NBA 2010 Off Season Thread

[RP]

i hope this all fails horribly

[Crimson]

BURNING LEBRON JERSEYS!! HAHA

[Juan]

lol

[RP]

ahahahaha yes ! Cleveland burning his jersey. Lebron " Well i mean man... I cant get involved "

ROFL

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Here we go Brownies, here we go.

[Crimson]

Well there's the top heel in sports now..him and Tiger

[RP]

Lebron is a peice of shit. He didnt have to do this to Cleveland on live television for an hour. I mean, he's practically been stabbing Cleveland in the heart for an hour now. Someone pull this dude off Clevelands dead corpse.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>They already scrolled that a computer sim projected them to go 66-16 and the #1 seed in the East next season.</font>

[Crimson]

Woulda been great if Tiger showed up with Pat Riley and a bunch of slutty women around them

[RP]

somewhere Craig Ehlo is suiting up and coming out of retirement.

[Juan]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2670/4057640532_996ae1c42b_o.png

[Jeritron]

Best part of the night is when they were going to tape of the reaction in Cleveland and someone on the panel goes "oh no..."

[Krimzon7]

Now I believe that story that LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Paul all decided they'd play together in the NBA while they were in the Olympics. In 2012 Paul will join them.

It's the NBA version of the Kliq.

Life imitating Art. I am fapping to this post now!

[Loose Cannon]

did they show the Cavs fans burning his jersey? lol

I went downstairs for a sec

[McLegend]

somewhere Craig Ehlo is suiting up and coming out of retirement.

Then Cavs Fans get even closeer to the Edge.

[Crimson]

Lebron is a peice of shit. He didnt have to do this to Cleveland on live television for an hour. I mean, he's practically been stabbing Cleveland in the heart for an hour now. Someone pull this dude off Clevelands dead corpse.

He's chopped the city's head off and literally holding it up on live television

[Juan]

did they show the Cavs fans burning his jersey? lol

I went downstairs for a sec

ya

[RP]

Seriously, at first i couldnt wait for Cleveland to get trucked on live television, but now i cant stop thinking about how I would feel if this was Peyton Manning doing this to Indianapolis. I would seriously be broken as a fan of anything and would probably consider never watching sports again.

[Crimson]

Adam Morrison will be in the Heat next year

[Dragon]

Knicks hurt themselves by not doing anything and leaking out Plan B/C/D/E once they started to doubt in getting Lebron or Wade/Bosh. Also didn't help how sudden Heat and Chicago gained cap space and could match the Knicks in a bidding war.

Miami and Chicago getting that cap space really killed them. The one thing they had going into the offseason was they could sign two max guys. Really, it wouldn't be surprising if these three guys knew all along they were going to Miami. Apparently they talked about doing this since a couple years back. Not sure if NY ever had a chance if these 3 guys had an idea of this all along.

[Jeritron]

I hate Lebron so much.

[McLegend]

I really wonder if Lebron is regretting this special at this moment.

[Jeritron]

"I"m just gonna keep being great."

[Jeritron]

I really wonder if Lebron is regretting this special at this moment.

He won't recover from this shit. He's going to be a huge heel everywhere but Miami now, and he's more of the anti-Jordan than Jordan.

[RP]

If i was Mario Chalmers i'd be like " Fuck a Lebron James nugggga! "

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He's been planning this since 2007. How's that feel, Cleveland? No wonder he mailed it in during the playoffs.

[Jeritron]

I love how he said it's not about him downgrading D-Wade or D-Wade downgrading Bosh. Way to rank players. Why doesn't he say downgrading him?

[Evil Vito]

Miami and Chicago getting that cap space really killed them. The one thing they had going into the offseason was they could sign two max guys. Really, it wouldn't be surprising if these three guys knew all along they were going to Miami. Apparently they talked about doing this since a couple years back. Not sure if NY ever had a chance if these 3 guys had an idea of this all along.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, I had heard about that too...I also heard that they were thinking of going to the Knicks when they first decided on this. But then Miami and Chicago got cap space, and there you go.</font>

[RP]

ESPN hasnt asked a good question at all. They just want to lick this guys black salty balls.

[Juan]

lol @ this fan question. Are you kidding me, ESPN???

[McLegend]

Lol that facebook question was the most absurd thing ever.

[McLegend]

STU SCOTT WITH THE OBAMA NAME DROP.

[Jeritron]

I would pay to be able to ask him one tough question right now. That's how awful ESPN is with their soft toss.

[Juan]

I bet all the other questions had some kind of profanity in them.

[RP]

" Lebron, when did you know you were leaving Cleveland? In 2007 when you played in the Olympics? In 2009 when Delonte doggystyled your mom? Or in 2010 when you threw the Celtics series? "

[RP]

David Lee traded

[Loose Cannon]

SWEVRE

[RP]

FUCK YOU LEBRON AND FUCK THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB!

[Juan]

lol. ridiculous.

[RP]

Lebron does it for the kids. He just taught them how to never be loyal to anything or anyone in life.

[alvarado52]

I would pay to be able to ask him one tough question right now. That's how awful ESPN is with their soft toss.

this.


Okay, so who the hell else is on the Heat then? The Celts got lucky that Rondo turned out to be all-star caliber...but im not so sure the heat have that potential

[RP]

LOL Celtics signed J.O. AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

[McLegend]

What was the Knicks statement about Lebron going to Miami?

[Juan]

The Heat currently have 5 players on their roster. The Big Three, Mario Chalmers (point guard) and Michael Beasley (forward)

[Nark Order]

With all this talk of Lebron, nobody is talking about the NBA Champion Lakers. Shame.

[Emperor Smeat]

this.


Okay, so who the hell else is on the Heat then? The Celts got lucky that Rondo turned out to be all-star caliber...but im not so sure the heat have that potential

Right now just Mario Chalmers since none of the predictions had Beasely on the team if Lebron was on the team. Then their unsigned draft picks to get to 6-7 players.

