WWE 12

[D Mac]

Q: When does the game release?

A: Novermeber 22nd

[D Mac]

Q: Will there be a Commentary team for Smackdown this year? Cole, Mathews, Booker T?

A: The commentary team for WWE '12 is Michael Cole and Jerry "The King" Lawler.


Gay, again.

[Cuzziebro]

Q: Will there be a Commentary team for Smackdown this year? Cole, Mathews, Booker T?

A: The commentary team for WWE '12 is Michael Cole and Jerry "The King" Lawler.

What's the bet they haven't changed the commentary at all?

[LuigiD]

I like how the guy keeps saying "We want to do that! but...for next year"
The WWE games would greatly improve if they release a title every other year. Never going to happen but its a nice thought.

[Tommy Gunn]

Nothing stopping you from buying it once every 2 years.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh come on, they couldn't even answer whether or not there'd be a 40 man Rumble?

I feel like if there wasn't, they would have killed the hope right then and there.</font>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh come on, they couldn't even answer whether or not there'd be a 40 man Rumble?

I feel like if there wasn't, they would have killed the hope right then and there.</font>

They're answering Q's as they go, so probably saving some of the most asked ones until later.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I like how the guy keeps saying "We want to do that! but...for next year"
The WWE games would greatly improve if they release a title every other year. Never going to happen but its a nice thought.

Nothing stopping you from buying it once every 2 years.

While true, they could probably add even more if they took a break themselves.

I'm hoping that Create a Finisher has the same features as standard finishers, as in the physics and moving them for position. They were lacking a bit last year.

[LuigiD]

Nothing stopping you from buying it once every 2 years.

Already do that. The only way that I can "sort of" enjoy the game.

[Shisen Kopf]

I hope there is a Create a Cena mode. I really miss the orange shirt and the john Deere green shirt. John Cena is the hulk hogan o this generation without the ruining of shirts.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Updated the Q&A post above with new questions/answers which are in red.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Q: If you get the Gameplay as you want it this year, will it remain unchanged with added features next year?

A: This is a difficult question to answer. We are always looking to make substantial improvements to gameplay. Now that we have new technology in the game, we have a lot more opportunities to push the limits of what we can do in gameplay. The team has a long list of improvements we want to make ranging from animation quality improvements, to new gameplay functionality, and implementating new gameplay strategies. So the short answer to this question is 'no'. We are always going to look to build upon what was fun and what work while also looking to add new gameplay features that make the WWE experience as authentic and, most importantly, fun as possible.

Good, considering they got "happy" once and ignored the gameplay for the features.

[D Mac]

Seeing a lot of "This is a good idea we will think about it for future games" bullshit. :n:

[D Mac]

They should have had all those ideas brought to them already.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

For the most part, they should've already thought of them themselves.

Q&A #3
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[Funky Fly]

Guys, if you are going to post 20 minute videos, can you at least sum the shit up for those of us who have things like jobs and girlfriends?

[Lara Emily]

What do they mean when they say no Smackdown Superstar nameplates?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

They add a splash of colour to them depending on the wrestler.

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[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Guys, if you are going to post 20 minute videos, can you at least sum the shit up for those of us who have things like jobs and girlfriends?

In the next Q&A, I'll sum it up under the vid.

Q&A updated in red with the previous reds turned to black.

As for the Q&A, one piece of bad news is that there won't be pinning combos from diving moves like Gabriels 450 Splash and Bournes Shooting Star Press, but Ledesma hinted it as a possible DLC if time is on there side.

[Xero]

What? No pinning top rope moves? The fuck?

[Kalyx triaD]

Hmm...

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

That was my reaction to it as well, how could there be no time to add them to aerial moves, yet make a few new moves with them?

[Kalyx triaD]

Three steps forward, two steps back.

[LuigiD]

that is fucking bullshit. If there is time do it as a dlc? bahh

[XL]

Three steps forward, two steps back.
That pretty much sums up the franchise as a whole.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If they've reanimated them all, I'm all for it. If they haven't bothered, there's no excuse.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

What? No pinning top rope moves? The fuck?

They didn't have it in the last game either.

They seemed to really fuck up with the pinning option last year.

They added the ability to go into a pin on certain moves like power bombs and suplexes, which was great. As a trade off though, they seemed to get rid of ALL other pinning moves, including top rope pins, school boys, small packages, etc.

[Tommy Gunn]

I miss school boys.

:shifty:

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

FAQ updated again.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

FAQ updated.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Q&A #4
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Q&A #4 Highlights


Maybe before SummerSlam we get roster/preorder related info
Stamina is now Adrenaline and the Adrenaline will deplete preventing running if legs are damaged
Irish-whipped is a different story, you'll be sent into the ropes running regardless of adrenaline
Falling down running while out of adrenaline is fixed, you'll simply walk until it rises again
Move interrupts will acted the same regarless of strike/running strike/grapple
There's a time limit in interruping moves meaning after the move gets to a certain point, it can't be interruped
Main Eventers arn't the only ones with the Comeback ability as not all of them do, low-tier superstars that know how to "WRESTLE" have good comeback moves
All Royal Rumble elimation button mashing is GONE to combat against turbo controllers, instead they are using the existing mini-game time/guessing based like the turnbuckle style
Roster is pretty much the size of last year with big name superstars and cool legends
Cory went on record saying it's one the best rosters they've had and dlc will expand on it

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Move interrupts will acted the same regarless of strike/running strike/grapple

Godammit. Back to DoR2 after 2 weeks on this game again then.

