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loopydate
07-27-2012, 01:50 AM
The one thing I didn't like(and I'm positive Kalyx is with me on this) is that the football team gotham was playing was some random made up city and not Metropolis. I thought that would have been the absolute PERFECT oppurtunity for an easter egg of that nature.
Yeah, I was hoping they'd be either Metropolis or Keystone City or one of the other big DC cities.
Blitz
07-27-2012, 02:38 AM
Having Metropolis might've had people make a connection to Man of Steel that they don't want. Woulda been cool if it was Bludhaven.
Fignuts
07-27-2012, 02:40 AM
Yeah, I thought it was so obviously an easter egg oppurtunity that the only reason not to was that they wanted to keep this 100% self contained. Which is understandable, but still...
Kalyx triaD
07-27-2012, 03:43 AM
The one thing I didn't like(and I'm positive Kalyx is with me on this) is that the football team gotham was playing was some random made up city and not Metropolis. I thought that would have been the absolute PERFECT oppurtunity for an easter egg of that nature.
OMFG
They could have threw any kind of bone there! Metropolis, Central City (with a red uniform team), Star City (green uniforms), Fawcett City, Bludhaven, c'mon!
That would have been nergasm material for free.
But hey, I'm cool.
Krimzon7
07-27-2012, 09:51 AM
That's true I didn't think of there being multiple ones.
Lol it had nothing to do with them being Steelers and everything to do with them being real known football players.
That's the price you pay for requesting to blow up Heinz Field and do it during Training Camp. You have to use their players/fans
And I abhore the Steelers. I booed the whole time out of pure instinct.
Kalyx triaD
07-27-2012, 10:48 AM
Really?
http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/christopher-nolan-bids-farewell-to-batman-franchise-in-mustread-letter-718682.html?wss=fanmail&type=Newsletter&mailing=7.27.12%20Newsletter
:wavesad:
BollywoodSingh
07-27-2012, 04:38 PM
This might be a stupid question....so I understand why Bruce Wayne had to fake the death of his alter ego Batman. But why did he have to fake his own death? Was it because too many people knew that Bruce Wayne was Batman at that point?
Damian Rey
07-27-2012, 05:59 PM
I took as there was more good to come from him "dying", like the house going to the boys, the cave going to Blake, and Bruce being able to move on with a "clean slate" along side Selina.
Fignuts
07-28-2012, 12:37 AM
What Damian said.
Evil Vito
07-28-2012, 12:55 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Only took me a week, but I finally had the chance to see this. I found the first hour/hour and a half to be somewhat slow to be honest. Maybe a little bit longer than it needed to be.
But once Bane beat the living shit out of Batman and went over his diabolical plan, everything after that just flew the fuck by. Was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Just a fantastic story and brilliant acting all around. Bane was an incredible villain and was way better than I thought he'd be.
The ending was perfect, loved seeing him sacrificing himself after all of that. It seems pretty clear that he's dead - but I did like Alfred seeing Bruce and Selina. Obviously appeared to be Alfred's imagination or something but it was just enough to cause additional speculation. Be kinda hilarious if they make a Robin exclusive movie now or something.
Also I would pay to have sex with Anne Hathaway.</font>
Damian Rey
07-28-2012, 01:32 AM
Bruce is blatantly alive and well, and seemed to plan his suppossed demise from the beginning of his return. Too many coincidences; the new bat signl, coordinates left for Blake to find the Bat Cave, leaving the family grounds to orphaned boys after finding out the company no longer gave donations, Fox finding out the auto pilot was patched in, and Alred seeing Bruce, with Selina, at the cafe. Alfred would have no reason to imagine Bruce and Selina together, seeing as he only saw her for a brief moment prior to that.
Damn it I want to see this again. So bad.
Kalyx triaD
07-28-2012, 01:41 AM
A mansion full of potential Robins.
Good move, Bruce.
Good move.
SlickyTrickyDamon
07-28-2012, 02:05 AM
Only thing I didn't like is that the kid from 3rd Rock from the Sun was named Robin. Come on. Robin wasn't even Robin's name. It was Dick Grayson and Robin was his stage name. Stupid corny bullshit.
Kalyx triaD
07-28-2012, 02:10 AM
Aw, want a cookie?
Only thing I didn't like is that the kid from 3rd Rock from the Sun was named Robin. Come on. Robin wasn't even Robin's name. It was Dick Grayson and Robin was his stage name. Stupid corny bullshit.
I'm sure most people would not of caught that if they simply said Dick
Kalyx triaD
07-28-2012, 02:26 AM
Worse if they used Richard. Throw the people a bone.
Damian Rey
07-28-2012, 02:28 AM
Stop talking like these movies are geared towards general auiences, RP!
SlickyTrickyDamon
07-28-2012, 02:44 AM
A mansion full of potential Robins.
Good move, Bruce.
Good move.
Anybody think about Newsies when they showed the house being remodeled for orphans?
I did.
Reavant
07-28-2012, 04:36 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Only took me a week, but I finally had the chance to see this. I found the first hour/hour and a half to be somewhat slow to be honest. Maybe a little bit longer than it needed to be.
But once Bane beat the living shit out of Batman and went over his diabolical plan, everything after that just flew the fuck by. Was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Just a fantastic story and brilliant acting all around. Bane was an incredible villain and was way better than I thought he'd be.
The ending was perfect, loved seeing him sacrificing himself after all of that. It seems pretty clear that he's dead - but I did like Alfred seeing Bruce and Selina. Obviously appeared to be Alfred's imagination or something but it was just enough to cause additional speculation. Be kinda hilarious if they make a Robin exclusive movie now or something.
Also I would pay to have sex with Anne Hathaway.</font>
you really couldnt be more wrong, but i get why. You need to see it again and you will see it differently
Kalyx triaD
07-28-2012, 05:02 AM
Bruce is alive. The autopilot thing is the dead ringer.
I thought that was obvious
El Vaquero de Infierno
07-28-2012, 05:44 AM
Whilst the first hour was rather low-key, I did not find that it dragged on or had a detrimental effect on the film.
I wasn't as impressed with Bane as most are. He was good tho.
RoXer
07-28-2012, 07:05 AM
<font color=goldenrod>It seems pretty clear that he's dead </font>
No. It's clearly the exact opposite. I don't even see how it's debatable and how so many people on the internet are jumping to this conclusion. Mind boggling.
Hanso Amore
07-28-2012, 02:17 PM
Vito is a bit of a moron from what I can tell so go easy on him. Always got the sense that he was a bit dense, so you can understand how he didn't connect the dots. No offense. Nice guy and all. But if I was to bet on any tpww member getting their hand stuck in a pickle jar it would be him.
Savio
07-28-2012, 02:58 PM
Not quite sure how you guys are saying Batman Begins is better than this.
Kalyx triaD
07-28-2012, 03:16 PM
Who said this nonsense?
This movie legitimized Batman Begins in the trilogy. BB and TDK were so disconnected in tone, you can almost call TDK a reboot with the same characters. After watching TDK's gritty crime movie showcase, I looked back at BB like, "Did he really train under a possibly immortal eco-terrorist who ran a clan of mountain ninjas?"
BB was a really good superhero movie, TDK was an excellent crime film.
But with TDKR, it manages to bring together the fantastical nature of BB with the realism and outcome of TDK.
McLegend
07-28-2012, 03:52 PM
Batman Begins is better.
McLegend
07-28-2012, 04:10 PM
BB was a really good superhero movie, TDK was an excellent crime film.
But with TDKR, it manages to bring together the fantastical nature of BB with the realism and outcome of TDK.
I do agree with this.
I do like how it tried to combine all the different elements from the first two movies.
The Dark Knight Rises does have a closer feel to Batman Begins then it does to The Dark Knight.
Lui Kang
07-28-2012, 05:40 PM
I will keep my analysis short and sweet:
This trilogy was about as perfect a trilogy that I have ever seen.
I enjoyed all 3 movies greatly.
El Fangel
07-28-2012, 07:28 PM
Stunning. brilliant. soeechless.
Evil Vito
07-29-2012, 01:37 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Already saw it again. Still loved it. The first hour didn't drag as much as I remembered. Reavant was pretty much right. You really do view things a bit differently knowing how it ends.