[alvarado52]

Im so tired of 'big three's'.

The only big three in my heart with Dirk, Nash, and Finley.

[Juan]

With all this talk of Lebron, nobody is talking about the NBA Champion Lakers. Shame.

Good one, Dave Wadding.

[Jeritron]

I can't imagine how awesome it's going to be if they don't win a championship. Seeing them knocked off in the playoffs 2-3 years in a row and then start to collapse would be the greatest thing ever

[alvarado52]

Lakers fanship aside...the fact that LeBron has overshadowed everything in the league is pretty disgusting to me.

[Nark Order]

Not that you didn't already notice what I just pointed out.

[Nark Order]

Lakers fanship aside...the fact that LeBron has overshadowed everything in the league is pretty disgusting to me.

lol, it's so amazing to me right now.

[alvarado52]

Yeah, if they get knocked out the playoffs early often, shit will hit the fan. I can hear the trade demands now...

[Nark Order]

I can't imagine how awesome it's going to be if they don't win a championship. Seeing them knocked off in the playoffs 2-3 years in a row and then start to collapse would be the greatest thing ever

Do you really think that's going to happen though? In the first year maybe, but I think we have a Dynasty on our hands here.

Probably not right off the bat though.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's nice that a city like Miami, full of some of the least genuine people in America, will now house one of the least genuine people on the planet.

[Evil Vito]

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4749/nbanwo.jpg

[alvarado52]

Dunno what to say to this really. You have 5 guys on a roster, obviously youre gonna have those players who jump on with hopes of a championship before they retire, so im sure theyll have a full squad, but this just seems like alot of young ego on one team.

At least when KG and Allen joined the celts, they were mature vets who were truly prepared to take lesser roles and shared responsibility.

[Jeritron]

Do you really think that's going to happen though? In the first year maybe, but I think we have a Dynasty on our hands here.

Probably not right off the bat though.

You literally just spewed out the exact shit you were just told by the panel on ESPN.

Yea they'll probably be awesome but why don't you wait and see. Also, are you just happy about this because you hate the Lakers and want attention shifted?

[Nark Order]

So, who's going to "tone down the offense"? It's going to have to be LeBron. He would be the most solid choice for a support role.

[Jeritron]

How can you dub a team a dynasty 30 minutes after they sign a player? You have to win 3 world titles minimum to be considered a dynasty, and they haven't even taken the court yet. Slow it down. Michael Wilbon comes out and predicts 3 titles in 4 years and everyones ready to put it in the record books. Classic shit.

[alvarado52]

Do you really think that's going to happen though? In the first year maybe, but I think we have a Dynasty on our hands here.

Probably not right off the bat though.

All thats certain is that

1) they will contend

and

2) the NBA/Media has their darlings to pamper for the next 5 years.

[Emperor Smeat]

It's nice that a city like Miami, full of some of the least genuine people in America, will now house one of the least genuine people on the planet.

Whats even more amazing is Florida traditionally isn't a pro sports hotbed in terms of support so once the new Big 3 leave or start to stink, the fans won't show up at games like usual (ex. Marlins, TB Rays, TB Bucs, Lightning, MLS Fusion).

Only pro team that has kept support was Miami Dolphins and they had to compete with the better popular Florida college football teams.

[Nark Order]

You literally just spewed out the exact shit you were just told by the panel on ESPN.

Yea they'll probably be awesome but why don't you wait and see. Also, are you just happy about this because you hate the Lakers and want attention shifted?

I watched the first 20 minutes of the show and then had to go for a run. It's just a common sense thought. Thanks for being a jerk about it though.

And yes. I love that Lakers fans are flipping out about the lack of attention right now. It's amazing to me.

[Juan]

lol who's flipping out over lack of attention? Are you being 100% serious right now?? You can't be.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Lebron and D Wade both like playing the point. Mario Chalmers is never going to touch the ball.

[McLegend]

lol who's flipping out? Are you being 100% serious right now?? You can't be.

Jerition is flipping out a little. He's kind of emotional right now.

[alvarado52]

And yes. I love that Lakers fans are flipping out about the lack of attention right now. It's amazing to me.

um...who's flipping out exactly? Im fairly certain 98% of the posters that have been in this discussion during the 'decision' arent Laker fans.

Im not flipping out. They gutted their team and got 3 all-stars...ive seen this all before. If they win they win, if not, whatever.

The Lakers are still the champions until dethroned...just like any other sport.

Who's flipping out about lack of attention?

[Jeritron]

I love that he's got a 5 year deal and will be out of their so fast if they don't win any rings by then. His reputation as a locust will be sealed to the people who don't realize it now if it gets to be 2015 and he still doesn't have a ring, and goes to the best market instead of having any semblance of loyalty.

[Juan]

Jerition is flipping out a little. He's kind of emotional right now.

He's a Celtics fan though. He's allowed to criticize LeBron James.

[Jeritron]

Jerition is flipping out a little. He's kind of emotional right now.

How am I being emotional? I'm expressing the same opinions as just about everyone else in this thread

[Nark Order]

lol, this is awesome.

[Krimzon7]

Seriously, at first i couldnt wait for Cleveland to get trucked on live television, but now i cant stop thinking about how I would feel if this was Peyton Manning doing this to Indianapolis. I would seriously be broken as a fan of anything and would probably consider never watching sports again.

Lesson learned: DON'T BE AN UNGRATEFUL DICK TO THE ONLY REASON YOUR SHITHOLE CITY HAS TO BE PROUD! Those booing, cackling fans in Cleveland ran him out of there. That jackass Front office ran him outta town. Mo Fucking Peterson? Delante Fucking(his mom) West? Cleveland should have just chartered him a jet out of town.

[alvarado52]

Look, fact is...they are young. Are the 'hungry'? I dunno, LeBron and Bosh are attention whores. Wade has battled and carried his team for years...ive never seen him tank a series like LeBron.

