The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim

[El Fangel]

So its like WoW, only yinno...good?

[Verbose Minch]

Nobody plays Elder Scrolls games for the main story. It's all about the side quests.

[El Fangel]

Another question, will this suck my soul out if I buy it?

Aka free time?

[RP]

This game has more interest in sucking your sole, then your wife does, sucking your penis.

[El Fangel]

This game has a foot fetish? Hawt!

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Another question, will this suck my soul out if I buy it?

Aka free time?

Are there not enough fucking posts talking about the game in this thread already for you to get an impression of it? Is there not enough written already on the internet? Just buy it or shut the fuck up. No one is interested in you debating it with yourself, you prick.

[El Fangel]

I was merely asking if I will want to play anything else after I purchase this until I have completed it as it seems a game you will devote a lot of free time to.

Now go back to the MW3 thread and continue to goad me like a good little boy.

[El Fangel]

For those who have played Dragons Age, would you say this is as good or better.

Think Funky was Dragon Ages biggest supporter, but not sure if he has this.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I refuse to compare a strategy RPG and a first person action RPG based on the arbitrary fact that "there be dragons".

It's also Dragon Age, not Dragons Age or Dragon Ages as have been interchanged within the same post somehow.

[El Fangel]

I wasn't looking to compare them on gameplay but rather story and how much you were impressed.

I plan on buying either way though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The story in Dragon Age is better, as it's a linear progression with the full focus on the story. The story of Skyrim is fun to play, but the actual plot may as well be a post-it.

[El Fangel]

What about overall impression, like what would you give each out of 100.

[Crimson]

Are there not enough fucking posts talking about the game in this thread already for you to get an impression of it? Is there not enough written already on the internet? Just buy it or shut the fuck up. No one is interested in you debating it with yourself, you prick.

:rofl:

[Requiem]

I hate that you always ask me my opinion on things and are like "Ok good I will/wont buy that" and then you don't/do anyways or you always ask for more opinions.

Like how Dragon Age is still above Mass Effect on your play list, or like how you bought MW3 after telling me like 4 times that you weren't going to buy it. Or asking if I thought Skyrim was good and then saying ok I will get that, and then coming here and asking for more opinions on whether it is worth it or not.

[El Fangel]

Until I actually have the game, I wont know how good it is until I ask.

Once I HAVE the game, I can discuss gameplay. How that's not apparent I don't know.

[El Fangel]

Also, I have been playing two games at a time, so once I'm done Bioshock, Mass Effect is up.

[Razzamajazz]

so you'll start playing this in 3 years?

[Funky Fly]

What about overall impression, like what would you give each out of 100.

Dragon Age (plus the day 1 DLC) was the perfect gaming experience. I got wverything I wanted and more out of it. Put in 90+ hours four separate times into that game. 100/100

Skyrim has a short, kinda weak main story. It can be finished in 2 hours. There is so much other shit to do in the game and it's so much fun to play that you'll probably put well over 100 hours into it. Plus it has so many winks and nods and sweet little touches (good samaritans "helpfully" returning items you drop). I've not sunk nearly enough time to give it a numerical score (I'm level 16), but it's definitely a must buy.

[El Fangel]

This is why Funky is more awesome then 99% of people on here. Thanks for the response man, much appreciated.

[Funky Fly]

Anytime.

[Gonzo]

Let me say this: I don't buy many games anymore, especially with a $60 price tag. I bought Skyrim day one. It's worth every red cent.

[El Fangel]

So yeah, I just made some kid happy for Christmas. His brother had an ad on Kijiji for MW3 offering $40 + Bioshock 2 (which I planned on purchasing anyways) I originally asked for $45 for my copy so essentially, Bioshock for $5 :)

Getting Skyrim tomorrow and also, Req, post that challenge for others to see. I plan on trying it myself.

[Requiem]

http://www.mpog.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4557876#4557876

[Requiem]

Also, for PC users there is a mod that makes the night sky a little better. People have been turning off their UI completely and using the stars to navigate.

[El Fangel]

Holy shit, that is awesome.

[El Fangel]

Words cannot describe how impressed I am.

Only problem I have is my tv is too old/shitty to show that small text in the corner at times.

Overwhelming. Just...overwhelming.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Get a room.

[El Fangel]

ECG, I dont ask you for anything but can you kindly PM your insults? That way I can read and ignore them in kind and people don't have to put up with you ruining threads because you feel the need to be an asshole.

Also, fucking bears. :( its like pitch dark and all I can hear is growling and snorting and then I see detected and I'm all like "shit" and crouch and hide. I have no idea where the bastard is, so I start walking and I pass a rock and

Well there was two of them and you can pretty much guess how long I stayed alive.

[RoXer]

TPWW would be a much different place if we all insulted each other through a PM.

But I'm willing to give it a shot.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

This could catch on.

I pray to god it doesn't.

[The Destroyer]

Finally got around to playing this, enjoying it so far.

Wonder if my attempt to play a hybrid magic/warrior type class will go as badly as it did in Oblivion.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Nobody plays Elder Scrolls games for the main story. It's all about the side quests.

Dunno what you're rambling about, but I found Morrowind's main storyline to be very engaging and exciting, and was absolutely (no lie) the only thing I did until it was completed.

Someone managed to do a little digging to see what was hidden in the Skyrim disc and apparently some areas that were in Morrrowind and Cyrodiiil were discovered locked away.

It wasn't just a quick template or placeholder but ended up being a complete low-res version of Morrowind’s Solstheim and Vvardfell areas along with the Imperial City in Cyrodiil.

What, no Mournhold, Knights of the Nine or Shivering Isles? Because if they're going to include Morrowind, Oblivion, and Bloodmoon, they might as well include Tribunal and the Oblvion G.o.t.Y. edition stuff too.

Hmm, learned a shout but it won't let me unlock it even tho I have 7 dragon souls.

Have you played through the main quest to the point where the Greybeards summon you personally up to High Hrothgar and had shout training from them? Because you can't do shouts until after that, and you have to go back to them later after the main quest part in question in order to get them to show you how to do any of the shouts you've learned on word walls.

[Gonzo]

Dunno what you're rambling about, but I found Morrowind's main storyline to be very engaging and exciting, and was absolutely (no lie) the only thing I did until it was completed.



What, no Mournhold, Knights of the Nine or Shivering Isles? Because if they're going to include Morrowind, Oblivion, and Bloodmoon, they might as well include Tribunal and the Oblvion G.o.t.Y. edition stuff too.



Have you played through the main quest to the point where the Greybeards summon you personally up to High Hrothgar and had shout training from them? Because you can't do shouts until after that, and you have to go back to them later after the main quest part in question in order to get them to show you how to do any of the shouts you've learned on word walls.

