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Old 01-02-2010, 01:46 PM   #1
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Could Sheamus be a good "transitional champion"?
People seem to be giving Sheamus alot of crap because he came out of no where and won the championship but do you think he can be the wrestler to transition the title picture from the Cena, Triple H, Randy Ortron? I would like to see Sheamus begin a feud with Kofi, lose the title and then Kofi can win the title and feud with Randy. I just would like to see guys like MVP, Swagger, Kofi, Miz, and Borne move into the title picture before seeing Cena or Triple H as champ. So do you think Sheamus could be the "transitional champion"?
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:48 PM   #2
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He's obviously a transitional champion. There's no way he's going to have a long or decent reign. When's the last time a no name champ came out of nowhere and wasn't a transitional champ?
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He's obviously a transitional champion. There's no way he's going to have a long or decent reign. When's the last time a no name champ came out of nowhere and wasn't a transitional champ?
No, I'm saying he could be the guy to move the title picture away from guys like Cena, Triple H and Orton and he can feud with the younger guys on RAW.
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Oh, then no.
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they could have at least built him up a bit better, like a no sell gimmick and a few more wins over main eventers, that way the person that will finally beat him *cough* cena *cough* will be super over
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Its hard to see Sheamus as anything but transitional just as long as it dosent transition all the way back to Cena

I mean Sheamus beat up noble and like two other dudes and this somehow positioned him to challenge for the title. Its extremely hard for me to see this run lasting too long
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There've been like 30 or so WWE champs...probably 20 of them have been transitional champs. I think it's an overused term.
Unless you're Hogan, Bret, Shawn, Austin, Rock, Lesnar or Cena chances are you're a transitional champ.
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I don't think Sheamus will be a transitional champ because he'll be transitioning from Cena to Cena.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:26 PM   #9
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There've been like 30 or so WWE champs...probably 20 of them have been transitional champs. I think it's an overused term.
Unless you're Hogan, Bret, Shawn, Austin, Rock, Lesnar or Cena chances are you're a transitional champ.
You just killed Ric Flair and HHH with this post.
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You don't drop the title 16 or 13 times without being a transitional champ somewhere in there.
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HHH doesn't think so.
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He's obviously a transitional champion. There's no way he's going to have a long or decent reign. When's the last time a no name champ came out of nowhere and wasn't a transitional champ?
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:37 PM   #13
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You just killed Ric Flair and HHH with this post.
Yes and no. I'm talking about in WWE. In WWE Flair was arguably only a transitional champion.

As for HHH, he has had periods of both. He wasn't a transitional champion for most of 2000, or in 2003. But a lot of his reigns have been transitional.
I don't think it's a bad thing though.
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Triple H's most recent reign was transitional, I think. I barely remember it.
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All of his reigns since dropping to Goldberg have been really
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they could have at least built him up a bit better, like a no sell gimmick and a few more wins over main eventers, that way the person that will finally beat him *cough* cena *cough* will be super over
You mean Cena needs to get over?
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He's obviously a transitional champion. There's no way he's going to have a long or decent reign. When's the last time a no name champ came out of nowhere and wasn't a transitional champ?
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Triple H's most recent reign was transitional, I think. I barely remember it.
That's probably a fair assessment. It only happened to put a title into the Orton/McMahons feud for WrestleMania, and he dropped it to Orton by Backlash.

As for the original question about Sheamus, I think it's too early to tell. He hasn't been given the chance to say much on the mic other than "I put John Cena through a table" and wasn't even built up to be a credible upper midcard talent. In my mind, the best transitional champs are good enough on the mic to make themselves look credible and have been built up to be believable threats to the champion at any time. Edge has had a great run the past few years (when he's been able to wrestle) as a largely transitional guy. And as much as I like Jericho, he's almost always been a transitional guy. Really, there's nothing wrong with being a transitional guy...I just don't think Sheamus has shown much potential staying power.
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I don't think Sheamus would make a good transitional champion. I'd rather see this reign be used to make him a star, rather than abandon all hope on a man you have already invested a lot in. Put Sheamus over John Cena at the Royal Rumble in a Street Fight, or such, and then have him successfully defend the title against Shawn Michaels at Elimination Chamber.

