Old 08-06-2009, 02:34 PM   #1
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I think it should come back so guys like Yoshi Tatsu and Evan Bourne have something to do without the inevitable David and Goliath crap. However, I don't think it should be and SD! exclusive, as it used to be. I think it should make a return and be treated like the Tag Titles; champ is on one roster, but goes where his opponents are for feuding purposes. Same could (and should) be done for the womens' title. And piss on that Divas garbage.

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Old 08-06-2009, 02:38 PM   #2
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They should just recreate WCW's Cruiserweight division.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:38 PM   #3
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:40 PM   #4
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I like the idea. There are a lot of smaller guys who just don't fit into the midcard title or main event scenes, so this would definitely give them something meaningful to do.

Not that guys should need a title to chase to be doing something meaningful, but that's what WWE has come to unfortunately.

I also would piss on the Divas title and have the Women's title across the brands.
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don't think it would work... as guys like CM Punk, Chris Jericho, John Morrison, Rey Mysterio, Jeff Hardy, etc. are all in the "heavyweight" division, yet none weigh more than 230 pounds.... If I remember correctly, the CW limit was 220, so most of these guys would only have to drop less than 10 pounds to become cruiserweights..... doesn't make sense
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:08 PM   #6
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No. The titles on TV are, for the most part, booked rather poorly. I'd rather they fix that before adding another title.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:58 PM   #12
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It'll be an easy way to get a belt on Chavo. The Swog was the last CW champ, so just have a title match. Chavo goes over, and celebrates like he just won a gold medal with a broken freakin' neck.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:30 PM   #13
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No. The titles on TV are, for the most part, booked rather poorly. I'd rather they fix that before adding another title.
Pissing the on the Divas "title" and replacing it with the CW title isn't adding more, it's redacting a joke and reinstating a real goal.

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It'll be an easy way to get a belt on Chavo. The Swog was the last CW champ, so just have a title match. Chavo goes over, and celebrates like he just won a gold medal with a broken freakin' neck.

Then he could actually use that to boost his morale and start -- get this -- defeating opponents in his division.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:38 PM   #14
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Pissing the on the Divas "title" and replacing it with the CW title isn't adding more, it's redacting a joke and reinstating a real goal.
Although unneeded, I don't consider the Divas title a joke. Especially now that it's on Raw and it looks like we're gonna get a nice Gail Kim/Mickie James feud.

I see your point though. I guess my point is that there are way too many titles period.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:42 PM   #15
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Although unneeded, I don't consider the Divas title a joke. Especially now that it's on Raw and it looks like we're gonna get a nice Gail Kim/Mickie James feud.

I see your point though. I guess my point is that there are way too many titles period.
I don't see it as too many. One womens' title and a lightheavyweight title as interbrand goals should be sufficient, though. That way, more guys are wrestling for a reason, even if that reason is just to gain contendership for the title of their choice. And like people watch chick fights, anyway.

I do think, though, that most of the titles are afterthoughts.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:50 PM   #16
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Seeing as they've tried this before - bringing it back multiple times, pushing it hard then within 12 months dumping on it - then I don't agree.

If Evan Bourne or Tatsu get over enough then there's always the US or IC titles, or even the tag titles with a partner (Kendrick and London were a great example).
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:28 AM   #17
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Nah. They had their chances to book the CW title properly in the past, and rarely, if EVER, even, were they.

And I entirely agree with Afterlife about the Women's Championship thing...get rid of the Divas Championship and just call the Women's title the Undisputed Women's title, and allow it to be fought for/defended at anytime anywhere, by and between any divas, a la the Undisputed Tag titles...that way instead of two separate, branded women's division titles, you have ONE that can be defended not just on RAW or SmackDown! or at a pay-per-view, but also, ECW, which since it has been added to WWE's portfolio, has not had any such title for any of the women to win or defend, and yes, there's VERY few divas on ECW itself, but hey, it would still give them something to strive for instead of just being eye candy on ECW all the time.
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Have you ever noticed how injury prone the women's division can be? Maybe we should think twice before we put the title on a Diva who will have to be available for every show?
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, dude most of the divas aren't that injury-prone. Sure a few have gotten hurt and unfortunately had to have their title reigns cut short, but I'd be willing to wager the number or percentage or what have you, of divas who've had to cut their title reigns short is about on par with the guys.
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Have you ever noticed how injury prone the women's division can be? Maybe we should think twice before we put the title on a Diva who will have to be available for every show?
Batista's a chick?