Unlike what Hanso claims, I didn't fail to connect the dots/miss the point/etc the first time. It had everything to do with my mindset. I went in to the film fully expecting Bruce to get killed off, and most of what happened during the movie enhanced that belief. Even watching it the second time it felt like that that was where it was heading. The look on Bats' face when the bomb was 5 seconds away from detonating just said it all to me. He looked like a man who had accepted his fate. Because I was so wrapped up in the notion of Bruce actually dying I definitely see why I perceived everything that happened post-explosion the way I did. Bruce Wayne never fails to plan ahead - so that explained everything being nicely laid out for when he was gone with the bat signal being fixed, Robin being prepared to take the reigns, etc. The auto pilot had been repaired, but it was before Bane's hostile takeover had even begun. And then there was the whole Alfred thing which I had already mentioned.
In watching with a more clear mind the second time, I'm still not convinced the ending was as black and white as people want to make it out to be. I'm willing to concede that Bruce probably did live as it's the simplest, happiest way to wrap up the trilogy plus it gives a concrete ending for those who wanted it. But I think it was designed to leave just enough up for speculation to the contrary for those who wanted to dig deeper into it. Unless Nolan says otherwise, I stand by that.
And really, it doesn't matter. No matter what Bruce's fate was, it'd have no effect on my overall opinion of the movie. It was brilliant. Nolan did about as perfect of a job as you could with this trilogy.</font>
Evil Vito
07-29-2012, 01:39 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Also Jonathan Crane is the fucking man. Not sure I mentioned him in my comments from yesterday but I absolutely loved his cameo. He's been consistently great throughout the trilogy.</font>
Evil Vito
07-29-2012, 01:41 AM
<font color=goldenrod>I do wonder about what the next stages are for the franchise. Nolan says he's done, and I don't think he's bullshitting there. But somebody is bound to try and make another Batman movie, probably within the next 5 years. Just way too much money to be made for it to not happen. The only question is whether or not they try to pick things up in Nolan's universe with Gordon-Levitt as the new Batman, or if they just do a reboot (god I hope not).</font>
Kalyx triaD
07-29-2012, 02:01 AM
Wish Crane wore his mask and a hangman's noose at the trials. It would have a thematic effect for me, personally.
More than likely the nest Batman movies will be a reboot to coincide with the Man of Steel universe for the assumed Justice League movie.
Although...
I do find it epically ironic that upon seeing the Man of Steel trailer, they do in fact have a Superman that seems to fit in Nolan's world. I can see Bale-Batman in that somber, almost bleak setting. I would like for Bale to continue (somehow) toward a proper crossover. Now when Batman gets rebooted, it'll almost surely be lighter in tone - possibly too light in tone for the Man of Steel series!
Kalyx triaD
07-29-2012, 03:09 AM
I put this off for a few days but yeah, I warned that if anybody ruined the story for me I'd personally ban them. Someone attempted to, which I quickly looked away when I seen a specific combination of words. I went back to read after seeing the movie and this person indeed tried to spoil it. And this guy is pretty cool with me. Well, off ya go, you know who you are.
Blitz
07-29-2012, 03:21 AM
Bruce is alive. The autopilot thing is the dead ringer.
I thought that was obvious
But Christopher Nolan directed Inception and therefore it must be a mindfuck.
Kalyx triaD
07-29-2012, 03:51 AM
Inception =/= Batman
I was half expecting Leonardo DiCaprio to pop up at any moment given the number of actor crossovers with this and Inception.
Savio
07-29-2012, 01:12 PM
Wish Crane wore his mask and a hangman's noose at the trials. It would have a thematic effect for me, personally.
Me too, I'm just glad he was in the movie however.
Kalyx triaD
07-29-2012, 01:18 PM
Once upon a time, after Batman Begins launched, there was an idea that Ellen Page (fresh of X3) should be the Nolan-verse Robin. When got she into Inception I thought about her as Robin more seriously.
Guess they were close.
Damian Rey
07-29-2012, 01:46 PM
I still dont get how anyone could think the ending isnt as absolute as it actually is. Alfred only knows Selina as a thief not only from the manor but from the files Bruce dug up on the Bat computer. Hed have exactly zero reason to "dream" Bruce is alive and happy with Selina.
Nowhere Man
07-29-2012, 02:47 PM
Once upon a time, after Batman Begins launched, there was an idea that Ellen Page (fresh of X3) should be the Nolan-verse Robin. When got she into Inception I thought about her as Robin more seriously.
Guess they were close.
That woulda been neat. Kinda do Robin like Carrie Kelly from Dark Knight Returns, or even Stephanie Brown.
Kalyx triaD
07-29-2012, 03:38 PM
There's quite a few Dark Knight Returns vibes from this movie as well.
Hanso Amore
07-29-2012, 04:12 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Already saw it again. Still loved it. The first hour didn't drag as much as I remembered. Reavant was pretty much right. You really do view things a bit differently knowing how it ends.
Unlike what Hanso claims, I didn't fail to connect the dots/miss the point/etc the first time. It had everything to do with my mindset. I went in to the film fully expecting Bruce to get killed off, and most of what happened during the movie enhanced that belief. Even watching it the second time it felt like that that was where it was heading. The look on Bats' face when the bomb was 5 seconds away from detonating just said it all to me. He looked like a man who had accepted his fate. Because I was so wrapped up in the notion of Bruce actually dying I definitely see why I perceived everything that happened post-explosion the way I did. Bruce Wayne never fails to plan ahead - so that explained everything being nicely laid out for when he was gone with the bat signal being fixed, Robin being prepared to take the reigns, etc. The auto pilot had been repaired, but it was before Bane's hostile takeover had even begun. And then there was the whole Alfred thing which I had already mentioned.
In watching with a more clear mind the second time, I'm still not convinced the ending was as black and white as people want to make it out to be. I'm willing to concede that Bruce probably did live as it's the simplest, happiest way to wrap up the trilogy plus it gives a concrete ending for those who wanted it. But I think it was designed to leave just enough up for speculation to the contrary for those who wanted to dig deeper into it. Unless Nolan says otherwise, I stand by that.
And really, it doesn't matter. No matter what Bruce's fate was, it'd have no effect on my overall opinion of the movie. It was brilliant. Nolan did about as perfect of a job as you could with this trilogy.</font>
Say what you will, you needed to pay to see a movie twice to understand what we all did in one viewing.
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Reavant
07-29-2012, 04:49 PM
to be fair i thought the ending was a little up in the air as well the first time i saw it. The second viewing cleared everything up.
Innovator
07-29-2012, 05:45 PM
Saw it last night, thought the ending was pretty clear that Bruce gave Alfred what he wanted, to see him and know he was happy.
DaveWadding
07-29-2012, 07:23 PM
Say what you will, you needed to pay to see a movie twice to understand what we all did in one viewing.
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Dude, go fuck yourself.
Or a tranny dressed up like Batman. Whatever.
Malfeitor
07-30-2012, 12:35 AM
Saw it for the third time today on a true IMAX screen. It was ridiculously awesome.
dronepool
07-30-2012, 01:30 AM
David Fincher should direct the next Batman.
Damian Rey
07-30-2012, 04:02 AM
Good idea, dronepool. I was thinking of who would have the ability to start a new series of films, and Fincher is a good choice. I thought maybe Aronofsky, but I have read about his Batman treatment, and it sounded atrocious. How about Guillermo Del Toro? Hellboy was pretty good. Second one was, as well.
Indifferent Clox
07-30-2012, 04:09 AM
I had to see it twice before i heard the autopilot thing, people were loud.
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 05:08 AM
Batman doesn't seem like Del Toro's thing. If he did do it, I guarantee Killer Croc, Man-Bat and other fantastical creatures would get in. Think about it.
Blitz
07-30-2012, 05:11 AM
That might be the way to go, honestly. Nolan's pretty much wrapped up the "realistic" vision of Batman for the near future. Maybe a turn towards the more incredible elements could be interesting, done right.
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 05:26 AM
In that case Del Toro's the guy to do it. That would get me pretty hyped for CLAYFACE.
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 05:26 AM
Who I'm totally closet gay for. My favorite 'high fantasy' Bat-villain.
