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Old 04-04-2004, 09:24 AM   #1
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WWE Offers Goldberg New Deal

By Ryan Clark
WrestlingInc.com Staff
March 29, 2004

WWE has put an offer on the table to get Goldberg to return to the company. The deal would apparently include limited dates only and build to a huge program with Steve Austin.
Right now, Goldberg seems to be debating whether it will be better for him or worse if he stays off TV for awhile. The general feeling now is that Goldberg will be back when the time and money is right.

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Old 04-04-2004, 01:02 PM   #2
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Old 04-04-2004, 01:12 PM   #3
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I would like to see Goldberg back. The guy gets alot of unfair critism.
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Old 04-04-2004, 01:22 PM   #4
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Old 04-04-2004, 01:25 PM   #5
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I would like to see Goldberg back, only for Austin to beat the crap outta him
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Old 04-04-2004, 01:36 PM   #6
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I would like to see Goldberg back, only for Austin to beat the crap outta him
or let Benoit beat the crap outta him.
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Old 04-04-2004, 01:46 PM   #7
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As long as he isn't in a program to go after the World/WWE title then I don't care if he comes back.
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As long as he isn't in a program to go after the World/WWE title then I don't care if he comes back.


Yup, cause we'd all rather see triple h whore the title for another 8 or 9 month period....
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Old 04-04-2004, 02:26 PM   #9
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Old 04-04-2004, 02:58 PM   #10
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Screw Goldberg. Wno needs him. Yes he is good for fan hype but that is it. Look at the guys matches. Not a single one since he made it to the WWE was any good. All the hype for each match made them very horrible matches and no one liked them. I say dont bring him back. Make some good go to the young guns. They need there shot.
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Old 04-04-2004, 03:00 PM   #11
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Screw Goldberg. Wno needs him. Yes he is good for fan hype but that is it. Look at the guys matches. Not a single one since he made it to the WWE was any good. All the hype for each match made them very horrible matches and no one liked them. I say dont bring him back. Make some good go to the young guns. They need there shot.
I liked his match with Jericho.
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Old 04-04-2004, 04:01 PM   #12
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Bah Goldberg. Who cares. Push Sean O'Haire.


What d'you mean he was released...
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Old 04-04-2004, 05:19 PM   #13
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Old 04-04-2004, 05:26 PM   #14
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Personally, I really like Goldberg. And his matches aren't supposed to be "good." They were never meant to be "good." They're supposed to be fast and intense, with Goldberg looking like a monster, which he does very well. I mean, look at the Elimination Chamber match from SummerSlam 2003. When Goldberg came out of his cell and started spearing and jackhammering everyone, I know I was marking out.

The guy may not be the most talented, but he's a big name and he could be very, very useful to the WWE right now. I would love to see him come back.
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Old 04-04-2004, 05:37 PM   #15
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FIRE: Sean O' Haire

Try And Hire: Golderg

Makes Sense To Me.....

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Well, you had to fire someone, to afford the salary they now need to offer Goldberg. And since we don't want workers, or broad schedules, let's fire O'Haire...
Pretty soon, the only people left to work House shwos will be Lance Storm and Stevie Richards.
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Old 04-04-2004, 05:40 PM   #16
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I mean, look at the Elimination Chamber match from SummerSlam 2003.
Yeah, him nearly falling on his ass was the best move I've EVER seen him do.
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Old 04-04-2004, 05:44 PM   #17
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Yeah, him nearly falling on his ass was the best move I've EVER seen him do.
sad thing is, his slip-ups are more interesting than his matches.

I'm sorry. I'm a fan of the fast beatdown thing, but only if it's actually moving towards a big match. All Goldberg can do is fast, intense, and SHODDY AS FUCK. I mean, if the guy squashed some jobbers in 9 seconds building up to an awesome match at a PPV, it'd be one thing. But it's just more of the same when he gets up to that PPV.
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Yeah, him nearly falling on his ass was the best move I've EVER seen him do.
Its funny how goldberg slipping once is such a big deal, whereas ultimo dragon at mania 20 almost fell on his ass on the stage then almost fell on his ass off the second rope as soon as he got into the ring. How come such a big deals not made of that?
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sad thing is, his slip-ups are more interesting than his matches.