I don't think that's accurate. AFAIK if you have dragon souls you can unlock any shouts you find. Or maybe I just didn't pay attention and you're right. It doesn't sound right though. Dunno.

[El Fangel]

Finally got around to playing this, enjoying it so far.

Wonder if my attempt to play a hybrid magic/warrior type class will go as badly as it did in Oblivion.

Well now, lets see if that goes as badly for me as well then. There is just something about a bloody axe in one hand and a fireball coming from the other that makes me all giddy :D

[DAMN iNATOR]

I don't think that's accurate. AFAIK if you have dragon souls you can unlock any shouts you find. Or maybe I just didn't pay attention and you're right. It doesn't sound right though. Dunno.

I have the Prima Games guide @ home but I'm at the library right now or I'd look it up. Could swear they said you had to talk to a Greybeard to learn anything but the push and whirlwind sprint thu'ums/shouts.

Not to be a dick but don't really care right now as far as all things Skyrim go. About to hit level 40 next time I play.

[DAMN iNATOR]

It's "tl;dr" to copy and paste but GameInformer has some helpful hints, especially if you're a series newb to TES.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/11/24/how-to-play-skyrim-like-a-professional.aspx

[El Fangel]

Installing this to HD at the moment. Anyone else done that?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Not I. I've only got 8.7GB of a 20GB hard drive as of right now to work with. Add in all the big games I've still yet to play (AC: Revelations, NFS: The Run, SR: The Third, MW3, and Batman: AC) in some form and I don't know if I'd want to take up precious space.

Although to be fair, I'll probably go to this little shop in town once I get money for X-Mas to upgrade to either a 60- or 120GB HDD.

[El Fangel]

Takes a bit to load at times, think it will help iirc.

[El Fangel]

I met my first giant last night.

He wasn't as friendly as the one Dahl wrote about. Smacked me about 30 feet into the air.

[The Destroyer]

Yeah, that seems to be standard. I had two bandit corpses virtually fall out of the sky in front of me, turned out they'd had a run in with a giant.

[Requiem]

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[LoDownM]

Have you played through the main quest to the point where the Greybeards summon you personally up to High Hrothgar and had shout training from them? Because you can't do shouts until after that, and you have to go back to them later after the main quest part in question in order to get them to show you how to do any of the shouts you've learned on word walls.

Yes. It was just a glitch, next time I booted up the game it worked fine.

[El Fangel]

The first time you,walked out of the cavern into the world did you say "...whoa"

[El Fangel]

Oh, what sort of class are you people playing?

Warrior with proficiency in destruction and restoration magic for me.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

My guy is a dark elf, mainly focused on destruction, but he has decent archery and sneaking skills, an I'm working on some Illusion stuff now.

Basically I built up archery and sneak so I get X3 for archery sneak attacks, and when I zoom with the bow, it slows down time 25%. Basically, I can usually sap some energy before an enemy, and then when they finally see me, I can blast them with magic. Pretty nice.

[Poit]

My character (an altmer) has changed focus a few times, but my current combat routine is to open up with ranged sneak attacks, then summon something and cast an armor buff, then go into melee with my dual axes. For hard fights, I dip into my giant pile of paralysis poisons.

[El Fangel]

Yeah, Battlecry and Paralysis is what will likely win you most fights it seems :)

[Kris P Lettus]

Just got it a few days ago.. Sneaky Argonian as per usual..

Kinda hard finding certain areas but after 2 days am already level 13..

Done most of the Companions shit, not too much main story, and a few other side quests..

Bought a house in Whiterun too..

[Emperor Smeat]

Bethesda will release for free to the public the development kit/tools to make mods for the PC version of the game starting next month.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/full-skyrim-developer-tools-releasing-next-month/

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

How long do you have to wait to re-marry if your wife dies "accidentally"? Wish I knew I could have married my Housecarl but she died in battle anyways.

[El Fangel]

This is hands down the best RPG I have ever played. I have been dicking around for hours creating potions.

[El Fangel]

GOTY.

[LuigiD]

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[D Mac]

Oh, what sort of class are you people playing?

Warrior with proficiency in destruction and restoration magic for me.

I'm a Nord with Heavy Armor, One handed weapons and destruction magic. Some Conjuration mixed in too. I love raising zombies.

[El Fangel]

I'm a Nord with Heavy Armor, One handed weapons and destruction magic. Some Conjuration mixed in too. I love raising zombies.

Im playing a nord with heavy armor, using war axes and using firebolt. :D

[El Fangel]

That moment when you are walking through a mountain pass, something just doesnt seem right and all of a sudden a huge dark shadow and you mutter "...fuck"

[El Capitano Gatisto]

And then what?

[El Fangel]

I realized I left my Fire Resistance potion in my cupboard in Whiterun :(

I managed to win, but used quite a bit of potions I had been saving.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Oh.

[El Fangel]

What class/style you play ECG?

[James Diesel]

Found out about followers being injured the hard way today. Was walking around with Erandur to Nightcaller Temple and outside the front door we were ambushed by 3-4 frost spiders (I was level 12). Anyways I finish them off and find Erandur to be crawling across the ground barely moving a foot every 5 minutes. Thought it was a glitch for a good half hour. Did dishes while I waited. Then found out I could just "wait" 3 hours. Ignorance aside, it was a good day

[Emperor Smeat]

Bethesda promises a lot of patches will arrive after the holiday season with the majority dealing with re-balancing the game's difficulty.

PC owners will also get preferred treatment when it comes to patches in terms of a lot more will be available and arrive faster than console owners. They are blaming Sony and Microsoft for the slower and stricter certification process.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/skyrims-pc-players-get-faster-service-those-playing-consoles


Also revealed was the save glitch issue for the PS3 version will be taking a long time to patch saying the problem is due to the game's engine and the way the PS3 uses its RAM. They don't have any quick fixes for that issue nor have seen it become a problem on the Xbox 360 version.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/obsidian-skyrim-playstation-3-fix-would-take-a-large-time-commitment/

[El Fangel]

Where the hell did you manage to stock up on paralysis potions.

[Poit]

A paralysis potion sounds like a terrible idea. You can just make paralysis poisons, though.

[LoDownM]

Finally went and did the achievement for restoring the thieves guild to glory. Talk about an annoying process. Only 9 to go till 100%. But they are all ones that are going to be more annoying and longer then the thieves guild one.

[D Mac]

Got Azura's Star. Was a bitch at the end beating the final boss and his Dremora minions.

[Verbose Minch]

Got Azura's Star. Was a bitch at the end beating the final boss and his Dremora minions.

