NFL 2011 Off Season Thread

[Ermaximus]

Gabbert is starting tonight in New England. Not to sure how to feel about this. Hope he does well considering McCown and Bouman are the back ups. I seriously don't see Bouman making the team, especially since we've cut him 3 times over the last 4 years already.

[Innovator]

You can't miss him. He looks like fat Tim Tebow right now.

JaMarcus Russell has to be so happy someone else is getting fat jokes.

[Battlekat]

Steelers sign Jerricho Cotchery, that adds some nice depth at receiver for us.

[Evil Vito]

lol Jerry Reese guarantees playoffs.

[DrA]

BTW, what's the feel with the Cowboys amongst their fans?

I haven't really been paying attention to be honest with you. They're playing musical chairs with the offensive line, although a lot of people think that the draft fixed many of those problems. Many people think that Sean Lee, the draft pick from last year, will be a star at linebacker.

All of the players they got rid of were superfluous. They're a bit thin at wide receiver, but I don't really think that matters in the NFL really. Same thing with running back, although I think they have enough there to be productive. The coach they have is really good, and Tony Romo will probably be up to standards, so you're looking at a pretty good team this year I think. They will certainly be better than last year.

[Droford]

New rule - all scoring plays will have replays initiated by the booth and not the coach so no challenges will have to be used on plays that are called a Touchdown (though if its ruled not a touchdown but the coach thinks it was they will have to use it). My guess is this will mean that a lot of the marginally close calls in the endzone will be ruled touchdowns and left to replay to confirm or not.

[Crimson]

I haven't really been paying attention to be honest with you. They're playing musical chairs with the offensive line, although a lot of people think that the draft fixed many of those problems. Many people think that Sean Lee, the draft pick from last year, will be a star at linebacker.

All of the players they got rid of were superfluous. They're a bit thin at wide receiver, but I don't really think that matters in the NFL really. Same thing with running back, although I think they have enough there to be productive. The coach they have is really good, and Tony Romo will probably be up to standards, so you're looking at a pretty good team this year I think. They will certainly be better than last year.

And the secondary is real suspect. They didn't add anybody.. Elam, a solid tackler but thats about it.

I hope Victor Butler gets more playing time, he seems to make plays every time he's out there.

[Team Sheep]

New rule - all scoring plays will have replays initiated by the booth and not the coach so no challenges will have to be used on plays that are called a Touchdown (though if its ruled not a touchdown but the coach thinks it was they will have to use it). My guess is this will mean that a lot of the marginally close calls in the endzone will be ruled touchdowns and left to replay to confirm or not.

Stupidest rule ever. Talk about undermining the officials.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Love that there was a kickoff return for a touchdown last night despite kickoffs being moved 5 yards in.

Dumb rule. Limiting the blocking/formations on those plays is fine, but moving it 5 yards in solely to try and cause more touchbacks sucks. I don't care if there are injuries - it's one of the most exciting plays of the game.</font>

[Innovator]

<font color=goldenrod>Love that there was a kickoff return for a touchdown last night despite kickoffs being moved 5 yards in.

Dumb rule. Limiting the blocking/formations on those plays is fine, but moving it 5 yards in solely to try and cause more touchbacks sucks. I don't care if there are injuries - it's one of the most exciting plays of the game.</font>

Players also only get a 5 yard running start.

[Hanso Amore]

I dont mind them changing Kickoff rules for safety. So many injuries. Its the only part of the game where you have massive men with 50 yard head starts barreling into someone trying to block them.

Ever since the Kevin everett game I have agreed. I dont like moving the kick spot though.

The game is evolving, time for Special teams to. Been the same about 25-30 years with no changes until recently.

[Hanso Amore]

Lee Evans is apparently on the block as the bills have a ton of young WRs ready to break out.

Im ok with trading him, but it sounds like they arent going to get much in return, which I dont get. if you want to deal from a strength to make your team better, cool, but if you dont get ernough in return for a starter, you are just making holes.

I like Lee. Classy guy. Hope they dont trade him. But Joker Johnson is the clear number 1 now, and Lee cant run any routes except "GO DEEP AND AN 80 YARD BOMB IS COMING"

[James Steele]

I know it was only a preseason game, but I am glad Garrett showed some balls and went for 2. A few guys shined yesterday and hopefully earn a spot on the roster and get a chance to develop.

[RP]

Colts are apparently close to signing TJ Houshmanzadeh....not sure what I think about that.

[Evil Vito]

Giants are said to be interested in Evans, not sure what to make of it. He'd give them a legit deep threat - but he's owed $5 million each of the next two years. Giants may be in cap hell again next year with all the restructuring they did.

But I would like to get a vet in there, since at this point the most experienced WR likely to make the 53 man roster is Domenik Hixon.

[Hanso Amore]

Evans to Baltimore for a 4th...Ugh, wanted more.

as long as Boldin is there doing everything else, Lee can just run fly routes all day. Good fit for him.

[IC Champion]

Anquan Boldin is a seriously underrated reciever.

[Ermaximus]

What are wide recievers? Those don't exist in Jacksonville. At least not since the snow sniffer and Keenan.

[Crimson]

Boldin is done, he's not the same anymore. Tandon Doss will probably be Flacos' go to guy.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to ESPN, Pats QB Brian Hoyer is the new "Kevin Kolb" which means some team is going to be fooled in giving up a lot to get him.

Unlike Cassel, Hoyer doesn't have nearly the experience nor stats while at least Kolb started a few games and was a legit contender for #1 QB with the Eagles last year.

He isn't a bad player but sort of crazy to give him the "Kolb" tag considering he's only appeared in 10 games with the 1/2 game against Tennessee the most he's ever played (not counting preseason).

[Droford]

Boldin is done, he's not the same anymore. Tandon Doss will probably be Flacos' go to guy.
lol maybe in 2013..but not this year. Boldin is ok, but hes not that speed/deep threat.

Funny it was pointed out that the only reason the Ravens passed on every other WR was apparently because GM Ozzie Newsome was infatuated with Evans after the Ravens/Bills game last year where he caught 10 passes for 100 yards and 3 TDs which was pretty much his only production for the Bills last year.

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah, Evans is a one dimensional player at this point and has lost a step, but he should be a nice weapon on a contender. I wouldnt expect much in the way of production at a high level, but I think his value comes in having to plan against him. He should open up the middle a bit for boldin.

[Boomer]

Falcons first-team looked awesome. So excited for Julio Jones and the season.

[Innovator]

Giants first O looked amazing,



for Eagles, Cowboys, and Redskins fans.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Looks like the Panthers have drafted a Donovan McNabb clone with their top pick in the draft.

Misses easy short throws
Claps his hands and smiles
Gets sacked
Smiles
Good deep throws
Black
Can Run
Smiles</font>

[Hanso Amore]

Shawn Merriman sighting in Chicago tonight.

