Which 'Die Hard' film is the best?

[Dazz]

I have always preffered Die Hard With a Vengence, mainly because Willis doesn't beat a ridicolous amount of bad guys, and because it isn't set in just one location. But no one else seems to agree with me.

I was wondering which Die Hard movie you think is best, and why?

[Boondock Saint]

The first. Although I like 3 a lot, the fact that he does beat a ridiculous amount of bad guys in the original makes it one of those action movies that kickass because of that fact alone. Kinda like Commando, but with better acting and effects.

[Savio]

I thought this was done before.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

The first, if for nothing else, simply for " HO HO HO, I've got an Uzi."

[el fregadero]

Die Hard.

[Kristanna Vola]

I prefer Die Hard 2...

[Dazz]

Originally Posted by Kristanna Vola I prefer Die Hard 2...

Then vote for it

And What Would Kevin Do, its 'Now I've got a machine gun. Ho Ho Ho'

I like the 'yipee yay ay mother****er' more.

[Shaggy]

The first Die Hard movie is my favortie movie of all times. I own so many different versions of the Die Hard movies that its unreal.

[Dazz]

Originally Posted by Shaggy The first Die Hard movie is my favortie movie of all times. I own so many different versions of the Die Hard movies that its unreal.

Yeah I was going to get the special edition 2 disc Die Hard 1, but that was £20, I got all three in a box set from the same place for £15. God bless Play.com.

[SukkaChump]

was a tough choice between 1 and with a vengance, but i went with a vengance, mainly because i liked the added character of Samuel L Jackson O.o

[Smitty]

One is the best, but Vengeance is very very close. I love all of the movies though. Depending on my mood, I'll say the third is the best.

[Dazz]

I am still confused as to how the work out the water bottles at the fountain in Die Hard With a Vengence. I understand that the 5 gallon bottle is full, and that the 3 gallon bottle has two gallons in it, so they pour one gallon from the 5 gallon bottle into the 3 gallon bottle which fills up the 3 gallon bottle, and means that exactly one gallon has left the 5 gallon bottle so there are four gallons left, which is what they needed. The big question is, how the hell did they get exactly two gallns in the 3 gallon bottle to start with? They didn't show that part.

[Shaggy]

Originally Posted by Dazz Yeah I was going to get the special edition 2 disc Die Hard 1, but that was £20, I got all three in a box set from the same place for £15. God bless Play.com.

Yea I have the original trilogy on DVD, I bought the Special Edition DVD when it came out, I have the special Edition VHS which I got for my moms since she didnt have a dvd player, I had the regular versions on VHS before the special and then I have the made for TV ones taped just for the hell of it.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Dazz I am still confused as to how the work out the water bottles at the fountain in Die Hard With a Vengence. I understand that the 5 gallon bottle is full, and that the 3 gallon bottle has two gallons in it, so they pour one gallon from the 5 gallon bottle into the 3 gallon bottle which fills up the 3 gallon bottle, and means that exactly one gallon has left the 5 gallon bottle so there are four gallons left, which is what they needed. The big question is, how the hell did they get exactly two gallns in the 3 gallon bottle to start with? They didn't show that part.

• Take the 5 gallon bottle and fill it all the way.
• Pour water from the 5 gallon bottle into the 3 gallon bottle and fill it all the way to the top, leaving 2 gallons left in your 5 gallon bottle
• Dump out all of the water in the 3 gallon bottle
• Take the 2 gallons in your 5 gallon bottle and pour it into the 3 gallon bottle
• Now fill your 5 gallon bottle completely again.
• Take pour as much water as you can into the 3 gallon bottle (which has 2 gallons in it) and fill it completely.
• After filling that 1 gallon left of space in the 3 gallon bottle, you should have exactly 4 gallons in your 5 gallon bottle

[Dazz]

Originally Posted by Smitty Take the 5 gallon bottle and fill it all the way. Pour water from the 5 gallon bottle into the 3 gallon bottle and fill it all the way to the top, leaving 2 gallons left in your 5 gallon bottle Dump out all of the water in the 3 gallon bottle Take the 2 gallons in your 5 gallon bottle and pour it into the 3 gallon bottle Now fill your 5 gallon bottle completely again. Take pour as much water as you can into the 3 gallon bottle (which has 2 gallons in it) and fill it completely. After filling that 1 gallon left of space in the 3 gallon bottle, you should have exactly 4 gallons in your 5 gallon bottle

Your a genius. I kept watching that part over and over again earlier, even with the subtitles on, and I still didn't understand all of it. just everything after when the 3 gallon bottle has 2 gallons in it.