At WrestleMania 26, let Triple H perform with his protoge on the grand stage. If Triple H wants to prove Sheamus can be the star he's supported him in being, this is the way to do it. Let Sheamus go over there, because we really don't need to see Triple H walk out of another WrestleMania as WWE Champion. By this stage, Sheamus will be like four months into his reign, and he can either stay champion for a bit, but it's probably a meaty enough run to take the belt off him without him being completely forgotten. Or they can keep Sheamus going as champion, and give him a bit of a monster reign. They could draft Sheamus to SmackDown!, and do a swap with the World Heavyweight Champion again.
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The thing about that is that Sheamus is pretty boring in the ring.
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The thing about that is that Sheamus is pretty boring.
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FUCK. Why is everyone talking about Sheamus being a transitional champ in the sense that he will only briefly hold the belt before dropping it. Did anyone read the original post?

The question is, will Sheamus be the guy that transitions the title picture from HHH/Orton/Cena to the likes of Kofi/Swagger/Miz/Etc.
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FUCK. Why is everyone talking about Sheamus being a transitional champ in the sense that he will only briefly hold the belt before dropping it. Did anyone read the original post?

The question is, will Sheamus be the guy that transitions the title picture from HHH/Orton/Cena to the likes of Kofi/Swagger/Miz/Etc.
Because he'll drop it back to HHH/Orton/Cena?
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The question is, will Sheamus be the guy that transitions the title picture from HHH/Orton/Cena to the likes of Kofi/Swagger/Miz/Etc.
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Oh, then no.
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The most interesting thing that could come of it is the development of a tweener Orton. They keep mentioning that Orton can't challenge Cena, but now is in the picture again. But what if, instead of having Orton do his usual screwover on Cena so he can get a shot against Sheamus, Orton ends up getting Sheamus DQ'd because he wants Cena involved when he wins the title? This sets up a subfeud between Sheamus and Orton where the crowd would probably back Orton, and Orton could roll more with his recent gimmick of talking about how he needs to earn his title back.
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:50 PM   #28
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FUCK. Why is everyone talking about Sheamus being a transitional champ in the sense that he will only briefly hold the belt before dropping it. Did anyone read the original post?

The question is, will Sheamus be the guy that transitions the title picture from HHH/Orton/Cena to the likes of Kofi/Swagger/Miz/Etc.
Say he does 'transition' the belt to Kofi/Swagger/Miz/Etc...what do you think HBK/Orton/Cena will be doing with their time? They're not exactly going anywhere.

I really wish Swagger was the champ now instead of Sheamus. He could have easily been swapped in for this role, and he could have done it a hell of a lot better. He's already had two great matches with Cena.
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FUCK. Why is everyone talking about Sheamus being a transitional champ in the sense that he will only briefly hold the belt before dropping it. Did anyone read the original post?

The question is, will Sheamus be the guy that transitions the title picture from HHH/Orton/Cena to the likes of Kofi/Swagger/Miz/Etc.
Who dose read Rollermacka's posts?

We all know what "transitional champion" means. Better terms could have been used. And if you look between the lines, you can take the answer 'mack was looking for from a lot of the posts here.

I don't understand what anyone would gain from beating Sheamus, besides becoming the new WWE Champion. He's still finding his footing. If the WWE pulls the rug out from under him now, what will Sheamus really be? And what does whoever defeat him really become? Sheamus needs to look like a beast before he can credibly elevate anyone by dropping the title to them.
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:34 AM   #30
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I'm starting to think that since Legacy is destined to be broken up soon that DiBiase will start he face turn by defeating Sheamus somehow in a fluke situation and start his feud with Orton leading up to WM26 perhaps.
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Old 01-04-2010, 02:06 PM   #31
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Going to say no mainly because they barely have him on tv and haven't made him a main part of the show compared to previous champions like Triple H, Orton, Cena, and Jericho. He will probably end up loosing the title to a Triple H, Orton, or Cena (or maybe HBK as a wild card pick) instead of a newer wrestler like Kofi or another high mid-card person.

Sheamus might end like similar to when Benoit won the title but instead of making Benoit look strong as a champion, he was basically ignored until it was time for Orton to win the title.
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Old 01-04-2010, 03:12 PM   #32
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Sheamus might end like similar to when Benoit won the title but instead of making Benoit look strong as a champion, he was basically ignored until it was time for Orton to win the title.
This is what they shouldn't do but looks like their well on their way to executing, which is something I can't understand. If Sheamus is in as good as we hear with Triple H, you would think they would be pushing him as more of a monster threat. Beating MVP would've been great, of it was a month or so prior to beating Cena.

I agree with Noid's idea of having him run with the title through Mania and be put over Triple H in a match held at mid show. A tleast that would mean something.
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