Damian Rey
07-30-2012, 07:09 AM
My only gripe with Clayface is hed certainly have to be 100% cgi, which I am not a fan of. As long as the films continue to center around Bruce and his plight, I will be happy. Id rather not have a Batman thats just there.
The Mackem
07-30-2012, 07:52 AM
It was good. I didn't feel the same as I did after watching the previous two but definitely worth seeing.
Hanso Amore
07-30-2012, 11:50 AM
Dude, go fuck yourself.
Or a tranny dressed up like Batman. Whatever.
I didnt realize this involved all Fat, Ugly Virgins. I was simply talkign to Vito, I didnt mean to get your already astronomical blood pressure up. Calm down.
DaveBrawl
07-30-2012, 01:15 PM
What are you monsters doing to this beautiful thread?
Damian Rey
07-30-2012, 01:17 PM
Back to Batman, damnit! Who should be considered to take the reigns and deliver a new Dark Knight?
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 01:24 PM
I don't know about director but I always wanted Guy Pearce to be Bruce Wayne/Batman. Particularly a Batman Inc./Gotham Knights Leader version where he leads a team. I wanna see Robin, Batgirl, and Nightwing. This is an area that can be done well and taken seriously. It's also largely unexplored aside from Batman & Robin which just doesn't count for many reasons.
I think we should bypass an origin story altogether and center the next trilogy around the trials of being a surrogate father and team leader to those young people.
Big Vic
07-30-2012, 01:42 PM
Was the reason he had a bum knee in the begining due to the fact that he fell 30 feet in TDK
Damian Rey
07-30-2012, 01:48 PM
I had the same sentiments earlier, Kalyx. Pierce would be great. He has the chops to pull of the duality role, and personally, as I statrd earlier, watching a series of films centered around Bruce adopting, training, working along side of and eventually losing Dick wouldbe interesting to me. Delves into a part of the character we have to see on film.
Hanso Amore
07-30-2012, 02:47 PM
I would love to see Channing Tatum as Batman. He definitely has the acting chops and could really lend credibility to the role.
DaveBrawl
07-30-2012, 02:51 PM
Steven Seagal in a "Dark Knight Returns" film.
The Mackem
07-30-2012, 03:46 PM
A couple of questions that Batman fans/more alert movie watchers than me may be able to answer;
In the film, did Bane have some kind of super power? Early in the film it looked like he had magnetic hands which was how I thought Batman was going to defeat him. Transport a lot of metal from Gotham Scrapyard.
If Tommy from 3rd Rock from the sun is expected to take on the Batman role, how would he be able to do it without the Wayne Enterprises resources that Bruce had?
And if there is an orphanage above, isn't there a danger that one of the kids might learn how not to play the piano and discover the cave?
Also, who really cared about that guy from Torchwood being exiled and falling through the ice? That should have been one of the more prominent board members. I initially thought Morgan Freedman but maybe that third guy boardmember that activated the fusion reactor.
Finally, I will never trust Michael Caine ever again. I trusted those fake tears.
El Vaquero de Infierno
07-30-2012, 03:50 PM
I think Teal'c from SG1 should have had a bigger role. I marked out when he appeared (because I am a sad sci-fi nerd - yes yes yes, CSL, I know).
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 04:10 PM
In the film, did Bane have some kind of super power? Early in the film it looked like he had magnetic hands which was how I thought Batman was going to defeat him. Transport a lot of metal from Gotham Scrapyard.
Shut up.
If Tommy from 3rd Rock from the sun is expected to take on the Batman role, how would he be able to do it without the Wayne Enterprises resources that Bruce had?
Lucious Fox and the tech leftover (Batcave, Batpod, assorted gear).
I like how Joseph can do these hit movies and still be that 'kid from 3rd Rock'. People say it almost as a strike against him. I never watched 3rd Rock, perhaps his role there was so definitive people can't let that go. idk
And if there is an orphanage above, isn't there a danger that one of the kids might learn how not to play the piano and discover the cave?
Or even find that well Bruce fell into in the garden. The waterfall as well. More than likely the stuff of a Robin origin down the line.
Also, who really cared about that guy from Torchwood being exiled and falling through the ice? That should have been one of the more prominent board members. I initially thought Morgan Freedman but maybe that third guy boardmember that activated the fusion reactor.
I think the point was lawlessness disguised as law, with a former Arkham patient playing the judge. Given his affiliations earlier, I don't think we're supposed to sympathize with him per se, rather than see what Gotham has degenerated into. There were many more bodies out in the icy waters.
I mean I know you're doing some shallow criticism of the movie but I'm answering best I can.
Finally, I will never trust Michael Caine ever again. I trusted those fake tears.
Okay.
The Mackem
07-30-2012, 05:00 PM
They were serious questions
Bane looked like he had some sort of power in his hands, nothing in the flashback suggested a reason why he was so strong which made me think I either missed something in Bane's dialogue (which was really in and out for me at times in terms of audibility) or I just over analysed those early scenes. Did he have super strength, was it explained in the film? I feel like I missed something big there.
Maybe underestimating the lifetime of the tech that Bruce Wayne already had. I just assumed replacement parts and maintencance would be quite expensive for somebody without a job.
That scene on the ice was bizarre. The henchman even showed a degree of sympathy with the guy that had been exiled, it just didn't come across well. I know Bane didn't care either way and more than likely wanted him dead whenever but why not just kill him when he killed his boss. I don't recall him re-appearing in between those two scenes. If there was a spare 'good' character lying around, it would have made more sense to me personally.
It was a good film and I enjoyed your point earlier about how it made the other two films make more sense but at times I felt the film on it's own lacked the completeness of the other two as stand alones. Maybe that's more of a result of being the film that rounds off the series. Speaking of rounding things off, I wasn't a big fan of the last scenes sho0wing brief 'this is what happened after moments'. In a long film it came across as rushed, there you go extras which is why that thing with Alfred annoys me slightly. One moment he is bawling his eyes out the next he's in Florence.
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 05:19 PM
Bane looked like he had some sort of power in his hands, nothing in the flashback suggested a reason why he was so strong which made me think I either missed something in Bane's dialogue (which was really in and out for me at times in terms of audibility) or I just over analysed those early scenes. Did he have super strength, was it explained in the film? I feel like I missed something big there.
Nah, he's just a beast like that.
Maybe underestimating the lifetime of the tech that Bruce Wayne already had. I just assumed replacement parts and maintencance would be quite expensive for somebody without a job.
Lucious Fox isn't going to charge him for protecting Gotham.
That scene on the ice was bizarre. The henchman even showed a degree of sympathy with the guy that had been exiled, it just didn't come across well. I know Bane didn't care either way and more than likely wanted him dead whenever but why not just kill him when he killed his boss. I don't recall him re-appearing in between those two scenes. If there was a spare 'good' character lying around, it would have made more sense to me personally.
Like I said, just a scene to show how fucked up things got.
It was a good film and I enjoyed your point earlier about how it made the other two films make more sense but at times I felt the film on it's own lacked the completeness of the other two as stand alones. Maybe that's more of a result of being the film that rounds off the series. Speaking of rounding things off, I wasn't a big fan of the last scenes sho0wing brief 'this is what happened after moments'. In a long film it came across as rushed, there you go extras which is why that thing with Alfred annoys me slightly. One moment he is bawling his eyes out the next he's in Florence.
Fairly certain there's been some passive of time between each epilogue scene, perhaps into weeks. And Alfred didn't look like the happiest man on Earth. Bruce in fact did. lol
The Mackem
07-30-2012, 06:03 PM
Nah, he's just a beast like that.
Lucious Fox isn't going to charge him for protecting Gotham.
Like I said, just a scene to show how fucked up things got.
Fairly certain there's been some passive of time between each epilogue scene, perhaps into weeks. And Alfred didn't look like the happiest man on Earth. Bruce in fact did. lol
Bane was a good character. He did seem to possess ridiculous strength that wasn't really addressed and I actually thought there was some sort of device behind him early in the film. I mean I get you can just say he was just abnormally strong but it was off the richter scale strong. The rest of the series didn't seem to have that sort of implasuibility behind a villain's character make up. I liked the twist with Miranda yet thought it harmed the build up that had went into Bane the character up until that point.