I hope you got the Black Star. Otherwise, that's shitty for you.

[El Fangel]

A paralysis potion sounds like a terrible idea. You can just make paralysis poisons, though.

Despite my best efforts I still haven't discovered how to make one of those.

[El Fangel]

Also please no spoilers, I want that feeling of glee when I finally figure it out.

[James Diesel]

FYI: At Black-Briar Meadery in Riften, if you talk to Ungrien and choose "Tell me about Maven Black-Briar", you receive the option to Persuade. Repeat ad inifinitum to boost Speech

[D Mac]

I hope you got the Black Star. Otherwise, that's shitty for you.

No I took it to Azura's shrine.

[Good News Gertie]

I made a pretty foxy/terrifying lady Redguard. :cool:

She has a Mike Tyson.

[Requiem]

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[Drakul]

Just bought Skyrim, new, for £22 from GAME online. No idea why it's so low. I looked yesterday and it was £40.

I've not been following the game but it looks like it could be interesting. My one concern is playing it on an SD TV.
In my research, a lot of people have said the game is unplayable in SD while a few have said it is playable on their SDTV.
The rest of the replies boil down to "LOL SD TV!!".

I looked at a YouTube video of someone playing in SD and it all seemed easy to understand and read.
Anyone playing in SD?

[Captain of Fun]

LOL SD TV

[El Fangel]

Yes, small font is small.

[James Diesel]

uh-so very small :(

[El Fangel]

I planned on purchasing a nice flat screen soon and I think this might be what sways me.

[Drakul]

Like I said, I saw SD footage on YT and I could read the loading screen text pretty easily. It can't be that bad, can it?

I've been wanting HD for a while but I'm 23 and running my own house for the first time so I don't have the disposable income to spend £300+ on a new tv just so I can play games a little better on a console designed to be used on both SD and HD tvs.

I really think all games should be fully playable on either type of tv. It wouldn't take 5 minutes to have put in a text size selection. Rare patched bigger text in Banjo-Kazooie N&B after complaints so Bethesda can easily do the same though I bet they wont.

When they bring out Xbox 3 or PS4 and it's made solely for HD, fine but, when a console is designed for both SD and HD, that should be the case for everything about the console.

[El Fangel]

^ That. Thought my TV is kinda old and needs replacing anyways.

[Tommy Gunn]

Saw it on amazon for £22 last night, but thought I'd sleep on it before deciding to buy it, now it's £37. Son of a bitch!

Edit - one quick google search and gamestation are selling it for £22 inc delivery for Xbox 360. Hmmmm think this might be my xmas present to myself.

[El Fangel]

You had the chance to buy the game at half price and didn't?

[D Mac]

Dude, go to Rent A Center and get a TV. There's NO CREDIT CHECK!

[LoDownM]

Except in the long run you end up paying more for the TV from rent a center then you would just going to best buy and buying one.

[D Mac]

But then you'd have to wait if you don't have all the money up front. My 1080p 55 inch is here NOW. :p

[Requiem]

There are these things called credit cards D Mac. Best Buy has them too. They let you purchase things right away, and make payments over time until you have completely paid off the bill.

Same concept as renting, really.. except that you actually pay what it's worth, and you own it.

[D Mac]

lol why do you think I said NO CREDIT CHECKS. :p

[James Diesel]

Okay, so whoever has gotten the Sanguine Rose: Where did YOU find Sam Guevenne?

Searched high and low for the sneaky bastard. Bannered Mane? Nope. Bee and The Barb? Nope. Ivarstead? Nope. So on and so forth? Nope.

WHERE?!?!?!?!?

Edit: Found him in Windhelm

[Emperor Smeat]

Bethseda says the v1.3 patch for the PC is available now while no news when the Xbox 360 and PS3 will get the same patch.

They did give a quick-fix help for the PS3 version's problem with saves.
* "Turn off auto saves. This can cause temporary stuttering since the PS3 saves these files in the background. This is most noticeable with large saves when fast traveling to a new area or entering a new area that auto saves.

* Clear space on your hard drive. Skyrim makes heavy use of the hard drive, and freeing up space on here seems to help many people. Hard drive speeds also differ in PS3 models. Some users have reported increase performance by upgrading their drives.

* Waiting for time to pass. Many things are running in the world depending on what quests you've done or places you have visited. Using Wait or Rest options, passing time will clear up some of these. It depends how long you wait, it may take up to 30 days for some items. Saving, resetting, and loading after this will have the largest effect."
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/skyrim-ps3-fixes-coming-eventually-bethesda-offers-pro-tips/3844/

[El Fangel]

What exactly is the save problem?

[LoDownM]

From what I've seen when my sister plays on the PS3, it causes horrible framerate issues.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I need to find another token to the fortune teller I either dropped it or I sold it. Usually you can't sell items that are based on a mission.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

What exactly is the save problem?

Every save is a file and apparently it's big for the ps3 version.

[El Fangel]

Autosave keeps creating files for me on 360 and it gets slow at times. Thanks.

[Emperor Smeat]

Once a save goes over around 5MB in size, it starts to cause a lot of graphical and gameplay problems due to how the RAM in the PS3 works differently than on the Xbox 360 and PC. Auto-saving on the PS3 manages to make a bunch of those files way too large than what the PS3 or the game is actually expecting but since its more of a PS3 issue than a game engine issue, it will take them a lot longer to get a patch finished.

Its not as bad on the Xbox 360 due to it sharing a lot of its structure with the PC although most of its problems are related to graphical loading glitches.

[LoDownM]

Autosave keeps creating files for me on 360 and it gets slow at times. Thanks.

You should only have 3 auto saves. I turned off all the auto save options except for when fast traveling. Auto saving on menu got annoying, would always lag the menu.

[St. Jimmy]

Consoles eat dick. All the dicks. Use a fucking PC like anyone over the age of 16.

[James Diesel]

Does it matter which artifact you get from Azura for the achievement?

[Captain of Fun]

Consoles eat dick. All the dicks. Use a fucking PC like anyone over the age of 16.


Gaming isn't important enough to me, to spend the money on a PC.

Faggot.

[St. Jimmy]

Gaming isn't important enough to me, to spend the money on a PC.

Faggot.

The fuck are you typing on now, moron? Your fucking phone? If you're going to buy a PC, why not buy one that's decent. They don't cost that much anymore.

[James Diesel]

Oblivion Walker is obtainable if you fuck up on one and only one of the quests. Bug exposed

[LoDownM]

The fuck are you typing on now, moron? Your fucking phone? If you're going to buy a PC, why not buy one that's decent. They don't cost that much anymore.