[SammyG]

lol Curtis Painter was awful. I love this new Rams offense so much. Can't wait for the season.

[RP]

Yah Painter should be benched


Oh wait, he is benched.

[Innovator]

I'm glad to see the Giants addressed the problem of no one covering the seam go route in the offseason.

[RP]

Lol

[RP]

I hope your backup qb performed well, or sammy g might talk shit

[SammyG]

I'm not talking shit at all, I realize Manning is incredible and the starter. I'm just stoked on how good the Rams looked in that first game. I legit think we might beat Philly week one.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants bring in Rhys Lloyd to fill in for Tynes while he's hurt.

Think he has a chance of sticking around as a kickoff specialist. Even with the new kickoff rules, Tynes' leg won't guarantee a touchback. Lloyd would change that.</font>

[Innovator]

I'm not talking shit at all, I realize Manning is incredible and the starter. I'm just stoked on how good the Rams looked in that first game. I legit think we might beat Philly week one.
Rams are gonna be solid this year. Definitely gonna be a team that makes a huge leap forward.

[Emperor Smeat]

NFL postponed the Supplemental Draft on the day before it was supposed to occur just for Terrelle Pryor so that instead of him missing this season, he can get more time to be legally declared ineligible by Ohio State and the NCAA while also having at least 1 personal practice for scouts.

Normally the NFL doesn't postpone the SD for just 1 player but they did it for Pryor while the other potential draftees didn't know it was cancelled until after the announcement.

[Riker]

HOLY SHIT HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS SOONER

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Look at this shit. HAHAHA! 10 yards down the field and the dude goes for the endzone.

Illegal much?

I think he is going to be a good NFL backup, maybe starter (was a huge fan of his on college) but man, I still think it is so funny the shit rookies do in their first action. Im sure he was just so revved up he wasnt thinking. Its like guys who score on their own goal. Imagine coming to that realization that you fucked up.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>God I hate the media. Eli Manning gets asked if he thinks he's in the same class as Tom Brady. He said yes.

The media then throws a shitfit over this...what the fuck did you expect him to say? If he said no they would have been all over his ass for that, too. Lose-lose situation.</font>

[Crimson]

He coulda just said 'That's not for me to decide, it's you guys' job' or something like that

[Evil Vito]

Even then, the media would put a negative spin on it as per usual. We all know he's not in Brady's class, very few are.

I'd put Eli in the Top 10, somewhere near the bottom. A lot of people point to his interceptions, but a good amount of them weren't his fault last year. There's a YouTube video kicking around of his 25 INTs from last year, and I can count 10 that the stonehanded receivers tipped into the defense's hands. Dude had some incredibly bad luck.

[Innovator]

All the more reason why Michael Kay is a douche.

[FearedSanctity]

Was wondering if anyone here has or currently uses a VPN to get access to NFL.com's Game Pass, which is basically an online Sunday Ticket. It's $250 for everything (can do monthly payments) or $200 for one team (no payments), but of course it's only available to those outside the US and Mexico.

But apparently you can use a VPN to gain access to it. I've read on several websites about people who do this. I just used a simple UK proxy and was able to get to the order page, but I'm gonna need something faster if I'm gonna shell out $250, so a premium VPN seems to be the way to go.

Just wondering if anyone here has done it before I make the commitment

[Boomer]

I use an Amazon EC2 server to route my connection for MLB.TV to watch Braves stuff since I don't have cable. I would link you to the tutorial, but the one I used got removed. I essentially only use the proxy for the initial connection check, and switch back off the proxy when the game starts loading. The first year is essentially free if you keep everything to the free settings on Amazon; I only made a few initial mistakes in my setup, and in 6 months I've paid 19 cents for the server.

[Boomer]

And I have no idea if NFL game pass checks your connection throughout the game, but I would presume it worked the same way.

[Team Sheep]

I'm using my home university's proxy to watch all my UK TV channels here in the US which is great :D Probably gonna have more chance of watching some Jets games through Sky than local TV here in the South.

[CSL]

Was wondering if anyone here has or currently uses a VPN to get access to NFL.com's Game Pass, which is basically an online Sunday Ticket. It's $250 for everything (can do monthly payments) or $200 for one team (no payments), but of course it's only available to those outside the US and Mexico.

But apparently you can use a VPN to gain access to it. I've read on several websites about people who do this. I just used a simple UK proxy and was able to get to the order page, but I'm gonna need something faster if I'm gonna shell out $250, so a premium VPN seems to be the way to go.

Just wondering if anyone here has done it before I make the commitment

free/ILLEGAL Redzone streams son

[FearedSanctity]

That'd be good if I cared for all the games, but I really only want to watch Denver's. And being in Texas with both an instate AFC (CBS) and NFC (Fox) team, it's damn near impossible to get a game locally unless the Broncos are actually playing the Cowboys/Texans.

Streaming was good for me for a while, but I'm getting tired of streams getting shut down midgame and having to do a mad search for a working one. And worse, given the decline of the team some places just don't stream Bronco games regularly. It may be a bit pricey, but it's worth it to be able to watch the game in HD live, or if I can't catch it live I can watch it archived whenever I'm ready

[Emperor Smeat]

I know its just a preseason game but wow at how bad Vick played vs Pitt.

Love how good the young D on the Pats look after the 1st two preseason games and there was even speculation Brady was struggling in training camp but he was great today.

[FearedSanctity]

Alright, so I found a good cheap VPN service that offers a refund if I don't like it, so for now I'm risking nothing. I check my IP using various different websites and it'll come up as whichever country I'm using. I can use BBC's iPlayer when using a UK VPN. But whenever I try to get to the Game Pass page it gives me the usual "must be out of the US and Mexico" bullshit, so wtf? Why is it the only one I need it to work on is being an asshole?

[Ermaximus]

Playing the Falcons tonight at home. Definately going to that game. Matt Ryan is great, not elite status like Brees, Manning, Rodgers, or Rivers, but he is great. Hell of a WR tandem he's got now too. Ryan to White/Jones, fucking wow.

[Boomer]

Matt Ryan could be great one day, but I tend to agree with you. I hope they open up the offense for him this year.

[Ermaximus]

Considering how the leauge is becoming more of a passing leauge again, he should do well this year.

[Battlekat]

If Julio Jones lives up, I have no doubt that Matt Ryan would definitely be in that elite class and I'm not even a Falcons fan.

[Boomer]

I don't want to get too crazy about Julio Jones yet, but he looked like the real deal in that first preseason game. Kinda gave me the same vibe I got when I first watched Vick. Such a huge upgrade over Michael Jenkins.

[D Mac]

NFL Sunday Ticket is coming to the Playstation 3. No need to have DirectTV at all, but it will cost a whopping $340 bucks for the season.