[Kalyx triaD]

Small price to pay for what seems like the most ambitious Smackdown game in a while.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Small price to pay for what seems like the most ambitious Smackdown game in a while.

It's beginning to sound like last year was the most ambitious and this is just a few tweaks. That physics engine was a great addition, now we just have moves that can only be interrupted one way and little tweaks here and there.

I have realised that I interpreted it like there's one interrupt move so everyone involved in the move is suddenly in the right animation (ie he was picking him up for a piledriver, but when the moves interrupted, it's suddenly a bodyslam or something), but it could be one type of interrupt per move, which could be tolerable.

Just hoping that now they've gotten rid of teleporting moves, they don't replace them with teleporting interrupts.

[Funky Fly]

Yup. Still on the fence here. My November is starting to look pretty stacked here, so they better get their asses together.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Q&A #5
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Highlights


Pre-order Bonus currently set to be announced next week(This Thursday)
Roster to be released SummerSlam weekend as well as Triple Threat match to show off move interrupts
Match starts fast and slows down the longer it goes/the more damaged you are the longer you stay down in an attempt to mimic how it is on tv
When cashing in the Money in the Bank Briefcase the Champion will start off the bout damaged
New blood tech, free flowing blood dripping from face to chest(no idea if it stains mat)/Blood is defaulted "Off" in Options
First Blood Match not removed after fighting tooth/nail to keep it as well blood in general to remain in
Agressive AI, AI memembers it's actions(no more picking up weapons then dropping them instantly)


From Ledesma's twitter

Met with HHH yesterday at Comic-con. He had great ideas for the future of #WWEgames. As acting WWE CEO, he's getting to work fast. #WWE12

Matches are much more difficult now in #WWE12. So much so that our QA team is complaining about how difficult the game is. Looking good!!

[Xero]

If the QA team is complaining, they're probably going to tone it down.

[Tommy Gunn]

I hope they fix it so that cashing in MITB doesn't completely skip the championship match proceeding it.

[XCaliber]

I hope they fix it so that cashing in MITB doesn't completely skip the championship match proceeding it.

Agreed this used to bug the heck outta me.

[dronepool]

So far this games looks just like the last 3 games, I was watching those gameplay videos and the movement is stiff and looks like nothing really change, I don't get the reason behind the renaming.

[Kalyx triaD]

The devil's in the details.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

From a previous Q&A I think, THQ said the gameplay has changed a bit from the most recent videos. It flows more fluidly. For us to determine that, however, we'll need to wait for when they show off a more recent build as they talking about their current build(I.E. not the one we've seen).

[Funky Fly]

So far this games looks just like the last 3 games, I was watching those gameplay videos and the movement is stiff and looks like nothing really change, I don't get the reason behind the renaming.

It is getting better. Dunno if you played last year's game but tons of stuff got reanimated, a proper physics engine was added (it was buggy but still an improvement) and top rope moves were improved (not all the way fixed).

The physics look less buggy this time and moves don't teleport you around any more. I'm still on the fence and leaning towards skipping it, but I will pick it up if I see more improvement as time goes on.

[PorkSoda]

I don't think I'm sold on this game.

Unless they do a WWF No Mercy style 1 player mode or a HCTP season mode.....and i can do an all CAW season.....I might be sold.

I think I'm losing interest in video games in general. I bought All Stars and played for like an hour or so and havent touched it for a few months.

[Drakul]

I think I'm losing interest in video games in general.

I think that depends on what games you're playing. Try something new. Not another FPS or wrestling game (unless it's very different from the genre norm). Try a genre or series you've never tried much before, you might enjoy that.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

More teasing from Cory Ledesma

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
#WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12) Pre-order info coming in just 2 days!! Must-have content. We also have a killer video that supports the announcement. Can't wait...?

19 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/95919088890679296) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
#WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12) Roster Reveal is coming!! Just 18 days away... Live from SummerSlam Fan Axxess! Huge roster, DLC news, mystery teasers! Get ready!

18 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/95924082163458048) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
We're aware of all the new titantron + music updates that recently happened on WWE. We'll try our best 2 get them in but its very late 4 us.

10 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/96051871281717248) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
@WWE (http://twitter.com/WWE) created an awesome opening movie for #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12). Just like the openings seen on Raw and SmackDown, but themed for #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12). Looks amazing! And YES! #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12)has its own theme song. We're official!

10 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/96052458882740224) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
I can't show the video now of course because it will reveal the roster. But we'll release it after the roster reveal at some point. #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12)

10 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/96053077764882432) via web

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just get one new Titantron and mini-tron in and we'll sort any last minute "licensing issues" over music.

I think we know the tron I'm talking about.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Actually, screw it. I'll just get the PS3 version now I've seen you can do this on a jailbroken PS3.

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(You can do it on a 360 as well, but unless it's JTAG'd, you'll have to waste a disc everytime you change one)

[LuigiD]

The Modding Community for the SVR series has sure exploded since last year. My PS2 SVR 2010 roster has over 150 characters. Good deal.

[Cool King]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

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Nah, I'm cool.

[Xero]

"Oh, hey. Let's take a guy who's been in every fucking SmackDown! game and make him exclusive/DLC this year."

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

To be fair, every game since HCTP has had 'Classic Rock', so this is kind of new. Plus I preorder this every year anyway, so it works out okay

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

I've pre-ordered it every year myself, later today I'll find out if I am for sure or depending on the pre-order bonus.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
If u pre-order at GameStop u get @TheRock (http://twitter.com/TheRock) and @mikethemiz (http://twitter.com/mikethemiz) alt. attires. Double the pre-order bonus!! Awesome way to go! #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12)

7 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/96574170174984192) via Twitter for iPhone (http://twitter.com/#!/download/iphone)

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Who wants to wager that The Rock's alt attire is 'Classic Rock', just like the last however many years...