:roll:

He couldn't possible be using an older computer now could he? Everyone goes out and spends 500+ bucks on a computer just to post on internet forums huh?

[Requiem]

$500 is not a lot considering the many uses a PC has compared to the very few uses something like an Xbox has. Especially when that $500 buys you something that is far more technologically advanced than an xbox.

[LoDownM]

That isn't the point here.

[St. Jimmy]

That isn't the point here.

Actually that's the exact point. On the nose, straight to the point.

[Drakul]

Consoles and even phones can do anything a PC can do. Internet, MSN, email, Facebook, YouTube, music, movies, games.

If you bought a 360 at launch for £300 you are set for gaming for at least 5 years.
If you bought a PC at the same time for £500 you were set for gaming for 2 years, then you had to go upgrade which cost you even more money. You already spent £200 more than the console gamer and now, to keep up, you need to buy upgrades. I'm not sure how that's a good thing and considered superior to console gaming.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh god, does anyone want to buy a GFX card? I don't want to play on PC anymore, I'm scared I'll catch douche.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Only kidding, I surpassed douche years ago. I'm just a cunt now.

[James Diesel]

Oh sorry. I was looking for the Skyrim thread. Must've stumbled into some Tech bullshit. My bad

[Requiem]

Will make a thread. Hold on fags.

[Requiem]

There

[Disturbed316]

Am absolutely loving this , but rather annoyed as I've somehow become a vampire and now everyone wants to kill me wherever I go, how can I fix this?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

sneak around at night and feed on somebody and then get the cure for vampirism later.

http://www.gamefront.com/skyrim-how-to-cure-vampirism/

[Captain of Fun]

Loving this game. Was hesitant to get it at first, because I didn't get hooked on oblivion, and I generally don't really get into the fantasy setting as much as I do others. But whatever it was about oblivion that bored me, is absent from this game, because I'm having as much fun, if not more than I did in the fallout games.

Honestly think no other company can make exploring as fun as bethesda makes it. Just something about it that I can't put my finger on. Maybe it's just that ominous chill I get when I discover a hidden location and that drumline hits with something like "Bloodwind's Tomb Discovered." Or maybe it's the sheer terror of running into an enemy that I am totally unequipped to deal with.

[Requiem]

Yeah, I felt the same about Oblivion. I'd just mess around in it most of the time and didn't actually want to -play- it like I do Skyrim. I just love exploring and watching my character's skills go up in Skyrim.

[Crimson]

Love this game too..but everytime I play I get stuck on it for hours. So I try to avoid playing it unless I have absolutley nothing on the agenda

[Disturbed316]

God, being a vampire fucking sucks! Currently in the blood thirsty stage but everytime I break in somewhere they wake up, its so annoying as it really hinders your progression because everyone wants to chop your fucking head off, grrr.

[stultiloquy]

God, being a vampire fucking sucks! Currently in the blood thirsty stage but everytime I break in somewhere they wake up, its so annoying as it really hinders your progression because everyone wants to chop your fucking head off, grrr.

If having vampirism is anything like it was in Oblivion, than it's really only a benefit if you're a stealth character.

I just contracted lycanthropy...and being a werewolf is a million times more entertaining in Skyrim than it was in Morrowind.

[Disturbed316]

Yeah I'm really not the stealthy type, which is why I really hate this vampirism :mad:

[LoDownM]

Being a Werewolf > Vampire.

1. People don't hate werewolves like they do vampires.
2. 100% disease resist.
3. It's super easy to break out of jail as one. Pick lock, transform, kill guards, leave.

[Gonzo]

I felt like when I was a werewolf I got destroyed by casters.

[El Fangel]

Havent contracted anything yet. How did it happen for each of you?

[LoDownM]

Not gonna spoil it for anyone who hasn't done it, not a huge deal I guess, but I'm sure someone would complain about it.

You get the option to be a werewolf during the Companions quest line

[Gonzo]

Havent contracted anything yet. How did it happen for each of you?

Hasn't happened to me yet, but I believe you contract vampirism from fighting vampires. You get some sort of disease and if it goes untreated will turn into full blown vampirism.

[El Fangel]

If its in spoilers I'm guessing part of a storyline. Appeciate that guys.

A huge tip for smithing is buy Breezehome in Whiterun, get Dwarven smithing and go west, kill giants and mammoth for items and leather, sell in Whiterun, buy steel, iron and dwarven metal ingots, make epic one handed swords, enchant with 12 points of frost via commenn soul gem.

They sell for 113g and cost about 120g to make.

[El Fangel]

Oh, the reason to buy Breezehome is to store smithing materials.

[LoDownM]

If its in spoilers I'm guessing part of a storyline. Appeciate that guys.

A huge tip for smithing is buy Breezehome in Whiterun, get Dwarven smithing and go west, kill giants and mammoth for items and leather, sell in Whiterun, buy steel, iron and dwarven metal ingots, make epic one handed swords, enchant with 12 points of frost via commenn soul gem.

They sell for 113g and cost about 120g to make.


The one I put in spoilers isn't a main story quest, it's a faction side quest.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Oh, the reason to buy Breezehome is to store smithing materials.

Its also the closest house to a hold's entrance. So if you go there on your horse you only have a little bit of walk if you are carrying too much weight.

[stultiloquy]

Being a Werewolf > Vampire.

1. People don't hate werewolves like they do vampires.
2. 100% disease resist.
3. It's super easy to break out of jail as one. Pick lock, transform, kill guards, leave.

I really like the fear/roar bonus too; seems like the only enemies I've encountered that don't crap their pants and run away from me when I use it are undead and dragons.

[El Fangel]

I still don't have a horse :(

[LoDownM]

Find an do the Dark Brotherhood quest line. Half way through you get Shadowmere from the leader.

[Extreme Angle]

Yeah I'm really not the stealthy type, which is why I really hate this vampirism :mad:

Use the invisibility to sneak in, use charm to stop them worrying, feed when asleep, then go do the vampire cure quest.

[stultiloquy]

I still don't have a horse :(

A horse was one of the first things I bought, but then a dragon killed it.

It picked my horse up in it's mouth and threw it to the ground; I wanted to be pissed off because it was my horse after all, but the sight of the dragon mauling my horse like that was so cool my anger quickly subsided.

[LoDownM]

Find an do the Dark Brotherhood quest line. Half way through you get Shadowmere from the leader.

Shadowmere also doubles as a companion in the world, the only time I've ever had the horse die was falling off a mountain.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Shadowmere randomly shows up for me and then isn't there at other times. He's temperamental.