Blake isn't going to control his own destiny and he doesn't have a job to finance his own crusade. I guess I don't like that development. What if Fox dies, loses control of the board or goes insane? Just, hate those quick scenes at the end, regardless of how much time passes. Alfred one I indicated is the worst for me though.
To add to that river scene, something else I wasn't fond of was Foley's redemption of sort (my thought in brackets). He comes to the fight (yay), dead (oh, well, doesn't really matter).
Maybe some of it means more to Batman fans that know a bit more of the backstory. I didn't get these sort of reactions to the other two, though.
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 06:13 PM
The Foley death rubbed me the wrong way as well. He mustered up the will to fight, I expected him to make a slight difference in a heroic sense. Then he gets killed, and it kinda makes Gordon look like a dick as he was actually better off at home. If he made a big save and then died it would have been better for me.
Requiem
07-30-2012, 07:30 PM
Bane wasn't just a man with incredible strength. He was a former member of the League of Shadows. A martial arts expert. Combining that sort of strength with the ability to leverage it against even the toughest opponents makes him a formidable foe.
Ive seen it was an awesome film loved the ending but I really wish they had specified Banes injury I was curious as to what type of injury would keep him in constant pain if not relived via the mask any ideas?
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 08:54 PM
Actually I think the doctor botched his work on him, perhaps something involving his nerves. They never specify.
dronepool
07-30-2012, 09:12 PM
I really hope the next Batman sticks to looking good even if it goes a different direction. I just prefer it not to look or feel like a super high budget Power Rangers movie, which was what Avengers made me think of, even if it was a good movie.
I think a mix Se7en and Hellboy would be cool.
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 09:14 PM
As a Power Ranger fan I can't say I see what you're saying there. Do you mean the bright colors?
dronepool
07-30-2012, 09:21 PM
The brightness is one thing as well but I meant it makes it obvious it's a comic book/superhero movie. Nolan's Batman is more comic inspired than 'superhero' and it has more depth.
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 09:28 PM
Well Avengers did aim to be unabashedly a superhero movie in every sense of the term. Probably wasn't for you.
The Phase 1 movies and Nolan's trilogy are two different beasts with different ends which are to be admired for different reasons.
dronepool
07-30-2012, 09:44 PM
Avengers is cool and all but it's something I'd see twice and not really feel like watching it again unless I was in the right mood. I guess just prefer movies like V For Vendetta, The Crow or Nolan's trilogy over most Marvel films, even though I like those Marvel films the one's I mentioned just seem to be more intricate and have more replay value to me.
Swiss Ultimate
07-30-2012, 09:45 PM
As a Power Ranger fan I can't say I see what you're saying there. Do you mean the bright colors?
Christopher Nolan's The Green Ranger Trilogy
Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 09:50 PM
Avengers is cool and all but it's something I'd see twice and not really feel like watching it again unless I was in the right mood. I guess just prefer movies like V For Vendetta, The Crow or Nolan's trilogy over most Marvel films, even though I like those Marvel films the one's I mentioned just seem to be more intricate and have more replay value to me.
That's cool.
Christopher Nolan's The Green Ranger Trilogy
Sure.
Fignuts
07-31-2012, 12:17 AM
Have no idea what the Mackem is talking about in regards to Bane's strength.
Nothing he did in the movie seemed superhuman.
RoXer
07-31-2012, 12:25 AM
Like when he punched the concrete out of that pillar
RoXer
07-31-2012, 12:25 AM
Or lifted another man over his head with his upper body
Fignuts
07-31-2012, 12:34 AM
I don't know, I've seen jacked dudes crack concrete pillars in tons of action movies.
Besides, martial artists break concrete all the time, and this character was trained by the deadliest assassins in the world. It's not like he smashed it to pieces, he just broke a piece off.
As for lifting the dude up with just his upper body, yeah, I'll give you that, but that's still just nit picking at that point. I just assumed the just over exaggerated his strength a little bit in that scene. Super powers never crossed my mind.
loopydate
07-31-2012, 01:17 AM
Yeah, I just figured he built that body in hell, honed his fighting with the League, and the result was a dude who could punch through a wall or lift a (basically defenseless) man over his head with ease.
Skippord
07-31-2012, 01:58 AM
I was just thinking it wouldn't be the worst idea to do a movie based sort of off the Arkham City/Asylum series
Krimzon7
07-31-2012, 02:59 AM
Bane, after exerting a literal shit ton of energy, and having his mask that was releasing his pain killer partially disabled, managed to punch through a fucking concrete LOAD BEARING pillar.
I call bullshit on any of you assholes thinking that some body could in any sense of understanding do this. Try punching a punching bag for 45 seconds, and then rear back and punch the shit out of the bag. I guarantee that you won't be able to lift an arm.
Now I would venture to guess that the pain that Bane felt shen Bats started disabling the mask sent a spike of adrenaline that sent him to another level of strength.
dronepool
07-31-2012, 03:37 AM
Things I want in the next Batman:
The Circus of Strange (Professor Pyg, The Mad Hatter, Eduardo Flamingo)
The Riddler
Death-Cult / Circus / Murder Mystery'
Gargoyles in Gotham.
Nolan esque multi-layered plot/on going theme
Corporate CockSnogger
07-31-2012, 04:37 AM
Christopher Nolan's The Green Ranger Trilogy
I'd watch the shit out of that.
Actually I think the doctor botched his work on him, perhaps something involving his nerves. They never specify.
How is the mask helping him?
Is he inhaling some gas through that mask or what?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_(comics)#Fictional_character_biography
The Destroyer
07-31-2012, 05:52 AM
Yeah, it's anaesthetic gas or something. Dulls the pain enough so he can function.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_(comics)#Fictional_character_biography
Based from what I read in here this thread, it is a tad different in DKR than in comics.
So fuck you.
SlickyTrickyDamon
07-31-2012, 06:37 AM
The Foley death rubbed me the wrong way as well. He mustered up the will to fight, I expected him to make a slight difference in a heroic sense. Then he gets killed, and it kinda makes Gordon look like a dick as he was actually better off at home. If he made a big save and then died it would have been better for me.
As one of the only cops not trapped he should have never been at home to begin with.
Better to die like a hero fighting for your family and town than live as a pussy.
SlickyTrickyDamon
07-31-2012, 06:41 AM
Yeah, it's anaesthetic gas or something. Dulls the pain enough so he can function.
Some sort of steroids too right?
I would love to see Channing Tatum as Batman. He definitely has the acting chops and could really lend credibility to the role.
Get the fuck out
Skippord
07-31-2012, 07:02 AM
I think that Jesse Eisenberg would be a great Batman
Ok, is there something of a hint that that Blake guy is supposed to be Robin?
Ok, is there something of a hint that that Blake guy is supposed to be Robin?
Nope
Kalyx triaD
07-31-2012, 07:47 AM
Blake is obviously Hush.
Oh shit how about Hush for the next trilogy?
The Mackem
07-31-2012, 07:58 AM
I don't know, I've seen jacked dudes crack concrete pillars in tons of action movies.
Besides, martial artists break concrete all the time, and this character was trained by the deadliest assassins in the world. It's not like he smashed it to pieces, he just broke a piece off.
As for lifting the dude up with just his upper body, yeah, I'll give you that, but that's still just nit picking at that point. I just assumed the just over exaggerated his strength a little bit in that scene. Super powers never crossed my mind.
Have no idea what the Mackem is talking about in regards to Bane's strength.
Nothing he did in the movie seemed superhuman.
The strength was played up. There is something I've really misinterpreted from Bane's first physical altercations on the plane and killing Daggett because I got that super human strength impression early doors and carried it with me through the film and then outside.
The way the flashbacks were going I thought there was going to be a reveal over his strength because he seemingly went from normal but compassionate thug in prison to some super powerful guy with a mask. Just felt cheated out of an explanation. The villains from the other films didn't need this as there were no flashbacks into their characters origins. Also they didn't (in my limited assessments) have characteristics that were beyond mental issues.
That bit about his mask passed me by because it seemed to be fast paced when they were explaining. I didn't catch anything past, the prison doctors fixed him up and he has a mask.
I had no prior knowledge of Bane and I don't know how much of this is people calling on prior knowledge and how much of it is what I have missed in the film. I'll end up re-watching at a later date just to see what it was that has 'thrown me'.