Too rich for my blood.

[IC Champion]

LOL, how does a guy who lead the league in picks even go to bed at night and have dreams where he's as good as Tom Brady, let alone say it. Eli is trash.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well he beat him in the Super Bowl. So there's that.

[IC Champion]

Anyone who watched that game knows the gianst defensive line won that game. Eli's best play was some flukey ass bullshit, amazing given the context, but still flukey.

[IC Champion]

Eli's the third best QB in his division.

[Riker]

I think most people would take Eli over Romo. Romo puts up big numbers, but hasnt won shit, and doesnt perform in the postseason. If he can even get there.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

very true

but them other QBs aint got no rang

and ESPN has already decided that rings are the only way to judge a QB

[Riker]

I might even take Eli over Vick. Vick is explosive, but other than last year has never been a great passer (we will find if this new Vick is the exception or the rule) and is an injury risk...who also has never won anything.

And what do you really expect a Super Bowl winning QB in the Biggest Market in the world to say?

OH YEAH BRADY IS BETTER THAN ME

He would have gotten eaten alive by the NY media.

[Riker]

Its not like he just came out with it, he was asked if he thinks he is in the elite group.

[IC Champion]

I'd take Trent Dilfer over Dan Marino anyday... Just saying.

[Crimson]

-_-

[Emperor Smeat]

Terrelle Pryor states he will appeal the 5-game suspension handed by the NFL once he gets picked in the Supplemental Draft.

The official reason for the punishment is due to Pryor making himself ineligible and trying to mess around with the NFL drafting system. The NFL is allowing him to become eligible and get the extra time he needs but also wants him to pay a small punishment for the mess he created.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2011/08/terrelle_pryor_finds_his_way_i.html
Nice article that details what lead Goodell to actually punish Pryor and done as a warning to him after initial feelings showed he was willing to sue if the NFL didn't bend their rules for him.

[Droford]

If theres something that pisses me off more than anything, its trying to watch a game thats been tape delayed for play later on and then they fucking show the god damned final score on the bottom line ticker 30 seconds into the game. I could understand if the game was a replay that had already been shown, but this is just fucking annoying as hell.

fuck comcast sports net

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>One day after losing Ryan Williams for the year, the Cardinals lock up Larry Fitzgerald. 8 years, $120 million. Close to $50 million guaranteed.</font>

[ClockShot]

2 Raiders fans shot in the Candlestick Park parking lot after the 49ers/Raiders game.

You'd think they would learn something from Brian Stow.

[El Fangel]

Joined a fantasy football league in attempt to learn this game better.

[Crimson]

2 Raiders fans shot in the Candlestick Park parking lot after the 49ers/Raiders game.

You'd think they would learn something from Brian Stow.

Thugs. learning?:lol:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Dave's TPWW Football league needs at least one more player for it's draft today in two hours.

League#: 147342
Password: Football.
name: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/tpwwff

[D Mac]

Tony HOMO is on the field.

[D Mac]

Bob Sanders on the Chargers huh. Anyone know how RP took that when he heard?

[D Mac]

lol Romo sucks

[FearedSanctity]

RAHIM'S GONNA KILL YOU

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/785482/082011_broncos38_sJPG_900_540_0_95_1_50_50_sJPG_medium.jpg

[Skippord]

guy on the far left is the best

[FearedSanctity]

Old but I love this so much

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/stevonator/sas/9378578e.gif

[ClockShot]

Raiders take Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft.

So do they have any faith in Jason Campbell?

[IC Champion]

Pryor will likely never play a snap at QB in the NFL.

[Innovator]

Jaocbs, you see what happens when you run through a hole instead of dancing?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Terrell Thomas torn ACL. Out for the season. Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?</font>

[Gonzo]

:(

[Innovator]

HERLISZCHZSCHZCH WITH THE INT!

[Innovator]

And fuck, no Thomas means Ross will get more time...


Fuck.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Really hoping they trade for a corner.

Wish there wasn't 2 more weeks of pre-season.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

http://i.imgur.com/2GW5i.jpg

[D Mac]

In other news, Romo still sucks.

[RP]

Fuck it


Colts 14-2... Bring it

[IC Champion]

Heard the Colts are starting to look for a veteran QB, guess Manning isn't healing so well or something.

[Emperor Smeat]

Raiders take Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft.

So do they have any faith in Jason Campbell?

Apparently not based on him sort of struggling so far in the preseason and the report of them wanting Pryor to play as a QB although most likely not this year due to the suspension.

They also sort of screwed themselves for the next draft because now they don't have any picks in between the 1st and 5th Round (2 were used up for Pryor and Campbell).

Money-wise if Pyror ends up not working out, Raiders only would be out $1-$2 million instead of the millions wasted on the mega-bust Jamarcus Russell.

[FearedSanctity]

http://www.opus-photography.net/animatedgifs/juke.gif

[Innovator]

Good news everyone!

Giants also lost DT Marvin Austin for the season, along with CB Brian Witherspoon.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Austin too??? Wow. I knew about Witherspoon already but Austin being done too is a shocker. The guy looked impressive.

I was offered a free ticket to Saturday's game. I generally view pre-season as a waste of time, but I might go simply because the team I see when I eventually get to a regular season game this year is gonna be even further decimated by injuries.</font>

[Innovator]

Dunno, 3rd game is the best to go to. It's Giants/Jets and you'll see the starters into the 3rd.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>True, I'll probably go. Only gotta pitch in for gas and buy a token beer for my friend for getting the ticket.

It's just a shame real life can't be like Madden: Turn off injuries and sim the preseason.</font>

[Innovator]

yeah but then you miss out on everyone getting their hopes up for our secondary then half of it being decimated two preseason games in.

[Gonzo]

If you go to the game Vito pm me. I'll be there. We can meet on the concourse and take DX style photos for the TPWW community.

[Gonzo]

Also, injuries are getting ridiculous tbh.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They should have cut the number pre-season games for this season only and given the teams enough time to run as many mini-camps, strength/conditioning workouts and stuff as possible. In the rush to have the season as it always was they damned some players to not have a season at all.

They knew this was going to happen. The players left to their own devices is leading to all of these season-ending injuries. Some of the players hung around with each other and did the best they could without their staff.

[Gonzo]

I dunno, feel like a torn ACL or torn pectoral could happen any time as a freak accident.

[RP]

Joseph addai mvp

[RP]

Colts just signed Kerry Collins....good game Texans.

[RP]

I know the Farve idea was lol, but Collins? Was Testeverde not available? God, this could be the year the Colts fall.

[parkmania]

I know the Farve idea was lol, but Collins? Was Testeverde not available? God, this could be the year the Colts fall.

Bernie Kosar?