[LoDownM]

Never had a problem. Fell through the world once, but reloaded and haven't had a problem since.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Found out about followers being injured the hard way today. Was walking around with Erandur to Nightcaller Temple and outside the front door we were ambushed by 3-4 frost spiders (I was level 12). Anyways I finish them off and find Erandur to be crawling across the ground barely moving a foot every 5 minutes. Thought it was a glitch for a good half hour. Did dishes while I waited. Then found out I could just "wait" 3 hours. Ignorance aside, it was a good day

I think the best advice I could give regarding taking a follower is to be sure you take one that has a healing/fast healing spell so they recover faster. Once, I didn't even touch a follower, we just ended up in this cave that was a vampire lair, unbeknownst to us, and he gets attacked by the vampire and gets all aggro and hostile on me because of the fucking vampire! :nono: Beat me till I died too, stupid fuck...

Otherwise, you should go to Farengar Fire-Secrets in the right hand side room of Dragonsreach in Whiterun. There you can buy spell tomes and other things from him as he's a mage. You can also learn how to enchant from him, but that's a whole another thing entirely. Anyway, be sure to buy the Healing Hands spell tome from him, as well as any rune spells you don't have (but be prepared for the humongous cost to your magicka for just one casting of a rune spell, it can cost anywhere from 170 some odd to over 240 magicka!!!). Go out into the world with your follower. Have fun, and if they get hurt and cannot heal quickly with spells on their own, select healing hands and heal them so they are at 100% health quicker.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Use the invisibility to sneak in, use charm to stop them worrying, feed when asleep, then go do the vampire cure quest.

That's the long (and somewhat messy/troublesome) way of doing it (get a black soul gem, kill someone (preferably in their home at night without being spotted as you'll be attacked by any guards or citizens on sight!) to fill the bsg, then take it back, and wait around until like 3AM in game and go to a designated island and stand where the guy says until he recites this incantation that cures you.

The simple way: Find plenty of Cure Disease Potions in the game (they are in abundant supply in dungeons, alchemists shops, homes, etc.). Take one and it cures all diseases, even Sanguine Vampiris.

On a side note, I think in Morrowind and Oblivion the common "scientific" name was Porphyric Hemophilia or some weird phrasing to that effect.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Hasn't happened to me yet, but I believe you contract vampirism from fighting vampires. You get some sort of disease and if it goes untreated will turn into full blown vampirism.

Not from just merely fighting a vampire. Only if you let them drain your health with their special vampiric spell thingy for an extended period of time. If you kill them quickly/stealthily enough (i.e. with sneak & bow/arrow method) without them "biting" or casting their vampire spell on you, you won't contract Sanguine Vampiris.

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://images.uesp.net/5/5b/SR-place-bards_summit_view.jpg
Bard's Leap Summit is a wooden plank at the very top of Lost Valley Redoubt (http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Lost_Valley_Redoubt).
After fighting your way through a group of Forsworn to get to the top of the ruins, you will see a walkway extending over the edge of a waterfall. If you jump off the walkway into the pool below and survive, a ghost named Azzadal (http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Azzadal) will appear. He will tell you that he attempted the jump as well, but that he obviously failed to survive it. He will then play you a song that will increase your speech skill by one point.


Note: I did this successfully with the help of using my "Whirlwind Sprint" shout right before I got to the end of the plank and jumping into the water below. Also, the person who posted this on UESP.net said you only get one speech point, but this may vary, as my speech increased by 2 points from 48 to 50.

[El Fangel]

Iron Dagger + Petty Soul Gem = Absurd Profit for Materials Used.

[Tommy Gunn]

It's dropped to £22 in most shops in the UK, but sadly that means everyone has bought it and the damn thing has sold OUT!

Went into GAME and they were pretty useless, and the staff are like fucking sharks trying to sell you shit the second you walk in the door, and FORGET about customer service, guy behind the counter hollered OI MATE to get my attention. You can address me as SIR, scoundrel.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Iron Dagger + Petty Soul Gem = Absurd Profit for Materials Used.

I take it you're talking about taking an Iron Dagger and enchanting it? Because if you're only using a petty soul gem, you're cheating yourself...you should always try if you can, to enchant using a Common Soul Gem or better quality if available to you.

[El Fangel]

Petty Soul Gems are cheap, easy to fill, in plentiful supply in Whiterun and double the worth of the dagger.

Also you realize that I'm talking 40+ Daggers right.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Petty Soul Gems are cheap, easy to fill, in plentiful supply in Whiterun and double the worth of the dagger.

Also you realize that I'm talking 40+ Daggers right.

Well now I do. Way to clarify that the first time, douchebag. :roll:

[El Fangel]

:shifty:

Yeah, if I make something for myself its Mammoth or Giant Soul.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Well that's just good common sense right there.

[El Fangel]

I think I have a complaint but I'm not sure if it is one. If Ore veins get replenished, then it is. But I hate finding one and never being able to find it again.

Found moonstone veins and went back looking but can't find anything.

[Captain of Fun]

At level 18 right now.

Haven't even broken a sweat in battle since level 14, because that's when I got the sanguin rose staff, which summons this demon guy who just annihilates my enemies. Even ones that are well above my level. I also have the dwarven bow of binding, so I never run out of filled soul gems to refill the staff's power. Fucking mint.

Question though. I'm worried I'm spreading my perks too thin. How many categories should I focus on for perks?

[Captain of Fun]

Playing an argonian specializing in archery, one-handed weapons, and conjuring.

I'd like to buff up destruction, alteration, conjuring, and smithing, but I dunno if I'll have enough because early on I blew a couple perks on skills I'm not following up on.

[El Fangel]

At the start for you, Destruction and Restoration, get the castings of those halved via perks and the other obvious mage stuff taken care of first.

You found a perfect enchanted weapon set so not much to say there besides improve the weapons so perhaps smithing.

And speech for haggling.

[Poit]

Petty Soul Gems are cheap, easy to fill, in plentiful supply in Whiterun and double the worth of the dagger.

Also you realize that I'm talking 40+ Daggers right.

Yeah, absorb health enchantments can get some nice profit.

[El Fangel]

Yep, always go with the max you can too. The more powerful it is, the more it sells for.

Also CoF, Alchemy for you to make magicka replenishnent better.

[El Fangel]

FFound this awesome Orcish armour, improved to legendary at 120 AB now with +40 Health Bonus

:cool:

[Disturbed316]

Managed to get rid of the whole vampirism stuff, went on a few more quests then contracted it again :mad: And I'm out of lock picks so I cant break in anywhere!

[LoDownM]

You can go to a shrine for any of the gods and have it cured while it's still a disease you know.

[El Fangel]

I didn't know about diseases until I looked at active effects a few days ago.