Did you understand it at the time, or work it out yourself afterwards?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Dazz Your a genius. I kept watching that part over and over again earlier, even with the subtitles on, and I still didn't understand all of it. just everything after when the 3 gallon bottle has 2 gallons in it. Did you understand it at the time, or work it out yourself afterwards?

One of my friends and I spent like a half hour drawing it out and shit, because that part of the movie plagued me for years haha.

[Dazz]

Originally Posted by Smitty One of my friends and I spent like a half hour drawing it out and shit, because that part of the movie plagued me for years haha.

Same with me. I recorded it off T.V, and spent ages trying to wrok it out, then I got the trilogy the other day, so I watched Die Hard with a Vengence today, and I kept pausing it, watching it with subtitles and shit, and I still couldn't understand where they got the 2 gallons in the 3 gallon bottle from.

Your the first person I know who knows how they did it.

[Boondock Saint]

Just watched Die Hard for class tonight.

[JJ Moore]

between one and vengence, cant really decide :s two how ever was terrible, trygin to ride the sucess of the first one

[Dazz]

Originally Posted by JJ Moore between one and vengence, cant really decide :s two how ever was terrible, trygin to ride the sucess of the first one

Yeah I wouldn't call it shit. But the main reason I wouldn't say two is my favourite is becase of its similarities to the first one:
The Police don't want Willis to help
Willis tells the police what to do
Willis wants to help mainly because of his wife
He does it all on his own
It's only set in one location throughout the film

There were prolly others I though of before but can't remember.

But Die Hard 2 does have the best ending out of the three of them.

[Jonster]

Originally Posted by Smitty Take the 5 gallon bottle and fill it all the way. Pour water from the 5 gallon bottle into the 3 gallon bottle and fill it all the way to the top, leaving 2 gallons left in your 5 gallon bottle Dump out all of the water in the 3 gallon bottle Take the 2 gallons in your 5 gallon bottle and pour it into the 3 gallon bottle Now fill your 5 gallon bottle completely again. Take pour as much water as you can into the 3 gallon bottle (which has 2 gallons in it) and fill it completely. After filling that 1 gallon left of space in the 3 gallon bottle, you should have exactly 4 gallons in your 5 gallon bottle

I personally do it differently, but it's been so long since I seen the movie I can't remember which way they did it...

[Dazz]

Originally Posted by jonster I personally do it differently, but it's been so long since I seen the movie I can't remember which way they did it...

In the movie, they show Simon, and then the camera goes back to McLean and Zuess and then they already has 2 gallons in one of the bottles. They do not explain it fully in the film, you have to work the start bit out for yourself.

[Jonster]

Ah righty. Kinda kills that.
In case you care, the way I do it is:

• Fill up 3 gallon bottle
• Pour all of the 3 gallon bottle into 5 gallon bottle
• Fill 3 gallon bottle up again
• Fill 5 gallon bottle to top, using the water from the 3 gallon bottle - leaving 1 gallon in 3 gallon bottle
• Empty 5 gallon bottle
• Pour the single gallon into 5 gallon bottle
• Fill 3 gallon bottle up, and pour into 5 gallon bottle, giving 4 gallons in 5 gallon bottle

But that obviously doesn't work for the movie, with them having 2 gallons in one of the bottles already.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

At the time 1 was a groundbreaking movie, so it gets the nod for that as much as anything. You just can't overlook Alan Rickman either, Hans is one of the great cinema villains of the modern era.

3 I like, a lot, more than most people I know actually, but I dunno...I think at times it just seems to slow down a bit too much. Like the parts where they're trying to evacuate the school, yeah great but it's not Willis and/or Jackson on screen, and it kinda drags as a result. I'm not saying that's the *only* reason but...ionno. Compared to the first it just doesn't have the energy, I don't think - and of course there's less tension, what with 1 being in an enclosed space.