[RP]

I'm honestly watching closely at the superbowl odds cause the last time Manning was hurt to start the season, he win mvp . I like my chances .

[ClockShot]

Colts just signed Kerry Collins....good game Texans.

Collins retired. Either there was nobody at the bottom of the barrel, or this neck injury Peyton Manning got is more serious than everyone thought.

[FearedSanctity]

Gotta be worse than they thought. There are some decent QBs out there who could start for Indy for a week or two, so to go for a guy like Collins really says something IMO

[Droford]

http://www.opus-photography.net/animatedgifs/juke.gif

like how it gets cutoff before he scores the TD

hes played well enough that I guess I dont worry too much about an injury to Flacco but Id still rather have a veteran in there.

Looking forward to the game tonight on ESPN with the Redskins

[Droford]

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ESPN asks the question: What if Vick were white? (http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/id/6894586/imagining-michael-vick-white-quarterback-nfl-espn-magazine)

[Droford]

and the Ravens come back to beat the Redskins with Ray Lewis on commentary from the sidelines..

LOL

[McLegend]

The white Vick really looks like someone, but I can't figure out who.

[Emperor Smeat]

Rex Grossman with a beard?

Then again Grossman looks like a fatter version of Tim Tebow.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://tpww.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5386&d=1205697371

[RP]

White Damninator

[Innovator]

The white Vick really looks like someone, but I can't figure out who.

Brian Austin Green.

[RP]

Curtis Painter wooooooooo!

[RP]

White Vick looks like Colt Brennan

[RP]

Fuck yah Curtis! BOILER UP!

[Mister Sinister]

New rule - all scoring plays will have replays initiated by the booth and not the coach so no challenges will have to be used on plays that are called a Touchdown (though if its ruled not a touchdown but the coach thinks it was they will have to use it). My guess is this will mean that a lot of the marginally close calls in the endzone will be ruled touchdowns and left to replay to confirm or not.

Yeah, This would of been great last year, in that Miami Game where Rapistberger fumbled the ball and Miami recovered it in the Endzone, but the ball was still given to Pittsburgh....

[RP]

Rothlismurderer

[RP]

Seriously proud of Curtis Painter answering the bell tonight.

[Team Sheep]

Can't help but think of Jets @ Colts in December 2009. Ahh memories...

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wish the Giants/Jets could have been cancelled entirely instead of just postponed. The less preseason games, the better.</font>

[Skippord]

really wish Kyle Orton did not play quarterback for my favorite NFL football team

[Mister Sinister]

really wish Kyle Orton did not play quarterback for my favorite NFL football team

Please tell your favorite team to ship him to mine, like everyone expected to happen.

[Skippord]

I will send them a memo

[FearedSanctity]

Ahaha, Tebow jumping up and down on the sideline like a little kid trying to convince Fox to go for it :heart:

[RP]

Bob Ryan is an idiot. I guess he thinks he's the first to scream that the Colts are done. When Indy lost Edge, they were done. When they lost Marvin they were done. Except the fact that they went to two superbowls and won one. People have been saying the Colts will not make the playoffs for the last five years I fucking prey Manning comes back and wins the superbowl. I want that Bob Ryan clip playing non stop. And this other black asshole saying he's seen them play this pre season and it looks bad? Is he just now seeing the Colts play in the pre season????? ESPN needs to stop paying uninformed assholes to have opinions. This is embarrassing.

Fuck you Bob Ryan. Prey Manning don't get healthy soon. Fucking old wrinkly douche.

[RP]

The Colts might have the best defensive line in the league this year. Best pass rush for sure. Freeney looks like he wants to kill people. Two sacks on Rodgers a couple nights a go. Tommy Harris is looking like a steal. And the name to watch out for...Drake Nevis. Drake Nevis might be a pro bowl DT . I guarantee people will be talking about Nevis by mid season.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fucking pitiful.</font>

[Innovator]

I'm gonna take a stab at what Eli will say:

"We did some good things out there tonight but just didn't execute enough and left some points out there. We had some plays." Rinse and repeat twice or thrice.

[Innovator]

And I'm gonna stab Kevin Gilbride if I see one more inside draw from the shotgun. Fuck.

[McLegend]

$100 million

[Innovator]

"No, I'm not concerned," Manning said when reminded that the first-team offense has failed to score a passing touchdown this preseason. "I thought tonight we did some good things. There are definitely things to learn from and things to improve on. We have some new guys in spots; it is just a matter of getting right on target and getting on the same page."

[Droford]

didnt know about this:


The Philadelphia Eagles gave quarterback Michael Vick a second chance after he was released from prison for dog-fighting charges.
http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/31-LFW-Tyrod-news.jpg
While serving time, Vick filed for bankruptcy because he couldn’t pay the $10 to $50 million he owed. The debt, partly acquired because of foolish spending, was amassed despite reportedly making an estimated $25.4 million a year.
So when Vick struck an astronomical deal worth up to $100 million Monday, it not only marked what FoxSports.com’s Alex Marvez called the greatest rags-to-riches-to-rags-to-riches story in all of professional sports, it also displayed an “ultimate show of faith (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/michael-vick-new-hundred-million-deal-makes-him-ultimate-redemption-story-083011)” from the Eagles.
And what prompted such faith?
Vick’s new-found maturity, says SI.com’s Peter King.
“One reason the Eagles felt comfortable handing Vick more than $40 million guaranteed is because they’ve seen a more mature Vick,” King wrote. “A good illustration of that is his relationship with [Ravens sixth-round pick Tyrod] Taylor (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/08/30/mailbag/index.html#ixzz1WXUUC3wo).”
King said one of the most interesting conversations he had on his trainingcamp tour was when Vick talked about his mentorship of Taylor, who quarterbacked at Virginia Tech like Vick did.
The 10-year veteran took the rookie under his wing this spring and summer. They worked out together in Virginia Beach. (ESPN followed the two for a session, which is shown in the video below. I’ve posted this in LFW before, but it’s worth another look.)
With their hometownsjust miles apart, Taylor followed Vick’s career from a young age and grew to idolize him.
“Don’t idolize me,” Vick told Taylor. “Follow me, watch me, but brand yourself, Tyrod.”
From there, they went to work. Vick was determined to help Taylor get ready for an NFL training camp despite the lockout.
“Vick told Taylor that when the lockout ended he had to be ready to step into a practice huddle with the Ravens and call plays confidently,” wrote King. “Because Taylor had been exposed to the Baltimore offense from offseason exposure to Ravens veterans, he had an idea of what the offense was, and what the terminology was, and Vick told him during every workout to make sure he did his homework on the Ravens’ plays.
“Vick would throw basic NFL concepts at him, like how to call protections and how to recognize certain blitzes and how to be sure to go through his progressions on a pass read.”
Vick’s labor of love is already paying dividends. Taylor is surpassing most everyone’s expectations, and is legitimately contending to be Joe Flacco’s backup. Not too shabby for a sixth-rounder who plays for a team that’s expected to reach the playoffs and battle for a Super Bowl berth.
“Everything I asked him to do, he did,” Vick told King. “I’d say, ‘Get in your playbook tonight,’ and he’d come back the next day and I’d ask him things, and he understood.
“This kid I’m really rooting for because he’s gone after it the right way. He really wants to be an NFL quarterback. He’s really worked at it. One night I called him at camp and said, ‘How’s it going, little bro?’ He said, ‘Getting it down. Running with the twos. Going good.’