[Funky Fly]

Level 32 rn. Just made some dragon heavy armour and shield and buffed them up to legendary. Off to grab more dragon bounties and complete the set. Last point on the tree for me is daedric armour. I hit dragon smithing first by going up the light armour side for all the weapons. Sadly the light versions of the dragon armour and shield looks more badass than the heavy versions, but the heavy gauntlets, boots and helm look better.

[Sepholio]

Im level 57 right now and have an ass ton of stuff to do still. This game is freaking huge.

Also, I thought the Elder Dragons were gonna be the tough ones when I saw one.....yeah right. The one after that is a bitch to fight.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Alduin (the first time) was the hardest fight I had in the game. So, I bought a mercenary magician to help.

[Tommy Gunn]

Today's my last day at Uni for the semester, and amazon just e-mailed me letting me now Skyrim should arrive tomorrow. Merry xmas, me!

[El Fangel]

I bought a horse finally. went east of Whiterun and encountered a group of 3 giants and a Mammoth who proceeded to kill my fucking horse.

I took an unhealthy amount of pleasure killing each of them.

[DrA]

Forgot that I clicked into a video game thread and for a split moment thought that Fallen Angel actually bought a horse.

[The Jayman]

would it actually surprise you if he did?

[El Fangel]

Is there anything on the compass that shows where your horse is located?

[Requiem]

No, but he will usually stay where you leave him. Also, when you fast travel, he comes with you.

[El Fangel]

One of the Giants started chasing him while I was fighting the other two and the mammoth.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Shadowmere is the best horse and great at kicking Dragon's asses.

[James Diesel]

He's always been the best horse. Granted, this is only his second appearance. I like how the spirit of Lucien Lachance comments on Shadowmere when both are present

[LoDownM]

She* apparently.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Finally met M'aig the Liar. Guy is fucking hilarious.

[Captain of Fun]

2 questions

Where can I sell jewelry? I've had these stupid expensive necklaces for fucking ever because no one will buy them.

How do I get married?

[Requiem]

The quest "Night to Remember" was pretty great.

[RoXer]

How do I get married?

no idea

[Captain of Fun]

Yeah it is, and the staff it gives you is beastly. At least at my early level.

[Requiem]

You have to get some special necklace and wear it (and maybe wear nice clothes) and talk to a woman.

Dunno the details but that's the gist of it.

[El Fangel]

2 questions

Where can I sell jewelry? I've had these stupid expensive necklaces for fucking ever because no one will buy them.

How do I get married?

Whiterun, from Breezehome go up the road away from the Blacksmith, turn right some dude need Berethar or something buys gems and necklaces. If its magic, try the mage in Dragonreach.

Also, something I have noticed is there is isn't a whole lot of variety of enemies is there.

Giants, Mammoths, Sabre Cats, Bears, Dreugs, Ice/Fire Mages, Necromancers, Bandits, Skreevers, Wolves, Crabs, Spiders, Trolls, Skeletons, Ghosts and Dragons.

Fairly sure I haven't missed many if any. If you have a bad character that kills regular people, then of course there is more.

The game is huge and great to explore but kinda wish there were different types of things to fight. I find I kill near everything far too easy now and the difficulty is near max.

[Captain of Fun]

I've seen a bunch more enemies that you forgot on the loading screen. Dwarven mechs, those mole people, dragon priests, giant insects(not spiders)

[Captain of Fun]

Also, when I go to that dude in whiterun, them necklaces don't show up in my sell options.

[LoDownM]

To get married. You gotta find an Amulet of Mara first(priest at the Temple of Mara sells it). After that you have to wear it and talk to someone you've done a quest for, basically someone that doesn't hate your guts. It's a quest after someone agrees, so the rest is self explanatory.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I did the 15 Deadric Quests but I didn't get achievments what gives?

[James Diesel]

Also, when I go to that dude in whiterun, them necklaces don't show up in my sell options.

Means they're stolen. Can't sell stolen goods to normal merchants. (Unless your speech is perked out and you have invested into them.) That or he doesn't buy that category but if he does buy that category, refer to the first 2 sentences

[James Diesel]

I did the 15 Deadric Quests but I didn't get achievments what gives?

You have to get the 15 Daedric artifacts. I fucked up on getting the Skull of Corruption and the guy destroyed it so I had to get both the Hircine Ring and the Savior's Hide through a bug.

You should have on you
Mace of Molag Bol
Skull of Corruption (Kill the guy)
Wabbajack
Hircine Ring/Savior's Hide
Ebony Blade
Dawnbreaker
Mehrune's Razor
Azura's Star/Black Star
Oghma Infinium (Goes away after use)
Ebony Mail
Masque of Clavical Vile (Do not kill the dog)
Ring of Namira
Sanguine Rose
Volendrung
Spellbreaker

The Skeleton Key does not count as a Daedric artifact for the achievement

[El Fangel]

Those necklaces I believe can be sold to a merchant in Riften that peddles in stolen goods.

Not complain about lack of monsters mind, seems there is not a lot of variety that aren't in caves.

[James Diesel]

If you're part of the Thieves Guild you can sell them there as well

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I also sold my thieves guild attire to the first fence and now she won't update it. Bleh you can fail too easily in this game.

[James Diesel]

Standard, Nightingale, or Guild Master?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Standard.

[James Diesel]

You should be able to buy it again

[DAMN iNATOR]

Finally met M'aig the Liar. Guy is fucking hilarious.

Just so ya know, for future reference it's M'aiq. He is by far one of the craziest people you'll run across, as well as (suprisingly, since his role is so minor) one of the longest running characters as he's been in Morrowind and Oblivion as well.

[The Phenom]

I finally got to play this game. This game is awesome. There is so much to do in this game it's not even funny. Aldiun is tough as hell.

[Captain of Fun]

Damn it, I didn't know your housecarl could die. Was considering marrying that chick. Not to mention she was carrying a ton of loot which I had to abandon.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I found out you could marry the housecarl after I had already married the chick from that trader store with the weird brother.

She died in the battle against the Stormcloaks. Didn't bother to reload and do it over. It felt sort of more epic when I killed Urlrich and then gave him a makeshift Pedigree dragging his body up and down with force. That was awesome.

[D Mac]

I'm a Stormcloak and I shall see you hanged for your treachery!

[James Diesel]

FOR THE EMPIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DAMN iNATOR]

Damn it, I didn't know your housecarl could die. Was considering marrying that chick. Not to mention she was carrying a ton of loot which I had to abandon.

