I guess this is why edmonton didn't want to let comrie leave so soon.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 12-16-2003, 04:38 PM

Flyers acquire Comrie from Oilers

TSN.ca Staff

12/16/2003

LOS ANGELES (CP) - The Edmonton Oilers have finally traded Mike Comrie, shipping the unsigned centre to the Philadelphia Flyers.

In return, the Oilers get promising young defencemen Jeff Woywitka as well as a first-round pick in the 2004 NHL entry draft and a third-round pick in 2005.

``Jeff is a player that we have liked since we first saw him play with the Red Deer Rebels and he has improved each year,'' Oilers GM Kevin Lowe said in a statement. ``He was rated high on our 2001 draft list along with Ales Hemsky, and we would have liked to have drafted him that season.

``We feel that Jeff will solidify our defence for the future. There seems to be a huge premium on defencemen in the NHL and when you can get a solid defenceman that has the upside that Woywitka does, you go after him.''

Lowe was in Los Angeles with the Oilers, who played the Kings later on Tuesday night.

Comrie, 23, had 51 points (20 goals, 31 assists) in 69 games with the Oilers last season, down from the 60 points (33-27) in 2001-2002. He also helped Canada win gold at the 2003 world hockey championship in Helsinki.

``We believe that this really strengthens our club down the middle,'' Flyers GM Bob Clarke said in a statement. ``It gives us a very creative and quick centre man and these types of players make the players around them better.''

The Flyers still have to come to terms with Comrie, a restricted free agent.

``Mike is unsigned,'' Clarke said. ``He is a free agent at this time whose rights we now own.

``We're going to work hard to get him signed and get him into our lineup.''

Woywitka, 20, had six assists and 51 penalty minutes in 29 games for the AHL's Philadelphia Phantoms. He played for Canada world junior team last year and was Philadelphia's first pick, 27th overall, in 2001.

That Comrie ended up in Philadelphia is somewhat of a surprise.

Rumours swirled of a deal with the Anaheim Mighty Ducks last week that would send OHL prospect Corey Perry and a first-round draft pick to Edmonton.

The Ducks, who came to contract terms with Comrie last week, thought they had a deal with Edmonton as early Monday. But Lowe threw a wrench into negotiations when he asked Comrie for $2.5 million US in cash to top up the transaction.

Comrie and agent Ritch Winter refused Lowe's unusual request and the trade was put on hold.

Comrie, Edmonton's fifth choice and 91st overall in the 1999 NHL draft, had Edmonton over a barrel when he jumped from college to junior hockey in 2000, opening the door to unrestricted free agency.

The Oilers signed the Kootenay Ice centre Dec. 20, 2000, to a three-year contract that paid him about $1 million US annually. The deal was loaded with bonuses to boost his salary to $10 million over the term and he earned most of them.

The 38-member Oilers ownership group paid because they saw Comrie as a player who fans would continue coming to see year after year.

But a thumb injury limited Comrie's production last year and he was publicly criticized by Lowe for a sub-par playoff performance last spring.

When it came time to negotiate a new deal, the Oilers played hardball, limiting Comrie to a 10 per cent increase on his $1 million base salary, which is all that is required for restricted free agents under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement.

Comrie, the son of Brick Furniture millionaire Bill Comrie, refused to accept the offer. The Oilers didn't negotiate and told him not to come to camp.

Comrie responded by demanding a trade, even offering to take less money to play somewhere else to facilitate a deal. But the Oilers refused to be goaded and let him stew.

The contract situation created a rift between the Comrie family - long-time Oilers supporters - and the club's management.

wow philly gave up alot... Woywitka I don't think he was a first round pick but I've seen him play against Brandon and he was an amazing D-man. They also got a first round and a third round, guess they didn't want money since they were getting a way better deal with Philly.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 12-16-2003, 04:40 PM

it also should probably be taken in that when Lowe picks up guys they're always a really good fit into edmonton... Everyone gave him grief over getting cross and Dvorak for carter last year but they're playing very well in edmonton now.