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

No doubt that's what it'll be.

@Joshmert (http://twitter.com/#!/Joshmert) Josh :]
@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/RealCoryLedesma) What about UK? #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12)

16 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#!/Joshmert/status/96575829617807360) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma @Joshmert (http://twitter.com/Joshmert) yes UK as well!! It's worldwide!

12 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/96576703756898305) via Twitter for iPhone (http://twitter.com/#!/download/iphone)

So everyone, regardless of region seems to get current Rock.

[LuigiD]

lol The Rock. So excited, totally didn't see that one coming :roll:

[Xero]

They need to get Demolition in the game.

[LuigiD]

If Macho Man is in..this is a guaranteed purchase for me pretty much.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If Macho Man is in..this is a guaranteed purchase for me pretty much.

Legit question, does the roster really matter that much that you would purchase a game based on it? I dunno, to me that's like the people who gobble down those terrible Marvel games Sega keep putting out because of the license.

[LuigiD]

I was semi-joking. For me the roster matters a little. For WWE 12 it seems like not enough has changed for me to justify a purchase. There is some things that I am interested in but just not enough. However, if it had an amazing roster..I would be more inclined to consider buying it.

[XCaliber]

Finally... Hollywood Rock has come back to console gaming!

[PorkSoda]

Maybe they should throw in The Rock as Rocky Maivia. Back when he had blue trunks and that.....striped thing he would wear.

[Disturbed316]

Looks like the Rock Bottom has been reanimated.

[Syney Aradi]

I might buy WWE' 12 to see if they've made any good changes to the dreaded Universe mode & RTWM mode

[Kalyx triaD]

You're going to buy a game to see if it's worth buying?

[captaincharismark]

Looks like the Rock Bottom has been reanimated.

It looks like everything from his character model to his Rock Bottom has been redone...

[DAMN iNATOR]

You're going to buy a game to see if it's worth buying?

C'mon, dude...haven't you ever heard the old saying..."Buy before ya try!" ? :shifty:

[captaincharismark]

C'mon, dude...haven't you ever heard the old saying..."Buy before ya try!" ? :shifty:

That works with WWE 12, cause you know what you're getting. The same SD engine with some minor gameplay tweeks and more extra features. Not necessarily a good strategy though for games if you've never tried them. Hope you keep your receipts if you're serious about that motto...

[Extreme Angle]

This was the last game I bought without any clue what it was like...
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I was <8 and thought the cover was 'cool'.

[FearedSanctity]

That game was weird as fuck

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Q&A #6
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Highlights


New Signature/Finisher reversals for some specific superstars
Reversal windows are consistant everytime you use the same moves/harder difficulties decrease the in which you'll be able to reverse
Surfboard Stretch does have the Breaking Point Submission Meter but you can't crawl to the ropes to break it but it you can with the Boston Crab
The higher the difficulty, the more agressive the AI is and the higher their reversal window is
When you're pinned on the harder difficulties, you have a small window on filling the meter
Appearently, THQ's best Player is losing 50-60% of the time on the Smackdown Difficulty
Running Apron Attacks fixed
Lower Card superstars have mo-capped moves not just the Main Eventers
Appearnt "Cool" DLCs this year to be announced at SummerSlam along with the roster/including Legends
Working on getting Moveset/Entrance/Anything animation wise DLC

[Joe Kerr]

They should add online updated roster support. I remember 2010 shemaus was champ but not in the game :(

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
Current plan for #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12) Roster Reveal: Planning to reveal the entire roster including unlockables, but no DLC.. That will be revealed later.

17 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/99216949426401281) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
To be clear, that's unlockable characters. There will also be one mystery Superstar on the roster that won't be revealed until Sept. #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12)

17 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/99217350884212736) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
#WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12) Roster Reveal will be on August 13th live from SummerSlam Fan Axxess. THQ and WWE websites will have the video feed. More info coming

17 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/99217739129958400) via web

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>A lot are guessing that the DLC character will be Sin Cara. Would be pretty gay if he didn't make the roster out of box seeing as his debut was hyped for months and he debuted the night after WM. Plenty of guys have gotten into past games debuting shortly after WM.

It would only make sense if they took extra long on him so he could mo-cap moves.</font>

[Funky Fly]

They should just get the wrestlers to mocap all their own signature moves and entrances.

Last yeah, they left MVP's old animations even though they brought him in and had him redo some of his stuff. Even though the original mocapper did the moves perfectly, the difference with and without MVP's personal touches was amazing.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Here we go again with the same old line about improved AI. Hopefully this year it's actually true and not just BS.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Screw it, I'll go ahead and do a roster prediction since the reveal is on Saturday. Last year's game shipped with 66 playable characters on the disk, plus it's been said that Hurricane was intended to be playable and Carlito was still buried on the disk somewhere. So I'm gonna use a cap of 68.