If you ask enough after joining them, the Dark Brotherhood eventually gives you a side contract that involves the housecarl of Falkreath. I'd also like to know if anyone knows if killing the housecarl of a hold (not the steward) has any affect on the Thane of (whatever hold) quest for that area, as all I've gotten from attempting the Falkreath one after having offed Helvard for the Dark Brotherhood are the same "The Jarl has put out a bounty on the dragon in Ancient's Ascent" 3 times, and one of the times was from talking to the barkeeper in town instead of the steward. So frustrated with this right now.

[OssMan]

I played it for a few hours. Pretty fun. Will not buy, might buy in like 3 years. Fun to burn the people with fire in your left hand.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Love the rune spells...but they use up too much damned magicka at once. :(

[El Fangel]

My character was naked, with no potions, no weapons and no armour because I left it all at home in Whiterun while I went to Winterhold seeking a smelter.

A dragon attacked at the point in time. I hid like a naked little coward.

[Hanso Amore]

Damn it, I didn't know your housecarl could die. Was considering marrying that chick. Not to mention she was carrying a ton of loot which I had to abandon.

I had Vilkas from the companions in a Full Set of Legendary Ebony Armor, with a Glass Two handed sword with a fire enchantment.

Did a Stormcloak Quest to take a fort, and I cannot fucking find him now. He must be dead, but I cannot find his body :(

[LoDownM]

He didn't show up when you fast traveled somewhere? I've had companions disappear like that before, and they usually showed up when I fast travel.

[El Fangel]

Started a new file the other day, battlemage high elve.

Killed two giants before Level 3.

[D Mac]

I had Vilkas from the companions in a Full Set of Legendary Ebony Armor, with a Glass Two handed sword with a fire enchantment.

Did a Stormcloak Quest to take a fort, and I cannot fucking find him now. He must be dead, but I cannot find his body :(

Did you tell him to wait somewhere? I lost one of mine and had to wait up to 3 days and it said they got tired of waiting and went home.

[Crimson]

Ok how do you have someone follow you around and aid you?

[El Fangel]

Find them and buy their services. Check the inn in Whiterun, should be a guy there.

[James Diesel]

Anyone you have a brawl with at an inn will usually become a follower. There are several followers for hire, (soonest one is at the weapons shop in front of you at the entrance to Whiterun)

[Captain of Fun]

My character was naked, with no potions, no weapons and no armour because I left it all at home in Whiterun while I went to Winterhold seeking a smelter.

A dragon attacked at the point in time. I hid like a naked little coward.


Why would you do this?

[El Fangel]

Its difficult to move with 320+ pounds of smithing materials on top of armor and potions

[Captain of Fun]

So why didn't you fast travel?

[El Fangel]

...I did.

[Captain of Fun]

Well, I would of slapped that dragon in it's stupid face with my nutsac.

Instant one-hit kill. Harden up, princess.

[El Fangel]

I stupidly had not saved in awhile. :(

I was going to try with a dagger which was all so had for weaponry.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

doesnt it auto save after awhile?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ok how do you have someone follow you around and aid you?

Some people will follow you after you complete a task for them. Later on there is a weapon that draws powers when you kill those people betraying them. So, its good to try to keep them alive until then.

[El Fangel]

doesnt it auto save after awhile?

Yes, but I had no idea how long ago that was and I had done a lot I didn't want to do again.

[Londoner]

Got this today surprisingly, forgot though that you can't use a verification code twice which sucks.

edit: Still downloading, incredibly slow!

[Londoner]

Well this is fucking shit so far tbh. Start seems to drag on and on, and for some reason my settings are stuck on master level when i was just searching to see how many levels there were, now can't fucking change it. :mad:(even started a new game to see if it changed back to the beginner level but no luck, still stuck) Also my computer doesn't seem to be able to handle the speed very well even though there should be nothing wrong with it. Oh well.

edit: Fixed the level problem, gameplay seems abit better on a different resolution but needs to be better. Not sure if its just my computer though.

[Captain of Fun]

lol saw 4 skeletons chasing a rabbit. Fantastic.

[Kris P Lettus]

This game is immense.. Around level 25 but even though I've been diligent, I'm pretty sure I've missed alot.. Need to buy the book with some of this x-mas loot and replay it..

[Crimson]

Ugh I was clearing out skullcave, I killed every badguy. Then I couldnt for the life of me find my way out..thenn I got stuck inbetween 2 rocks and couldnt jump out or anything!

Finally I just shut it off..hopefully im not in the exact same spot ie stuck in the cave

[Kris P Lettus]

Ugh I was clearing out skullcave, I killed every badguy. Then I couldnt for the life of me find my way out..thenn I got stuck inbetween 2 rocks and couldnt jump out or anything!

Finally I just shut it off..hopefully im not in the exact same spot ie stuck in the cave

http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88865&highlight=shivering

[Crimson]

So am I fucked or are you insinuating I use a spell

[Kris P Lettus]

Just saying I've been in a similar situation to that..

You prolly got to go back to a previous save.. I just lucked out when it happened to me cause you get this teleportation spell in the Shivering Isles.. Haven't seen anything like that in Skyrim..

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

it autosaves everytime you enter a building so you should be ok unless you disabled autosave,

[James Diesel]

Whenever I've gotten stuck, I usually spend a good 5-10 minutes trying every single degree of movement to get out. If all fails, just revert to my last autosave considering I let mine save on all possibilities.(Wait, Rest, 15 min menu)

[Crimson]

Yea its pretty weird..I remember being ambushed by skeletons and I panicked and fell down a little cliff inside the cave. I checked every square inch, crawling and jumping against every wall before I got stuck inbetween rocks. Ah well ..wont mind doing that mission again

[Captain of Fun]

God I love using unrelenting force, and just flinging guys off of 5 story ledges.

[Kris P Lettus]

God I love using unrelenting force, and just flinging guys off of 5 story ledges.

Yes

Not big into the magic aspects of these games but the Dragon Shouts are amazing.. Specially that one..

I like throwing bears off of mountains..

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I've been playing a fair bit but I'm not sure I even enjoy the actual gameplay that much...just getting stuff done, finding stuff, unlocking things. The combat is absolutely woeful, I really hoped they would have improved it from Oblivion, better than adding a few finishing moves anyway. At least bring in an element of timing and weight to the proceedings. Combat is always such a massive letdown in Bethesda games.

I have Conjuration levelled up to 100 and have Illia following me armed with several staffs I've passed on to her (Chain Lightning, Fireball, Dread Zombie and the Sanguine Rose) so most battles end pretty quickly when I summon a Dremora Lord.

[DAMN iNATOR]

If I figured out the leveling up correctly, if all the calculations I did, which I won't go into to much detail about, except for figuring that every 20 skill level improvements (any 1 or combination of any and/or all skills) = 1 character level, that should mean max level is 79.