Like i said, they will contend...but for anyone to claim its a 'dynasty' is nuts. We havent seem their chemistry on court, hell...they dont even have a full squad right now.

[Jeritron]

Narc and McLegend are making shit up

[Juan]

lol, this is awesome.

ok you win. I'm pissed that ESPN and NBA TV don't talk about Kobe and the Lakers 24/7. You got me!

[Krimzon7]

I love that he's got a 5 year deal and will be out of their so fast if they don't win any rings by then. His reputation as a locust will be sealed to the people who don't realize it now if it gets to be 2015 and he still doesn't have a ring, and goes to the best market instead of having any semblance of loyalty.

I honestly think that he'll be bolting to Brooklyn anyway, no matter how many rings he wins.

AND HE WILL WIN SOME RINGS

[McLegend]

How am I being emotional? I'm expressing the same opinions as just about everyone else in this thread
Kind of seems like you are overreacting a little.

[Emperor Smeat]

:rofl: Chris Bosh twitter account basically hinted Lebron was going to Miami hours before it was official.

Lots of tweets about everyone needs to watch the decision and him being fit from his yearly physical while promoting The Decision.

http://twitter.com/chrisbosh

[Jeritron]

Kind of seems like you are overreacting a little.

Explain.

[Loose Cannon]

Shaq is prob on the phone with the Heat right now

[Nark Order]

It has a very good chance at working like they wanted it to work and they have an extremely good chance at AT LEAST the playoffs. Nobody is guaranteeing victory or anything. If they can learn to work together cohesively, they have a HELL of a shot at not only one championship, but multiple championships. Nobody here (that I see) is saying that they're going to 100% steam roll over all their competition.

But to not recognize that they have a VERY good chance at succeeding like intended, that's being silly.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Is LeBron still considered to be as big of a dickhead right now if he had signed with the Knicks, Bulls, Nets, Clippers, or anybody BUT the Cavs or Heat?</font>

[Juan]

It has a very good chance at working like they wanted it to work and they have an extremely good chance at AT LEAST the playoffs. Nobody is guaranteeing victory or anything. If they can learn to work together cohesively, they have a HELL of a shot at not only one championship, but multiple championships. Nobody here (that I see) is saying that they're going to 100% steam roll over all their competition.

But to not recognize that they have a VERY good chance at succeeding like intended, that's being silly.

I don't think anyone said they don't have a chance at succeeding. I think calling them a dynasty is a bit premature tho, which is what Jeritron was saying.

[Jeritron]

It has a very good chance at working like they wanted it to work and they have an extremely good chance at AT LEAST the playoffs. Nobody is guaranteeing victory or anything. If they can learn to work together cohesively, they have a HELL of a shot at not only one championship, but multiple championships. Nobody here (that I see) is saying that they're going to 100% steam roll over all their competition.

But to not recognize that they have a VERY good chance at succeeding like intended, that's being silly.

I said they will most likely be awesome. I just think the word dynasty being thrown out there is ridiculous. Winning 1 championship is hard enough, let alone 3.

Apparently I'm overreacting for voicing my disapproval of this sentiment. I think it's the opposite though. I think the other side is overreacting.
I also thought Lebron was classless before the announcement, so I'm not really changing my tune here. Just voicing my thoughts on the matter.

[Nark Order]

Explain.

You're just going on the offensive a bit. That's all.

And you basically came out and said earlier that anybody that's a fan of Lebron James is a Nike Zombie, and doesn't "understand" that they're just being controlled to think that way. You're being a little unfair, methinks.

[alvarado52]

so apparently if you shit on LeBron James, youre a Laker fan who is overreacting.

LeBron is a dickhead. He is not a humble individual, the fact that he had to announce his decision on ESPN shows that. The Fact that he got on Larry King during the finals shows that.

[Jeritron]

I'm not on the offensive more than anyone else is though, that's what I'm saying. You can read every post in this thread and it's no different than anyone else. I just strongly dislike Lebron and this ordeal.

I never came out and said that shit either. I said the NBA has hyped him into something he's not, but that he's a great player. I said that thinking he's Michael Jordan is ridiculous.

[Krimzon7]

Shaq is prob on the phone with the Heat right now

hey pat, it's me shaq daddy. look, i need a place to play, and yall need bodies. cccccccccccaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnn yyyyyyyyyyyyooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuu dig it? so, yeah, i'm coming back to miami. gonna play for minimum wage. Pay me hourly, i don't give a fuck, i have to get another ring, kobe got five, and he's still married, and he still raping.

I want my locker right by Lebron's

[McLegend]

Explain.

You have no dog in this fight.

Him to going to Miami is a great move. Him switching teams his fine. People are obivously going to try and speculate this team winning titles. So why get mad about it? Why do you care about this specualtion? It's always going to happen you have to get over it. For someone who doesn't pay attention to the news cycle why do you care so much? It really baffles me? It really doesn't make sense.

Also is it really that unreasonable to try and predict a team with the 3 of the top 15 players in the league can win multiple titles?

The problem isn't him going to Miami, it's the hour special and why he felt the need to do this. He had this decision made days ago so why drag it out other then to stroke your ego? So going after Lebron James for that is fine.

[Jeritron]

My dog in this fight is having an opinion as a national sports fan.

[Juan]

Calm down, Jeritron.

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>Is LeBron still considered to be as big of a dickhead right now if he had signed with the Knicks, Bulls, Nets, Clippers, or anybody BUT the Cavs or Heat?</font>

I think popular opinion was on a few teams:

Knicks = money
Bulls = quit and go to the rival since he proved he couldn't "punish" Chicago for Jordan era
Nets = same as Knicks
Clippers = :rofl:, NBA would be drooling at an inter-city Lebron vs Kobe feud
Heat = proves he isn't the dominate player/#1 guy player and needs another star player (Lebron as the Pippen and not the Jordan of the Heat).