[Jonster]

And on subject, I voted for 3 because I liked it more when I was younger, but it has been quite a few years since I watched 2 or 3.
Die Hard itself is on Sky Movies every so often, so get to catch it sometimes then.

But Die Hard and Die Hard 3 (yes I'm feeling very lazy right now), are kinda quite different. Die Hard is very tense, whereas Die Hard 3 is a mis-matched pair movie, with puzzles leading them round New York. It's very clever the way it's done, and I think if I only just watched them now, I couldn't pick them apart.

[Dazz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning At the time 1 was a groundbreaking movie, so it gets the nod for that as much as anything. You just can't overlook Alan Rickman either, Hans is one of the great cinema villains of the modern era. 3 I like, a lot, more than most people I know actually, but I dunno...I think at times it just seems to slow down a bit too much. Like the parts where they're trying to evacuate the school, yeah great but it's not Willis and/or Jackson on screen, and it kinda drags as a result. I'm not saying that's the *only* reason but...ionno. Compared to the first it just doesn't have the energy, I don't think - and of course there's less tension, what with 1 being in an enclosed space.

So you wanted Willis and Jackson to be attention hoares in the last one?

It makes sense though, because Simon's idea was to distract the whole police department, whilst trying to kill Willis and swipe billions of dollars worth of gold. If Willis was at the school, then he wouldn't have died, and Jackson had to be with Willis beause it was the way Simon wanted to play the game.

When I watched Die Hard it was hardly groundbreaking, so I guess I didn't appreiacte it as much as you did.

As I have said, one of the drawbacks of Die Hard 2 IMO is that it is one location, which is too similar to the first one, I think it's good that Die Hard 3 (also being lazy) doesn't have it in an enclosed space.

[Dazz]

Originally Posted by jonster And on subject, I voted for 3 because I liked it more when I was younger, but it has been quite a few years since I watched 2 or 3. Die Hard itself is on Sky Movies every so often, so get to catch it sometimes then. But Die Hard and Die Hard 3 (yes I'm feeling very lazy right now), are kinda quite different. Die Hard is very tense, whereas Die Hard 3 is a mis-matched pair movie, with puzzles leading them round New York. It's very clever the way it's done, and I think if I only just watched them now, I couldn't pick them apart.

Yeah it was years between me watching them for the first time, but I watched a Die Hard movie every night, so it made it hard for me to pick them apart too, the only reason Vengeance got the vote was because from when I saw it the first time it was one of my favourite movies ever.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Originally Posted by Dazz So you wanted Willis and Jackson to be attention hoares in the last one? It makes sense though, because Simon's idea was to distract the whole police department, whilst trying to kill Willis and swipe billions of dollars worth of gold. If Willis was at the school, then he wouldn't have died, and Jackson had to be with Willis beause it was the way Simon wanted to play the game.

No what I'm saying is the way the film is structured they had to have intervals while Willis and Jackson moved around the city - to follow them around step for step would've been a disaster. What it comes down to is what was in the intervals or how they were handled...I just didn't find them that entertaining and it kinda feels like dead air to me

When I watched Die Hard it was hardly groundbreaking, so I guess I didn't appreiacte it as much as you did.

LOL I didn't watch it until about the mid-90s at the earliest and by then I'd seen plenty similar. What I mean is at the time it was released there hadn't really been anything like it before, so it deserves credit there.

I like the fact 3 isn't in an enclosed space because as you say, it adds variety (mind you, I dunno if you can compare an entire airport to one building...meh). Having said that if the early - and I'm talking years ago - rumours of Die Hard 4 are to be believed it'll be set in a jungle. Probably the least enclosed space you can get to set an action film in, but it sure as hell doesn't strike me as a good idea.

[Jonster]

I dunno, jungles, while not terribly enclosed, can make for tense encounters. I mean there's lots of trees, so visions impared, there's lots of places where people can hide ok-ish because of it, but yeah, it still wouldn't be a good idea.

[Dazz]

Yeah I hope they don't make a fourth Die Hard in the jungle. I think they should just leave it as the three films, but if there is a fourth, it should be set in a normal place. Maybe not America, but somewhere normal just a different country. What reason would McLean go to the jungle for? Also, The Rundown (AKA Welcome to the Jungle) got boring after a while of being set in the jungle.