Can anyone confirm this?

[DAMN iNATOR]

I've been playing a fair bit but I'm not sure I even enjoy the actual gameplay that much...just getting stuff done, finding stuff, unlocking things. The combat is absolutely woeful, I really hoped they would have improved it from Oblivion, better than adding a few finishing moves anyway. At least bring in an element of timing and weight to the proceedings. Combat is always such a massive letdown in Bethesda games.

I have Conjuration levelled up to 100 and have Illia following me armed with several staffs I've passed on to her (Chain Lightning, Fireball, Dread Zombie and the Sanguine Rose) so most battles end pretty quickly when I summon a Dremora Lord.

Oh, boo-fucking-hoo! Why don't you count holes in your ceiling if you're so anti-fun?

[Funky Fly]

If I figured out the leveling up correctly, if all the calculations I did, which I won't go into to much detail about, except for figuring that every 20 skill level improvements (any 1 or combination of any and/or all skills) = 1 character level, that should mean max level is 79.

Can anyone confirm this?

It's 81 apparently; some guy glitched his way there on youtube or some shit. This is third hand info tho.

[James Diesel]

I've seen several 81's so I'm gonna say 81

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Happy just to have hit 50 to get the achievement. I've got a few more achievements to do but I screwed up on the Oblivion Walker and really don't want to walk around to all the stones.

I might start over to do the Deadric quests over. Really wish there was a mission-do-over thing. It's pretty weird to fail something in a game in this day and age and not be able to fix it. It seems like a pretty ancient concept.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think it's as patched as it will get dude unless you're on a PS3. Simply run away from the trolls.

[James Diesel]

Happy just to have hit 50 to get the achievement. I've got a few more achievements to do but I screwed up on the Oblivion Walker and really don't want to walk around to all the stones.

I might start over to do the Deadric quests over. Really wish there was a mission-do-over thing. It's pretty weird to fail something in a game in this day and age and not be able to fix it. It seems like a pretty ancient concept.

Did you try the Hircine Ring/Savior's Hide bug or has that ship sailed?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I already did all the quests just was too nice and didnt kill that guy in the library. The achievement should have been just to complete the quests. Getting the objects is overkill.

[James Diesel]

Yea luckily the first one I fucked up was killing that guy, so the bug helped even it out. Look it up FFR, even if you just want both of them

[LoDownM]

I'm pretty sure the achievement carries over from save to save. The quest to get Mehrunes Dagger was bugged for my sister, so she loaded up another save and got the achievement before she got all the artifacts.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Oh, boo-fucking-hoo! Why don't you count holes in your ceiling if you're so anti-fun?

I'm criticising the game, matey, that's what the thread is for. I'm heartily pro-fun which is why I'd like the combat to be a little more nuanced than just twatting each other and hoping you have enough potions to win. For a game with such a teeming world, I feel like sloppy aspects of gameplay let down all that hard work, it's unsatisfying.

Stealthing around is good but obviously that is better in Fallout since you can pop someone's head from miles away with a sniper rifle.

[Kris P Lettus]

Stealthing around is good but obviously that is better in Fallout since you can pop someone's head from miles away with a sniper rifle.

:y:

[El Fangel]

I agree with ECG, the combat is a bit underwhelming especially for a melee one on one. It's essentially.

Whack
Whack
Whack
Apply Poison
Whack
Whack
Drink Healing Potions
Whack

Fighting multiple enemies

Whack
Whack
Run
Heal
Pot Shot
Pot Shot
Repeat

The world itself is gorgeous but the combat leaves a lot to be desired.

And Stealthing in this as well is a bit meh, A arrow to the head with overdraw should deal 4x damage not 2x.

[Requiem]

Really, I don't see how the combat could have been different in a system that has skills that determine whether you succeed at a lot of things combat related. If they made it more contact based, I think it would have been too stiff and would have nullified a lot of the perks/skills.

Also, there are skills that increase the damage you do with your bow FA. Pretty sure there is one that makes it do x3 when stealthed.

[Requiem]

I find it to be fun. A well placed shield bash can mean a lot, and conserving stamina is a must (at my level, where I don't have fuck all stamina). Strong attack to break an enemy's guard, followed by a flurry of attacks.. a shout thrown in there maybe to catch the group on fire. Hell, even just starting off the fight with an arrow straight to the face before pulling out your weapons and going at it.

Dunno.. I mean yeah the combat is simple and there are only a couple things you can do with each weapon (which are different depending on what class of weapon it is), but there has always been a lot of variation in my fights. I've never been bored hacking away at someone, because you're only limited by how YOU play out the battle. Be more creative if you're bored. Find new ways to kill people.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

It's not boring, the variety is great, it's just not implemented very well. Combat lets the game down badly in my opinion. Aggroing bystanders or companions during combat is an absolute fucking nuisance too, it makes powerful spells problematic to use. I suppose its probably in contrast to playing Dark Souls for me where the combat is excellent.

Anyway, I usually conjure a Dremora Lord so most battles don't last very long. Ilia can conjure Dremora Lords with the Sanguine Rose too so it's normally overkill.

[El Fangel]

I went with the one-handed (waraxe) lineage in skills. I have two stamina based attacks and both of them are insanely devastating. One deals double critical damage and the other deals 1.5 I believe with a chance to decapitate.

Just seems like anything I match up against sans Giants, Mammoths and Dragons last 1-2 hits. I have the difficultly maxed as well and it doesn't make much difference.

I know there isn't much they could do with a skill based game like this in regards to combat. Just feels like its healing and tapping the right trigger alot. Lack of strategy is you will.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They seemed to make the game easier than Oblivion to get a bigger audience. In Oblivion the creatures leveled up with you. So even though you got better the creatures got better too.

So actually the easiest way to beat the game was to just to the main quest at the start. It's too bad they couldn't find a middle ground.

[Captain of Fun]

They seemed to make the game easier than Oblivion to get a bigger audience. In Oblivion the creatures leveled up with you. So even though you got better the creatures got better too.

So actually the easiest way to beat the game was to just to the main quest at the start. It's too bad they couldn't find a middle ground.


From what I understand, people complained about the whole monsters leveling up with you thing.

I like the way it is now. Feels very satisfying to utterly butcher an enemy you ran away from like a little girl in the beginning of the game.

[El Fangel]

From what I understand, people complained about the whole monsters leveling up with you thing.

I like the way it is now. Feels very satisfying to utterly butcher an enemy you ran away from like a little girl in the beginning of the game.

The difference between level 1 and level 35, is getting mauled by a bear and stabbing it to death with a dagger while naked.