**KleptoKlown** · 12-16-2003, 04:48 PM

Philly gave up a bit, but Cormie adds to an already dangerous offence.

Gagne, Recchi, Leclair, Roenick, Kapanen(sometimes) Williams, Amonte and now Cormie....could be scary.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 12-16-2003, 04:59 PM

he hassn't signed yet with them though

Philly gave up quite a bit for some rights. lol. Comrie should now hold out with them

**KleptoKlown** · 12-16-2003, 05:03 PM

I dunno, Oilers only got propects, Cormie will put up numbers.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 12-16-2003, 05:05 PM

not if he doesnt sign

**KleptoKlown** · 12-16-2003, 05:13 PM

I doubt there will be any problems signing him.

I think Cormie will put up some amazing numbers in Philly though.

Philly won this trade IMO, it all really comes down to how good Woywitka comes along, and what Lowe does with the picks.

**mitch_h** · 12-16-2003, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ]{lepto]{lown

I doubt there will be any problems signing him.

.

Can you please knock on wood... my fantasy team needs Comrie

**KleptoKlown** · 12-16-2003, 05:56 PM

just cause you need all the help you can get..

*knocks on wood*

12-16-2003, 06:42 PM

He probably won't be that great fantasy-wise though. He'll at best be 2nd-line, and he won't get a whole lot of PP time. Who knows though, he could surprise me

**PsychoSport** · 12-16-2003, 07:18 PM

Comrie's not even that good, and holdouts always suck. Not to mention he won't even get much icetime in Philly. I bet he gets 30 points in the remaining 50 or so games. If that.

**da_king** · 12-16-2003, 07:41 PM

plus he's missed training camp and so much of the season, it'll take a while to get into the grove of things and in playing shape. just look at gaborik, hold outs don't usually do well comming back mid season.

**PsychoSport** · 12-16-2003, 07:54 PM

That's what I said.

"holdouts always suck"

**da_king** · 12-16-2003, 08:07 PM

thought you meant it figuratively, anyways i guess i agree then.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 12-16-2003, 10:33 PM

LOL, I was just watching NHL on the fly and they said Comrie appearently isn't to keen on playing in philly and might hold out there aswell. LOL

12-16-2003, 10:37 PM

What a retard.

**mitch_h** · 12-16-2003, 10:44 PM

OMG Comrie you are a fucking dick, you had like one good season you fucking jerk toast.

**mitch_h** · 12-16-2003, 10:48 PM

I'm going to trade him to Yash... that'll give him a reason to hold out.

**TheJShow** · 12-16-2003, 10:54 PM

Too bad Philly doesn't realize they don't need scoring, they need goaltending.

12-16-2003, 10:56 PM

Yeah 'cause it's not like Hackett and Esche have been the collective MAN this year or anything.

God, Philly fans piss me off sometimes

**MoRcHeEbA** · 12-16-2003, 11:11 PM

appearently most people on Comries side including analysts have all told him he's in a spot where he can make some money off of philly cause they gave up future for him... I dunno though..

**PsychoSport** · 12-16-2003, 11:21 PM

I remember hearing Bob Clarke on the radio saying he has "no interest in comrie at all." Haha.

12-17-2003, 09:43 AM

man is phili ever gonna be tough to beat. I love the oilers picking up Woywitka though

12-17-2003, 10:08 AM

Why would Clarke get a headcase like Comrie. He never puts up with their bullshit. Sort of surprising.

**TheJShow** · 12-17-2003, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg

Yeah 'cause it's not like Hackett and Esche have been the collective MAN this year or anything.