Had I known that I would have been much more comfortable with Taylor as the backup and not worrying about it. He's been really good in the preseason games.

[Emperor Smeat]

I believe Vick has been involved a lot with the QBs at Virginia Tech especially since his brother fizzled out badly for the college (off-field issues) and the NFL.

ESPN had a mention 1-2 weeks ago how Vick is usually called for input each college pre-season to help improve the training for the QBs so they are more NFL-ready and better players for the team. Obviously he wasn't able to help during his time in jail though.

[Boomer]

There's a part of me that misses Vick in a Falcons uniform (he was the reason I started getting into football at all), but I'm very happy with how the Falcons have turned out without him. He's an amazing player, but the risk-reward drove me nuts as a fan, and he probably never would have gotten as good as he has had he not left Atlanta and had everything else happen to him. He's not the quarterback I remember watching - he's better. The injury risk is still very present, and he's never shown super consistency over an entire season, but he will carry the Eagles on his back some games to make up for it.

That being said, I cannot believe the Falcons ever survived the whole debacle. Kudos to Arthur Blank, Thomas Dimitroff, and Mike Smith for making a team that looks to be good for a while in a really tough division, and fuck Bobby Petrino.

[Droford]

and..tyrod taylor tore up his shoulder in the final preseason game..so the Ravens will have to go scraping the bottom of the barrel for a veteran backup QB now.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jerrel Jernigan is going to take years off of my life if he actually is the punt returner this year. The guy has fumbled/muffed almost every punt this pre-season. He doesn't look at the ball because he's too afraid of getting hit.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Da'Rel Scott</font> :love:

[RP]

Good to see Rivers McCown wrote and posted the annual " Why the Colts run may be over" column on ESPN insider. I didn't know what I would do with out it.

It starts with " Indianapolis core is aging fast and the team doesn't have young talent to replace it "

Wouldn't feel like a Colts gloom and doom story if they didn't recycle that line from the last five years.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Clint Sintim might have torn his ACL, yet another season-ending injury. Didn't have much faith in him contributing anyway, seems like he is officially a bust...plus plenty of younger LB's have looked excellent. Anyway, with the pre-season over with and roster cuts due this weekend, I'm gonna take a stab at the Giants' 53-man roster. Mind, I wouldn't be shocked if they picked up a player or two off of the waiver wire when other teams make their cuts, especially at TE.

QB (2): Eli Manning, David Carr
HB (4): Ahmad Bradshaw, Brandon Jacobs, D.J. Ware, Da'Rel Scott
FB (1): Henry Hynoski
WR (6): Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham, Domenik Hixon, Victor Cruz, Devin Thomas, Jerrel Jernigan
TE (3): Travis Beckum, Bear Pascoe, Daniel Coats
OL (9): Will Beatty, David Diehl, David Baas, Chris Snee, Kareem McKenzie, Kevin Boothe, Mitch Petrus, James Brewer, Stacy Andrews

DE (5): Justin Tuck, Jason Pierre-Paul, Osi Umenyiora, Dave Tollefson, Justin Trattou
DT (4): Chris Canty, Linval Joseph, Rocky Bernard, Jimmy Kennedy
LB (7): Mathias Kiwanuka, Jonathan Goff, Michael Boley, Phillip Dillard, Greg Jones, Jacquain Williams, Spencer Paysinger
CB (5): Corey Webster, Aaron Ross, Brian Williams, Prince Amukamara, Michael Coe
S (4): Antrel Rolle, Kenny Phillips, Deon Grant, Tyler Sash

K (1): Lawrence Tynes
P (1): Steve Weatherford
LS (1): Zak DeOssie

---

Herzlich doesn't make it. Really gutting, and I hope I'm wrong...but I just don't see the Giants giving up on Phillip Dillard. It takes a lot for the Giants to give the axe to one of their 4th round or earlier draft picks after only one year. I would much rather they keep Herzlich and dump Dillard. Or, keep both and dump an extra OL, but that in and of itself is unlikely as 9 OL seems to be the Coughlin standard. If they want to have Bear as an H-back again they could dump Hynoski for the extra spot but I'm not too sure about that either.

If Osi didn't get his damn knee scraped out, they could probably just go with 4 DEs. Also with Prince out until October if another CB goes down I think they might have to make another roster move since having only 3 active CBs could be killer.</font>

[Team Sheep]

This is the Texans' year. Whether the Colts get a wildcard or not, then who knows.

[FearedSanctity]

So much for "Tebow is the 4th best QB on the roster" eh? Fucking idiots

Brady Quinn completed 4-of-12 passes for 26 yards and one interception against the Cardinals in the preseason finale.
It was a brutal performance in Quinn's first Denver start. He continues to look better in practices than games whereas Tim Tebow does the opposite. Tebow completed 7-of-11 passes for 116 yards and a 43-yard touchdown pass to Erron Riley to cap off a 94-yard passing drive in the fourth quarter. Quinn finished the preseason 22-of-42 (52.3 percent) for 276 yards (6.6 YPA), and a 2-2 TD-to-INT ratio. The much maligned Tebow ended up 20-of-31 (64.5 percent) for 310 yards (10.0 YPA), and one touchdown. It's clear who the primary backup should be.

[Innovator]

DAMMIT VITO HERZLICH WILL MAKE IT

[RP]

Sweater Vest with the Colts now? Kinda like it a lot. They should give him Caldwells job.

[RP]

Whenever you can get a national championship coach as a replay review consultant, you have to do it.

[DaveBrawl]

So much for "Tebow is the 4th best QB on the roster" eh? Fucking idiots

Maybe Brady should try to get a refund from that qb coach he hired during the offseason.

[RoXer]

I would buy stock in blue sweater vests like right now

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yesssssssssssssss Matt Dodge cut.

Already whispers that he could be headed to the Eagles or Redskins.</font>

[Skippord]

two of the flying Gronkowski's cut today

[SammyG]

Sweet, Mardy Gilyard cut. Seriously, he is retarded. Can not learn an offense to save his life, and his kick/punt returns sucked ass.

[Innovator]

Yesssssssssssssss Matt Dodge cut.

