NFL 2011 Off Season Thread

[Hanso Amore]

what's the betting Belichick has Haynesworth playing like it's 2008 in no time

I am hoping he acts like his normal self. I want to see how Belichek handles him.

[Battlekat]

I am hoping he acts like his normal self. I want to see how Belichek handles him.

Agreed, the guy is a total moron and I fully expect his off the field nonsense to continue.

[FearedSanctity]

Kolb thing is finally fucking over. Way to overspend on one mediocre looking QB Arizona when you could've had another for a lot less

[Anybody Thrilla]

The Bengals sign Bruce Gradkowski to the delight of absolutely no one.

[Battlekat]

The Bengals sign Bruce Gradkowski to the delight of absolutely no one.

Couldn't possibly be worse than that other Palmer or a rookie on a team that's basically imploding.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Just wait. It'll turn out worse. Somehow.

[Emperor Smeat]

At least the Pats didn't give up too much for Haynesworth other than a 5th round pick in 2013. I guess he praised Belichick and the organization in an interview like last year, so maybe he'll actually step it up this year instead of being a lazy bastard like he was on the Redskins.

A part of his laziness was him not wanting to adjust from a 4-3 system in Tennessee to a 3-4 system with Shannahan and it didn't help that Shannahan was unwilling to adjust his defense to take advantage of Haynesworth talent.

Belichick can find a way to make Haynesworth work in any defensive system or even his current system without having any problems. Of course Haynesworth needs to work on his attitude problem since Belichick is even more stricter than his last couple of defense/head coaches.

[RoXer]

AND A 2ND ROUNDER?!?!?!?!

[RoXer]

It's not bad enough to destroy the possibility of having two young, top tier, excellent cornerbacks to build a defense around, YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP OUR FUTURE'S FUTURE AS WELL?!?!?

Kolb better become a god damned hall of famer

[RoXer]

Can I veto the trade? What can I do as a fan here?

[Hanso Amore]

BILLS BIG MOVE

BRAD FUCKING SMITH

4 YEARS 15 MILLION DOLLARS

FOR A FUCKING GIMMICK BENCH PLAYER

SHOOT MY FUCKING EYES OUT NOW

[McLegend]

I like that trade.

[RoXer]

every Eagle fan should

[FearedSanctity]

RoXer, how do you feel knowing you could've had Orton for a 3rd?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Chad Johnson just got traded to the Patriots. Hooray

[Hanso Amore]

Jesus....Fucking A.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mathia Kiwanuka re-signs. Yesssss.</font>

[ClockShot]

Chad Johnson just got traded to the Patriots. Hooray

I ain't the biggest fan of Belichick or the Golden Boy, but I hope they put him in his place the minute he steps foot into Foxboro.

[RP]

pretty sure the Patriots are jumping the shark right now.

[CSL]

1300 yds, 15 TDs

[DrA]

Great moves by the Patriots. They know what they're doing.

[weather vane]

BUSH

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Madison Hedgecock released. Apparently he had been playing with Degenerative Disc Disease. Damn.

I'd love to see them go after Vonta Leach...although I've heard great things about the UDFA Henry Hynoski that they picked up.</font>

[Aguakate]

Tom Brady and Chad Johnson are going to stir it up...great move by New England.

[McLegend]

Vince Young possibly to the Eagles.

[FearedSanctity]

Please do it, just to spite the Dolphins for making me deal with the Orton era any longer than I've already had to :mad:

[Skippord]

seriously just offer a 3rd round pick you assholes

[RP]

I can't wait to see all the Kyle Orton party pics on the internet when he goes to Miami.

[Boomer]

Ray Edwards to the Falcons has got me pretty excited. The telegraphed the move after they didn't pick a DE in the draft until the 7th round, but it seems we got him for a decent price. (5 years/30 mil)

[Evil Vito]

If the Giants can get a first rounder for Osi I think they should pull the trigger. Sick of his crybaby act every year.

[Droford]

If the Giants can get a first rounder for Osi I think they should pull the trigger. Sick of his crybaby act every year.
Rumor is to the Ravens but they arent giving up a first rounder for him if its true..

[Ermaximus]

Holy fucking lord. Finally some defensive help to Jacksonville. Let's just hope that Session, Posluzny, and Landry actually make an impact and aren't completely worthless signings like the Jags seem to often get.

[Ermaximus]

Also, who the fuck is Matt Turk?

[Nervous Ferret]

Matt Turk rules

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently the Jets don't have a plan B in case Asomugha doesn't sign with them. I think Dallas is the only big name team going after him in terms of willing to spend a lot to get him.

The team is asking everyone except Holmes to wait until they get Asomugha before even considering other players and most would need to take a big pay cut to stay. They are not even working out deals with other free agents until the Asomugha situation has an answer.

They lost Brad Smith to the Bills since he didn't want to waste the small window for free agency.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/columns/story?columnist=cimini_rich&id=6813324

[FearedSanctity]

Jets pulled out of running for Nnamdi, apparently fist pumping seen at Cowboys HQ

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Asomugha to the Eagles :|

Asomugha. DRC. Samuel.

No point in even throwing the ball against the Eagles.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

Where the fuck did Philly come from? Where they ever even mentioned during the whole process?

[McLegend]

BAM

[FearedSanctity]

Sproles and Nnamdi out of not just the West but the conference too? Best offseason ever

Von Miller has also picked off Orton twice. Looking good

[DaveWadding]

Wow, DRC is a nickel corner.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Rumors already flying that Samuel is going to the Jets.</font>

[Innovator]

Asomugha to the Eagles :|

Asomugha. DRC. Samuel.

No point in even throwing the ball against the Eagles.
Well...fuck.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants sign Steve Weatherford. Yessssssssssss fuck you Dodge.</font>

[Gonzo]

What would you guys rather have? A stud defensive end or a shutdown corner? Why? Inspired by an ESPN poll I saw this morning.

[Innovator]

This is the only to comfort me right now.

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[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>Rumors already flying that Samuel is going to the Jets.</font>

Yeah there is the rumor that the reason Samuel no showed for camp today was due to the team informing him of the trade and the possibility of letting him go instead of giving him a new contract.

I've heard the Jets are interested in Chris Carr as their 2nd choice for CB although that might have been in case they couldn't find anyone assuming no other big name was left or Cromartie left the team.