I'm sorry. I'm a fan of the fast beatdown thing, but only if it's actually moving towards a big match. All Goldberg can do is fast, intense, and SHODDY AS FUCK. I mean, if the guy squashed some jobbers in 9 seconds building up to an awesome match at a PPV, it'd be one thing. But it's just more of the same when he gets up to that PPV.

Goldberg to me looked far better in wcw as did his matches, the mania 20 match between him and lesnar was an absoloute joke, it was one of those "it'll never happen matches" a couple of years ago and was something fans wanted to see. Now that they did see it they're probably sick at the thought they ever wanted to see it at all.

Goldbergs obviously got a lot of power but he needs to use more holds, even that rolling leglace he used in wcw which actually looked pretty good for a guy his size, it was rarely used in wwe. If he could even utilise a few suplexes into his repotoire it would spice up his matches a lot. All they really seem to be is him getting beat down for the majority then him coming back at the end with a 2 move combo to win....actually kinda reminds me of hogans matches when i think about it.

Goldberg could be a huge assett to wwe but the way he is now he's just underwhelming, wwe screwing with his character didn;t help matters. I think a spell in ovw would be of great help teaching him new stuff but that idea would go down like the titanic. He has the look, the size, and the intensity and his entrance just echo's all that, he just needs more added to his limited moveset.



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Its funny how goldberg slipping once is such a big deal, whereas ultimo dragon at mania 20 almost fell on his ass on the stage then almost fell on his ass off the second rope as soon as he got into the ring. How come such a big deals not made of that?
He's slipped far more than once.

Ultimo's a solid performer. People are less likely to give you shit for screwing up once or twice if you don't suck already.

Therefore, people will make a bigger deal over Goldberg than Ultimo. It's so unfair...A shit performer gets shit for slipping when a good performer doesn't...

RACISM!
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Screw Goldberg. Wno needs him. Yes he is good for fan hype but that is it. Look at the guys matches. Not a single one since he made it to the WWE was any good. All the hype for each match made them very horrible matches and no one liked them. I say dont bring him back. Make some good go to the young guns. They need there shot.
The one with Brock at Wrestlemania was pretty good.
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At the same time..like I said...his name value is HUGE. Since he's already laid down for Trips, his only purpose would be to come in, squash midcarders for a few weeks, then job to guys like Y2J and Benoit whose careers would beneift form the exposure; Austin and HHH really don't need a 'rub' IMO.
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My beef with Goldberg is that the only way he really works is if he goes in there and does a few moves and wins. And it's really not fair to come in and do that to everyone if you're not sticking around. And the only way he can lose a match being tazed, is just a tad dumb. It might have been great for WCW, but IMO, I don't think the WWE should have guys like that. Especially after eating a bunch of people and bitching that you're not being used right.
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Old 04-04-2004, 11:11 PM   #26
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Goldberg needs to:

Cut funny promos, if he's capable.

Take more bumps.

Be 'friends' with other faces.

Spear heels for no reason at all.

Be heel, himself for a year.

Think about matches before going into them.

He actually has a large palet of moves, he chooses not to do them. He needs to do them, outta reversals; that's when they look best.
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:04 AM   #27
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Bringing Goldberg back in my Op is a big mistake. For one he has this the No-Sell bit going for him, When his contaract originally came up back in the begining a year ago it stated he couldn't lose to any big names IE: Trips, Taker, Micheals and more. Can't remember em all at this time.

Back in WCW he was also quoted at saying he didn't wanna work with Jericho just because he was so small in build. His Temper also led to him being laid up for six months after putting his fist through a Limo window due to Scott Hall's antics.

Upon his arrivel in the WWE he wasn't welcome at all, as a matter of fact several people were upset that he had even been hired. Knowing that with him any pushes they hoped at getting would be put on hold so Goldberg could get his push.