Already whispers that he could be headed to the Eagles or Redskins.
Oh god I hope he goes to the Eagles.

[FearedSanctity]

Eron Riley gets cut despite being Denver's leading non-starting WR, but Mitch Unrein who's done less than nothing gets a spot. The fuck?

[FearedSanctity]

And to make it worse, Riley had 5th most receiving yards in the NFL this preseason, Unrein had 3 tackles and an assist. Seriously, come on

[Skippord]

yeah, pretty annoyed with that

at least they cut noted date rapist Perrish Cox

[FearedSanctity]

Dunno, I'm a sucker for low end WRs, so every year I'm bound to get pissed off at cut time

Triandos Luke
Darius Watts (:mad:)
Todd Devoe
Matt Willis, but at least he's sticking
etc.

[Skippord]

I feel you, Eron Riley looked pretty awesome this preseason

also he has a badass name

[FearedSanctity]

Enron Riley

[Emperor Smeat]

Patriots expected to cut S Brandon Meriweather while RB Sammy Morris confirmed to be cut. They also got rid of S James Sanders and WR Brandon Tate to go along with some lesser names.

Morris wasn't a shocker considering he's been hurt most of the time and Tate never could adjust to Belichick's system even during the last 2 preseasons.

Meriweather was decent at Safety but Belichick loves Jared Mayo soo much he gave him the captain tag over the entire defense since last year. Ironic thing is Pats wanted Vernon Gholston in the 2008 draft but the Jets took him just so BB wouldn't have his top player and instead went with Mayo as the Plan B pick ... Gholston ended up getting released while Mayo is seen as one of the best young LB in the NFL.

[Evil Vito]

DAMMIT VITO HERZLICH WILL MAKE IT

<font color=goldenrod>That he did.</font> :love:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Looking around the league to see if any interesting players were cut. I'm expecting Jake Ballard and either Michael Coe or Derrick Martin to ultimately be cut in favor of a new TE and DB.

The Giants somehow were able to put Sage Rosenfels on IR for strep throat...but that means his $3 million cap hit still takes effect.</font>

[SammyG]

lol @ trying to trade Donnie Avery but no takers.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bears picked up Brandon Meriweather in a 1 year deal, no amount on the deal was revealed. Probably won't be a starter based on ESPN's analysis and how the Bears already announced their starters at the spot before the deal was done.

Patriots signed G Brian Waters to beef up the depth and quality on the offensive line.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Kinda wanted the Giants to pick up Meriweather...but I figured they wouldn't. Dude made the Pro Bowl two years running, so I'm assuming he was a huge douchebag to warrant getting pushed down the deoth chart and released. Belichick and Coughlin have the same mentality on dealing with players' bullshit.

Andre Brown and Adrian Tracy both have cleared waivers and will be on the practice squad. Happy about that.</font>

[Droford]

Andre Gurode signed a 1 year deal with the Ravens and will start vs the Steelers at Center with Matt Birk still recovering from meniscus surgery

[SammyG]

Wow why would NYJ pick up Mardy Gilyard. Dude is retarded.

[DrA]

<font color=goldenrod>Kinda wanted the Giants to pick up Meriweather...but I figured they wouldn't. Dude made the Pro Bowl two years running, so I'm assuming he was a huge douchebag to warrant getting pushed down the deoth chart and released. Belichick and Coughlin have the same mentality on dealing with players' bullshit.</font>

Never, ever, ever, ever, make that assumption about a player in professional sports. A player's "behavioral issues" are almost always a media contrivance, pretty much like everything else in modern sports.

[Crimson]

Cowboys coulda used Meriweather -_-

O-line and secondary are huge concerns for me. Romo will need an MVP-esque season if they have any superbowl chances

[SammyG]

Maybe another surgery for Manning. RP suicide watch.

[RP]

Manning will play.

[RP]

If this shit is true, they need to call Favre right now

[RP]

Honestly the Colts act like they've never seen Collins play. He sucks.

[RP]

No way Collins start s over Painter. Painter has the confidence of his teammates.

[Requiem]

2nd surgery thing was confirmed as untrue by Polian. It was just some random radio broadcast that had no truth behind it.

[Droford]

CUT THAT NECK! CUT THAT NECK!

[RP]

Man I just got cock teased with a interesting Pacers team this season and then they lock out, then I sit through a horrible Cubs season and now I may be sitting through a bad Colts season.

[Requiem]

you make me angrier than even the most die-hard patriots fan because you are the most bi-polar colts fan i know

OMG GONNA DO AWESOME
OMG WE'RE GONNA SUCK
NAH JK GONNA BE AWESOME NOW THAT "RANDOM PLAYER #14" IS HERE
UGH NOW WE'RE GONNA SUCK AGAIN

[RP]

you've been a Colts fan for two years or something. Shut the fuck up. You don't even know what you're talking about most of the time. I'm just nice enough not to point it out.

[Reavant]

lol... rp sound more like an ACTUAL fan. Living in chicago and having to deal with the bears and cubs, thats exactly what a die hard fan sounds like.

[Requiem]

you've been a Colts fan for two years or something. Shut the fuck up. You don't even know what you're talking about most of the time. I'm just nice enough not to point it out.


blah blah blah, broken record. this has nothing to do with me. the second peyton manning is back in the game you're gonna be predicting a super bowl run and it's gonna be the same thing all over again. and then if they lose a game, you'll be talking about how worried you are. rinse and repeat. some new player gets signed, and it instantly means all your worries from before are gone and they're going to make it to the playoffs now when before, they weren't.

what does the way he acts have to do with being an 'actual' fan? last time i criticized a decision the colts made, RP acted like he was the only one allowed to have an opinion. and before when i argued that bob sanders wasn't worth the roster spot or the money he made because he never played, RP sucked his dick like it was going out of style, and then guess what, the colts ended up dropping him.

i thought a real fan could criticize their team while still having faith in them to pull through, instead of just jumping on every useless media story that comes along. it's not like the colts are having 'real' issues like some teams. there's nothing to be genuinely worried about, with management, coaching, or players. sure caldwell leaves a little to be desired, but there's no reason to think he is not capable of repeating his first season. and when manning is gone, they'll probably have some issues for a while. but for now, manning will be back, and if his health is solid, they will make the playoffs. anything else is useless conjecture.

[Requiem]

and yes, i've heard the countless chiefs fans talk endless shit on their own team, and then turn around and start cheering them the second they start doing good. i 'get' it. but that's a team that has had serious issues and has given them reason to be doubtful.

ie; unless manning himself starts having the worst games ever, there's no reason to act like the sky is falling every other week. have a little faith for once. you seem to me like one of those people who would leave a game when they're down for the count at halftime, only to miss the comeback because you thought it was as good as over.