[Gonzo]

This is the only to comfort me right now.

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That was the first Superbowl I saw the Giants win. Fucking love it. There really is no greater joy as a fan than your favorite team winning it all.

[McLegend]

Eagles also sign Donald Lee and Johnnie Lee Higgins to 1 year deals.

[Skippord]

Sproles and Nnamdi out of not just the West but the conference too? Best offseason ever

Von Miller has also picked off Orton twice. Looking good
so the Broncos were practicing 3rd down and 4th quarter situations?

[FearedSanctity]

3rd down, 4th quarter AND in the red zone drill

[Team Sheep]

Wow didn't see Asomugha to the Eagles. Crazy. Pretty gutted but oh well. It was a bit greedy.

[Crimson]

What would you guys rather have? A stud defensive end or a shutdown corner? Why? Inspired by an ESPN poll I saw this morning.

A stud D-end

[SammyG]

SIMS WALKER! Love the moves the Rams are making!

[Aguakate]

Why IS it Carson Palmer prefers retiring rather than play with Cincinnati? What'd I miss?

[SammyG]

The fact that Cincy sucks balls and he's way too good of a QB to be stuck there?

[Innovator]

He went catatonic having to deal with TO and Ochocinco.

[Aguakate]

Why sign a contract extension then?

[Gonzo]

Fucking NFC East is ridiculous.

[McLegend]

Did anyone see Michael Irvin go insane on NFL network today with Rich Eisen?

Is he back on drugs?

[Aguakate]

Has he ever been off?

[Requiem]

Can't believe the Colts let Clint Session go to the Jags. But on a good note, Manning said he is willing to take less money if it gets the Colts the key players they need.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82112f59/article/manning-willing-to-take-less-money-to-do-deal-assist-colts?module=HP11_headline_stack

[ClockShot]

Eagles sign Vince Young. Is he really going to play second fiddle to Michael Vick, or does he think he can get a starting job?

I see the Broncos signed Willis McGahee. Whatever.

[Innovator]

God I can't wait for Vick to get hurt and Vince Young has to head the Eagles.

[Evil Vito]

That was the first Superbowl I saw the Giants win. Fucking love it. There really is no greater joy as a fan than your favorite team winning it all.

<font color=goldenrod>I've got the DVD that has all 4 playoff games on it. I might give them all a watch as a build-up to the season. Good times.

Hate that so many key players from that team are now gone.</font> :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Peyton gets a 5 year, $90 million deal.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Im pretty happy right now.. Lost Bush but picked up a stud replacement who cwn be plugged right in..

Dunno whats gonna happen with all our RBs though..

Thomas
Ingram
Sproles
Ivory
Betts
Jones
Hamilton
Wynn

I see us keeping PT, Sproles, Ingram, and Ivory but some teqm is gonna get a steal with a guy like ahamilton.. he is a beast on special teams and would have been our 3rd down pounder last year until his ACL injury..

I just hope we keep Ivory..

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, they will prolly cut Heath Evans..

:(

[SammyG]

omg omg omg more signings. Quentin Mikell, Mike Sims Walker, Harvey Dahl, Zac Diles, Justin Bannan, Al Harris (meh), and we might be getting Ronnie Brown too.. KEEP EM COMINNNN, so excited about football.

[Innovator]

Osi to report to camp, good he finally came to.

[James Steele]

Jerry Jones...wake the fuck up.

[Innovator]

Cowboys are quiet, besides parting ways with Roy Williams.

HE AINT GONNA PLAY.

[Emperor Smeat]

Fat Albert was a no show at Pats camp today with everyone assuming he failed a conditioning test while another rumor is Haynesworth is currently restructuring his contract similar to Chad Johnson.

Burress looks like he might be picking the Steelers over the Giants although ESPN is saying the Jets are currently interested in him.

I'd assume the plan with Young and Vick for the Eagles is to use Young for QB rushes plays and keep Vick for the passing because Vick has a better arm than Young. It could also save Vick's legs for later in the season or playoffs so he can be used in QB rushes.

Broncos are rumored to only be giving Tebow a 1-year window of opportunity as a starter and if it fails, they could trade/release him and go after Luck in the next draft if they are that bad. Right now the Bengals almost seemed locked for 1st pick with all the dumb moves they've made.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Eagles sign Cullen Jenkins.

Wake the fuck up, rest of the NFL.</font>

[Skippord]

Philadelphia's Purple Drank market just exploded

[Kris P Lettus]

It's kinda weird that the Phins have two previos Hiesman winning first round pick RBs who are former Saints..

I think our new hiesman winning first round pick RB will work out better..

[Nark Order]

Plaxico meeting with the 49ers. Most likely to get more money with toner teams by making them think he could sign. I don't suspect him to go to SF, but Crabtree is injured...

[Requiem]

No confirmation on if the Colts can afford Mathis yet. I know they'll definitely sign Reggie Wayne.

Honestly think if the Colts were so adamant about saving money and having to make tough decisions, they should have only made one tough decision and traded Freeny, and KEPT Clint Session, Kelvin Hayden, and Robert Mathis.

If Mathis stays of course, I'll be happy. But Session is a beast, and Hayden hasn't let us down. Freeney just makes too much to be worth more than those three. His last deal was over 70million. Mathis has been more productive in recent years, and his career stats are almost as impressive, with a hundred more tackles and only 20 less sacks.

[RP]

Mathis and Wayne are not FA's.

The Colts always let there linebackers go. Mike Peterson, Marcus Washington, David Thorton and now Sessions. And some dumb team always over pays for those guys and then quickly finds out that those guys only work in the Colts system.

Sessions wasnt even that great.

[RP]

Trade Freeney?

Are you high?

[RP]

Freeny don't even have to put stats up to change the game. Robert Mathis wouldn't be worth anything with out him. He draws double and triple teams every single play. He's a top five defensive player in the league.

[Requiem]

We're talking about 3 players vs 1. I am not at all saying Freeney isn't an extremely useful player. But Mathis, Sessions, and Hayden. Other than Mathis, those were some pretty cheap contracts to just give up, given how productive the players are. We're talking about the money to success ratio here. Freeney was once the highest paid defensive player in the league, which is a lot of hype to live up to.

Hayden's been extremely productive every season since he sealed the Super Bowl win, even while missing games. When he plays, he's proven his usefulness.

