Black Ops 2

[El Fangel]

I loved being called a camper by dumbasses who think I couldn't see the red dot on the radar heading my way :D

[The Destroyer]

Still useful as fuck, considering the UAV spam and the fact that a ton of people don't seem to use it.
Yeah there's ludicrous amounts of UAVs cropping up. It's why I often pack a launcher, just to pick up easy an easy 75 points here and there.

[The Destroyer]

Actually managing to have some fun playing this now. :y:

[El Fangel]

Going to pick this up later this evening. Will be on all night, send invite to Badwolf582 if you want to play.

[LoDownM]

I give it a week before you say you are selling it.

[Pintint]

Figured out that in order to bind keys to the number pad, you have to hit num lock.
Retarded, but whatever, now I can actually play.

[Emperor Smeat]

Treyarch announces they are investigating and working on a solution to the leaderboards issue although no timetable on when it will get fixed since they only started looking into the problem earlier today.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/treyarch-investigating-black-ops-2-leaderboard-issues/

[El Fangel]

Have to wait until tomorrow now, oh well.

[Splaya]

I will ask again. Are any of you guys playing on PS3

[El Fangel]

I believe only a handful of people on here have a PS3 and Black Ops if any.

[LoDownM]

Pretty sure you are already on my friends list Splaya, we are just barely on at the same time.

[El Fangel]

Fucking Fuck. Went out in the cold to get it and the guy has the copy but for PS3.

Fuck.

[The Destroyer]

You are doomed to never get this game.

[El Fangel]

I'm heading to Eb Games. Ill have this today damnit.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

On the edge of my seat.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Anyway, done with the updates.

Hmm

[El Fangel]

Something just occurred to me and I have no idea how to get it answered but here goes.

If Treyarch had of wanted to, what would be the possibility of releasing the included maps as DLC instead of on disc?

Reason I ask is because I wonder why they haven't taken advantage of the fact they have dozens of maps from previous games that dont get used anymore.

Think if they made an online store to purchase certain old maps by your choice would be pretty swell.

Only issue I can think of is matchmaking.

[LoDownM]

Don't give Activision any terrible ideas FA...

[El Fangel]

Its not a bad idea, they would just turn it into one.

Was thinking how long its been since I played Ambush, Crashed or Downpour.

[LoDownM]

They would have to be reskinned first, cold war era stuff wouldn't fit the "futuristic" look of the game.

[El Fangel]

Don't know how much work that would encompass but perhaps a poll to include the fan favorite from each game. I miss shooting range from Blops. Probably my favorite map in CoD besides Wasteland.

[El Fangel]

My fucking xbox just died when I tried to start playing.

http://i.imgur.com/Uin1u.jpg

[Miotch]

Ahaha. That, friends, is what you call karma.

[alvarado52]

Fucking Call of Duty! When are they gonna fix that bullshit!? I'm trading this in for some 6 year old game!

[The Destroyer]

Told you you'd never get to play it.

[El Fangel]

Ahaha. That, friends, is what you call karma.

Told you you'd never get to play it.

Got it working, tested a match and heading online.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Is your wife safely ensconced in her panic room?

[El Fangel]

Is your wife safely ensconced in her panic room?

Nope, I forgot. Waiting for the ambulance.

[El Fangel]

Is this bootcamp thing against other peeps or coms? If real people, then I applaud it.

[El Fangel]

Ghost at 55...Thankfully a preset class has it.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Might actually get this on Wii U rather than PC when I see it a bit cheaper. The fact that one player can play on the gamepad while the other is on the TV and jump online together is just such a fucking great thing.

[El Fangel]

The level of customization is beautiful, really enjoying this so far.

Only thing that I have found annoying is the spawning on Hijacked and lack of Ghost til later.

[El Fangel]

Ghost will be the first thing I carry over, this is brutal.

[El Fangel]

Dat Swat-556.

[The Destroyer]

I'm too reliant on full auto bullet spraying, I can never get used to 3 bullet burst guns in any game.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Lag smacks you much harder for burst-firing guns as well I think. I don't find them to be worth the hassle.

[El Fangel]

I'm too reliant on full auto bullet spraying, I can never get used to 3 bullet burst guns in any game.

The only issue I have with them is when I am rushed or surprised in which case I am screwed like 95% of the time.

Lag smacks you much harder for burst-firing guns as well I think. I don't find them to be worth the hassle.