Besides, nobody gives a rat's ass about chick fights, so it's not like it would matter.
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I was against the idea of scrapping the Cruiserweight Title, but I am not a fan of bringing it back. Looking at things realistically, the WWE will just book the division poorly. A guy like Evan Bourne looks infinitely better challenging for the ECW Title than being Cruiserweight Champion.

Plus, so many of the main eventers in the WWE are cruiserweights, anyway. Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Christian and Jeff Hardy are all former Cruiserweight or Light Heavyweight Champions. John Morrison and Chavo Guerrero are former ECW Champions, and they are cruiserweights. JBL was the last guy to mention the weight limit for the Cruiserweight Title, and he suggested it was 225lbs. That puts CM Punk and Shawn Michaels under the banner, as well.

So tell me: Why should a guy challenge for the Cruiserweight Title? I mean, seriously. Why do some guys go for the Cruiserweight Title, while other men who are technically cruiserweights, don't challenge for it. It'd be like a female worker deciding she doesn't want to be the WWE Women's Champion anymore, and chasing anything else. The Women's Title should be it for female wrestlers, and the Cruiserweight Title should be it for cruiserweights.

That means you'd have to change booking considerably, and convince someone like Shawn Michaels that being the Cruiserweight Champion is a good idea for him.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:17 AM   #22
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I was against the idea of scrapping the Cruiserweight Title, but I am not a fan of bringing it back. Looking at things realistically, the WWE will just book the division poorly. A guy like Evan Bourne looks infinitely better challenging for the ECW Title than being Cruiserweight Champion.

Plus, so many of the main eventers in the WWE are cruiserweights, anyway. Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Christian and Jeff Hardy are all former Cruiserweight or Light Heavyweight Champions. John Morrison and Chavo Guerrero are former ECW Champions, and they are cruiserweights. JBL was the last guy to mention the weight limit for the Cruiserweight Title, and he suggested it was 225lbs. That puts CM Punk and Shawn Michaels under the banner, as well.

So tell me: Why should a guy challenge for the Cruiserweight Title? I mean, seriously. Why do some guys go for the Cruiserweight Title, while other men who are technically cruiserweights, don't challenge for it. It'd be like a female worker deciding she doesn't want to be the WWE Women's Champion anymore, and chasing anything else. The Women's Title should be it for female wrestlers, and the Cruiserweight Title should be it for cruiserweights.

That means you'd have to change booking considerably, and convince someone like Shawn Michaels that being the Cruiserweight Champion is a good idea for him.
I had heard Matt Hardy once say that he was going to get to <220 lbs. because that was the weight limit for being accepted as a Cruiserweight, but maybe that happened before JBL's "decree" or whatever.
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I had heard Matt Hardy once say that he was going to get to <220 lbs. because that was the weight limit for being accepted as a Cruiserweight, but maybe that happened before JBL's "decree" or whatever.
Yeah, that was a couple of years before.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:08 AM   #24
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Yeah that was when Mattitude was in it's prime and Shannon Moore was his lackey .

Very late '02/Early '03 I believe.
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I feel like the Cruiserweight limit in WCW was 215, but the Lightheavyweight limit in WWF was 225. I could be entirely wrong, of course.
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Yeah that was when Mattitude was in it's prime and Shannon Moore was his lackey .

Very late '02/Early '03 I believe.
You are correct. Matt Hardy successully defended the Cruiserweight Title against Rey Mysterio at WrestleMania XIX in 2003.
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I did think about bringing back the Cruiserweight Title for a little bit when Vickie Guerrero was still RAW General Manager -- as a sort of gift to keep Chavo happy. The title wouldn't be used as a legitimate institution, but entirely as a prop to give Chavo something to do.

I still wouldn't mind it if they did it, perhaps with Chavo just coming out with the belt after he defeats Hornswoggle one night, and saying that he is the "honourary Cruiserweight Champion." He can then work with guys like Primo and Evan Bourne. But then they've got to drop the title, and let the smaller men climb the ranks.
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You are correct. Matt Hardy successully defended the Cruiserweight Title against Rey Mysterio at WrestleMania XIX in 2003.
Yeah, he won it from Kidman at No Way Out '03. (\/)
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