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Old 01-12-2010, 02:14 AM   #1
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WCW/TNA Similarities...
This is from a post a made a few months ago, but it still, obviously, stands now. Add your own.

WCW: Started as the NWA, then found its own identity.

TNA: Started as the NWA, then found its own identity.

WCW: Had issues with the NWA Championship, so dropped it.

TNA: Had issues with the NWA Championship, so dropped it.

WCW: Run by a billionaire who would put anything into the company.

TNA: Run by a billionaire who will put anything into the company.

WCW: Ran in a small soundstage in Orlando.

TNA: Runs in a small soundstage in Orlando.

WCW: Takes talent from the WWF, ECW and Japan to supplement its roster.

TNA: Takes talent from WWE, ROH and Japan to supplement its roster.

WCW: "Innovative" (read: dumb) gimmick matches.

TNA: "Innovative" (read: dumb) gimmick matches.

WCW: Awesome undercard, terrible main event.

TNA: Awesome undercard, terrible main event.

WCW: Bad booking. See: Vince Russo.

TNA: Bad booking. See: Vince Russo.

WCW: Hulk Hogan had power over all of WCW.

TNA: Hulk Hogan has power over all of TNA.

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Old 01-12-2010, 02:23 AM   #2
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:05 AM   #3
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TNA's owned by a billionaire? Who?
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:53 AM   #4
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also TNA's main event isn't really bad
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:38 AM   #5
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:53 AM   #6
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WCW: Bad booking. See: Vince Russo.

TNA: Bad booking. See: Vince Russo.
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Old 01-12-2010, 08:38 AM   #9
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Hopefully, we'll be able to put one more on the list and end this charade once and for all.

WCW: Competed with WWE as the only other major competitor and lost.
TNA: Competed with WWE as the only other major competitor and lost.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:35 AM   #10
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First of all, Bill Carter does not dump all his money into TNA. He merely funded its startup. Most of these comparisons you made are either coincidental as in there was no other good way to do it, or they are actually not bad ideas. If you're pissed that you can't see certain individuals in WWE right now, then that's too freakin bad. That's business. It's obviously worked in the past so why not do it again. The old WWF/E guys were willing to use themselves to make a different company better.

WCW lost after a time but did win for awhile Damninator.

How about one big and very important difference TNA has from WCW:

WCW had a board of directors who hated wrestling.

TNA has a chain of command that's actually trying to promote wresting, unlike its competition.

Think about what you post here before you post bullcrap.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:48 AM   #11
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:56 AM   #12
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:12 AM   #13
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Sure TNA's writers are good, they spend 6 weeks making an event and have a DQ finish in a Steel Cage opener.
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:21 AM   #14
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First of all, Bill Carter does not dump all his money into TNA. He merely funded its startup. Most of these comparisons you made are either coincidental as in there was no other good way to do it, or they are actually not bad ideas. If you're pissed that you can't see certain individuals in WWE right now, then that's too freakin bad. That's business. It's obviously worked in the past so why not do it again. The old WWF/E guys were willing to use themselves to make a different company better.
I don't care where these former WWE wrestlers go. What I do care about is that they come in as equal or BETTER than TNA's wrestlers. You're telling me that's a good thing? That the competition's talent is BETTER than their own?

That's what killed TNA in the first place.
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:35 AM   #15
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TNA killed already eh?.....anyway, I guess yeah that's exactly what I'm telling you. I mean in reality they have to be better otherwise they wouldn't have been in the big company in the first place right? I mean you're telling me that TNA brings in Kurt Angle or Booker T or whomever, and members of the original TNA cast are just going to walk all over them? In real life that doesn't happen. It would not have been believable, and I believe the majority of fans will go along with that too. I mean let's take a look at what WWE has done with Christian since he came back.....ECW champion....and everyone knows he's better than that and has criticised this ever since it happened. So what do you do? You think that bringing in these WWE guys and burying them under the current roster is the way to go? Sounds like a waste of money to me.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:08 PM   #16
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You don't oversell them at the expense of the home talent and the talent who built the company and got over huge in the first place.

By "That's what killed TNA in the first place." I meant that Joe, AJ, Daniels ect should be at the very top of the card, and should have been for the last four years at least or so. They weren't and aren't. Daniels is no where near where he should be, Joe's doing fuck all, and AJ is just now getting his shit together in the main event again after dawdling for years.

The WWE talent can be good for them, but they shouldn't be put over the home talent JUST because they were in WWE. Give them equal time to the home grown talent, and don't act like they're the be-all and end-all. That's just going to kill what you already have, which it has in the past and likely will in the near future.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:11 PM   #17
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I have no desire to see Daniels near the very top of the card, ditto Joe in those oversized boxer shorts
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:37 PM   #18
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WWWF/WWF/WWE actually shares some of the stuff in that list such as

Started as the NWA, then found its own identity & Had issues with the NWA Championship, so dropped it. Although to be fair it was Vince's father who started with the NWA and Vince himself is the one who broke away.

The parts about the billionaire, small sound stages, and giving Hogan power occurred in a lesser extent in the WWE than WCW and TNA since either Vince was only a millionaire when he took over or limited Hogan from having absolute power.

Another good comparison would be :
WCW : Started doing shows on Monday to start the Monday Night War
TNA : Started doing test shows on Monday to start Monday Night War II
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:59 PM   #19
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you can make most of those comparisons with wwf/e

also scratch the terrible main event one
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:01 PM   #20
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TNA and WCW do have a few things in common I just hope they don't have the same ending in common I'd hate to see WWE with no competition again as I see this whole TNA vs WWE thing making WWE actually try to entertain us
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Old 01-13-2010, 01:44 AM   #21
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It is all very similar of course. And true a lot of those comparisons are accurate towards WWE. I think TNA has the fundamental differences to be similar yet better than WCW.

I like the fact that I felt like WCW was on, and it wasn't WCW just a similar production and familiar faces. TNA has a lot of matured WCW leaders that I think need TNA to succeed not only because they want to beat Vince, but the Economy sucks and both Bischoff, Hogan, and Dixie all live pretty extravagant lifestyles. So I think it's fair to say they have a little bit more "gut" invested in this than the WCW leaders did. WCW was a fuck toy to some guys who could care less, and only was around because Ted wanted wrestling on TBS. TNA needs to be good to survive, WCW didn't feel that threat for a long time.
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Old 01-13-2010, 01:59 AM   #22
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Old 01-13-2010, 02:03 AM   #23
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Old 01-13-2010, 11:02 AM   #24
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People are being way too over the top about the bringing in guys from other federations shit. Think someone said about AJ in WCW, that's ridiculous. Bringing in established stars is absolutely fine. It's guys like The Nastys who should be questioned, however, their TNA stint will be short, no doubt.

TNA's main event isn't too bad either, needs work but it's better than Sheamus Cena Orton and Kofi, IMO.
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People are being way too over the top about the bringing in guys from other federations shit. Think someone said about AJ in WCW, that's ridiculous. Bringing in established stars is absolutely fine. It's guys like The Nastys who should be questioned, however, their TNA stint will be short, no doubt.

TNA's main event isn't too bad either, needs work but it's better than Sheamus Cena Orton and Kofi, IMO.
I agree TNA's main event right now is much better than WWE's.
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Old 01-13-2010, 05:30 PM   #26
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One word for you....STING..he was the Franchise in WCW and is still the Franchise in TNA
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both have time limits on matches
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:27 AM   #29
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I love that, time limit draws ftw!
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