Lag has been awful in some games I have played, went 1-15 before hosts got switched.

Also, trying to knife people has been pointless for me. Possibly due to the lag.

[El Fangel]

Incase you gents haven't noticed, shock charge + betty is money.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He's had the game for one day.

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[El Fangel]

Congratulations, I post a lot in this thread.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

A shitload.

[El Fangel]

Yes, is that an issue since I am not complaining a bit?

[Blitz]

Ghost will be the first thing I carry over, this is brutal.
Not getting Ghost till 55 has made me such a better player. Never realized how much of a crutch I was using it as.

[The Destroyer]

I hate shock charges and bouncing bettys. Always run into the bloody things.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Go into a room while crouching, they can stick their bouncing betty up their arse.

People who use them as grenades, that's a bit irritating.

[LoDownM]

I always run Flak Jacket, when it's unlocked anyway, if I prestige again it's getting perma unlocked, so betty's are a non issue most of the time.

[El Fangel]

The SOC spawn on carrier has you getting spawn trapped from the start. Either that or I am doing something wrong. Haven't won a game on that side yet.

[El Fangel]

Not getting Ghost till 55 has made me such a better player. Never realized how much of a crutch I was using it as.

I am inclined to agree, though I would value not showing up on the minimap over any perk.

[The Destroyer]

Go into a room while crouching, they can stick their bouncing betty up their arse.

People who use them as grenades, that's a bit irritating.
I hadn't even thought of crouching or going prone to avoid them. Just have to see if I can do it quickly enough once I hear the trigger noise.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I crouch anywhere I think they are usually set, normally where snipers set up. Sometimes you can even kill a sniper with their own betty if you time it properly.

[El Fangel]

I hadn't even thought of crouching or going prone to avoid them. Just have to see if I can do it quickly enough once I hear the trigger noise.

Not tryin to be a dick, but if you go into a room not crouched you are doing it wrong.

1) What EGG just said
2) No noise
3) Smaller target

[alvarado52]

So as usual my k/d has plummeted due to me being bored with a single gun. Got my ghost perk back, andii'm never letting it go.

[El Fangel]

I think I have used the Swat the last 20+ matches. Love it with reflex and dual mag.

[The Destroyer]

Not tryin to be a dick, but if you go into a room not crouched you are doing it wrong.

1) What EGG just said
2) No noise
3) Smaller target
It's not even rooms I run into them in, it's all over the bloody place. Not been killed by one in a while though.

And despite saying I was reliant on full auto, managing to do quite well with the semi-auto FAL OSW.

[Blitz]

I want the FAL select fire, but good God am I bad with semi auto rifles. More puzzling still since I usually do fine to good with pistols.

[Blitz]

Also tried a knife monkey build and just got perpetually slaughtered. Dunno how people do it.

[alvarado52]

The fal fires rapidly enough with the trigger, the auto fire of it is fairly pointless

[El Fangel]

That 3 shot pistol is tits on my sniping class.

Also convinced the knife doesn't do anything. Treyarch just included the animation for shits and gigs.

[El Fangel]

Oh and I love the laser sight for SMG classes.

[The Destroyer]

It does plenty. You just need to be very, very close.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The game has been virtually unplayable for me this evening. It's fucking dreadful. At times I'm being shot by people round corners before I can possibly even see them, then the replay shows me dawdling out in front of them like I don't have a care in the world. People are literally seeing a full second or two ahead of me in some games.

[Pintint]

The game has been virtually unplayable for me this evening. It's fucking dreadful. At times I'm being shot by people round corners before I can possibly even see them, then the replay shows me dawdling out in front of them like I don't have a care in the world. People are literally seeing a full second or two ahead of me in some games.

You might be getting old

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I wish, then I could just retire and not just hope things will be better in the next game.

[Pintint]

I wish, then I could just retire and not just hope things will be better in the next game.

You already have the next game. It's just with different skins and guns.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

That's not what I meant by next game.

[El Fangel]

It might be your connection, try turning off or disconnecting what you can when you play.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I never thought of that. Thanks Fallen Angel. Can't wait to try it later.

[El Fangel]

Not a problem, glad to have helped.

[El Fangel]

Its amusing to see people without Ghost, shows how much they rely on it. I'm still doing really good despite it.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I wonder why they did away with the regional match-making anyway, I'm a bit fed up of being turfed into games with French/German/Spanish/Italians gibbering away on their mics. I would prefer to be matched up to people in the UK and Ireland. I like the little touch of opening up the mic of the person you just killed but it loses its effect with foreigners.

