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Old 11-26-2009, 11:37 AM   #1
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WWE has reportedly "given up" on Ziggler and Swagger
Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

For those keeping track, Dolph Ziggler has taken part in twenty-six Intercontinental title matches at various events (televised and non-televised) within the past few months, losing all but two. He won one match via count-out with another match being ruled a double count-out. Furthermore, he has come up short in retrieving the title on television on seven different occasions including Night of Champions, SummerSlam, Hell in the Cell and four separate episodes of Friday Night SmackDown!.

Ziggler was at one point scheduled to win the title from Rey Mysterio over the summer, but the high-flying Superstar vetoed dropping the title to him on more than one occasion. When push came to shove as a result of a 30-day suspension for violating the company’s drug testing policy in early September, Mysterio agreed to drop the title to John Morrison.

Now it appears that the ship has sailed on Ziggler nabbing the gold as WWE officials have reportedly “given up on him.”

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The latest issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that WWE has "given up" on pushing Jack Swagger to superstardom as he has not quite panned out as officials had initially hoped.

When he first showed up on the WWE scene a little over a year ago, "The All-American American" was pegged as the future of the company due to his tremendous size. Nowadays, he's considered a comedy figure ranked slightly lower than Chavo Guerrero on the RAW pecking order. Furthermore, some feel he's in danger of becoming "this year's Chris Masters."

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God I really fucking hate WWE sometimes. They've danced this dance too often in the past. They'll push the hell out of a guy only to change their mind for no legitimate reason. Unreal.

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Old 11-26-2009, 11:42 AM   #2
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Thats shit. I was really getting into Ziggler and Swagger.
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:43 AM   #3
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Just for the record - both their last names have 2 g's in it.
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:43 AM   #4
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:47 AM   #5
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How has Swagger become a comedy character? Wasn't he just in the breakthrough battle royal on Monday?
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:53 AM   #6
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I love how the fact that Mysterio's refusal to drop leads them to 'give up'.
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Old 11-26-2009, 12:08 PM   #7
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I don't care much for Ziggler but I think Swagger is great. I love the way he moves.
Ironically, I was listening to some interview Kane did yesterday and he said guys like Ziggler have a great future in the company and he really admires what he des irony.
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Old 11-26-2009, 12:45 PM   #8
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First of all, I don't care what the fuck Mysterio has done for wrestling, when they tell you to drop the title for someone to try to help the product, you do it. You don't pick and choose who you want to lose the title to. I was really digging Ziggler but this would explain why Ziggler suddenly dropped Maria.

When it comes to Swagger, I never really cared for him. But this is what happens when you go on a show like RAW instead of SD. EX: MVP
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To be honest i never thought swagger had a chance
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Old 11-26-2009, 01:10 PM   #10
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The article on Ziggler looks like it was written in kayfabe. It's like 'You had 26 chances and have failed to win the IC title, therefore you're history'. Ziggler can only do so much if he's booked to lose IC title matches 26 times in a row.
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Old 11-26-2009, 01:11 PM   #11
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How the heck is Swagger a comedy figure ranked lower than Chavo?

When is the last time he did anything funny?

Chavo loses all of his matches. Swagger has been winning most of his, and has been in and out of the US title picture since arriving on Raw.

I guess since he tagged with Masters and Chavo on Raw, that instantly means he is down on their level.
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How the heck is Swagger a comedy figure ranked lower than Chavo?

When is the last time he did anything funny?

Chavo loses all of his matches. Swagger has been winning most of his, and has been in and out of the US title picture since arriving on Raw.

I guess since he tagged with Masters and Chavo on Raw, that instantly means he is down on their level.
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That mini feud Swagger had going with Bourne was fun. Then you blink your eyes and it was over.