Raw
Alberto Del Rio
Alex Riley
Beth Phoenix
Big Show
Brie Bella
Chris Masters
CM Punk
David Hart Smith
David Otunga
Dolph Ziggler
Drew McIntyre
Evan Bourne
Eve
Gail Kim
Goldust
Husky Harris
Jack Swagger
John Cena
John Morrison
JTG
Kelly Kelly
Kofi Kingston
Maryse
Mason Ryan
Melina
Michael McGillicutty
The Miz
Mr. McMahon
Nikki Bella
Primo
Rey Mysterio
R-Truth
Santino Marella
Triple H
Vladimir Kozlov
Zack Ryder

SmackDown
Alicia Fox
Chavo Guerrero
Christian
Cody Rhodes
Daniel Bryan
Edge
Ezekiel Jackson
The Great Khali
Heath Slater
Justin Gabriel
Kane
Layla
Mark Henry
Michelle McCool
Natalya
Randy Orton
Sheamus
Sin Cara
Ted DiBiase
Tyson Kidd
Undertaker
Wade Barrett
William Regal
Yoshi Tatsu

Legends
Booker T
Bret Hart
Diesel
Jerry Lawler
Shawn Michaels
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Trish Stratus
??? (Token Random Playable Character ala the Druid)

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No real glaring omissions this year. Guys like Curt Hawkins, Trent Barreta, etc. could get in at the expense of guys like Primo and David Hart Smith, but I'd give the edge to people who were in last year on principle. Only reason they'd make the changes is if they were looking at the roster disbursement at Mania time and purposely tried to give SD some extra jobbers to even out the rosters slightly (kinda like how Vance Archer got in last year since ECW wasn't dead yet when the rosters were finalized).

I'm sure I put too much logic into the Legends selections by picking mostly people who have been on TV during the year. Doubtless some of those guesses are wrong. Also there's said to be a character that won't be revealed until September but I have no clue who would be "important" enough to warrant the special attention.</font>

[LuigiD]

Remember the Rock was already announced this year also.
Seems like a solid list. Like the legends list..the hopeful in me wishes that Macho Man makes it in as a tribute. I don't know if guys like Husky Harris or Mason Ryan will make it in..I hope they do I just don't know.
Wouldn't surprise me if Sin Cara makes it in..even if it is just as a downloadable character.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Rock is DLC, I was strictly listing people that might ship with the disk.

If Cara isn't in, it'll probably just be Tyler Reks or something.</font>

[Tommy Gunn]

I wonder if they'll bother changing CM Punk's music? I guess it depends if they can get the rights sorted out as it isn't an original WWE produced track. Last year they managed to squeeze in Rhodes' 'Smoke and Mirrors' track and tron quite late in production, which leaves me hopeful.

If not, there's no reason they can't release Punk's current shirt/gear as DLC, seeing as we can just download Cult of Personality and change his music ourselves.

I've traded in SVR '11 now, so by November I'm going to be really excited for a new WWE title. I know they never change much, but last year's physics system combined with an updated roster and new version of Universe mode has me pumped.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

I wonder if they'll bother changing CM Punk's music?

I'm not sure if it's Punk they fixed, but

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
We got some updated music and mini-trons in the game today. Boy, I wish I could tell you who they are for... #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12) delivers!

17 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/100694224206434304) via web

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Posted on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 8:37am.
Hey guys,

We will not be doing a Q&A this week due to orders from WWE Chairman of the Board, Triple H. He stated - "Look fellas, next week is Summerslam, the 2nd biggest PPV in all of WWE next to Wrestlemania, and you guys will be blowing WWE '12 out of the water with your live roster reveal at WWE Axxess on August 13th at 1PM streamed online free for the world to view at http://wwe.thq.com and of course my home: http://www.wwe.com, and not to mention tons of other coverage and reveals coming out the following week. I also know you guys are producing a Triple Threat video showcasing 3 of the greatest current WWE Superstars (I should be in it, but i'll let it stand for now), and you're aiming to release that by the end of next week to set the stage for Summerslam and all that is to come after. In light of this, I'm ordering you to stand down on your weekly Q&A for one week. The WWE Games universe will survive a weekend because, hell, what's better than building a little anticipation."

In light of this, Triple H also demanded we teach you, the WWE Games Universe, more about the intricacies behind the process of making WWE '12, and we have to agree, this is critical to understand. Thankfully @RealCoryLedemsa complied with a blog that will give you a crystal clear explanation of the yearly process we go through in development. So without further adieu, and by order of the WWE Chairman of the Board, check out our latest production blog, and our sincere apologies for no dev Q&A this week - but orders are orders!

credit - community.smackdownvsraw.com

So with that, no Q&A for last week.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>- A source at THQ reports that designs have been created for Brock Lesnar to appear in the new WWE '12 video game. So far there is no talk of Lesnar appearing on WWE TV or doing anything WWE-related to promote the game.</font>

[LuigiD]

Brock Lesnar Road to Wrestlemania :shifty:

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
#WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12) Roster Reveal at 1pm PST(4pm EST) this Saturday!!! Check it out live at SummerSlam Axxess or via THQ website.

18 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/101388588255678464) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma We're announcing the new Create Mode this Saturday night at the #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12) Preview Event! Also, showing multi-man matches. Press only.

18 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/101388976946028545) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
Road To WrestleMania, Universe and other Create Mode news wont be released until later. We still have until November to release everything.

18 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/101390575613378562) via web

and a joke tweet

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
@mikethemiz (http://twitter.com/mikethemiz) makes me yawn not cry. #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12) Roster Reveal will get you pumped for the best WWE game to date. @mikethemiz (http://twitter.com/mikethemiz) rating = 75

11 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/101496098648104960) via Twitter for iPhone (http://twitter.com/#!/download/iphone)

[Xero]

Brock Lesnar Road to Wrestlemania :shifty:

Better be a Shooting Star Press match in that.

:shifty:

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
Since we're announcing so many Superstars and we dont have much time, we're only showing small clips of their entrance. #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12) Roster Reveal

14 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/101793412080082944) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
Some entrances will have old or placeholder movies and trons since we captured the video a while ago. We will update the videos afterwards.