I just read somewhere it was revealed Blake's full name was Robin John Blake and he started hanging around in the Batcave once Wayne was gone.
So I figured SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT SON IT MUST BE ROBIN THE FAGGOT BALLET DANCER!
Skippord
07-31-2012, 08:06 AM
Blake is obviously Hush.
Oh shit how about Hush for the next trilogy?
this, Hush is my favorite Batman villain
I just read somewhere it was revealed Blake's full name was Robin John Blake and he started hanging around in the Batcave once Wayne was gone.
So I figured SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT SON IT MUST BE ROBIN THE FAGGOT BALLET DANCER!
What?
I thought it was Beretta
JimmyMess
07-31-2012, 09:04 AM
the music has made these movies even more epic than they already were. It completes them
@JimmyMess - Thoroughly agree. Hans Zimmer has done a superlative job with the music. Superlative.
Reavant
07-31-2012, 11:38 AM
ok bane was wearing a mask pumping him full of pain killers. So one could say that he was stronger because he wasnt being affected by the pain of muscle strain when he would exert himself.
also he was trained by the league of shadows... grew up in a prison where he fought for his life every day aaand the end where he punched through a wall... batman was starting to beat him and had broken his mask and one could say he had an adrenalin spike...
OR it was a FUCKING MOVIE and an awesome one at that so stop bitching
The Mackem
07-31-2012, 12:12 PM
Did Bane really grow up in a prison considering the switcheroo twist? Was the pain killers reference made in the movie because I didn't catch that?
It was a movie doesn't cut it considering how the other two didn't beg these sort of questions from me. I'm asking because I'm wanting opinions.
would like to make friends with Kalyx irl just so I could ask him questions he perceives to be "stupid" about comic books or superheroes to see if everyday I could make him shake violently and eventually pop like a kettle that's been left on too long
Kalyx triaD
07-31-2012, 01:08 PM
Actually I'd calmly and assertively explain why you're wasting my time with such questions. You'd get used to it after a while, and eventually learn to think for yourself before you bother me with banal inquiry.
I'm actually more empowering than condescending or volatile. Khuntry and Ermax can fill you in.
Damian Rey
07-31-2012, 04:38 PM
Did Bane really grow up in a prison considering the switcheroo twist? Was the pain killers reference made in the movie because I didn't catch that?
It was a movie doesn't cut it considering how the other two didn't beg these sort of questions from me. I'm asking because I'm wanting opinions.
The guy taking care of Bruce stated Bane was indeed born there. Bane himself, while beating the tar outta Bats, states he didnt the light of day until he was a grown man. The e scene that shows a young Ra's kneeling down to him and rescuing him, presumeably, is Bane's first experience outside of prison.
Reavant
07-31-2012, 04:40 PM
Did Bane really grow up in a prison considering the switcheroo twist? Was the pain killers reference made in the movie because I didn't catch that?
It was a movie doesn't cut it considering how the other two didn't beg these sort of questions from me. I'm asking because I'm wanting opinions.
the old guys in the prison completely explained bain. yes the mask pumps him full of morphine because the doctor got him hooked on it when he tried to fix him after he got mauled after letting talia ecape
bain said he was born and raised there too when he fought batman the first time...
did you watch the movie with ear plugs in???
The Mackem
07-31-2012, 04:48 PM
The guy taking care of Bruce stated Bane was indeed born there. Bane himself, while beating the tar outta Bats, states he didnt the light of day until he was a grown man. The e scene that shows a young Ra's kneeling down to him and rescuing him, presumeably, is Bane's first experience outside of prison.
When Bane says he is born there, isn't that just part of the deception hiding Miranda's true identity. Also, the men in the prison skate around the identity of the child without revealing who it was. That was my interpretation. When you re-evaluate that the kid was the girl and Bane is not Ra's Al Ghul's kid it makes you see Bane as just another criminal that happened to be in the prison.
His effectiveness in the dark being simply his League of Shadows training, possibly.
The Mackem
07-31-2012, 04:49 PM
the old guys in the prison completely explained bain. yes the mask pumps him full of morphine because the doctor got him hooked on it when he tried to fix him after he got mauled after letting talia ecape
bain said he was born and raised there too when he fought batman the first time...
did you watch the movie with ear plugs in???
Explained above
I'm asking because I didn't catch any explanation of Bain. There was some really bad audio when I was watching. Some of Bane's dialogue and the foreign doctor was awful when I watched.
Yeh went and watched this, couldnt understand wtf Bane was on about but Anne Hathaway was fit.
Batman Returns is still GOAT.
Corporate CockSnogger
07-31-2012, 06:33 PM
Nah Adam West Batman is the best.
Damian Rey
07-31-2012, 07:30 PM
When Bane says he is born there, isn't that just part of the deception hiding Miranda's true identity. Also, the men in the prison skate around the identity of the child without revealing who it was. That was my interpretation. When you re-evaluate that the kid was the girl and Bane is not Ra's Al Ghul's kid it makes you see Bane as just another criminal that happened to be in the prison.
His effectiveness in the dark being simply his League of Shadows training, possibly.
The caregiver does sau Bane was born there, and starts to explain Banes condition, which resulted from protecting/helping young Talia. He cuts himself off due to feeling Bane, whonow runs the prison, wouldnt want anyone to know his story. He was born and raised there. Talia was born there, but only spent a small percentage of her life there due to escaping and finding her fathet. I dont think amything Bane said during his play-by-playbeat down of Batman was done to fool Bruce. He pretty much revealed his whole plan to Bruce. The only thing he held back was Talia's true identity for fairly obvious,reasons.
The Mackem
08-01-2012, 07:58 AM
The caregiver does sau Bane was born there, and starts to explain Banes condition, which resulted from protecting/helping young Talia. He cuts himself off due to feeling Bane, whonow runs the prison, wouldnt want anyone to know his story. He was born and raised there. Talia was born there, but only spent a small percentage of her life there due to escaping and finding her fathet. I dont think amything Bane said during his play-by-playbeat down of Batman was done to fool Bruce. He pretty much revealed his whole plan to Bruce. The only thing he held back was Talia's true identity for fairly obvious,reasons.
See, I'm not so sure.
When Wayne was talking about 'Bane', the others would talk about 'the child' seemingly deliberately not gender specific even though at the time you would be assuming they meant a boy.
Bane's comments when fighting Batman could be either; misdirection, truth or even metaphoric (he was technically born there in his new guise, as Bane, with the mask).
Reavant
08-01-2012, 11:27 AM
no if you see it again you will see the caregivers talk about bane and the child differently.
bruce brings up bane when talking about the child and the caregivers change the subject.
The Mackem
08-01-2012, 12:28 PM
It seemed like a male exclusive prison with the woman's insertion a bit of a 'big deal' leading to her rape/murder. If Bane was born there, maybe his mother suffered the same fate but it just seems a bit too much of a stretch but I won't rule it out.
Bane's backstory doesn't all add up, even in his own words.
Whilst fighting Batman in the sewers he says that he was "Born in the dark" and that he "didn't see the light until he was a grown man". However, he also explains that the design of the prison includes the ability to see the sky (and therefore the light) as a way to create (false) hope - as he intends to do in Gotham.
Might be going to see it again tonight, I'll be sure to pay extra attention to the explanation of Bane's birth/life.
Kalyx triaD
08-01-2012, 12:54 PM
You can still find that a prison like that is 'dark', in more ways than actual luminous. A lot of the dialogue is meta like that.
Requiem
08-01-2012, 01:20 PM
People reading way into stuff that actually had really simple answers.
Damian Rey
08-01-2012, 01:26 PM
I find looking God knows how many feet up at a hole in the ceiling different than actual being in sunlivht, which is what i took as what Bane meant.
Big Vic
08-01-2012, 01:32 PM
Maybe the hole used to have a cover on it.
Corporate CockSnogger
08-01-2012, 01:51 PM
I think the whole looking up at the light at the end of the tunnel thing is a metaphor for Nolan's homosexuality. That's what I got from it anyway.
Triple Naitch
08-01-2012, 02:27 PM
Ya'll niggas know nothing about Plato's Allegory of the Cave.