Cavs would have been he wants to get a title but also demand better help

[Schlomey]

sad to see lebron leave our hometown. Can't say I blame him. He really didn't have the support needed to be champions. Lacked the depth.

This new power 3 is going to either be amazing or be a real big letdown. I dunno fellas..thats a shit ton of ego on 1 court.

Time will tell.


Any clue who rounds out the starting five?

[Jeritron]

The problem isn't him going to Miami, it's the hour special and why he felt the need to do this. He had this decision made days ago so why drag it out other then to stroke your ego? So going after Lebron James for that is fine.

That's what everything I have said has been in regards to though. Lebron and this ordeal.
I made one comment about the dynasty thing, which I think is absolutely ridiculous.

[McLegend]

so apparently if you shit on LeBron James, youre a Laker fan who is overreacting.

LeBron is a dickhead. He is not a humble individual, the fact that he had to announce his decision on ESPN shows that. The Fact that he got on Larry King during the finals shows that.

Saying stuff like Lebron is a dickhead. Anyone and everyone can shit on him for this.

This is way more fun with them being in Miami. Unless you are from Cleveland then this it is not fun.

Everyone can come together and hate this team. This team will unite a country.

[Jeritron]

Calm down, Jeritron.

I know my bad

[Nark Order]

I dunno. You just told Ermaximus "not to buy into it" like you were trying to save his life or something. Made it seem like everyone that "bought into it" was some stupid brainwashed simpleton.

[McLegend]

That's what everything I have said has been in regards to though. Lebron and this ordeal.
I made one comment about the dynasty thing, which I think is absolutely ridiculous.

It's not that ridiclious though.

The Lakers have 3 or 4 of the top 20 players and they have been in 3 consecutive finals. It's not unreasonable.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Woo here comes the posturing. Later, fellas!

[alvarado52]

i think having a top player be this way is pretty bad for the sport and business.

On the other hand, the Heat are none of my business unless we happen to meet in the finals.

[Juan]

It's not that ridiclious though.

The Lakers have 3 or 4 of the top 20 players and they have been in 3 consecutive finals. It's not unreasonable.

But you've seen what the Lakers can't do as a team. You haven't seen LeBron/Bosh/Wade play together yet, so while them winning multiple championships is a definite possibility, calling them a dynasty right off the bat is a bit premature IMO.

[Jeritron]

I dunno. You just told Ermaximus "not to buy into it" like you were trying to save his life or something. Made it seem like everyone that "bought into it" was some stupid brainwashed simpleton.

He made some comment about him being Michael Jordan or something, and by admission doesn't watch or know anything about basketball. I told him to not believe that. I'd say the same again.
I'm glad I saved his life.

[Nark Order]

I said they have the potential to become a Dynasty. And I believe that.

[Juan]

Woo here comes the posturing. Later, fellas!

Smart man

[Schlomey]

sucks my favorite "superstar" B-Baller is on a team I can't stand.

[Triple A]

Wish someone would literally murder all these dickheads screaming and on the phone at MSG right now

[Schlomey]

has anyone mentioned that David Lee got traded to the Warriors for a bunch of young guys (including my man Azabuki)?

[Triple A]

Fucking guy with the goatee omg

[Jeritron]

It's not that ridiclious though.

The Lakers have 3 or 4 of the top 20 players and they have been in 3 consecutive finals. It's not unreasonable.

So why am I being emotional and not everyone else who has an opinion in this thread? I'm still waiting for this explanation.

I just get the idea that I've been rubbing you the wrong way with my opinions the past few days, so you singled me out. That's fine, but just say it. Don't act like I'm conveying any more emotion or being any more unreasonable than every last person in this thread.

[Juan]

has anyone mentioned that David Lee got traded to the Warriors for a bunch of young guys (including my man Azabuki)?

Yeah, a couple of times actually.

[Jeritron]

I said they have the potential to become a Dynasty. And I believe that.

This business about me saving peoples lives from being zombies is a totally exaggerated portrayal of me taking exception to some ridiculous things though. Like a non-basketball fan being convinced that Lebron is the next Michael Jordan.

[Loose Cannon]

Wish someone would literally murder all these dickheads screaming and on the phone at MSG right now

lol that's pretty much your everyday "New York City/surrounding area douchebag" sadly

[Jeritron]

Just scrolling through the thread and seeing all the examples where people are being more calm and reasonable about everything.

I also am not clear on the part where all of the Lakers fans were flipping out because they weren't getting attention. That feels made up.

[McLegend]

So why am I being emotional and not everyone else who has an opinion in this thread? I'm still waiting for this explanation.

I just get the idea that I've been rubbing you the wrong way with my opinions the past few days, so you singled me out. That's fine, but just say it. Don't act like I'm conveying any more emotion or being any more unreasonable than every last person in this thread.

I thought I did say you were rubbing me the wrong way. Just not in those words.

I don't get why you(specifically) are up in arms when you don't care at all about Lebron James?

I'm not trying to posture, and if I am coming across as that I actually apolgize. That was not my original intention.

[Schlomey]

so what next for the cavs? who do they have left? with all the extra money freed up is there any big free agents left for them to try and pick up the pieces?

Boozer to Chicago
Bosh,James,Wade to Heat
Pierce and Allen resign to Celtics
Lee to Warriors


who's left

[Loose Cannon]

Cavs are fucked more then the Knicks right now

[Juan]

I hope Anderson Varejao retires.

[McLegend]

I hope Anderson Varejao retires.

This would be hilarious, yet also sad.

[Crimson]

Byron Scott resigns tomorrow

[Evil Vito]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/4002679015_1758ba10e7.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>Guess they'll have to find something else to put up here.</font>

[Crimson]

Amare Stoudemire.."The Knicks are back..!" lol

[Loose Cannon]

they could just put a picture of Lebron announcing his signing with the Heat and that poster would still make sense

[Loose Cannon]

Amare Stoudemire.."The Knicks are back..!" lol

lol yea, I did laugh out loud at that the other day.