Sessions put up an incredible 09 season, and I really doubt his injury last season was a career changer. He has huge potential, and when he was on the field, he was productive.

You can say Mathis wouldn't be anything without Freeney, but Freeney wouldn't be nearly as successful without someone like Mathis playing the opposite side. When Freeney is getting shut down, Mathis is the one making the plays. I'm sure Mathis has learned a lot from the master, but watching him play is equally as impressive. If Mathis was the number one DE and the team took a slightly different approach to the D, there's no telling how different things could be. They need to change some kind of dynamic in their defense if they want it to be more successful, and if there's one thing I've noticed about Colts defense, it's that they have immense trouble shutting down the run game, even with the duo. I cringed every time a Back slipped right through the middle and took off. And even then, Mathis is the one making the tackles when offenses go the opposite direction due to Freeney being there.

Yeah it's important to put pressure on the QB, but Freeney has been slowly tapering off these past few seasons. Just don't think he's worth such a huge contract when Mathis gets less than half that.

And Wayne and Mathis' contracts are both running out. There's no way they'll let Wayne go, but if it comes down to money, Mathis might go as he has a bonus coming up and the Colts are looking to save money. Colts could get a hell of a deal for someone like Freeney. A deal that could help them a lot in the next 5 seasons they've got Manning, especially if they still had those 3 other players.

[Requiem]

Also, claiming a player wont work in another team's setup is just guess-work at best. It's even worse that we let him go to the Jags, who actually put up a fight last season. Hayden was replaced by a rookie. There's a lot of new blood going to the Colts, which is great if they end up being good. But they're losing a lot of proven players in the process.

[RP]

Freeney did pretty good before Mathis came to the team. Hayden has been injured most of the last three years. Clint Sessions couldn't fight off a block if his life depended on it. And Hayden is not being replaced by a rookie. I wouldn't be suprised if the Colts went after cromartie, but if not, its gunna be Lacey

[Requiem]

Freeney was only there a year before Mathis came and his best seasons were his first 4. He fell off big in the middle, and only picked it up 'somewhat' in recent years. They signed some rookie CB already after releasing Hayden. Jerraud Powers and Lacey would be an alright combo, but they are still both relatively new and they are still unproven in the long term. They are pretty good though. They're not household names, and they're not really scary to other teams. (not saying Hayden was either really)

Colts would do good to go after Cromartie, and he has said he would be interested in playing for them. But I don't know how good of a fit he would be, as the Colts typically don't deal with 'character issues'. Cromartie could clash with them.

Anyways, I'm just going off all the money compromises the Colts are having to make. Lot of new blood coming in, and I'm sure a lot of changes going on with all the new staff and staff changes going on the past couple years. Lot of new faces on the team in all areas.

[Ermaximus]

SIMS WALKER! Love the moves the Rams are making!

If he can stay healthy, then it's a good move.

Welcome to Jacksonville Mr. Coleman. Loving all these defensive moves the Jags are making, but it'd be nice if they snagged some fucking WR's to throw to as well! Mike Thomas and Mercedes Lewis won't cut it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Burress to the Jets.

God damn it. Watching the clips of him from the Super Bowl season made me want him back - even though I doubt he'll be the same player he once was.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Seahawks cut Lofa Tatupu.

I really, really, REALLY would love for the Giants to sign him. But he asked to be cut because he didn't want to take a pay cut when he was already scheduled to make $4 million. Giants are already in cap hell and they still haven't re-signed Boss or Bradshaw. They might not have re-signed Smith either although I've seen conflicting rumors. Either way, looking more and more like the Giants aren't making any moves and that they will be rolling with essentially the same team that blew it 2 years running.

In before the Eagles sign Tatupu.</font>

[Innovator]

I'm not looking forward to this season, at all. I've got Vitoitis.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm looking forward to the season. Even if your teams sucks, there's just nothing like football on NFL Sundays.

But yeah, this is the first year since like 2003 where I don't feel particularly good about the Giants' chances going in. When the best thing you have to look forward to is that the team apparently signed a "killer" UDFA class - you know it's been a slow offseason.</font>

[Nark Order]

The Eagles need to calm the fuck down.

[RP]

<font color=goldenrod>Seahawks cut Lofa Tatupu.

I really, really, REALLY would love for the Giants to sign him. But he asked to be cut because he didn't want to take a pay cut when he was already scheduled to make $4 million. Giants are already in cap hell and they still haven't re-signed Boss or Bradshaw. They might not have re-signed Smith either although I've seen conflicting rumors. Either way, looking more and more like the Giants aren't making any moves and that they will be rolling with essentially the same team that blew it 2 years running.

In before the Eagles sign Tatupu.</font>

He would be perfect for the Colts but I dunno if they can pay him

[Innovator]

From everything I've read, sounds like Eli wanted no part in Plax coming back.

So much for Plaxinno.

[Crimson]

Eagles have done a masterful job it looks like. Great for them ,hope they fall apart and it blows up in their face.

But it looks like it's all up to Vick they seem to have everything in place.

Cowboys still need to sign a godamn safety :rant:

[Crimson]

And if Spencer doesn't step up we will have so many holes on defense it'll be like swiss cheese. DE, S, CB, Rush-OLB..

[Nervous Ferret]

Really love the Jets approach the last few years of being as obnoxious as possible

[ClockShot]

Broncos are rumored to only be giving Tebow a 1-year window of opportunity as a starter and if it fails, they could trade/release him and go after Luck in the next draft if they are that bad. Right now the Bengals almost seemed locked for 1st pick with all the dumb moves they've made.


This I agree with.

Todd Heap to the Cards. Kolb got a couple nice targets to work with this season.

[RoXer]

Todd Heap to the Cards.

A move I was hoping they would make but didn't think they would.

A little bit of faith restored

[Emperor Smeat]

From everything I've read, sounds like Eli wanted no part in Plax coming back.

So much for Plaxinno.

Dumb move considering the main reason Eli has a ring is due to the game winning catch by Plax (and the Tyree catch before and the defense being amazing).

I could see if previously Plax had been trashing the team or talking bad about Eli but I don't remember him ever saying anything bad about his QB.

[OssMan]

Heap of shit

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Cardinals get: DE Vonnie Holliday and a conditional draft pick

Redskins get: RB Tim Hightower</font>

[DaveWadding]

you have that backwards. The Cards get the pick.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah my bad.