The Mackem
08-01-2012, 04:43 PM
When Commissioner Gordon asks who Batman really is and Batman gives him the story, Gordon should have said 'I still don't have a fucking clue!' :mad:
Corporate CockSnogger
08-01-2012, 04:48 PM
Lol yeah, doubt he'd remember putting a jacket over a kid like 30 years earlier.
Damian Rey
08-01-2012, 04:48 PM
Why in God's name would he say that? Batman made it clear as day.
Damian Rey
08-01-2012, 04:50 PM
The kid has a significant history with the city, and his parents death was a high profile murder. Not hard to think Gordon would remember such a huge tragedy that had all sorts of implications directly effecting the city.
RoXer
08-01-2012, 05:09 PM
IF THE COPS WERE REALLY UNDERGROUND FOR THAT LONG THEN HOW COME NONE OF THEM GREW FACIAL HAIR?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Damian Rey
08-01-2012, 05:16 PM
They were regularly getting supplies. Thats probably how
The Mackem
08-01-2012, 05:24 PM
'Dude we need some Gillette Fusion blades, a few mirrors cos some idiot broke the last ones and can you please pick up our laundry cos we need those damn face towels'
The Mackem
08-01-2012, 05:29 PM
I've just been trying to find some sort of script or dialogue in the prison without any luck but it led me to this. Glad I'm not the only one not getting certain aspects although I don't agree with everything in the article on all of the separate pages.
http://www.slashfilm.com/15-bothered-the-dark-knight-rises/4/
Multiple Ending Syndrome - At least at the end of Return of the King, each ending got room to breathe. Here, within the span of five minutes, we’re supposed to process the following: 1) Batman dies in a blaze of glory, 2) Bruce Wayne donates all of his remaining assets to the betterment of children, tying up Blake’s storyline, 3) Bruce Wayne apparently figured out how to program the autopilot on The Bat? 4) Bruce Wayne survived the crash and is now enjoying a beautiful life in lord-knows-where with Selina Kyle, 5) Alfred is totally cool with all this, and does not lose his shit at all when he finds this out. 6) John Blake takes up the mantle as Batman, with no training, no resources or mentor. Also, no one notices that Bruce Wayne and Batman disappeared at the same time. WHAT?!
Kalyx triaD
08-01-2012, 05:44 PM
I wanna address all of that but fuck that.
Damian Rey
08-01-2012, 06:38 PM
Im with Kalyx. I give up.
The Mackem
08-02-2012, 03:42 AM
Batman wouldn't give up.
Disturbed316
08-02-2012, 05:10 AM
Can we no longer just watch a film without picking the shit out of it and just enjoy it?
Corporate CockSnogger
08-02-2012, 07:00 AM
Bane wasn't muscular enough, should've got a wrestler to portray him. Batista does films now doesn't he? Would've been a much better choice imo.
IF THE COPS WERE REALLY UNDERGROUND FOR THAT LONG THEN HOW COME NONE OF THEM GREW FACIAL HAIR?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
They had supplies. Hell I think those Chilian miners were.shaving and.throwing raves when they were stuck last year.
Ya'll niggas know nothing about Plato's Allegory of the Cave.
I know way more about it than I should. Thanks Lost.
Bane wasn't muscular enough, should've got a wrestler to portray him. Batista does films now doesn't he? Would've been a much better choice imo.
Ya serious?
Imagine a Batista Bomb on Batman instead of the back breaker- thing of beauty it would have been!
Kalyx triaD
08-02-2012, 09:33 AM
No.
Corporate CockSnogger
08-02-2012, 11:07 AM
The Rock also would've been a fine choice. They made Kingpin black so why not Bane?
Kalyx triaD
08-02-2012, 11:11 AM
Actually that would have worked fine, since Bane's nationality leaves room for skin color changes.
KalyX the black supremacist would want Bane to be black.
Well, fuck you, guy, how bout Eskimo?
This world needs more Eskimo villains.
Kalyx triaD
08-02-2012, 12:16 PM
"Kalyx the black supremacist."
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/428888_396665407049565_194245685_n.jpg
Corporate CockSnogger
08-02-2012, 05:53 PM
On the flipside though Liam Neeson also trained Obi-Wan and Batman so he kinda comes out on top in the end.
loopydate
08-02-2012, 05:55 PM
On the flipside though Liam Neeson also trained Obi-Wan and Batman so he kinda comes out on top in the end.
Yeah, but people keep kidnapping his family...
Triple Naitch
08-02-2012, 06:04 PM
And he got AIDs from an African prostitute.
Krimzon7
08-02-2012, 10:33 PM
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Krimzon7
08-02-2012, 10:33 PM
Fuck being his family member
Zeeboe
08-02-2012, 11:26 PM
Saw the film tonight and enjoyed it. Bane is a bad-ass. :y: For a film that was almost three hours long, it went by pretty fast.
Big Vic
08-03-2012, 09:50 AM
Also, no one notices that Bruce Wayne and Batman disappeared at the same time. WHAT?! I don't think anyone really saw him after bane took him to the hole they probably thought he died in the riots.
From wiki:
Batman is later praised as a hero, while Bruce is presumed killed in the riots. After Bruce's funeral, Blake wants to reveal Batman's identity to the world as a tribute to Bruce, but Gordon reminds him that it is best left as a mystery to the uninformed.
Zeeboe
08-03-2012, 12:44 PM
My spoiler-free review -
"The Dark Knight Rises" is a 2012 summer blockbuster superhero film. The movie is directed by Christopher Nolan, and stars Christian Bale as Batman. The film also has an amazing supporting cast of actors and actress's including Michael Caine as Alfred Pennyworth, Marion Cotillard as Miranda, Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox, Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Officer Blake, Gary Oldman as James Gordon, Matthew Modine as Officer Foley, Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, and Tom Hardy as Bane.
The less you know about this movie, the better, so I am going to not go into too many details and will just tell you what I wouldn't have mind someone telling me before I saw the film. i.e. What made the film great, and the characters.
Batman is retired, but some evil dude named Bane starts doing some evil deeds, which leads Batman out of retirement. What made the film great for me was the character Bane. He's one of the coolest villains I've seen in a very long time. One of the last villains I saw that really made an impact on me was the character "Stuntman Mike" from the 2007 film "Death Proof". That was over five long years ago, so seeing a new really cool villain has been long overdue.
Bane is a terrorist, and is Batman's greatest foe yet. He totally steals the show. To me, the ideal villain is a character that is strong both physically and mentally, and is fearless, and Bane is all three of those things. Batman is also strong both physically and mentally, and is fearless, and that's what makes Bane such a great foe. It seems that most of Batman's enemies are just crazy genius's, but to see Batman take on a character that can not only have a battle of wits with Batman, but a battle with fists as well is really entertaining. Some of Batman's opponents have also been a bit over-the-top and a little too comic bookish to take *too seriously* because you know someone like that could never exist in real life, but Bane strikes me as a character that really could walk the streets and do some serious damage. He's very intimidating.
Bane is also a new character for me, so to have a brand new and fresh character that I've never seen or heard of before really added to the entertainment value of the film because he had a mystic about him. He in general has a big presence about him, and when he is on the screen, he totally gets your full attention. You won't space out or anything. He has a really cool voice too that will just make you listen to everything he says.
Catwoman was a great character as well. Anne Hathaway did a great job. If you're familiar with the character however, you probably won't be in for too many surprises from her.
What makes a good action film for me is a film that has plenty of action scenes, and plenty of dialogue, but doesn't overdo either, and "The Dark Knight Rises" balances both those things perfectly. You have lots of good action, and lots of good talking scenes.
The music as always was wonderful. I also thought the film was more dark and depressing then the other Batman films, but that will just make you desire to cheer for Batman all the more. There wasn't much comic relief in film either. Nothing I noticed anyhow.
The film is 165 minutes, but I didn't even notice, and I wasn't ready for the film to end. There's a lot of twists and turns that will keep you on your seat.
All and all "The Dark Knight Rises" is a wonderful film. I highly recommend it and I can't wait to watch it again when it comes out on blu-ray.
DaBrasko
08-03-2012, 01:31 PM
Or lifted another man over his head with his upper body
He basiclly Clean and Pressed him. Its not completely unreasonable for a freak like Bane to do that to a 230lbs(at most) man.