[Jeritron]

I thought I did say you were rubbing me the wrong way. Just not in those words.

I don't get why you(specifically) are up in arms when you don't care at all about Lebron James?

I'm not trying to posture, and if I am coming across as that I actually apolgize. That was not my original intention.

I said I do not care about Lebron James in the sense that I don't think it's worthy of the long term milking and "look at me" fest.
That's why, 2 weeks ago when we were 2 weeks away for a decision, I said "I don't care." It's the same as saying "I don't want to hear about it (until there's something to hear)"

I care where he signs, as a sports fan, but that takes minutes to announce when it's decided.
I couldn't stand this whole ordeal, like everyone else. Obviously my distaste for it caused me to grow a strong opinion of it all. It became unavoidable and rubbed me the wrong way, like tons of others. So in that sense, yes I care.

It's possible to be disgusted by all of this, and have a strong opinion of it as a sports fan, without specifically caring about it initially, or without having a "dog in the fight."
My dog in the fight is the fact that I'm opinionated and follow sports, and that I dislike Lebron.

I supposed my "I could care less" attitude comes across as me literally not caring about anything, but it's more of me speaking out against it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>February 4, 2011: LeBron returns to Cleveland

Gonna hire extra security for that game</font>

[Rev. Hallowell]

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[Jeritron]

At least if the fans riot they're in a city that they can't make any worse

[Jeritron]

No seriously I feel awful for Cleveland right now

[Juan]

at the risk of starting a three page pissing contest, how good is Kobe Bryant looking right now?

[Loose Cannon]

Kobe turned babyface. Gasol is still a heel though because of his face

[Jeritron]

Just as you said that I got this from a friend on facebook:

dude the best thing I heard earlier today was some guy on espn saying that if he signs with miami kobe will be sitting at home laughing with his 5 rings knowing the guy everyone says is surpassing him as the greatest in the league needs to join two of the best players in the league to win

I tend to agree

[Jeritron]

I am going to go see Predators starring Chris Bosh tonight

[McLegend]

I said I do not care about Lebron James in the sense that I don't think it's worthy of the long term milking and "look at me" fest.
That's why, 2 weeks ago when we were 2 weeks away for a decision, I said "I don't care." It's the same as saying "I don't want to hear about it (until there's something to hear)"

I care where he signs, as a sports fan, but that takes minutes to announce when it's decided.
I couldn't stand this whole ordeal, like everyone else. Obviously my distaste for it caused me to grow a strong opinion of it all. It became unavoidable and rubbed me the wrong way, like tons of others. So in that sense, yes I care.

It's possible to be disgusted by all of this, and have a strong opinion of it as a sports fan, without specifically caring about it initially, or without having a "dog in the fight."
My dog in the fight is the fact that I'm opinionated and follow sports, and that I dislike Lebron.

I supposed my "I could care less" attitude comes across as me literally not caring about anything, but it's more of me speaking out against it.


That's fine, and it makes perfect sense.

For some reason whenever I think I see "The whole I don't care, but I really do" thing always bothers me. I don't know why, but thats my problem.

[McLegend]

<font color=goldenrod>February 4, 2011: LeBron returns to Cleveland

Gonna hire extra security for that game</font>

Did they release the schedule all ready?

[Emperor Smeat]

ESPN already using the tag "The Decision" in describing sports lore involving Cleveland.

Now it joins The Catch (Willie Mays catch vs Indians), The Shot (Jordan 1989 game winner), and The Drive & The Fumble (back to back yearly defeats to Broncos).

[IC Champion]

Just as you said that I got this from a friend on facebook:

dude the best thing I heard earlier today was some guy on espn saying that if he signs with miami kobe will be sitting at home laughing with his 5 rings knowing the guy everyone says is surpassing him as the greatest in the league needs to join two of the best players in the league to win

I tend to agree

James must think he can't lead a team to a championship on his own.

[thecc]

At this point, as long as the knicks make it above .500 I'll be happy.

[Emperor Smeat]

Cavs owner just released a written statement basically trashing Lebron's decision especially having the 1 hour special and then saying he's no longer welcomed back in Cleveland as a former Cav player.

J. A. Adande saying the reason for the harsh statement is how the owner allowed Lebron and his friends and people in luxury boxes, practice time, lockeroom, team flights, and basically anywhere a normal fan or person wouldn't be allowed.

[Nark Order]

James must think he can't lead a team to a championship on his own.

lol

[Juan]

wowwww @ this open letter from Cavs owner Dan Gilbert to Cavs fans

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html

[Emperor Smeat]

Guarantee this means Cavs owner going hard after Carmello Anthony and maybe Parker next off-season free agency since they will have cap space now with Lebron is gone.

[IC Champion]

lol

He hasn't proven anything otherwise.

[Juan]

The Heat and Timberwolves have agreed on a trade that will send Michael Beasley to Minnesota.

Minnesota will absorb Beasley's salary using their cap space and will send a 2011 second round pick to Miami.

[Krimzon7]

Cavs owner sounds like such a pussy right now. Fuck this guy. Who thought shaq was a fit in Cleveland? What about Delonte? Man Gilbert can go directly to Hell. Lebron should have left.

[Nark Order]

Well, I'm excited. Just to see the forming of what may be a dominant franchise.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>That letter is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. I'd be so pumped if I heard something like that from my owner in a situation like this. He feels just how all the fans feel.</font>

[Krimzon7]

That letter is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. I'd be so pumped if I heard something like that from my owner in a situation like this. He feels just how all the fans feel.

You don't think that the Cav's have been anticipating this, and the backlash, and felt like they should 'act pissed' to keep selling tickets? You don't think they'd shit on Bron's legacy there to keep pushing merch? Look, EVERY OWNER IN SPORTS TODAY IS A VICIOUS/CUNNING AS DANA WHITE AND VINNY MAC. They try to hide their fangs with PR and shit like this. I don't buy it, I've seen behind the fucking curtain. I don't respect it. The one thing I like about Dana's tyranical rants is they're fucking real.