God, Philly fans piss me off sometimes

lol me a Philly fan

Hackett and Esche are not going to win you a Stanley Cup.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 12-17-2003, 02:03 PM

they just might win them a cup the way they're playing

**TheJShow** · 12-17-2003, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA

they just might win them a cup the way they're playing

Stranger things have happened... I just think when it comes to the playoffs, especially in the East, I would pick Belfour or Brodeur over them without even thinking about it. Even Lalime or Theodore I would rather have.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 12-17-2003, 05:46 PM

according to bobby clark there is only one great goalie in the NHL and thats broduer the rest are just "good"

**KleptoKlown** · 12-17-2003, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA

according to bobby clark there is only one great goalie in the NHL and thats broduer the rest are just "good"

funny thing about that...if Broduer was playing on...lets say, the Penguins, he wouldnt be winning any Veznias.

Not trying to take anything away from Broduer, as he is amoung the best goalies. But the team he plays with...and the style that they play, is a huge part of Broduers sucess.

12-17-2003, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJShow

Stranger things have happened... I just think when it comes to the playoffs, especially in the East, I would pick Belfour or Brodeur over them without even thinking about it. Even Lalime or Theodore I would rather have.

Well no shit

Just because Brodeur is better than your team's goalie, doesn't mean your goalie sucks

**TheJShow** · 12-17-2003, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg

Well no shit

Just because Brodeur is better than your team's goalie, doesn't mean your goalie sucks

lol Philly ain't my team. Read my post.

I never said Hackett and Esche sucked.

**da_king** · 12-17-2003, 07:39 PM

well i guess as a team they're pretty good deffensively anyways so as long as the goalies play solidly and don't let any bad ones in, they might not need to be counted on to actually win them any games. they let chechmanik go and it hasn't seemed to hamper them one bit or affect them goals against much so that tells you something about their team. plus they got all that offensive talent.

**BlackRavyyn** · 12-17-2003, 07:57 PM

Whoo! Damn deal is finally done and that whiny lil bitch is off to greener pastures...

I don't think they waited intentionally for this deal to come through. The whole money issue was so that Comrie wouldn't go to a Western Conference team. If you were Kevin Lowe, what would you rather see? Mike Comrie once out of every season, or seven times a season? That would be the difference if he played for Anaheim vs the Flyers.

I don't like that we only got a bucket of pucks but I guess it beats nothing. Still, I hope to see Comrie lace up and play for Philly and end up getting creamed cause that's what is going to happen, but that's just my opinion

**PsychoSport** · 12-17-2003, 07:59 PM

Havent you guys noticed that all goalie's stats looki good in Philly? Look at Brian Boucher.