Damian Rey
08-03-2012, 06:44 PM
For the record, if there's one thing I feel TDKR sorely missed, it was James Newton Howard on the score. Now, don't get me wrong, I still love the score, own it, have all the bonus tracks, etc. But, I feel that it is clearly the weakest of the three efforts.
I like Hans Zimmer, and the music that he hits on in this one really hits, but I feel like Begins and TDK had a bit more, um, range? I feel like Begins and TDK kept growing and expanding, while TDKR, while very good, wasn't as broad.
I dunno, maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but wishing JNH was involved to help flesh out the score he helped build in the previous two is my lone complaint.
Kalyx triaD
08-03-2012, 07:06 PM
Did he help with them first two? I never knew that, thought it was all Zimmer.
I was saddened that the trailer songs were not in the movie. Gotham's Reckoning was used toward the Jaws effect for Bane and that was cool.
Destor
08-03-2012, 07:15 PM
He basiclly Clean and Pressed him. Its not completely unreasonable for a freak like Bane to do that to a 230lbs(at most) man.
yeah a guy i lift with does military press at 235 its very possible. and Bale cant weigh more than 185...so yeah.
Damian Rey
08-03-2012, 07:52 PM
Yep. Howatd suppossedly handled the softer, more emotional tracks. I too was expecting to hear a few of the trailer tracks and was bummed they werent there.
XCaliber
08-03-2012, 09:33 PM
Highly disappointed this track wasn't on the album it's from one of the best parts of the film too as far as I'm concerned:
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Reavant
08-03-2012, 09:36 PM
KalyX the black supremacist would want Bane to be black.
Well, fuck you, guy, how bout Eskimo?
This world needs more Eskimo villains.
Bain is hispanic and the rock is half filipino and with that mask on, would look just as hispanic as any real one
See?
I didn't know Bain was Hispanic.
DaBrasko
08-04-2012, 09:48 AM
yeah a guy i lift with does military press at 235 its very possible. and Bale cant weigh more than 185...so yeah.
I said 230 to allow for weight of the suit and it being wet. :D
Heyman
08-04-2012, 03:16 PM
I watched Dark Knight Rises on opening night.
I absolutely loved the movie for a large number of reasons (too lazy to explain), but I was greatly amused by the "face pop" in the theater when Crane/Scarecrow made his cameo.
Gordon revealing himself to be Robin in the end also lead to a major "aaaaaaah" moment in the crowd.
And in all honesty, Bruce Wayne "rising" out of the prison is probably the most powerful "movie moment" for me in all my years of watching movies. Very powerful stuff and it soaked me right in.
The final scene with Alfred and Bruce Wayne also got me a bit choked up. Not even going to lie about that.
All in all, this was the greatest trilogy of all time in my opinion.
Nolan REALLY understands Batman and I can't wait to see his work in Man of Steel.
Gordon revealing himself to be Robin in the end also lead to a major "aaaaaaah" moment in the crowd.
I went to see the Dark Knight Rises just yesterday and what?
JimmyMess
08-05-2012, 08:04 AM
The final scene with Alfred and Bruce Wayne also got me a bit choked up. Not even going to lie about that.
Yep. me too, lol.
Yeah, the little shit from 3rd Rock From the Sun is Robin.
Fignuts
08-06-2012, 12:55 AM
Highly disappointed this track wasn't on the album it's from one of the best parts of the film too as far as I'm concerned:
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It is on the album.
Track is called "Why Do We Fall"
XCaliber
08-06-2012, 07:15 PM
It is on the album.
Track is called "Why Do We Fall"
Chant is completely missing though it's not the same.
Damian Rey
08-06-2012, 09:50 PM
"Why do we Fall?" Might be my favorite track. I don't need to hear the chant when I hear this song. I absolutely love this track and wouldn't change anything about it
One of the little things I loved was the way Selina's goggles would look like cat ears when they Saar on her head.
Krimzon7
08-07-2012, 06:09 AM
One of the little things I loved was the way Selina's goggles would look like cat ears when they Saar on her head.
this, and how they never called her 'Catwoman', or 'The Cat' and they sparingly made a newspaper headline mention of that alias.
Triple Naitch
08-07-2012, 11:51 AM
They did the same thing with Scarecrow. They always just called him Dr. Crane. Little things like that make come off as less cheesy and almost realistic.
Saw it. Was very good. Not as good as The Dark Knight. Ending was about as literal as they come. So ends this in depth review.
Reavant
08-07-2012, 05:44 PM
They did the same thing with Scarecrow. They always just called him Dr. Crane. Little things like that make come off as less cheesy and almost realistic.
he actually referred to himself as the scarecrow
Kalyx triaD
08-07-2012, 05:49 PM
Yep, at the final battle when the chick called him Crane.
El Vaquero de Infierno
08-07-2012, 05:55 PM
It is great to see Tom Hardy go from being quite naff (Star Trek: Nemesis) to being one of those actors that just dominates the screen with his presence (Bronson, TDKR) and appear to be immersed in the character, unlike someone like Tom Cruise who is basically "Tom Cruise" in ever film.
Kalyx triaD
08-07-2012, 06:12 PM
Tom Cruise is awesome, though.
Just got back from a second viewing (new Tom Cruise trailer was on before, no interest in that).
You pick up on so much more with the second viewing; dialogue with a deeper/double meaning, the fact that Talia tricked Gordon into tagging the dummy truck, etc.
Made myself smile at the end imaging what might come next...
As we leave TDKR we have Bruce Wayne in retirement and Robin John Blake ready to pick up the reigns as The Caped Crusader.
A nuclear bomb exploded off the coast of Gotham with no immediate effect (outside of the bluray radius/no tsunami).
But what if there were long term effects? An increased level of radiation, perhaps?
Radiation that creates villains like Killer Croc, Clay Face and any number of the more "out there" characters from the rogues gallery.
Bruce comes back and we have the Dynamic Duo teaming up to save Gotham.
Throw Batgirl and some excruciating dialogue in and you might have something to rival Batman & Robin.
Triple Naitch
08-08-2012, 07:59 AM
It is great to see Tom Hardy go from being quite naff (Star Trek: Nemesis) to being one of those actors that just dominates the screen with his presence (Bronson, TDKR) and appear to be immersed in the character, unlike someone like Tom Cruise who is basically "Tom Cruise" in ever film.
Is Warrior any good?
Blue Demon
08-08-2012, 08:06 AM
Is Warrior any good?
I enjoyed Warrior...I thought it was fairly well done.
El Vaquero de Infierno
08-09-2012, 02:27 PM
I went to see it again today. With my view not influenced by the hype, I still enjoyed it. I sat in the middle of the IMAX auditorium this time round and I found that I could make out what everyone was saying, though whether it is because I already knew what was going to be said; I don't know. The music was still too high in the mix though.
Tom Cruise is awesome, though.
He just keeps sprinting.
Every fuckin' movie.
He just keeps sprinting.
I am going to get the trilogy set.
Kalyx triaD
08-13-2012, 09:03 AM
He just keeps sprinting.
Every fuckin' movie.
He just keeps sprinting.
He's a healthy guy.
Fignuts
08-13-2012, 09:35 AM
I see what they are saying though. He is the same guy in almost every movie he is in, as opposed to say Gary Oldman, who plays such different roles so effectively , that at times you don't even know it's him.
I see what they are saying though. He is the same guy in almost every movie he is in, as opposed to say Gary Oldman, who plays such different roles so effectively , that at times you don't even know it's him.
The William Shatner syndrome.
John Cusack suffers from it as well.
Fignuts
08-13-2012, 09:50 AM
Tropic Thunder was Tom Cruise's most impressive performance.
Tropic Thunder was Tom Cruise's most impressive performance.
True.
Kalyx triaD
08-13-2012, 11:34 AM
Really I don't mind certain actors being the same guy in every movie. Sometimes range isn't the important factor in casting someone. Sometimes, you literally want 'Jim Carrey' in a movie. Just him, and all the mannerisms that come with him.
parkmania
08-13-2012, 07:19 PM
Tony Danza suffered from this so much that even all his characters were named "Tony".