Dumb trade either way though. The Skins already have a bunch of RBs and I have zero faith in Beanie Wells.</font>

[Gonzo]

Dumb move considering the main reason Eli has a ring is due to the game winning catch by Plax (and the Tyree catch before and the defense being amazing).

I could see if previously Plax had been trashing the team or talking bad about Eli but I don't remember him ever saying anything bad about his QB.

Any WR could have made the play Plax made when the Giants won the Superbowl. Plaxico was practically non-existent that game. If we're talking about the NFC Championship game then that's a whole different story.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I don't think it's a big deal that Eli didn't go out of his way to try and get Plax. It just means he's content with the receivers they have now. I'm sure he would have been happy to have him back, but it's just not a huge deal.

I tend to agree. He'd have been a nice end zone threat, but I'm not sure he'll be able to run the longass routes he used to. I miss seeing him go 40 yards downfield only to make the leaping grab above the tiny cornerbacks.</font>

[DaveWadding]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah my bad.

Dumb trade either way though. The Skins already have a bunch of RBs and I have zero faith in Beanie Wells.</font>

Cards drafted a running back in the 2nd round. Ryan Williams out of V Tech.

[Ermaximus]

Tavarius Jackson starting QB for Seattle. Hmmmmmmmm.

[Innovator]

Giants OK Osi's agent to seek trade.

[Innovator]

Hopefully for Buffalo's first round pick.

[Evil Vito]

Early speculation is that the Giants won't be able to get more than a 2nd rounder for him.

Reese said on WFAN today that the Giants will once again be over the cap if Bradshaw re-signs...necessitating more restructuring. That doesn't even include Boss, Amukamara, etc. signing.

Sounds like the grace period with the fans from the SB run is over, a lot of fans sound ready to run Reese out of town for getting the Giants into cap hell. I thought releasing all of those OL would give them enough wiggle room for the rest of the offseason, but I guess not.

I expect Eli to take heavy criticism in the media if he doesn't voluntarily restructure. As though its his responsibility to restructure before being asked.

[Innovator]

Early speculation is that the Giants won't be able to get more than a 2nd rounder for him.

Reese said on WFAN today that the Giants will once again be over the cap if Bradshaw re-signs...necessitating more restructuring. That doesn't even include Boss, Amukamara, etc. signing.

Sounds like the grace period with the fans from the SB run is over, a lot of fans sound ready to run Reese out of town for getting the Giants into cap hell. I thought releasing all of those OL would give them enough wiggle room for the rest of the offseason, but I guess not.

I expect Eli to take heavy criticism in the media if he doesn't voluntarily restructure. As though its his responsibility to restructure before being asked.
He could follow Peyton's example.

[Droford]

Randy Moss retired

[Hanso Amore]

Hopefully for Buffalo's first round pick.

Bills run a 3-4, wouldnt have a spot for him.


Bills Sign Nick Barnett.

Huge upgrade over Pozlusny.

[Emperor Smeat]

Randy Moss retired

He could have easily played for another 1-3 more years but the way he acted and stopped producing last season was horrible.

3 teams in one season and almost nothing in stats after week 5 or 6. The Titans deal was horrible because he barely did anything while the Titans QBs did nothing.

[FearedSanctity]

Denver interested in Osi, because apparently they need a 30th DE

[Skippord]

their all defensive end strategy is brilliant, fuck defensive tackles

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I thought Tebow was playing DT this season?

[Ermaximus]

Nah, Tebow is playing RB this year. They might make him a DE next year in Denver. Especially since Derrick Harvey is a waste of a signing for them.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

oh ok

[Ermaximus]

Who is the Bengals QB going to be this year Supreme?

[RP]

Jeff blake

[Ermaximus]

Never heard of the guy.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You've never heard of Pro Bowl QB Jeff Blake? For shame.

Anyway, probably gonna be Bruce Gradkowski for at least half the season. Don't see Andy Dalton being ready by Week 1.

[Ermaximus]

Hmm so Oakland's old backup QB, the one that won games, will be a Bengal now. Cool.

[Hanso Amore]

I want to see Trent Edwards get some time in Oakland, so the Black Hole Consumes him and his pathetic play.

[Kris P Lettus]

Never heard of the guy.


http://www.autograph-cards.com/Cards%5CBigCards%5C030269.jpg

[Innovator]

APPARENTLY

Jason Garrett took the star off of the helmets of all the rookies, saying they have to earn the star. They are the "Dallas Football Cowboys".

[Gonzo]

Early speculation is that the Giants won't be able to get more than a 2nd rounder for him.

Reese said on WFAN today that the Giants will once again be over the cap if Bradshaw re-signs...necessitating more restructuring. That doesn't even include Boss, Amukamara, etc. signing.

Sounds like the grace period with the fans from the SB run is over, a lot of fans sound ready to run Reese out of town for getting the Giants into cap hell. I thought releasing all of those OL would give them enough wiggle room for the rest of the offseason, but I guess not.

I expect Eli to take heavy criticism in the media if he doesn't voluntarily restructure. As though its his responsibility to restructure before being asked.

I didn't realize the cap situation was that drastic. For shame.

[Droford]

http://matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/public/sites/483/assets/93Q5_E8EB61628D2144B585479B7D7B754E96.jpg

Gonna be the FB blocking for Ray Rice now. Ray Rice is gonna have a huge season if what he did for Foster last year isn't a fluke.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Eagles sign Ronnie Brown. Vick, Young, and Brown will probably all be on the field on more than one occasion - leading to the craziest Wildcat offense you've ever seen.

Madden 12 is gonna be unplayable online. Everybody will be using the Eagles.</font>

[SammyG]

lol Rams sign Norwood. This Free Agent period has been ridiculously awesome for us

[Boomer]

Norwood will get injured, so it won't matter. Great player, but can't fucking stay healthy.

[Kris P Lettus]

APPARENTLY

Jason Garrett took the star off of the helmets of all the rookies, saying they have to earn the star. They are the "Dallas Football Cowboys".

The Dallas Football Sneetches

[Kris P Lettus]

I wish the Saints would go after Asante Samuels..