12-16-2003, 04:38 PM	#1
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	I guess this is why edmonton didn't want to let comrie leave so soon. Flyers acquire Comrie from Oilers TSN.ca Staff 12/16/2003 LOS ANGELES (CP) - The Edmonton Oilers have finally traded Mike Comrie, shipping the unsigned centre to the Philadelphia Flyers. In return, the Oilers get promising young defencemen Jeff Woywitka as well as a first-round pick in the 2004 NHL entry draft and a third-round pick in 2005. ``Jeff is a player that we have liked since we first saw him play with the Red Deer Rebels and he has improved each year,'' Oilers GM Kevin Lowe said in a statement. ``He was rated high on our 2001 draft list along with Ales Hemsky, and we would have liked to have drafted him that season. ``We feel that Jeff will solidify our defence for the future. There seems to be a huge premium on defencemen in the NHL and when you can get a solid defenceman that has the upside that Woywitka does, you go after him.'' Lowe was in Los Angeles with the Oilers, who played the Kings later on Tuesday night. Comrie, 23, had 51 points (20 goals, 31 assists) in 69 games with the Oilers last season, down from the 60 points (33-27) in 2001-2002. He also helped Canada win gold at the 2003 world hockey championship in Helsinki. ``We believe that this really strengthens our club down the middle,'' Flyers GM Bob Clarke said in a statement. ``It gives us a very creative and quick centre man and these types of players make the players around them better.'' The Flyers still have to come to terms with Comrie, a restricted free agent. ``Mike is unsigned,'' Clarke said. ``He is a free agent at this time whose rights we now own. ``We're going to work hard to get him signed and get him into our lineup.'' Woywitka, 20, had six assists and 51 penalty minutes in 29 games for the AHL's Philadelphia Phantoms. He played for Canada world junior team last year and was Philadelphia's first pick, 27th overall, in 2001. That Comrie ended up in Philadelphia is somewhat of a surprise. Rumours swirled of a deal with the Anaheim Mighty Ducks last week that would send OHL prospect Corey Perry and a first-round draft pick to Edmonton. The Ducks, who came to contract terms with Comrie last week, thought they had a deal with Edmonton as early Monday. But Lowe threw a wrench into negotiations when he asked Comrie for $2.5 million US in cash to top up the transaction. Comrie and agent Ritch Winter refused Lowe's unusual request and the trade was put on hold. Comrie, Edmonton's fifth choice and 91st overall in the 1999 NHL draft, had Edmonton over a barrel when he jumped from college to junior hockey in 2000, opening the door to unrestricted free agency. The Oilers signed the Kootenay Ice centre Dec. 20, 2000, to a three-year contract that paid him about $1 million US annually. The deal was loaded with bonuses to boost his salary to $10 million over the term and he earned most of them. The 38-member Oilers ownership group paid because they saw Comrie as a player who fans would continue coming to see year after year. But a thumb injury limited Comrie's production last year and he was publicly criticized by Lowe for a sub-par playoff performance last spring. When it came time to negotiate a new deal, the Oilers played hardball, limiting Comrie to a 10 per cent increase on his $1 million base salary, which is all that is required for restricted free agents under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement. Comrie, the son of Brick Furniture millionaire Bill Comrie, refused to accept the offer. The Oilers didn't negotiate and told him not to come to camp. Comrie responded by demanding a trade, even offering to take less money to play somewhere else to facilitate a deal. But the Oilers refused to be goaded and let him stew. The contract situation created a rift between the Comrie family - long-time Oilers supporters - and the club's management. wow philly gave up alot... Woywitka I don't think he was a first round pick but I've seen him play against Brandon and he was an amazing D-man. They also got a first round and a third round, guess they didn't want money since they were getting a way better deal with Philly.

12-16-2003, 04:40 PM	#2
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	it also should probably be taken in that when Lowe picks up guys they're always a really good fit into edmonton... Everyone gave him grief over getting cross and Dvorak for carter last year but they're playing very well in edmonton now.

12-16-2003, 04:48 PM	#3
KleptoKlown You're a Fucken Samsquach Posts: 21,739	Philly gave up a bit, but Cormie adds to an already dangerous offence. Gagne, Recchi, Leclair, Roenick, Kapanen(sometimes) Williams, Amonte and now Cormie....could be scary.

12-16-2003, 04:59 PM	#4
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	he hassn't signed yet with them though Philly gave up quite a bit for some rights. lol. Comrie should now hold out with them

12-16-2003, 05:03 PM	#5
KleptoKlown You're a Fucken Samsquach Posts: 21,739	I dunno, Oilers only got propects, Cormie will put up numbers.

12-16-2003, 05:05 PM	#6
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	not if he doesnt sign

12-16-2003, 05:13 PM	#7
KleptoKlown You're a Fucken Samsquach Posts: 21,739	I doubt there will be any problems signing him. I think Cormie will put up some amazing numbers in Philly though. Philly won this trade IMO, it all really comes down to how good Woywitka comes along, and what Lowe does with the picks.

12-16-2003, 05:56 PM	#9
KleptoKlown You're a Fucken Samsquach Posts: 21,739	just cause you need all the help you can get.. knocks on wood

12-16-2003, 06:42 PM	#10
road doggy dogg Guest Posts: n/a	He probably won't be that great fantasy-wise though. He'll at best be 2nd-line, and he won't get a whole lot of PP time. Who knows though, he could surprise me

12-16-2003, 07:18 PM	#11
PsychoSport King of Awesome. Posts: 1,057	Comrie's not even that good, and holdouts always suck. Not to mention he won't even get much icetime in Philly. I bet he gets 30 points in the remaining 50 or so games. If that.