Savio
08-13-2012, 07:42 PM
really wish there was an epic fight scene at the end of this movie and not a gun shot
mitch_h
08-13-2012, 08:27 PM
Some of the greatest actors of all time are the same in every movie: Bogart, Stewart, Carey Grant, John Wayne etc etc. These guys, like Cruise, have a big movie star presence and as Kalyx kind of hinted at, it works for the type of movies they did/do.
Kalyx triaD
08-13-2012, 10:11 PM
really wish there was an epic fight scene at the end of this movie and not a gun shot
Cannon to the gut was kinda anti-climactic, but Bruce got his victory in a brawl.
Well its the only logical way to beat bane who is smart and tough short of cutting his supply of anesthetic completely and having him die of shock from the pain or something but it was a blink and miss death scene for sure
Damian Rey
08-14-2012, 12:32 AM
Not a ton of options for Bane's death. Batman surely wasnt going to do it. And breaking his mask would have been repetative.
Tropic Thunder was Tom Cruise's most impressive performance.
So true.
El Vaquero de Infierno
08-14-2012, 06:44 AM
Some of the greatest actors of all time are the same in every movie: Bogart, Stewart, Carey Grant, John Wayne etc etc. These guys, like Cruise, have a big movie star presence and as Kalyx kind of hinted at, it works for the type of movies they did/do.
Jimmy Stewart was a way better actor than Tom Cruise.
I think with actors like Cruise, they are in the public eye so much that no matter how good a job they do a in a role, their over exposure in the media means you have a hard time getting past the shell, so to speak.
Those that don't whore themselves in the media are the ones that are better able to immerse themselves within a role and the viewer doesn't automatically think, "Hey, that is such-a-body playing...."
I refuse to agree James Stewart played the same character in every movie.
It's true about Wayne and Bogart, but not Stewart.
Malfeitor
08-14-2012, 04:51 PM
really wish there was an epic fight scene at the end of this movie and not a gun shot
That was kind of cheap, but if you think about it, if Batman would've tried to fight Bane after Talia stabbing him, I think Bane would've ultimately won the fight.
Kalyx triaD
08-14-2012, 05:04 PM
And Bane was going to shoot him in the face.
Krimzon7
08-14-2012, 05:12 PM
And Bane was going to shoot him in the face.
The. FACE!!!
Malfeitor
08-14-2012, 07:00 PM
"What if he shot you in the face?"
"What if he shot me in the face?"
"That was a risk we were willing to take."
dronepool
08-14-2012, 07:43 PM
The William Shatner syndrome.
I thought it was Adam Sandler syndrome?
mitch_h
08-14-2012, 08:31 PM
I refuse to agree James Stewart played the same character in every movie.
It's true about Wayne and Bogart, but not Stewart.
Well I guess Stewart kinda broke from the folksy "gee shucks" characters of his early films into something darker and more intense when he started doing Anthony Mann westerns and Hitchcock films. But anyway, I too think Stewart and Bogey and Grant are all better than Cruise. I just wanted to make the point that you don't have to be an intense method actor like Daniel Day-Lewis or Pacino to be a good actor.
JimmyMess
08-18-2012, 08:51 AM
The last few minutes are so golden. Gets me every time! Its what everyone wants!
Damian Rey
08-18-2012, 08:31 PM
Saw it again for a third time. Just amazing. I can't get over the ending. So well done. Seeing it for a fourth time Monday.
El Fangel
08-18-2012, 09:57 PM
For the last several days, I have been using Banes Chant as my alarm. It gradually gets louder everytime it plays until its at full then just keeps playing.
Epic way to get up every day.
Damian Rey
08-19-2012, 09:43 AM
Fallen Angel, you've just given me the greatest idea.
Lock Jaw
08-19-2012, 12:35 PM
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Damian Rey
08-19-2012, 12:40 PM
Lol, hilarious.
Malfeitor
08-19-2012, 12:55 PM
Saw it again for a third time. Just amazing. I can't get over the ending. So well done. Seeing it for a fourth time Monday.
I think I'm going for round 5 next weekend.
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The guy playing Jim Gordon kinda looks like Seth Green.
Also, nice.
Damian Rey
08-19-2012, 02:16 PM
I think I'm going for round 5 next weekend.
Show off. Monday will likely be my final theatrical outing. I want to build up anticipation for the bluray. Theres a few scenes that didn't make the cut. Wonder if we will get done deleted scenes.
Corporate CockSnogger
08-19-2012, 05:28 PM
The only Batman film I would watch 5 times in such quick succession would have to star Adam West.
I think going to see the same movie 5 times is fuckin' retarded.
No other ideas what to spend your money on?
Give it to me.
Kalyx triaD
08-19-2012, 07:19 PM
It seems he has an idea of how to spend his money, dick.
Damian Rey
08-19-2012, 07:21 PM
How about because it's an excellent film that has replay value?
It seems he has an idea of how to spend his money, dick.
Yeah, going to see the same movie 5 times. Great idea.
Go buy yourself a second Thor's hammer toy, "dick".
El Fangel
08-19-2012, 08:03 PM
Yeah, going to see the same movie 5 times. Great idea.
Go buy yourself a second Thor's hammer toy, "dick".
You do know Sixx, that while I think it may be a little excessive too I have gone and seen a movie twice.
Reason being? You don't get to watch a movie in a theater more then once usually.
Damian Rey
08-19-2012, 09:02 PM
I'm sure, like everyone in the world with a decent paycheck, you spend/waste money on whatever iut is that suits your fancy that others would find excessive/unnecessary. Atleast the five times was spent on a film thats actually well done and one of the best of the year instead of some shit heap like Twilight.
El Fangel
08-19-2012, 09:05 PM
You talking to me? ARE YOU TALKING TO ME!?! YOU MUST BE TALKING TO ME! THERE AIN'T NO ONE ELSE HERE!
Kalyx triaD
08-19-2012, 10:40 PM
Yeah, going to see the same movie 5 times. Great idea.
His idea, which has shit to do with whatever the hell you think money should be spent on.
Lock Jaw
08-19-2012, 10:56 PM
I have never seen a movie twice in theaters. Usually just wait for the DVD and then watch it as many times as I please.
I saw 10 Things I Hate About You twice at the cinema/"movie theaters"
this completes this edition of a CSL post
I saw 10 Things I Hate About You twice at the cinema/"movie theaters"
this completes this edition of a CSL post
That's the romantic comedy with Ledger and this god awful looking chick, right?
Niiiiice.
loopydate
08-20-2012, 10:20 AM
The only Batman film I would watch 5 times in such quick succession would have to star Adam West.
Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb!
Droford
08-24-2012, 06:12 PM
I'm finally going to get around to seeing this next weekend. Regal is showing it on their rpx screen long with avengers, Spiderman and hunger games for $6 (5 with their movie card thing) a movie instead of $11 for a normal movie and 15 for rpx..
Lock Jaw
08-24-2012, 06:25 PM
I know they'll never make a live action continuation of this series.... but they should totally make ANIMATED MOVIES in this universe. Maybe with Bruce traveling around the world and starting Batman Incorporated.
Malfeitor
08-26-2012, 11:01 PM
I think going to see the same movie 5 times is fuckin' retarded.
No other ideas what to spend your money on?
Give it to me.
What are you going to do with the 6 dollars for my ticket? Buy a happy meal?
Malfeitor
08-26-2012, 11:02 PM
Show off. Monday will likely be my final theatrical outing. I want to build up anticipation for the bluray. Theres a few scenes that didn't make the cut. Wonder if we will get done deleted scenes.
I can't wait until it comes out on Blu-Ray. I'm sure it'll be loaded with all kinds of goodies.
What are you going to do with the 6 dollars for my ticket? Buy a happy meal?
Hm. Smokes and 3 beers.
Or a bottle of vodka.
There are so many possibilities.
Skippord
08-27-2012, 05:06 AM
do any of these possibilities not end with forced sodomy?
do any of these possibilities not end with forced sodomy?
You're expecting too much.
You can also change the 6 bucks to nickels and throw it in a fountain.
Or throw them off top of a building.
Malfeitor
08-27-2012, 09:22 PM
Hm. Smokes and 3 beers.
Or a bottle of vodka.
There are so many possibilities.
Waste of money if you ask me.
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