[RP]

i thought a real fan could criticize their team while still having faith in them to pull through, instead of just jumping on every useless media story that comes along. it's not like the colts are having 'real' issues like some teams. there's nothing to be genuinely worried about, with management, coaching, or players. sure caldwell leaves a little to be desired, but there's no reason to think he is not capable of repeating his first season. and when manning is gone, they'll probably have some issues for a while. but for now, manning will be back, and if his health is solid, they will make the playoffs. anything else is useless conjecture.

Yah you're right Ill Duce . No real issues. Its not like there's a good possibility that Peyton might miss several games and the Colts will have to oil Kerry Collins joints to start a few games or anything.

What am I worried for? No real issues here!

[RP]

I've tried to not say this for a while, but...


You're fucking stupid

[Requiem]

really doubt he will miss more than 1 game. 2 AT MOST. the sky is not falling.

[Requiem]

also, suck my dick. your whole 'been nice enough not to say anything' was a joke anyways. don't act like this is the first time you've said anything to me. any time you disagree with me, you've been "nice enough" to tell me I'm a fucking idiot every time. moron.

[Requiem]

think you'd rather have them do terrible so you can be right, than actually hope they don't have problems and be disappointed later

[RP]

Well atleast you realized you were an idiot. That's the first step.

[Requiem]

but if that's what being an ACTUAL fan means, then fuck that noise. i'll gladly be a 'fake fan' who actually looks at things objectively and sees the positive.

it's like in all the things on tpww, people see that i am a cynical asshole and i take grief for it, but in this one thing people expect me to be a pessimist because that's what it means to be a REAL fan, and the fact that i'm not means i'm somehow less genuine than all of you. yeah ok.

[RP]

I think ever since you've become a Colts fan, they've been cursed. You're that guy. I might need to start my own colts thread.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

WHAT IS HAPPENING IN COLTS LAND?!?!?!

[RP]

I think anyone that knows my history the last seven years on this board, knows I'm a real colts fan

[RP]

You on the other hand, pulled the old Samuel G , woke up, saw the Colts won the Superbowl and said " oh yah! Im a fan of them!".

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I dunno mannnnn. I see you talking about the Colts non stop, but I just don't FEEL it, you know?

[Requiem]

nobody said you aren't a fan. you are however, a huge crybaby.

oh, sorry i guess i wasn't clear enough on that in the first place. i'll state it again just in case you missed it.

you're a crybaby

[RP]

You're black cock sucker

[Requiem]

You on the other hand, pulled the old Samuel G , woke up, saw the Colts won the Superbowl and said " oh yah! Im a fan of them!".

i guess it's just easier for you to throw that one around though instead of actually making a credible argument.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Requiem calls Taint Whisperer a crybaby.

[Requiem]

things are upside-down in this thread, certainly

[RP]

i guess it's just easier for you to throw that one around though instead of actually making a credible argument.

No. I'm positive its well documented in a thread because I remember supreme giving you a ton of shit about it.

[Requiem]

alright guy. except that's not how it resolved, and jeritron eventually conceded that he was wrong about the way he treated the situation, and we enjoyed actual conversation about the sport. i'd ask you to make your own opinion, but it's clear you'd rather just bandwagon onto someone else's opinions because you can't make your own by looking at the whole picture. (see what i did there) i've stated my case pretty thoroughly in that thread, and elsewhere about my own personal life.

i can deal with people thinking i'm a bandwagon jumper, because i know i'm not. you're the one sitting here crying and slinging insults because you can't take a little criticism about your opinion. not my fault that you've been observed flip-flopping every time some new thing comes up.

[Requiem]

going to bed, so i'll let you get the 'last word' after i'm gone and think you've one-upped me because i'm "nice enough" to let you get sloppy seconds on something i've finished with and worn out

[Reavant]

blah blah blah, broken record. this has nothing to do with me. the second peyton manning is back in the game you're gonna be predicting a super bowl run and it's gonna be the same thing all over again. and then if they lose a game, you'll be talking about how worried you are. rinse and repeat. some new player gets signed, and it instantly means all your worries from before are gone and they're going to make it to the playoffs now when before, they weren't.

what does the way he acts have to do with being an 'actual' fan? last time i criticized a decision the colts made, RP acted like he was the only one allowed to have an opinion. and before when i argued that bob sanders wasn't worth the roster spot or the money he made because he never played, RP sucked his dick like it was going out of style, and then guess what, the colts ended up dropping him.

i thought a real fan could criticize their team while still having faith in them to pull through, instead of just jumping on every useless media story that comes along. it's not like the colts are having 'real' issues like some teams. there's nothing to be genuinely worried about, with management, coaching, or players. sure caldwell leaves a little to be desired, but there's no reason to think he is not capable of repeating his first season. and when manning is gone, they'll probably have some issues for a while. but for now, manning will be back, and if his health is solid, they will make the playoffs. anything else is useless conjecture.

and yes, i've heard the countless chiefs fans talk endless shit on their own team, and then turn around and start cheering them the second they start doing good. i 'get' it. but that's a team that has had serious issues and has given them reason to be doubtful.

ie; unless manning himself starts having the worst games ever, there's no reason to act like the sky is falling every other week. have a little faith for once. you seem to me like one of those people who would leave a game when they're down for the count at halftime, only to miss the comeback because you thought it was as good as over.
dude... calm the fuck down.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

This could actually be a pivotal season in Requiem's fandom. If the Colts are terrible this year and he doesn't jump ship, he can officially shed his bandwagon label. Talk about a reason to root against the team, eh Req?

[Reavant]

lol

[Reavant]

so whats up with carson palmer?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

he's a man of his word I guess

I haven't heard a peep out of him since he said he was going to reitre

[Reavant]

if he reported to the team, they would have to pay him though even if he didnt play

[Innovator]

I guess we'll see what the Giants have this week. If they shit the bed against the Redskins, it's gonna be a long season.

[SammyG]

You on the other hand, pulled the old Samuel G , woke up, saw the Colts won the Superbowl and said " oh yah! Im a fan of them!".
What? Are you attempting to call me a bandwagon fan?

[Emperor Smeat]

Jaguars will release David Garrard and make Luke McCown the starter at QB.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

And the Andrew Luck sweepstakes has a new frontrunner. Tough break, Gabbert.

[Evil Vito]

Jags could probably get a boatload from a team wanting to trade up to #1.

Anyway, the owner has said that Del Rio is gone if they don't make the playoffs. Guess he should start looking for possible college vacancies.

[Innovator]

In the most recent episode of As the Giants Fall

Johnathan Goff out for the year, ACL. 6 starters out from the starting defense.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Un.fucking.believable.