14 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/101793801953218562) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
We'll post the entrance videos on the THQ WWE website sometime after the reveal so you can see them all. #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12).

14 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/101794198549823488) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
I believe we're revealing a total of 62 Superstars, Divas and Legends at the Reveal. Mystery Superstar and DLC announced later. #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12)

14 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/101797444274241536) via web

@RealCoryLedesma (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma) Cory Ledesma
Most common mystery Superstar predictions we get: Goldberg, Brock Lesnar, Mick Foley, Sin Cara, and Edge... #WWE12 (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WWE12)

14 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#!/RealCoryLedesma/status/101802326767042560) via web

Some people are dumb thinking that Edge isn't already on the roster, if he isn't on Smackdown they'll just move him into the Legends section.

[Xero]

I have to assume that Lesnar is the "Mystery Superstar".

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

As would I, imo it'll be him or Foley as he is throwing rumors that we can play as one of his 4 faces. On top of saying Dude Love and Zack Ryder would be Best Broski's.

[Evil Vito]

lol @ the roster total actually going DOWN from last year. guessing my predicted roster is spot on then, minus a few jobbers.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Don't see an issue with the roster shrinking. More focus on the remaining wrestliers.

I won't cry if Johnny Curtis doesn't make it, for instance.

[Evil Vito]

Not a big deal, just surprising that they'd make cuts with the graphics having downgraded. But anyway, need to make some cuts on my predicted roster. Gonna go ahead and guess that Sin Cara actually doesn't make it, but will be DLC.

As for the other 5 cuts - I'm gonna wish JTG, David Hart Smith, Primo, Goldust, and William Regal the best in their virtual future endeavors.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Actually wait, forgot to account for the mystery Superstar - so I'll spare Regal and leave him in for another year. They might also just leave out the entire New Nexus (except for Punk obviously) and leave everybody in. The Spirit Squad treatment, if you will.

And this pic makes me mark out:</font>

http://i51.tinypic.com/2wmm6op.jpg

[XCaliber]

The default roster maybe smaller but maybe there aren't any useless characters like The Druid and for all we know there could be twice as much DLC as there was last year.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Actually, thinking about it - the 62 person roster might not include Kozlov, Masters, Smith, Chavo, Melina, etc.

They've done this reveal for 2 years now and they've always just ignored people who were released even though they're still in the game.</font>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The default roster maybe smaller but maybe there aren't any useless characters like The Druid and for all we know there could be twice as much DLC as there was last year.

Yay, cut out roster and make it all pay-for DLC....

Might go vomit somewhere.

[Tommy Gunn]

DLC for guys who missed the WM deadline is all cool with me. What sucks ass is when they take people off of the main roster and hold them back to get more money out of us.

For instance, Layla has been in the SvR series for years, but last year they held her back to be in the DLC packs for NO GOOD REASON. Cunts.

[Xero]

Wasn't all the DLC on the disk last year?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nope. From what I've heard, the only character "buried" on the disk was Carlito, who was in but removed because of his Wellness firing. There's also hints that Khali is buried in there since he's referenced in RTWM on the white match board, not sure why they'd have removed him though.</font>

[whiteyford]

Wasnt Hurricane there too,or was that the previous year?

[Extreme Angle]

Hurricane was on the game, just not playable, pretty sure he was originally meant to be though...

[Xero]

<font color=goldenrod>Nope. From what I've heard, the only character "buried" on the disk was Carlito, who was in but removed because of his Wellness firing. There's also hints that Khali is buried in there since he's referenced in RTWM on the white match board, not sure why they'd have removed him though.</font>

90% sure at least Bret and Taker were on the disk, and I'm pretty sure someone found Bulldog and Luger. I think someone released screens and videos of all the DLC long before it was released because they hacked everything to be playable. Could be wrong, though.

[Gerard]

Actually, screw it. I'll just get the PS3 version now I've seen you can do this on a jailbroken PS3.

<object width="425" height="349"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xzCQTYXs-ts?version=3&amp;hl=en_GB"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xzCQTYXs-ts?version=3&amp;hl=en_GB" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="349" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

(You can do it on a 360 as well, but unless it's JTAG'd, you'll have to waste a disc everytime you change one)



The annoying thing about that is it wouldn't be that difficult for them to implement something like that into the game officially, would just be a matter of utilising a specific file format and video dimensions and bunging them onto a flash drive and importing the videos.

They'd probably claim it was copyright issues though preventing them doing it. :nono:

[BizarroKing]

<font color=goldenrod>Actually wait, forgot to account for the mystery Superstar - so I'll spare Regal and leave him in for another year. They might also just leave out the entire New Nexus (except for Punk obviously) and leave everybody in. The Spirit Squad treatment, if you will.

And this pic makes me mark out:</font>

http://i51.tinypic.com/2wmm6op.jpg

EPIC!

Wonder if Kharma will be in it...and Vickie, I mean surely wwe would let her appear in one game at least I would think.

[Drakul]

Jerry "The King" Lawler and WWE superstar "The Miz" will in a couple of hours reveal the full roster of legends and superstars for WWE 12, live from Summerslam Fan Axxess at 4 p.m. EDT. You can follow it though this live streaming link (http://www.justin.tv/wwegames).

[BizarroKing]

so it didn't start yet?

[Drakul]

1PM PST. I think thats 9pm UK time.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, another hour.</font>

[CSL]

never understood why in some games they have voiceover guys put like half of the "emotion" they would into it in real life. Only just checked out Del Rio's entrance for example and Rodriguez announces him like they're in a library or something

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, they totally blew it with Del Rio's entrance.