[RoXer]

I hear you mannn

[Evil Vito]

You don't think that the Cav's have been anticipating this, and the backlash, and felt like they should 'act pissed' to keep selling tickets? You don't think they'd shit on Bron's legacy there to keep pushing merch? Look, EVERY OWNER IN SPORTS TODAY IS A VICIOUS/CUNNING AS DANA WHITE AND VINNY MAC. They try to hide their fangs with PR and shit like this. I don't buy it, I've seen behind the fucking curtain. I don't respect it. The one thing I like about Dana's tyranical rants is they're fucking real.

<font color=goldenrod>As a fan, I wouldn't care if it was real or not. It was said.

Most owners would have downplayed it "well we appreciate everything he's done", or said nothing. This guy just goes all out and says "fuck you". I'd love to hear that as a fan.</font>

[Triple A]

Liking the Cavs owner's usage of quotation marks in that letter. Not sure about using Comic Sans MS.

[weather vane]

road doggy dogg

[Juan]

Mike Miller - 30 Mil/5 years to the HEAT

[McLegend]

The Heat and Timberwolves have agreed on a trade that will send Michael Beasley to Minnesota.

Minnesota will absorb Beasley's salary using their cap space and will send a 2011 second round pick to Miami.
How many small forwards do the T-wolves need?

[Juan]

Mike Miller - 30 Mil/5 years to the HEAT

Kinda bummed about this one. Was hoping the Lakers would somehow get him.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Shaq will be signing on with the Heat next</font>

[OssMan]

As much as I have come to hate Cleveland over the years, I feel that I have to root for them now just so they can win a title without James LeBron before Miami ever does.

[weather vane]

go Celtics!

[Jeritron]

Well, I'm excited. Just to see the forming of what may be a dominant franchise.

I thought you were a Kings fan?

[Jeritron]

That open letter was amazing. I'm glad someone on the inside of basketball is speaking their mind and not playing softball about the whole issue.

[Nark Order]

I am a Kings fan. Let's face it though, they aren't ready for a championship for awhile. I want to see this super team crush the hopes and dreams of everybody in the NBA for awhile. Kinda cool to me how they're trying to make a mega team.

[Skippord]

all your free agents are belong to the heat

[Nark Order]

Mike Miller joining the party.

[Nark Order]

How in the fuck do they have the cap space left to sign Mike Miller?

[Nark Order]

Mitchell native Mike Miller intends to sign a five-year, $30 million deal with the Miami Heat, sources told KSFY (http://www.ksfy.com/) late Thursday night.
Earlier in the night, LeBron James announced his intention to sign with Miami, joining Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade with the Heat. And after that, they traded Michael Beasley to the Wolves (http://www.broiledsports.com/2010/07/to-make-room-for-miami-thrice-heat-ship.html) to free up cap space.
Miller spent last season with the Washington Wizards.
The Heat had a busy, busy night.

Well, there we go then.

[Skippord]

Pat Riley is a dark wizard

[Nark Order]

I wonder how Assman feels about this.

[Jeritron]

I am a Kings fan. Let's face it though, they aren't ready for a championship for awhile. I want to see this super team crush the hopes and dreams of everybody in the NBA for awhile. Kinda cool to me how they're trying to make a mega team.

Heel tactics. I am backing the Cavs in all of this. Of course, I want the Celtics to beath both of them, but seriously, I would be thrilled to see Cleveland go out and get the tools to win a championship now. Especially if they could do it before Miami (or Miami just not win one at all).
It should certainly be interesting to watch.

[Nark Order]

I am too much of a fan of professional wrestling to not love what is happening right now. Lebron James just smashed Cleveland in the head with a steel chair and joined the NWO. This is remarkable to me.

[Juan]

Well, there we go then.

come on narc, this was already posted. Post # 643 :)

[Jeritron]

There's no denying that what occured tonight was the closest thing to Bash at the Beach the NBA will ever see.

Seriously, Cleveland coming back rejuvinated and hungry and winning a title before Miami would everything Starrcade 97 wishes it was.

[Nark Order]

I know this is going to lead to Lakers/Heat finals like 4 years in a row or something. Ugh.

[Nark Order]

Well, unless the Cavs GM puts a hit out on Lebron, I don't see the Cavs winning before the Heat. DUNNO.

[Jeritron]

Maybe some hot free agents next year will be attracted to Cleveland to fight the good fight

[Juan]

they could always snag Melo next off season

[Nark Order]

Not if Pat Riley has anything to say about it!

[Skippord]

I will burn Melo's jersey if he leaves

because I am completely out of my mind

[Juan]

I will burn Melo's jersey if he leaves

because I am completely out of my mind

You'll still have the rest of Cell Block 8.

[Nark Order]

Carmello will be playing off the Heat's bench.

[Skippord]

I hope the Nuggets trade J.R Smith for like an old washing machine or something

[Skippord]

also is Dan Gilbert declaring some sort of fatwa on LeBron?

[Nark Order]

Now the entire Cavaliers' starting line-up is going to sleep with Lebron's mom.

[Juan]

I hate the off season. I can't wait til October 26

[Skippord]

I saw J.R Smith in a music video the other day and it was the most bizarre cameo I've ever seen in anything

[Juan]

Have you ordered your Heat jersey yet, narc?

[DaveWadding]

I'm so fucking sick of all this shit, and yet, I can't stay away.

[Juan]

Suns - 2011 NBA champs

[OssMan]

I wonder how Assman feels about this.
about what

I liked Mike Miller :wavesad:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Live footage of Dan Gilbert writing his letter

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3083/loveyourjob5qj.gif

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This is one thing I hate about the NBA. You can say with relative certainty right now that the Heat will win the East, and the Lakers will win the West...and you'll probably be right. Both teams are probably locks for the Conference Finals at least.