[DrA]

Former No. 3 pick Joey Harrington was seriously injured on Sunday night when a bicycle he was riding was hit by an SUV.
Harrington remains in a Portland, Ore., hospital with a broken collar bone, punctured lung and a cut on his head. The injuries are not life threatening and the former Detroit Lions quarterback is expected to be released on Tuesday.
He suffered the injuries after an SUV ran into him from behind. Harrington was biking home in an area without bike lanes when the driver, a 26-year-old man, drove too close and hit him. The man stayed with Harrington after the accident and cooperated with authorities. He later was cited for following too close.
Harrington's father said his son was wearing a helmet and was extremely lucky that the injuries weren't worse.
"The impact … put him up on the top of the car," John Harrington said. "Joey ended up upside down and came down on his head and shoulder and then skidded off to the side."
In his six-year NFL career, Harrington accumulated a 26-50 record, throwing for 79 touchdowns and 85 interceptions. He was drafted with the third pick of the 2002 NFL draft but never could recapture the magic he had at the University of Oregon. He led the Ducks to a 25-3 record during his career and a win in the 2001 Fiesta Bowl.
Harrington last played in the NFL in 2007 when he went 3-7 with the Atlanta Falcons.

[RP]

That's horrible. Seemrd like a really good guy.

[RP]

The Colts are doing work on FA. Ernie sims, jamaal anderson and tommie harris? Money. Colts are officially going to the playoffs now.

[RP]

I seriously feel like the Colts have made a superbowl contender now.

[Evil Vito]

Sounds like the Giants have lowered the asking price on Osi to a second rounder.

They were never going to get a 1st rounder since the new CBA means draftees make less money. But the fact that they officially dropped their asking price shows they want him out of town.

I just hope the final decision is made soon so that they can just move on from it.

[McLegend]

That Ronnie Brown signing doesn't really set my world on fire, but I guess it's not a bad signing.

I doubt he plays a crucial role.

[Evil Vito]

The circus act continues, Giants rescind permission for Osi to seek a trade.

Hope that's the end of it. Either he plays or he kills his own value by holding out all year.

[parkmania]

As usual, the Steelers sign noone of note.

[Nark Order]

49ers with the worst free agency I can remember.

[DaveBrawl]

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/02/026cd1accb30c64451ea117d6e9aaf9f/photo_this_guy_has_a_picture_of_john_elway_tattooed_on_his_thigh.jpg

Who took my picture?

[Emperor Smeat]

49ers the favorite so far in getting Braylon Edwards and have the cap space to give him a nice deal in terms of money. If he does sign, ESPN is rumoring it would be fore 1 year although a 2-year deal could be possible with only the 1st guaranteed.

The Giants shut down the trade window for Osi and are keeping him for the season. The biggest problem was nobody wanted to match the 1st Round pick demands from the Giants as a start.

[McLegend]

I'm a little late on this, but...

Donovan McNabb seriously needs to STFU about the Eagles. He's not even necessarily wrong, but you play for The Vikings now. Get over it.

[Ermaximus]

Braylon Edwards needs to come to Jacksonville.

[Battlekat]

As usual, the Steelers sign noone of note.

Are you forgetting the epic resigning of William Gay. Easily the best secondary in the league!

I seriously expect us to have another Super Bowl hangover and possibly miss the playoffs.

[Evil Vito]

LOL you've gotta be fucking kidding me. Osi is now considering getting knee surgery and sitting out the year if he isn't given a new contract or traded.

So he wants to get paid...yet he's content getting his second surgery in 3 years, killing his value further. Not to mention the Giants still have him under contract for another year after this. By the time he's a free agent, he'll be over 30 with multiple surgeries and a bad attitude.

I partly think that the Giants should have just moved him for a 2nd rounder and hope the pick pans out - just to get this cancer off the team. But seeing him willingly sabotage his career to make a point is hilarious.

[Innovator]

LOL you've gotta be fucking kidding me. Osi is now considering getting knee surgery and sitting out the year if he isn't given a new contract or traded.

So he wants to get paid...yet he's content getting his second surgery in 3 years, killing his value further. Not to mention the Giants still have him under contract for another year after this. By the time he's a free agent, he'll be over 30 with multiple surgeries and a bad attitude.

I partly think that the Giants should have just moved him for a 2nd rounder and hope the pick pans out - just to get this cancer off the team. But seeing him willingly sabotage his career to make a point is hilarious.

Osi has now moved into AJ Burnett territory. Just go. Go away.

[Evil Vito]

At this point I'm more concerned that Amukamara still hasn't signed. Sounds like it's a classic case of a guy falling deeper than anybody thought in the draft, but he feels he should be paid like a top 10 pick anyway.

[RP]

Maybe the Giants should stop being cheap assholes.

[Hanso Amore]

There is a structure now, so Prince can fuck himself. He hasnt done anything in the NFL to hold out for more money.

[Nark Order]

Come on Braylon Edwards, you big jerk. Sign with San Francisco.

[CSL]

LOL you've gotta be fucking kidding me. Osi is now considering getting knee surgery and sitting out the year if he isn't given a new contract or traded.

So he wants to get paid...yet he's content getting his second surgery in 3 years, killing his value further. Not to mention the Giants still have him under contract for another year after this. By the time he's a free agent, he'll be over 30 with multiple surgeries and a bad attitude.

I partly think that the Giants should have just moved him for a 2nd rounder and hope the pick pans out - just to get this cancer off the team. But seeing him willingly sabotage his career to make a point is hilarious.

Osi has now moved into AJ Burnett territory. Just go. Go away.

fuck youuu, longer he stays, the longer my jersey is relevant

[CSL]

lol apparently the 49ers very publicly shopped Taylor Mays to every team via an e-mail. Then signed Donte Whitner who had already announced he was going to the Bengals on Twitter. Go go gadget internet

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah. Story broke here - Local Sports host literally received a text from whitner stating he was signing with the Bengals.

3 Hours Later he Tweeted that he was going to the 49ers.

What a dick.

The Best part? 3 years for under 12 million. The Bills offered him 4.5 to 5 per year during the season for 4 or 5 years. He turned it down expecting to make 7 Million per on the Free Agent Market. Bills said fuck off, and now here he is , making much less.

[FearedSanctity]

Teams have until tomorrow to be cap compliant and the Raiders are $15mil over :lol:

[James Steele]

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Al-Davis-Raiders-2011.jpg
"OOOOH...I'M SOOOOOOOOOOOOO SCARED!"