Anyway, Alex Riley is in and is one of the 12 playable characters at Summerslam Axxess. Apparently he has his new tron as well:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/imgly_production/1738389/large.jpg

Far left screen - though the lighting makes it look like he's wearing a speedo.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Create-An-Arena was apparently announced at Axxess as well.</font>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Honestly don't know if people are being serious in the chat.

Tackett1986: God I Hope Cena is in it.

[Xero]

Stream has started.

[Xero]

PUNK IS IN THE GAME!? GET OUTTA HERE!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Stream has stopped.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Punk tron and music IS IN <3

[Xero]

HE HAS CULT OF PERSONALITY!

[BizarroKing]

He has his new entrance!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The animation is smooth as fuck now, nice little bits of selling too.

[Xero]

Did people really prefer the buttons? I vastly preferred the analog stick.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>No Nexus armband on Punk. Wonder if this is an alt or something. May not bode well for the rest of the group being in.</font>

[Xero]

The animation is smooth as fuck now, nice little bits of selling too.

Yeah, the animation is awesome. And the graphics look good. The camera still bugs me when it shakes, though. But not as bad as that first video from a few months ago.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hope they can hurry up with this. Gotta leave in a bit.</font>

[Xero]

<font color=goldenrod>No Nexus armband on Punk. Wonder if this is an alt or something. May not bode well for the rest of the group being in.</font>

Doubt it's an alt. If anything, the Nexus armbad will be the alt. Seem that they're pushing in getting things updated this year, much more than years prior.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Did people really prefer the buttons? I vastly preferred the analog stick.

I, for one, prefer buttons.

Also, I'm liking some counters. Not seen too many generic counters yet.

[taker707]

did i miss it ?

[BizarroKing]

You guys notice the changing logo in the corner? From "WWE Live" to some sort of TV like the "Classics on demand" logo?

[Xero]

lol at the 5 moves of doom being in.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

5 moves of doom comeback! Countered on the second shoulder bump.

Also, super-finishers. More powerful versions of regular finishers.

[Xero]

You guys notice the changing logo in the corner? From "WWE Live" to some sort of TV like the "Classics on demand" logo?

Pretty sure that's for the highlight reel, denoting when a spot is being saved for a replay.

[Xero]

The ropes are a lot better this year and react much more realistically.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Daniel Bryan having his own comeback in the game is awesome.</font>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm loving the finisher taunt while they're lying down and they get up slowly to it to grab them when they're up.

[Xero]

Wake up taunt was awesome.

[Xero]

Exit theme.

[BizarroKing]

PUNK WINS!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Larger belt too. Looks like they've done a lot of work to fix the main complaints.

[Xero]

That's clearly a current Punk skin. Pretty sure they'll do some work on his face before it's released.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

GTS was reanimated, which was pretty awesome. I'm assuming DB's comeback will involve his corner backflip, clothesline duck, flying elbow combo.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Also digging that there are apron taunts now. Makes waiting for the opponent to get up better.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Get on with ittttt.</font> :(

[Xero]

Boy Toy... Chico...

[#BROKEN Hasney]

GTS was reanimated, which was pretty awesome. I'm assuming DB's comeback will involve his corner backflip, clothesline duck, flying elbow combo.

Which can then be combo'd into signature (probably a kick to the chest while they're on their knees) to labelle lock.

[Xero]

I wonder if Cody will have the mask.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Stream down. Nice one JTV.</font>

[BizarroKing]

try reloading

[Xero]

In Living Color is trending.

Which is for the show. :$

[Tommy Gunn]

Watching a stream of people watching a big screen full of commercials, great fun.

[Cool King]

Is the stream only on for an hour? :-\

I heard the guy say that when the Roster Reveal Event ends at 2pm that we can check out the website.

[Xero]

lol random fan shots.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fuck this. About to just wait for the list to come out.</font>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Beginning to look like a WWF No Mercy titantron.

[BizarroKing]

Getting better...also, THE MIZ!

[Xero]

God I hope that fucking duck/flailing animation for Miz isn't in. Hate that.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, smooth now, just audio and video well out of sync.

[Cool King]

The quality of this stream really isn't that great.

It's out of sync and it's constantly sticking and when you choose to watch it full screen, it's quite pixelated. :-\

[Xero]

lol if someone yelled "Macho Man is dead".

[Xero]

Also, the stream is working fine for me. Try refreshing and choosing the HD resolution.

[Xero]

Oh, wait, it is out of sync.

[Ermaximus]

LOL Living in the past. Stop doing it!

[Xero]

lol at Ted being in the "top 20".

[Xero]

Regal looks awesome.

Husky, interesting.

Cody has the mask, awesome.

[Ermaximus]

THE MASK!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

CM Punk Chant

[Cool King]

Todd: Husky Harris!

Miz: Who?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL none of the Nexus guys have armbands.</font>

[LuigiD]

Surprised Husky and Ryan are in. Very cool.

[BizarroKing]

LOL We got

-R-Truth with his awesome entrance
-Cody Rhodes with mask
-Husky Harris, Mason Ryan, and Otunga!
-RYDER!

[Xero]

I have a feeling there's an angle coming here.

Might make Miz's match here.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I'm surprised Golddust and Regal both made it in.

I'm assuming McGillicutty will be in too... I wonder if we'll end up getting Kaval? Probably not.

[PorkSoda]

I haven't watched wrestling for a few months

What is R-Truth's awesome entrance?