Hell, when the season starts the writers predict almost every playoff team and nearly get it always 100% right. It just feels like the NBA is the most predictable sport.</font>

[Nark Order]

about what

I liked Mike Miller :wavesad:

Yeah, that's what I meant. :(

[IC Champion]

<font color=goldenrod>This is one thing I hate about the NBA. You can say with relative certainty right now that the Heat will win the East, and the Lakers will win the West...and you'll probably be right. Both teams are probably locks for the Conference Finals at least.

Hell, when the season starts the writers predict almost every playoff team and nearly get it always 100% right. It just feels like the NBA is the most predictable sport.</font>

Because it's one of the most diluted in terms of talents. NBA has too many teams, and not a deep enough talent pool. It's why the first best team is so much better usually than the forth or fifth place team, and why it's so easy for people to predict who will make the playoffs and win what conference.

[Hanso Amore]

Seriously, I lost respect for Lebron.

That is Wades team. He has won a title and an MVP in Miami.

James is the supposed best player in the league, but piggy backed onto someone else. True greats have THEIR team, they dont go somewhere else. It would be one thing if he went to another team and raised them to the top, like Shaq did with the Lakers (they were kind of shite in those feew years before he went there, and he signed and LA was SHAQs team until Kobe took it over later on).

But this is just a shit move.

[Hanso Amore]

Like how does Wade feel. It is his team. Bosh coming in is icing in the cake. but Lebron is coming in and bringing the circus. If they dont win the title this year, I guarantee things fall apart. You cannot have 3 Alpha dogs in their prime on one team.

[Nark Order]

Lebron didn't have to take that huge of a pay cut and he is in top contention for a title now. He's also playing with two of his best friends in the league. Seems like a no brainer. I don't know.

[Nark Order]

But the ESPN thing was a bit much.

[IC Champion]

No more MVPs for James. I don't see James or Wade getting any votes. Kobe might win one more and then Durant will win the next 5.

[Innovator]

Pretty sure Durant is all the reporter's/columnist's favorite player now.

[IC Champion]

Everybody enjoys talented players who are also humble. Something Mr James knows nothing about.

[IC Champion]

Who the fuck really goes on TV, with there own primetime special to announce there decision? People with giants heads and no rings.

[D Mac]

Wish he would have went to the Bulls.

[Dragon]

Like how does Wade feel. It is his team. Bosh coming in is icing in the cake. but Lebron is coming in and bringing the circus. If they dont win the title this year, I guarantee things fall apart. You cannot have 3 Alpha dogs in their prime on one team.

Wade is apparently the reason it happened. He was the one pushing for all three to go to Miami. Wade is probably loving it. He already has his ring, and now he has two amazing sidekicks to help him win more.

[Jura]

In Team USA at the Olympics the MVP of the team was pretty much Wade. His FG percentage was amazing and his all-around performance was amazing. All that talent worked together including James, Bosh and Wade. I'm sure a coach like Riley can replicate that. Wade would be the MVP, Captain, etc of the team still. He already has a ring and now he has the help he needs which fortunately for him or in the form of his buddies.

Lebron is known to pass a lot so that would cater to Bosh and Wade's game. Wade's a scorer, a shooter, a driver and he needs more open shots. Bosh helps down low and is there for the close goal and can get the rebounds. So in the best case scenario even though all three may have lower numbers, Lebron has a better chance of getting triple doubles even if he has less points, Bosh can do his thing and all this makes it easier for Wade.

[Jura]

I don't know if this has been mentioned before but since Michael Jordan's number is retired in Miami lol that would mean Lebron has to choose a different number than 23.

[Juan]

He had planned to change his number to 6 this year regardless.

[Jura]

Why 6?

[Jura]

Oh wait, that was his Team USA number.

[Skippord]

god Dan Gilbert is insane

[McLegend]

Lol yeah he is.

[McLegend]

Also if you are the T-Wolves why are you helping out the Heat? You shouldn't be doing that trade especially if you have a bunch of forwards anyway.

[Juan]

Asked if James' move to Miami will cause a power shift in the NBA, Magic GM Otis Smith responded, "Is Kobe retiring?"

[IC Champion]

lol, Kobe as become the defacto babyface of the NBA.

[Dragon]

god Dan Gilbert is insane

"Fathead, the company owned by Gilbert that makes life-size wall graphics, has placed all James-related items on clearance. James' three life-size Fatheads, which were all priced at $99.99, have been trimmed down to $17.41 at Fathead.com.

If that price strikes you as peculiar, you're not alone. American Revolutionary War general Benedict Arnold, a traitor who defected to the British, was born in 1741."


From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20100709/SPORTS0102/7090431/LeBron-Fatheads-now-carry-not-so-coincidental-price-of-$17.41#ixzz0tEDLjgXH

[alvarado52]

lol, oh man, he told him!

[McLegend]

Hahahah wow

[Emperor Smeat]

Also if you are the T-Wolves why are you helping out the Heat? You shouldn't be doing that trade especially if you have a bunch of forwards anyway.

I never understood the whole thought process of absorbing another team's salary dump when everyone knows Heat did it to gain space since they have no bench while T'Wolves gained absolutely nothing but less cap space in the end. Even if its just a 1 year deal, that's 1 season of less money possible to build or develop a team.

Even weirder when its done in the same conference or division since all your doing is making a rival or contender stronger while doing nothing for yourself (ex. Grizzles).

[McLegend]

I agree 100%. I would never want help a team out. Unless I was getting something really big in return.

on the flip side...

You could say that's steal for Beasley if it turns out to be really good. Big if though

[Emperor Smeat]

Guarantee Pat Riley is going to taunt Stan Van Gundy a few times this year as one of those "Look at what your missing out on" since common knowledge is Riley fired Van Gundy when the Heat had a championship-caliber team so he could take all the glory.