[James Steele]

http://gordonkeith.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/al-davis.jpg
"WHERE THE FUCK IS MY PRUNE JUICE?!?!?!"

[CSL]

legit looks like an abused guinea pig in the bottom pic, teeth and everything

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: ESPN's quick summary of what is in the new CBA.

Makes it seem like punishing Harrison was part of the negotiations even though his name never appears at all in the article.

CBA Ratified
NFL players ratified CBA, which includes HGH testing, Roger Goodell will retain control over NFL personal conduct policy and will not punish James Harrison

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6834391/nfl-players-ratify-collective-bargaining-agreement-which-includes-hgh-testing-sources-say

[Innovator]

49ers signed a kid I used to train with, unsigned free agent WR who runs a 4.47 40 and benched 225 28 times. Chris Hogan, you guys got a good player.

[Aguakate]

So now it is rumored that Favre may go to the Dolphins.

Great. More "Will he or won't he" Brett Favre talk.

[FearedSanctity]

The agent for retired QB Brett Favre addressed rumors his client might come out of retirement in a statement on Thursday.
The South Florida Sun-Sentinel is irresponsibly spreading info that Favre could end up quarterbacking the Dolphins this season. "Brett Favre's retired, that's all I can say," said agent Bus Cook. "He's like Elvis now. People just won't let go." We're confident Favre won't be playing in the NFL this season.

[Skippord]

Somewhere Ed Werder just shed a single tear

[Aguakate]

Somewhere Ed Werder just shed a single tear

LOL Ed Werder, ESPN.

[Evil Vito]

Prince finally signs :love:

Now that the Giants brought back David Carr on a cheap 1 year deal, they probably should cut Sage Rosenfels. Coughlin generally only carries 2 QB on the active roster anyway and Sage is inexplicably due to make $3 million. That money could be used to bring back Boss.

[FearedSanctity]

Too late for that

AdamSchefter
Filed to ESPN: Raiders reached agreement with former Giants tight end Kevin Boss on a four-year, $16 million

[Innovator]

shit.

[Evil Vito]

Fuckkkkkk. What a mess of an offseason.

Guess its put up or shut up time for Travis Beckum to prove that he can be an offensive playmaker. But he's too small to block, so I'm expecting to see plenty of Ben Patrick now. Terrific.

[RP]

Rob Ryan looks fucking pregnant

[Evil Vito]

If I'm Reese, I now say fuck it and offer Osi to the Seahawks for John Carlson and a 2nd rounder. Decent replacement for Boss and they get rid of the headcase.

[Emperor Smeat]

Steelers resign LaMarr Woodley to the 2nd highest deal in team history at 6 years, $51 million.

Jets released Cotchery after the team agreed to his request due to him feeling the team didn't want him. So far the Jets have lost 3 WRs and only brought in Plax who is hurt right now.

The bidding for Derrick Mason is at 4 teams with the Ravens and Titans as favorites and the Browns as a wildcard if they offer a huge deal. The Jets are also interested but are not willing to offer a large contract to get him.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants bring back Dave Tollefson :cool: Always loved that guy.</font>

[Skippord]

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/407984660/schefter4_normal.JPG
AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter



Cannot confirm.... RT @sportsintheATL (http://twitter.com/sportsintheATL): I see that Ed Werder has broken up with Favre and is now dating Tebow.

best tweet

[SammyG]

The Rams will make the NFC Championship title game.

[Emperor Smeat]

Derrick Mason signs with the Jets even though he could have gotten more money elsewhere.

Cortland Finnegan walks out of Titans camp due to a contract dispute but as of now it is not being considered an official holdout.

Vikings reveal McNabb gets $5 million for a 1 year deal with $2 million extra as incentives.

DeSean Jackson ends his holdout with the Eagles and the team itself is willing to work on a contract extension. He ended up being fined about $330,000 for 11 days of missed camp or about 60% of what he made last year.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Well...guess we WON'T be seeing a lot of Ben Patrick at tight end for the Giants, because he just retired abruptly 5 days after signing.

Then Prince Amukamara broke his foot in his second ever NFL practice.

8-8 might be a generous prediction at this point.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Vito suicide watch begins

[DaveWadding]

the Vito suicide watch never ends.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yup. Just call me Moe Szyslak.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Honestly though, it never gets old hearing fans of quality franchises predicting the coming apocalypse because something like their kick coverage is weak or their third string tight end has turf toe. You guys have it rough, man.

I know Hanso feels me on this. All the rest of you can suck it.

[Gonzo]

<font color=goldenrod>Well...guess we WON'T be seeing a lot of Ben Patrick at tight end for the Giants, because he just retired abruptly 5 days after signing.

Then Prince Amukamara broke his foot in his second ever NFL practice.

8-8 might be a generous prediction at this point.</font>

The writing on the wall is not looking good. :(

[Droford]

I hope theres some sort of Batman curse on the Steelers.


PITTSBURGH -- The Pittsburgh Steelers returned to training camp for an afternoon practice after briefly going rogue on Saturday. http://images.ibsys.com/2011/0805/28775748_200X150.jpg About a dozen Steelers suited up as members of the fictitious Gotham Rogues against the Rapid City Monuments in "The Dark Knight Rises," the new Batman movie that's currently filming in Pittsburgh.Thousands of black and gold-clad extras were recruited to play football fans in Saturday's stadium scene at Heinz Field. A Rogues logo was painted on the 50-yard line, and "Steelers" was replaced by "Gotham Rogues" in the home end zone. The fans saw Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward wearing his usual No. 86 jersey -- for Gotham instead of Pittsburgh -- and former coach Bill Cowher making his return to the Heinz Field sidelines, playing a Rogues coach.Other players included quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, Willie Colon, Troy Polamalu, Heath Miller, Ike Taylor, Ryan Clark, Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel."It'll be a fun, neat experience for us," said Roethlisberger, who joked that his teammates may need Screen Actors Guild cards now."Hopefully, I'll make the cut," Smith said. "Batman's the best superhero. He's awesome." <table class="clkImgTbl" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="239"><tbody><tr><td valign="top">http://www.wtae.com/2011/0806/28789159_239X320.jpg (http://www.wtae.com/image/28789159/detail.html)Bill Cowher as a Gotham Rogues football coach in "The Dark Knight Rises."
</td></tr></tbody></table>

Linebacker LaMarr Woodley told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review that he was a big Batman fan as a child and was excited to be in the movie.Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl was also there as a Rapid City coach.