[Tommy Gunn]

Todd Grisham back chatting the Miz, how dare he.

[BizarroKing]

I haven't watched wrestling for a few months

What is R-Truth's awesome entrance?

THE TRUTH.....SHALL SET YOU FREE...*cue silence*

[Xero]

Anderson!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>OMG NASH</font>

[Xero]

VADER!!!11!! AND NASH!

Oh shit, Demoltion!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

AA, LOD, Vader, Nash, Booker, Eddie, Demolition, Edge...

I might actually use some legends this year.

[LuigiD]

wow..holy shit..nice legend list.

[CSL]

wow these legends, especially Demolition and their full garb and WWE Nashdown

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Incredible Legends list</font>

[Ermaximus]

NASH, BOOKER T, AA.

I'm sold!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Hopefully there's some more legends though, would kill for The Outsiders now.

[Xero]

Can't wait for this "mystery" superstar. Quite possibly the best legends roster ever.

[Xero]

Nice, Sin Cara made it.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Aw, no Hall :(

[Ermaximus]

Lol no Khali again. No Alicia Fox this year.

[Xero]

Turn the music down douchebags.

[Tommy Gunn]

CM Punk's face looks low-res and unfinished, wheras R-Truth and Wade Barrett look life-like.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Miz is probably eating an RKO by the end of this.

[LuigiD]

Very impressive roster so far..damn. Supposedly they won't even release the "hidden" characters and downloadables..mad excited for that too. damn.

[Cool King]

I knew Edge would be a Legend in the game. Great Legends list though.

The character models are looking really good this year too.

I'm still having major problems with the stream though. :-\

[Xero]

CM Punk's face looks low-res and unfinished, wheras R-Truth and Wade Barrett look life-like.

Yeah, like I said, they're probably going to do work on him before release. It's current Punk, and they only had like 3 weeks to work on him.

[Tommy Gunn]

No Bellas, Alicia Fox, Melina.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

lol, what? Orton saying it's a travesty that Michael McGuillcutty can't be Joe Hennig.

[Ermaximus]

Fuck Melina.

Randy likes Kelly Kelly. Wonder why? Maybe because he fucked her?

[Xero]

lol, that was awesome on Orton's part.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Orton beard pop!

[Ermaximus]

Is Orton drunk?

[Xero]

His beard is nothing like Mike Knox's.

[Drakul]

<font color=goldenrod>Create-An-Arena was apparently announced at Axxess as well.</font>

I've been waiting for it to return since Attitude had it. I wonder how in depth it is.

Think we'll get to use our created arenas online? Or maybe upload them for others to download.

[BizarroKing]

LOL round of applause for the beard.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Is Orton drunk?

I'm pretty sure he is. It's awesome.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

With Sin Cara making it, I wonder who will end up being DLC? Usos? AJ/Kaitlynn?

No Bellas, no Gail Kim (unless she's in, but not shown since she's released.)

No Baretta, Hawkins, or JTG (which is odd, since he was in the last games.) Hopefully some of Baretta's moves made it in at least.

[Xero]

"I'll see you Macho Man" lol.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I'm assuming Scott Hall/ Razor Ramon, and HBK will definitely be DLC.

[CSL]

lollll Trips

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Gave someone the finger on the way out. PG IS DEAD!!!11!!!111

[Ermaximus]

Did Orton flip that guy off?

[Cool King]

The camera caught Orton flipping someone off. :lol:

[Xero]

So Lawler will be announcing his own matches.... lol.

[Xero]

Where's this "mystery superstar" bullshit?

[CSL]

Gave someone the finger on the way out. PG IS DEAD!!!11!!!111

Did Orton flip that guy off?

The camera caught Orton flipping someone off. :lol:

it was Triple H, he ran over to the barrier to get try and get a hand-tag from Orton

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I love that people are whining about the roster. 95% of the current WWE roster is in the game.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I love that you think genuine discussions about the roster reveal is 'whining'.

I don't think he's talking about here...

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I love that you think genuine discussions about the roster reveal is 'whining'.

Pretty sure people in the "chat" where the video is streaming saying things like "THis roster fucking sucks!" "What?!? Only 60 wrestlers?" etc, is whining. That's not genuine discussion. Genuine discussion implies logic.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I don't think he's talking about here...

Nope, talking about the whiners in the chat.

[BizarroKing]

What about the "mystery superstar"?

[Tommy Gunn]

Oh, my bad, me and my shame will exit the thread stage left.

[Xero]

Wait, I thought they were going with three different covers?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

What about the "mystery superstar"?

Not revealed until September. Which has led some people to think it's Foley.

[Cool King]

So The Miz is really 70?

Santino was 65 in SvR11.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

80% of the roster revealed allegedly.

[BizarroKing]

I'm voting for "The People's Edition" Oh but it seems there's also gonna have different stuff in whichever gets chosen?

[Cool King]

Turn the music down douchebags.

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RiX4FAQC9cg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Doubt I'll be getting that collectors edition then.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Kozlov and Chavo are also in (listed on the site.)

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If 11 was anything to go by, can't wait to lazybomb people on the steps.

Hoping Nash's phoenix splash is his super-finisher.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I'm checking out some videos, and it looks like they broke up Rey's finishers finally. There's a move that places them on the ropes, the 619, and then after the 619, the player can control him on the apron.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm checking out some videos, and it looks like they broke up Rey's finishers finally. There's a move that places them on the ropes, the 619, and then after the 619, the player can control him on the apron.

Yeah, they said quite early that moves like that will be broken up... And no more teleporting, thank god.