As for Ziggy, looks as though the Post Spirit Squad curse is about to hit him. First Kenny, and now him. I think he can be saved with a change of venue to RAW if he sticks around long enough.
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Ziggler should go to ECW for now.
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How has Swagger become a comedy character? Wasn't he just in the breakthrough battle royal on Monday?
No,he lost his qualifying match. also this report sounds like rubbish,ill wait until hornswaggle and jimmy wang yang squash jack and dolph before believing it
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Swagger is 27 and has only been on TV for 14 months. And he's been good. WWE is so masochistic at times.
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Imagine ziggler v christian for the ecw title.
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The article on Ziggler looks like it was written in kayfabe. It's like 'You had 26 chances and have failed to win the IC title, therefore you're history'. Ziggler can only do so much if he's booked to lose IC title matches 26 times in a row.
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Ziggler will be IC champ once Morrison heads into the main event picture I believe but as for Swagger I felt he tad overrated plus his name is kinda lame.
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Old 11-26-2009, 02:09 PM   #21
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Jack Swagger is from Oklahoma and JR has been talking him up for months.JR probly has enough sway in the WWE that like triple h, he himself could get swagger to be pushed.perhaps cos JR's contract is winding down and swagger was on the losing team people are putting 2 and 2 together but i think its adding up to 5 cos i just dont see any reason to lose faith in jack.we will see over the coming weeks where he ends up tho, i guess if he and ziggler are left off TLC there could be some truth to this.I remember Orton was being demoted in 2007 cos he pissed off management but two months later he was world champion,the same was reported about CM Punk but he became world champion too so i wouldn't be suprised if WWE announced a 4 way TLC match between Miz, Mvp, Swagger and Henry(?) with Swagger going over.
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I like Swagger...If they are really giving up on him it would be to their own detriment. He might need JR to help him out. Thought they were trying to build new young talent...weird
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I seriously hope that there is another wrestling company that can get a slot on Mondays and compete with these fuckers because shit like this is why the generation today will not follow this shit for long. They don't have consistent people that they "grew up to" besides Cena, Orton and Batista.

I remember when i was growing up watching wrestling, you had your main players, but then had those people that you still liked and followed until they reached the top. I.E. Ultimate Warrior, Sting, Lex Luger, Bret Hart, HBK. People that weren't shoved in your face today and gone tomorrow. Does the WWE seriously think that stars can be built overnight? I'm sorry, but if Ziggler loses 26 fucking times, who is supposed to take this guy seriously?

Fuck man, and Swagger should've kept that "undefeated streak" thing going b/c people would've tuned into him at least for that. It kills two birds with one stone because it gives him some "credentials" (Goldberg's streak, Brock's youngest WHC, HBK's Grand Slam, etc) and people will actually give a shit about him out of curiousity. Is it just me, or does Sheamus and his relationship with AAA have something to do with all of this? lol i know it sounds retarded but those two i would've definitely put in that battle royal/title shot match on RAW before Sheamus.
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ya i consider swagger and ziggler as legit since they went toe to toe with Cucking Fena and JoMo respectively so why bury the two brightest young stars?? Sheamus is main eventing a ppv and he gets no reaction from the crowd yet jack/dolph both draw good heat.
By the way in Ireland we spell it 'seamus' so good job WWE, im assuming seamus cant spell anyway
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I have never been impressed with Swagger. I cannot take him seriously. I don't know why anyone praises his size. He looks like a big fuckin goof with pencils for arms. He's not charismatic at all, his taunt looks like he's mentally challenged and wants food, and I don't think he works well in the ring. All only my opinions, to each his or her own. I know he's got supporters, I will never be one of them.
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I agree with you there. I thought about your post and I can't even count the times I've talked wrestling with someone and used the phrase, "I grew up with that guy." Whoever that may be. That kind of stuff isn't as prevelent because of the lack of consistent, good characters.
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I have never been impressed with Swagger. I cannot take him seriously. I don't know why anyone praises his size. He looks like a big fuckin goof with pencils for arms. He's not charismatic at all, his taunt looks like he's mentally challenged and wants food, and I don't think he works well in the ring. All only my opinions, to each his or her own. I know he's got supporters, I will never be one of them.
mentally challenged and wants food,thats fucking priceless
he really really looks retarded
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I agree with you there. I thought about your post and I can't even count the times I've talked wrestling with someone and used the phrase, "I grew up with that guy." Whoever that may be. That kind of stuff isn't as prevelent because of the lack of consistent, good characters.
And going off of that, lets think about what is here today:

HBK - veteran
HHH - veteran
Kane - veteran
Jericho - veteran
Show - veteran
Mysterio - veteran
Edge -veteran
Taker - veteran
Christian - veteran
Regal - veteran

..get my point? These are people that I grew up to and these people have to be there to keep the ship going. You have people like Swagger & Ziggler, espeically, who definitely have a future with the company and witinin a year and some change, they just "give up". Exactly why UFC is going to put WWE out of business as far as the "physical entertainment" aspect goes.

lol...Steve Austin was wrestling waaaay before the "redneck, i don't give a shit about my boss and do what i want gimmick". See how that turned out? The only wrestler that i can think of that blossomed really quick was The Rock. His character was so awesome though that you had to get into it. Brock, yea...but personally at times i don't even take him seriously because he was only there for a couple of years and was given the spotlight and chose otherwise.

Not to go on a rant, but the Pipers, Hennings, Rudes, Halls, etc had to have been pissed from that.
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The article on Ziggler looks like it was written in kayfabe. It's like 'You had 26 chances and have failed to win the IC title, therefore you're history'. Ziggler can only do so much if he's booked to lose IC title matches 26 times in a row.
He could try to injure his opponents in the ring? The problem with that is if he fucks up and they end up being fine, he could get fired like Kennedy.
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I call bullshit on both of those articles.
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What, so is Rey turning into one of these political pricks now too? I thought I heard a while back that Rey was one of the guys wanting to push the younger guys. Obviously its not Dolph's fault that he is booked to lose these matches, then creative looks back and says he had chances.

I like Swagger as well too, and RAW has just been the burial ground for him, so he should have stayed on ECW longer, or at least went to SD.
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I'd like to know the exact reason or Rey's thinking on why he refuses to help out Ziggler. The 26 title chances shows the WWE is considering him as a future star or else they would never give him all those chances but the way the article is written seems like the reporter assumes no title win means he must suck.

Swagger seemed to be heading into future main event status with his rise from ECW and initial RAW feuds with Miz, Bourne, and Kofi but that basically ended when they pulled the plug on his "streak" after a few weeks. Reminds me of Santino's "streak" against Honky Tonk Man that ended way too early and since then Santino has been more of a comedic character.
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That article is shit. Sounds like a 10 year old wrote it. Plus when has Rey ever been said to throw his weight around backstage? Rubbish I tell you.
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Imagine Jack Swagger vs. John Cena at WrestleMania 26.

They had a match on RAW earlier this year, and that’s it. This may seem like a bit of a stretch for Swagger, but he can make it to where he needs to for this match to happen and could be really over by WrestleMania.
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I can only hope the article is false or making unfounded assumptions.

For one, Rey has no place to be saying who he should or shouldn't drop the title to. Although, one thing that makes me think that this article is BS is that surely as soon as Rey gets suspended, they make him drop the belt to Ziggler regardless if he wants to or not.
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Swagger's mini-slide (dropping the "I'm winning every match for the rest of the year" angle, being put on a horrible team in the battle royal qualifying, etc.) pretty much coincided with Sheamus' debut on Raw. Once the company gets over its infatuation with Sheamus, I'm sure Swagger will get another shot.

On Ziggler, could it be he's having trouble being taken seriously by fans because he has an absolutely ridiculous ring name? I've never liked the Dolph Ziggler name -- just let the guy wrestle as Nic Nemeth. He's good enough to get by on his ability if you let him. Unfortunately it looks like he's on the Shelton Benjamin Track to Midcard Purgatory for the time being.
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Let's just chill the fuck out and see what happens with them over the next few months going into Mania. This is on the level of overreaction over Punk losing a few matches.
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My favorite part about this is how "Swagger might become this year's Chris Masters" while Chris Masters is currently on the roster.
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