[FearedSanctity]

Apparently Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil are fucking shit up in camp. So excited about this D for once

[Aguakate]

In his HOF speech, Deion Sanders mentioned that when he was younger, he was ashamed of his "momma", due to her working as a cleaning lady in hospitals and stuff, and his peers making fun of him for that. His solution? Becoming rich and famous so his "momma" wouldn't have to work as a cleaning lady.

...Uuum...sounds like YOU'RE the problem, guy.

[Innovator]

The writing on the wall is not looking good. :(
It's looking amazing for the 2012 draft.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

In his HOF speech, Deion Sanders mentioned that when he was younger, he was ashamed of his "momma", due to her working as a cleaning lady in hospitals and stuff, and his peers making fun of him for that. His solution? Becoming rich and famous so his "momma" wouldn't have to work as a cleaning lady.

...Uuum...sounds like YOU'RE the problem, guy.

What the fuck are you talking about? That's awesome. Good for him.

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, why did you quote "momma" like that is something crazy to call one's mother??

[Supreme Olajuwon]

the "blacks" use such silly words :rofl:

[Innovator]

What an asshole. He wanted to make it big to take care of his mom.

[Kris P Lettus]

the "blacks" use such silly words :rofl:


Thats what i call my mom..

:$

[Nark Order]

49ers got a receiver and a safety. Watch out world. We might win 6 games instead of 5 now. Be on the fucking lookout.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Thats what i call my mom..

:$
i was kidding, you silly billy :p

[Droford]

49ers got a receiver and a safety. Watch out world. We might win 6 games instead of 5 now. Be on the fucking lookout.

I think Harbaugh can get 8-10 wins out of them. Its the NFC West for crying out loud.

[Innovator]

I think Harbaugh can get 8-10 wins out of them. Its the NFC West for crying out loud.
Alex. Smith.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The fact that they are giving Alex Smith yet ANOTHER year, 7 fucking years after he's already been proven to be a huge bust...just tells me that they are hoping to tank to get Luck.</font>

[RP]

Eli Manning just died. Bummer

[Kris P Lettus]

Can not wait to see Mark Ingram.. Saints improved on every position that was trouble last year.. got bigger on the d-line, got faster at de, got more depth at db and sured up our running game with Ingram..

I can not f'n wait for football..

[Hanso Amore]

Honestly though, it never gets old hearing fans of quality franchises predicting the coming apocalypse because something like their kick coverage is weak or their third string tight end has turf toe. You guys have it rough, man.

I know Hanso feels me on this. All the rest of you can suck it.

Right?

Like hearing someone complain that after their two potential 1000 yard RBs, they lack any DEPTH at HB.

http://i.imgur.com/OpoQQ.jpg

[Hanso Amore]

The Bills are rolling into this season counting on Shawn Merriman to anchor a shitty defense, and Karl Malones son to start at LT - By the way, he has now played Football longer in the NFL than he did in college and High School COMBINED.

Ugh.

[Ermaximus]

Hanso, I feel you. The Jags have vastly improved a terrible D, but now they severly lack an offense. I mean yeah we have MJD, but everyone and their momma knows we hand the ball off. Mercedes Lewis can't do everything either, and Mike Thomas should be the #1 receiver now that Sims-Walker is gone. Can't wait until Gabbert takes over at QB.

[Droford]

I got a pretty good deal on my Tix to the Ravens/Titans game.

Paid face value ($60) for 2 tickets in LOGE section 320 ROW D. Free Shipping too, but I had to pay $15 service charge on both tickets. Not bad.

http://media.fansnap.com/venues/lp-field/large/4633/lp-field-section-loge-320.png

My tickets are further down though, but same section

Im excited.

[Hanso Amore]

I like being in the upper section to have that high POV myself, though I dont love the corners. All in all its a good deal and should be a good seat Dro.

[Hanso Amore]

Can I ask why you needed shipping on tickets? They dont let you print them out?

[Innovator]

Yeah I love being in the upper level, you can see the plays developing easier.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah the club level 2nd) is usually the best seats in the Dome.. gonna try and make the prime time falcons game the day after xmas..

[Kris P Lettus]

Listening to camp coverage all weekend made me soooo anxious.. I really think we have a good shot at another title run if everyone stays healthy..

[Battlekat]

Just read on nfl.com that the Ravens landed Ricky Williams for two years. As much as I despise that team, it's definitely a great move to add depth in the backfield.

[Hanso Amore]

Who the fuck is going to start at RB in Miami?

[Battlekat]

Who the fuck is going to start at RB in Miami?

I guess either the rookie Daniel Thomas (I think thats his name anyway) or Reggie Bush. Either way thats a pretty shitty running back situation.

[Droford]

Can I ask why you needed shipping on tickets? They dont let you print them out?

I didnt pay the fed ex shipping, just the $15 service charge per ticket for the 3rd party seller.

There was a code for free shipping on orders over $100.

[Droford]

Williams and Leach >>>>> McGahee and McClain

Seems to me the Ravens are going back to running the football

[Hanso Amore]

I didnt pay the fed ex shipping, just the $15 service charge per ticket for the 3rd party seller.

There was a code for free shipping on orders over $100.

Right, My question is why there was shipping at all. Like all of the tickets I have ever bought were digital downloads.

[Nark Order]

The 49ers definitely aren't going to try to tank for luck, I don't agree with the Alex Smith decision but if Harbaugh wants to get behind him for one last harrah then fine I guess. Maybe I'll be surprised. Probably not. But maybe.

[Droford]

Right, My question is why there was shipping at all. Like all of the tickets I have ever bought were digital downloads.

Well..there were options for downloaded tickets but I chose the cheapest one and it wasn't an option. Plus I like the idea of having an actual ticket that I can keep and not a regular piece of paper. Not to mention the fact that I would have spent more money because shipping and handling was free but the fee to print tickets out wasn't.

[Evil Vito]

I'm trying not to put too much stock into training camp injuries...but just like last year it feels like the Giants' injury list is growing by the day. It's almost like they didn't do one iota of conditioning on their own during the lockout.

[Hanso Amore]

I'm trying not to put too much stock into training camp injuries...but just like last year it feels like the Giants' injury list is growing by the day. It's almost like they didn't do one iota of conditioning on their own during the lockout.