4 torn ACLs in one preseason.</font>

[Skippord]

clearly God Hates Giants

[Innovator]

This is just funny now, everyone blow out their ACLs, let's set a record here.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hey now, Kawika Mitchell is being brought back. Super Bowl = confirmed</font>

[SammyG]

Aaaand Peyton is out officially.

[Ermaximus]

Jags could probably get a boatload from a team wanting to trade up to #1.

Anyway, the owner has said that Del Rio is gone if they don't make the playoffs. Guess he should start looking for possible college vacancies.

Good, I want that faggot gone. He's a terrible fucking coach. Letting Coughlin goes was one of the biggest mistakes Weaver ever made.

With Garrard gone now, that clears up another $5 mil leaving the Jaguars $30 million under cap. SIGN SOME FUCKING WR's YOU RETARDS!

[Innovator]

No Giants tore their ACLs today.

[CSL]

Jason La Canfora talking up Manning being out until at least October on Total Access rn

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JO2OK5G8gZI/SOZWyy_nd_I/AAAAAAAAAUI/EExUmjaZUmE/s320/collins_mug3.jpg

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Eli Manning is now the new Iron Man among QB's. He's on pace to break the streak in Week 3 of the 2023 season.</font> :shifty:

[Gonzo]

Good, I want that faggot gone. He's a terrible fucking coach. Letting Coughlin goes was one of the biggest mistakes Weaver ever made.

With Garrard gone now, that clears up another $5 mil leaving the Jaguars $30 million under cap. SIGN SOME FUCKING WR's YOU RETARDS!

I remember reading a few columns that said Coughlin has a bell curve with success in teams he coaches. Not sure about his BC record, but it seems to have held true in Jax and NY.

I'm kind of hoping Coughlin calls it quits after this season and the Giants can find someone else.

[CSL]

Chris Johnson doesn't appear to actually talk, he just kind of makes slurring noises that sound like words

[Skippord]

yeah he needs all the money he can get

[Requiem]

Jason La Canfora talking up Manning being out until at least October on Total Access rn

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JO2OK5G8gZI/SOZWyy_nd_I/AAAAAAAAAUI/EExUmjaZUmE/s320/collins_mug3.jpg

Jason La Canfora is a fucktard. He didn't even have Peyton Manning on his list of top players in the NFL, because he has Tom Brady's dick so far up his ass. All the other broadcasters tore him a new one for being such an idiot when he revealed his list.

[CSL]

I see

[Supreme Olajuwon]

even bandwagon Colts fans know Peyton Manning should be on a list of top players in the NFL

[Nark Order]

Oh 49ers. Jesus fucking Christ.

Hate how they act as if Alex Smith is going to "turn it on" at any given moment. They also act like he's in his second year in the league and that he deserves some slack. This is his 7th fucking year.

Ugh. Hey, we will probably beat the Seahawks though.

[Nark Order]

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/jayxsoprano/motovation/motivator2.jpg

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

XXL my ass.

[Boomer]

Looking forward to the shootout tomorrow (today).

[RP]

i thought a real fan could criticize their team while still having faith in them to pull through, instead of just jumping on every useless media story that comes along. it's not like the colts are having 'real' issues like some teams. there's nothing to be genuinely worried about, with management, coaching, or players. sure caldwell leaves a little to be desired, but there's no reason to think he is not capable of repeating his first season. and when manning is gone, they'll probably have some issues for a while. but for now, manning will be back, and if his health is solid, they will make the playoffs. anything else is useless conjecture.

THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT HERE!!!!!!!!!

[owenbrown]

It's only week 1 it's a little early to be hitting this....

http://www.benshoof.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/panic_button.jpg

[ClockShot]

Forbes put out their list for most valuable NFL franchises. #1 is the Cowboys at $1.85 billion. At the bottom, the Jacksonville Jaguars at $725 mil.

Here's a link to the full list.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/30/nfl-valuations-11_land.html

[Reavant]

Jason La Canfora is a fucktard. He didn't even have Peyton Manning on his list of top players in the NFL, because he has Tom Brady's dick so far up his ass. All the other broadcasters tore him a new one for being such an idiot when he revealed his list.

Because his thoughts on top players has to do with him talking about a guys injury.... brian billick is saying the same thing about him being out so calm down

[Requiem]

It's terrible that so many people are retarded enough to confuse speculation with fact. At the time, it was pure speculation based on nothing but media blitzes from people who had no source to back their claims of all these surgeries and wild claims, as if they were 'the first to break a story' when no one had given them the means to do so.

Now you can start worrying.

[Nark Order]

I heard that when Peyton gets back, he's going to sign with the 49ers.

:shifty:

[CSL]

It's terrible that so many people are retarded enough to confuse speculation with fact. At the time, it was pure speculation based on nothing but media blitzes from people who had no source to back their claims of all these surgeries and wild claims, as if they were 'the first to break a story' when no one had given them the means to do so.

Now you can start worrying.

yeah, people were just making wild claims that he'd be out a while and just happened to get lucky today. Not like guys like La Canfora and Schefter and so forth have a million sources across the league or anything.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Requiem For A Scheme

[Reavant]

It's terrible that so many people are retarded enough to confuse speculation with fact. At the time, it was pure speculation based on nothing but media blitzes from people who had no source to back their claims of all these surgeries and wild claims, as if they were 'the first to break a story' when no one had given them the means to do so.

Now you can start worrying.

LMAO

Do you think they just dreamed it up? They got the info from somewhere, and now the owner of the colts is saying hes going to be out for a long time.

[Domino]

It's gameday folks. WHO DAT!

[RP]

I just want to say that Requim is a dumb shit and he needs to stfu now. Thanks.

[Requiem]

cry more, sweet cheeks.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Justin Tuck might not play on Sunday. lol this is just ridiculous.</font>

[Reavant]

and yes, i've heard the countless chiefs fans talk endless shit on their own team, and then turn around and start cheering them the second they start doing good. i 'get' it. but that's a team that has had serious issues and has given them reason to be doubtful.

ie; unless manning himself starts having the worst games ever, there's no reason to act like the sky is falling every other week. have a little faith for once. you seem to me like one of those people who would leave a game when they're down for the count at halftime, only to miss the comeback because you thought it was as good as over.

dude... calm the fuck down.


you and a dozen other people on this forum resort to the same tired old 'calm down' when you've got nothing useful to say, and when nothing the person said was remotely close to a spazz, because you're useless for anything but cheap heat

:rofl:

[Reavant]

cry more, sweet cheeks.

yup rp is the one crying

[CSL]

you and a dozen other people on this forum resort to the same tired old 'calm down' when you've got nothing useful to say, and when nothing the person said was remotely close to a spazz, because you're useless for anything but cheap heat

wow

[Gonzo]

Can we kick Requiem out of the thread for the year? I don't want to read this shit all season.

It's like fucking VEL/RP all over again.