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Goldberg needs to:

Cut funny promos, if he's capable.

Take more bumps.

Be 'friends' with other faces.

Spear heels for no reason at all.

Be heel, himself for a year.

Think about matches before going into them.

He actually has a large palet of moves, he chooses not to do them. He needs to do them, outta reversals; that's when they look best.
Cut funny promos--Please, his current oens are funny enough...And about the limit...

Take more bumps--Yeah, and then he can come out in body paint, and write bad poetry.

Spear heels--Yeah, let's imitate Austin. Bringing u pthe past always works. Just look at the ratings Hogan had.
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Old 04-05-2004, 05:44 AM   #31
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"Be heel, himself for a year"

OMG, goldberg already sucks as a face, and now u want him to be a heel?!



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Old 04-05-2004, 02:53 PM   #32
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In my opinion Goldberg has NO use for WWE right now or ever. I was extremely open to the idea of him in WWE and really tried to get into it (I was even excited when he arrived). The one thing I've learned though is that WWE fans will never REALLY take to Goldberg - and let's face is, Bill's on any use if he's super strong over and drawing, two things I don't think he'll do for WWE.

Ringwork MATTERS to WWE fans - the past few years have shown how the audience's have become accustomed to great, highly-charged main events matches. This is again something that Bill can't really deliver.

WWE are beginning to get things right, especially on Raw. New starts are built and given time they're could be some extremely strong, over, NEW main eventers especially on the Raw show.

Bringing back Bill would serve no purpose in my mind. A program with Austin is tempting, but at this point Steve should be putting over people like he did with Benjamin on Raw. Would Austin/Goldberg draw? Maybe. I don't think it's a sure-fire winner as it was would have been. They should focus on making stars and feuds that draw, rather than throwing money at one program that might draw.
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There's no doubt an Austin-Goldberg program is no guarantee, but at the same time its the best bet the WWE has for a strong buyrate in the next year.

I dont know how the PPVs will do going forward, but with RAW and especially SD I think buyrates are going to take a huge dive between now and Summerslam. I could see by the time August rolls around that they may get desperate and go for Austin-Goldberg.

Really there's nothing wrong with doing that program. Austin can go over, and Goldberg isn't a full time performer, so nobody gets hurt. The only question is when to do the match? Do you do it at SS or save it for Mania 21? Either way, they should do it at some point.
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Old 04-05-2004, 03:15 PM   #34
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Problem is, that's a quick fix at best (IMO)
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Old 04-05-2004, 03:30 PM   #35
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Problem is, that's a quick fix at best (IMO)
Its not even a matter of fixing the problem, rather than just taking advantage of a program that is out there. If you wait too long people will forget and they wont care as much.

Plus, if you can use something like Austin-Goldberg to spike a buyarte, and then focus the show on some new guys, in theory they can get over to the casual fans who came to see Austin-Goldberg.
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Old 04-05-2004, 03:55 PM   #37
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Well, yeah, but the WWE needs to do more than just shoot their load on one match. This is why we keep seeing these "cyclical" dips in wrestling...A tendency to put it all on one horse, leaving them high and dry when its no longer in the race.

They could increase their buyrates by making the shows more interesting, and of better quality. IT would last longer than a blowout feud. The WWE tends to substitute the latter for the former, though. While you're right, I am pointing out the side effects of such a program.
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Well, yeah, but the WWE needs to do more than just shoot their load on one match. This is why we keep seeing these "cyclical" dips in wrestling...A tendency to put it all on one horse, leaving them high and dry when its no longer in the race.

They could increase their buyrates by making the shows more interesting, and of better quality. IT would last longer than a blowout feud. The WWE tends to substitute the latter for the former, though. While you're right, I am pointing out the side effects of such a program.
While you do have a point that they should be diversifying, but their feast and famine has been working for them so far.
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You might as well ask Rokishi to start doing moonsaults and Jackie Gayda to be a master technician.
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