SKY





IS





FALLING

[Hanso Amore]

Well..there were options for downloaded tickets but I chose the cheapest one and it wasn't an option. Plus I like the idea of having an actual ticket that I can keep and not a regular piece of paper. Not to mention the fact that I would have spent more money because shipping and handling was free but the fee to print tickets out wasn't.

Weird. Cant believe there is a Digital Printout fee for tickets in some places now. I like to have a physical ticket as well, was just curious.

[Gonzo]

SKY





IS





FALLING

He's right though. The Giants lost Kevin Boss in FA, another TE retired. Travis Beckum is pretty much a big ? and the "backup" TE is also the starting FB.

Furthermore, they lost one reserve CB for the year and Prince broke his foot.

It's the kind of thing where if this becomes a trend they won't even hit the ground running.

[CSL]

1 year removed from 1200 receiving yds, Steve Smith joins the Eagles "revolution"

[Innovator]

What.The.Fuck.

[McLegend]

THE



SKY




IS



STILL





FALLING

[Droford]

Id assume that if the Eagles dont go undefeated and win the Super Bowl 111-0 this year that Andy Reid is done as their coach right?

[McLegend]

Hmmm well if te make the Super bowl I'd imagine he would be back regardless. I don't know about anything else though.

Also this signing says something about Jeremy Maclin's illness.

[Innovator]

I can't wait for Desean to blow his achilles.

[Innovator]

JustinTuckNYG91 (https://twitter.com/#%21/JustinTuckNYG91) Justin Tuck



Congrats Steve Smith. We will see you soon.

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[Droford]

By this time tomorrow night I'll either be feeling good about the Ravens or I'll be wanting to go jump off a cliff somewhere. Probably the later the way things have gone so far. Right now for instance Tyrod Taylor is the Ravens backup QB given Bulger retired.
At least there will be chatter tomorrow night about him owning VT QB records where Vick played there a decade ago.

[RP]

Omg omg omg Tyrod Taylor omg omg omg backup qb omg omg omg what will the Ravens do omg omg omg the seasons over omg omg omg

[Evil Vito]

Wow...stunned right now. Honestly don't know how much Smith will contribute this year, but still. I just read today that Smith and his agent were telling teams that he was only interested in returning to the Giants. I hope it turns out the Giants weren't confident about his knee rather than Smith fucking them off on his own.

Guess the Eagles didn't get the memo that buying a championship in the NFL is very, very hard to do.

[RP]

Are you going to cry about an average receiver right now?

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Rex Grossman doing a little trash talk saying the Redskins will win the NFC East.

I forgot he was even still in the league after leaving Chicago.

[Droford]

Omg omg omg Tyrod Taylor omg omg omg backup qb omg omg omg what will the Ravens do omg omg omg the seasons over omg omg omg
Flacco hasn't missed a game yet in his career, but it would be nice to have a veteran backup QB. As it stands now the backup is actually Hunter Cantwell who has never thrown a pass in the NFL, but I kind of figure if they dont find a veteran (BRODY CROYLE is the hot rumor..lol) that Taylor would leapfrog Cantwell.

Its all I can do to not have Visions of Flacco getting hurt in the preaseason or something stupid though. I mean..Jake Delhomme, Daunte Culpepper, Brodie Croyle, Jeff Garcia..none of those names really has me thinking anything other than epic disaster.

Also the #2 WR spot behind Boldin is looking like its going to come down to Cotchery, Evans or whatever Rookie shows the most promise over the next 4 weeks. If the decision is Cotchery or Evans, Id rather have Cotchery..

[RP]

You can't miss him. He looks like fat Tim Tebow right now.

[RP]

Flacco hasn't missed a game yet in his career, but it would be nice to have a veteran backup QB. As it stands now the backup is actually Hunter Cantwell who has never thrown a pass in the NFL, but I kind of figure if they dont find a veteran (BRODY CROYLE is the hot rumor..lol) that Taylor would leapfrog Cantwell.

Its all I can do to not have Visions of Flacco getting hurt in the preaseason or something stupid though. I mean..Jake Delhomme, Daunte Culpepper, Brodie Croyle, Jeff Garcia..none of those names really has me thinking anything other than epic disaster.

If you have to go to any one of those Qbs for a long period of time, you have no chance at a superbowl.

[Skippord]

Grossman does totally look like fat Tim Tebow

honestly thought it was a Tebow interview when I saw him on ESPN earlier

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Smith heeling it up on Facebook, saying the Eagles organization wanted him much more than the Giants. And that the Giants insulted him by not matching Philly's offer of $4 million for a guy with one knee. This despite him saying he only wanted to sign with and play for the Giants not even a day earlier.

What a phony. If a Giant takes him out at the knee this year, it might be the first time an injury actually makes me smile.</font>

[RP]

How would you feel if one of the Eagles takes Eli's knee out?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm pretty much expecting it given how injuries have played out thus far.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If somebody offered me $4 million I'd shit all over my ex team too.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can't help but think that all this Eagles hype and Giants drama is somehow going to lead to Dallas going to the Super Bowl.

[Skippord]

Redskins

[RP]

I still like the Packers, Falcons, Saints and maybe even Chicago cause Cutler might have a big year . The Eagles are not going to walk over everyone in the NFC. This talk is silly.

[RP]

Rex Grossovereaterman

[RP]

I'm hearing great things from Colts training camp.

Ernie Sims has everyone buzzing. Apparently he's been lighting people up when in pads. Could be a major FA steal for the Colts.

Also heard the Colts 1st round pick, Anthony Costanzo ( left tckle) has been going one on one with Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis. And the word is that he's holding his own very nicely. He might start.

[DrA]

It's going to be another one hit wonder in the NFC just as it has been for the last ten years or so.

[DrA]

Philadelphia is not a Super Bowl team by the way. Another free agent fluffed team that gets a bunch of hype because people base their predictions Madden XBox 360 player ratings.

[Innovator]

Steve Smith turned down $15 million guaranteed from the Giants about a month before his knee shattered. Dude has small short term memory.

[Innovator]

Philadelphia is not a Super Bowl team by the way. Another free agent fluffed team that gets a bunch of hype because people base their predictions Madden XBox 360 player ratings.

BTW, what's the feel with the Cowboys amongst their fans?