12-16-2003, 07:41 PM	#12
da_king Senior Member Posts: 18,763	plus he's missed training camp and so much of the season, it'll take a while to get into the grove of things and in playing shape. just look at gaborik, hold outs don't usually do well comming back mid season.

12-16-2003, 07:54 PM	#13
PsychoSport King of Awesome. Posts: 1,057	That's what I said. "holdouts always suck"

12-16-2003, 08:07 PM	#14
da_king Senior Member Posts: 18,763	thought you meant it figuratively, anyways i guess i agree then.

12-16-2003, 10:33 PM	#15
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	LOL, I was just watching NHL on the fly and they said Comrie appearently isn't to keen on playing in philly and might hold out there aswell. LOL

12-16-2003, 10:37 PM	#16
road doggy dogg Guest Posts: n/a	What a retard.

12-16-2003, 10:44 PM	#17
mitch_h Posts: 6,727	OMG Comrie you are a fucking dick, you had like one good season you fucking jerk toast.

12-16-2003, 10:48 PM	#18
mitch_h Posts: 6,727	I'm going to trade him to Yash... that'll give him a reason to hold out.

12-16-2003, 10:54 PM	#19
TheJShow Jays Posts: 1,339	Too bad Philly doesn't realize they don't need scoring, they need goaltending.

12-16-2003, 10:56 PM	#20
road doggy dogg Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah 'cause it's not like Hackett and Esche have been the collective MAN this year or anything. God, Philly fans piss me off sometimes

12-16-2003, 11:11 PM	#21
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	appearently most people on Comries side including analysts have all told him he's in a spot where he can make some money off of philly cause they gave up future for him... I dunno though..

12-16-2003, 11:21 PM	#22
PsychoSport King of Awesome. Posts: 1,057	I remember hearing Bob Clarke on the radio saying he has "no interest in comrie at all." Haha.

12-17-2003, 09:43 AM	#23
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	man is phili ever gonna be tough to beat. I love the oilers picking up Woywitka though

12-17-2003, 10:08 AM	#24
YOUR Hero Guest Posts: n/a	Why would Clarke get a headcase like Comrie. He never puts up with their bullshit. Sort of surprising.

12-17-2003, 02:03 PM	#26
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	they just might win them a cup the way they're playing

12-17-2003, 05:46 PM	#28
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	according to bobby clark there is only one great goalie in the NHL and thats broduer the rest are just "good"

12-17-2003, 07:39 PM	#32
da_king Senior Member Posts: 18,763	well i guess as a team they're pretty good deffensively anyways so as long as the goalies play solidly and don't let any bad ones in, they might not need to be counted on to actually win them any games. they let chechmanik go and it hasn't seemed to hamper them one bit or affect them goals against much so that tells you something about their team. plus they got all that offensive talent.

12-17-2003, 07:57 PM	#33
BlackRavyyn Posts: 4,526	Whoo! Damn deal is finally done and that whiny lil bitch is off to greener pastures... I don't think they waited intentionally for this deal to come through. The whole money issue was so that Comrie wouldn't go to a Western Conference team. If you were Kevin Lowe, what would you rather see? Mike Comrie once out of every season, or seven times a season? That would be the difference if he played for Anaheim vs the Flyers. I don't like that we only got a bucket of pucks but I guess it beats nothing. Still, I hope to see Comrie lace up and play for Philly and end up getting creamed cause that's what is going to happen, but that's just my opinion

12-17-2003, 07:59 PM	#34
PsychoSport King of Awesome. Posts: 1,057	Havent you guys noticed that all goalie's stats looki good in Philly? Look at Brian Boucher.