[Drakul]

TPWW needs it's own arena in the CAA mode.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>14 Superstars in the COMING SOON area. We know one will be the mystery superstar to be revealed in September.

I'd venture to guess that some of those spots are selectable managers, Hornswoggle, maybe Paul Heyman to go along with Brock. Otherwise that could be a seriously huge DLC pack.</font>

[Joe Kerr]

Surprised hbk didn't make the legend cut but Austin and rock still have.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Uhhhhh yeah, so apparently when Ledesma said 80% of the roster was revealed, that was factoring in DLC. He announced that with the exception of the September mystery reveal, the other 13 ? spots are all DLC - all legends and divas.

So between Rock being pre-order, Lawler being DLC, and the other 13 DLC spots - there is already more DLC this year than last year. But in exchange for that, the game will ship with about 10 less people as last year. Given that some of the DLC will probably be returnees from last year like the Bellas, Alicia, and HBK...that's kinda gay.</font>

[XCaliber]

No Tyler Reks this sucks. :(

[Purgatory]

Wow, Ax & Smash made it!!

[PorkSoda]

So can someone post a list of the roster so far?

I read Ax, Smash, Kevin Nash and that's it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>SMACKDOWN
Chavo Guerrero
Christian
Cody Rhodes
Daniel Bryan
Ezekiel Jackson
Heath Slater
Justin Gabriel
Mark Henry
Randy Orton
Sheamus
Sin Cara
Ted DiBiase
Tyson Kidd
Undertaker
Wade Barrett
William Regal
Yoshi Tatsu

RAW
Alberto Del Rio
Alex Riley
Big Show
CM Punk
David Otunga
Dolph Ziggler
Drew McIntyre
Evan Bourne
Goldust
Husky Harris
Jack Swagger
John Cena
John Morrison
Kofi Kingston
Mason Ryan
Michael McGillicutty
The Miz
Mr. McMahon
Rey Mysterio
R-Truth
Santino Marella
Triple H
Vladimir Kozlov
Zack Ryder

DIVAS
Beth Phoenix
Eve
Kelly Kelly
Layla
Maryse
Michelle McCool
Natalya

LEGENDS
Arn Anderson
Booker T
Demolition Ax
Demolition Smash
Eddie Guerrero
Edge
Kevin Nash
Ricky Steamboat
Road Warrior Animal
Road Warrior Hawk
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Vader

DLC
Jerry Lawler
The Rock (pre-order bonus)</font>

[PorkSoda]

Edge as a Legend........

I'm happy that Ax, Smash, and Vader are in.

Mr. Wonderful, Rick Martel, King Kong Bundy, Yokozuna, Earthquake, Greg Valentine, Rick Rude are Legends I would like to see.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Well, Edge might be on the SmackDown roster in the game - and I'd be shocked if he's not involved in RTWM.

But they introduced him with the other Legends, so they might have switched him over to there.</font>

[BizarroKing]

Uhhhhh yeah, so apparently when Ledesma said 80% of the roster was revealed, that was factoring in DLC. He announced that with the exception of the September mystery reveal, the other 13 ? spots are all DLC - all legends and divas.

So between Rock being pre-order, Lawler being DLC, and the other 13 DLC spots - there is already more DLC this year than last year. But in exchange for that, the game will ship with about 10 less people as last year. Given that some of the DLC will probably be returnees from last year like the Bellas, Alicia, and HBK...that's kinda gay.

Well if it's all Legends and Divas then Hornswoggle probably won't count and since it's DLC Melina and Gail might not be included...just saying.

Predictions:
The Bellas....(sigh)
Tamina
Alicia Fox
AJ
Vickie Guerrero
Kharma (you never know)...otherwise Rosa Mendez
Sunny (again, never know)
"Macho Man" Randy Savage
Razor Ramon/Scott Hall
Bret Hart
Diamond Dallas Page or "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan
Shawn Michaels

Also, if the rumors regarding Brock are actually true, maybe he's the mystery superstar?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's a very strong roster either way. Even though the game is shipping with a smaller roster than last year, most of the cuts were divas (5 less than last year) who I NEVER use...plus guys like Primo, JTG, and DH Smith who I would seldom use anyway. I utilize certain jobbers a lot, but they aren't among them. HBK will probably be DLC but until then his non-inclusion is more than made up for by the Legends.

Hell, I normally don't even like the Legends and prefer using current guys...but the crop of Legends they picked for this year changes my opinion.</font>

[Triple Naitch]

Alex Riley looks like he has tourettes in his entrance.

[Lock Jaw]

THANK GOODNESS HUSKY HARRIS MADE IT IN

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I'm a little sad JTG didn't make it in. I actually used JTG and DH Smith a lot in the past games. I'm pretty sure Smith was supposed to be in too, since Natty has his suplex (stalling suplex where he does squats.)

[Xero]

Nattie does the stalling suplex with squats. Didn't even know Smith did it.

[LuigiD]

Does anyone really care about the Divas?
I mean, I think in the history of SVR games I have never used a Diva unless it was required during career mode or something. Don't know..don't really care Alicia Fox and the Bellas are missing. In fact, I would have no problem if all the Divas just got replaced with legends or additional guys.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Nattie does the stalling suplex with squats. Didn't even know Smith did it.

I think he did it when he first debuted. I could be wrong though. I know I've seen someone do it that wasn't Nat. But if she's doing it now, it was probably made for her. Slick move nonetheless.

[Tommy Gunn]

I sometimes use the divas as managers, and sometimes play as them, but mostly I want them there to make the overall game experience feel authentic.