NBA will love it since it means an Orlando-Miami rivalry even if it only lasts as long as the former Kings-Lakers rivalry.

[IC Champion]

So apparenlty Delonte West fucked LeBrons mom and thats the reason he "quit" against Boston. And it apparently in game 5 it's obvious that he wasnt trying.

[IC Champion]

Pretty good statement from an article in the National Post:

"
“I was surprised,” Orlando general manager Otis Smith told The Associated Press. “I thought he was, I guess, more of a competitor … The great ones do and usually stay in one location. This is a new era. It’s a little different than my time.”

Yes it is. We’ve never seen anything like this before. In this era, the players are all friends, and this summer, they and their people ran the league. Not only did we learn LeBron is not who we thought he was, but we learned that he and his superfriends toyed with the rules, with the game, with teams and with the media. They commandeered and co-opted ESPN, and changed the NBA’s traditional rules of engagement. "

[IC Champion]

http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/LeBron+give+Cleveland/3258616/story.html

[Nark Order]

lol, this is going a little overboard here.

[IC Champion]

is it?

[Nark Order]

Yes. I just said that, you fucking cock! :mad:

[IC Champion]

You're made that Lebrons the bigger narcissus, arent you?

[IC Champion]

LeBron went from a beloved sports figure, to one of the most hated men in sports so quickly.

[Nark Order]

The way I see this situation is this:

Yes, the guy went overboard with broadcasting his decision on ESPN. Complaining about anything other than that just seems like "bitterness". He went to a place where he's probably going to win a championship. As a player, your goal is to win championships. Getting on the guy because he didn't take the hardest road to a ring seems a little silly.

And taking the backseat to Wade doesn't sound like something somebody completely consumed with their own ego would do. It's inconsistent with the overall claim. Let's at least be honest about it all. Broadcasting on ESPN for an hour seems pretty arrogant... but the way he came off on TV didn't seem like that, and the way that he's going onto a star studded team doesn't seem like that either. Call apples apples and oranges oranges here.

[Emperor Smeat]

I would argue the fact the decision came in the 1st 15-20 minutes meant the whole show switched focused to Lebron gushing about being in Miami and becoming a "team" player while at the same time insulting Cleveland after years of demanding players to boost the team and his stats.

Crowd was basically dead/cold after the announcement since they must have been pro-Knicks (location) or pro-Cavs and had no clue on how to react without it coming off bad on tv.

[Emperor Smeat]

Derek Fisher meeting with Pat Riley set for Saturday about potentially being on the Heat.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5368129

If he leaves, its assumed Steve Blake takes his spot in the starting lineup for the Lakers.

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John Wall hurts his groin in 1st practice with the Wizards.

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Bobcats sign Tyrus Thomas to 5 year $40 million deal.

[Nark Order]

Alright, Derek Fisher is where I draw the line.

[Juan]

Fish :(

[Juan]

Word in LA was that he was supposed to resign with the Lakers sometime this week.

[Triple Naitch]

There's no way the Heat will offer more than the $2.5 mil the Lakers offered.

[DaveBrawl]

They are going to auction off the Sharpie's Wade, Bosh and James just signed their ceremonial contracts with.

[Emperor Smeat]

There's no way the Heat will offer more than the $2.5 mil the Lakers offered.

Its Pat Riley, I wouldn't be surprised if Fisher takes the offer since Riley managed to sign 3 top tier/max contract players without using max contract deals. The Knicks and Bulls wished they had thought of what he did first so they could have gotten all 3 easily.

[Dragon]

That Heat press conference just made them even more hated then before. Seriously, LeBron guaranteeing more than 7 championships when he hasn't touched one before? Amazing how quick his attitude changed from yesterdays sob story one hour special. Also interesting how Bosh talked about how it was basically the plan for months now.

Pretty hilarious how the person that could probably come out looking the best in this is Kobe. He beats the "Three Kings" next year and he is gonna be loved by everybody.

[RP]

I hope Kobe kicks the living shit out of the Heat

[Rev. Hallowell]

Heat, Lakers, Heat, Lakers...you know, these guys are still around, right?

http://img107.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2008/07/11/spurs20big20sign-4b5c4ripa.jpeg

http://melancholiac.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/big3.jpg

[RP]

http://rumorsandrants.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/hangtime.jpg

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I agree 100%. I would never want help a team out. Unless I was getting something really big in return.

on the flip side...

You could say that's steal for Beasley if it turns out to be really good. Big if though
Exactly. Beasley could potentially still end up being a really good player, basically got him for nothing

[Skippord]

I hope the Heat win 7 straight titles

if the Nuggets don't ever win any

[Nark Order]

Heat, Lakers, Heat, Lakers...you know, these guys are still around, right?

http://img107.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2008/07/11/spurs20big20sign-4b5c4ripa.jpeg

http://melancholiac.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/big3.jpg

...Yes. Fully aware.

[Jeritron]

Pat Riley is probably on the phone with David Stern trying to get I.O.U's to fall under the cap

[RP]

From Bill Simmons twitter


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cant stop laughing

[RP]

" LETS GET EVERYBODY OUTTA THE DRESSING ROOM AND KICK HIS ASS! "

[McLegend]

I caught the highlights of the "concert" in Miami... Unreal.

[DaveWadding]

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[McLegend]

WWE should be begging The Heat to use the NWO music.

[Triple Naitch]

Heat, Lakers, Heat, Lakers...you know, these guys are still around, right?

http://img107.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2008/07/11/spurs20big20sign-4b5c4ripa.jpeg

http://melancholiac.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/big3.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/01/article-1196789-058EB298000005DC-834_468x330.jpg

[Triple Naitch]

From Bill Simmons twitter


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cant stop laughing
So is Kobe supposed to be Ric Flair or Roddy Piper. He can't be Sting because Kobe's going from the most hated to the savior of the sport.

[Triple Naitch]

Mike Miller is definitely Buff Bagwell.