[El Fangel]

I love the LMG + Quickdraw + Target Finder

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I wonder why they did away with the regional match-making anyway, I'm a bit fed up of being turfed into games with French/German/Spanish/Italians gibbering away on their mics. I would prefer to be matched up to people in the UK and Ireland. I like the little touch of opening up the mic of the person you just killed but it loses its effect with foreigners.

That's pretty dumb. Probably explains some of your extra lag in this game compared to the others too if they're less local.

[The Rogerer]

I wonder why they did away with the regional match-making anyway, I'm a bit fed up of being turfed into games with French/German/Spanish/Italians gibbering away on their mics. I would prefer to be matched up to people in the UK and Ireland. I like the little touch of opening up the mic of the person you just killed but it loses its effect with foreigners.This seemed to be the case on PS3 in the past. Playing Battlefield 1943 or Uncharted 2 online always had you in with the french.

Theoretically you'd expect a game to look for worldwide games and then pick the ones with the best lag, which logically would be close to you, but it could be that they're just ignoring that and throwing everyone into a Euromix.

I have a PSN account that's registered as US to get access to their store and I signed in to play Blops 1 on it once. Literally heard a "YEEEEHAAAWW" over the mic, so it seems they're going for region over lag and so want to lump all the eurosocialists together. There should be no shortage of local people to play with. Is their maybe a setting to prioritise connection speed? I know some games have that.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I have it set to best connection to try to get games where theoretically I should have the best ping rate possible (in BO1 this was "locale only"). I'm usually playing with a 15-18 Mb/s download rate and a 1.6 Mb/s upload rate and I generally have 4 full green bars in any matches going on and that should be more than enough to have a decent game. See the problem is that unlike MW2, when you knew being host would mean you'd murder everyone, in this it's actually the opposite and being host means it's going to be a battle. I think that the measures they've put in to balance out the ping speeds are basically broken so that invariably people with a worse connection actually do better and it's exacerbated by the bonkers match-making from all over Europe. In MW2 also the match search would tell you it was trawling through games under a certain ping speed. I don't know how this works. The worst part is, much of the time when the game is playable, I know it's probably factoring the other way and I'm being given an advantage over some of the other players. There's genuinely over a second of difference in what players are seeing on their screens and I refuse to believe it's down to my connection being too poor, so I would guess that this is down to a deliberate attempt to help people with shite connections.

[The Rogerer]

I always thought the system from the Modern Warfare games worked great. I can only guess that Treyach have to come up with their own system, hence all the problems with Blops, especially on PS3, and now they've changed it so it's a completely new system. Your connection speed itself is far beyond mine, and knowing you can play other games then the fault would either be shit software or a poor selection of players, and with this being the biggest game in the world, etc, it's not the latter.

[alvarado52]

I love the LMG + Quickdraw + Target Finder

The guy who bitched about thermal scopes is using target finder....

[Blitz]

The guy who bitches about everything is playing COD.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I always thought the system from the Modern Warfare games worked great. I can only guess that Treyach have to come up with their own system, hence all the problems with Blops, especially on PS3, and now they've changed it so it's a completely new system. Your connection speed itself is far beyond mine, and knowing you can play other games then the fault would either be shit software or a poor selection of players, and with this being the biggest game in the world, etc, it's not the latter.

I read some stuff about players being matched on ping but I seem to end up playing a group of Germans or French 90% of the time so I don't know how this could be. Maybe it picks out one person in the lobby who is in Mongolia.

Hasn't stopped me playing it absolutely shitloads as its great when things are going ok. Although I don't believe the stuff about punishing players for stuff, I've backed out more than I've completed matches over this at times plus I back out in the innumerable times the match-making system drops me in some hopelessly lost team.

[The Rogerer]

I've been very close to getting it but I had a couple of very busy weeks when it came out. I've been playing MW2 to keep my oar in, and I don't know if I would play it enough to take the plunge. Black Ops 1 was probably my favourite online play, although it had far more technical problems than the Modern Warfare games.

[Blitz]

Fallen Angel with a clutch play on Raid today. Top notch stuff.

[El Fangel]

The guy who bitched about thermal scopes is using target finder....

I suppose it is just as bad, g
though it was someone elses.

Fallen Angel with a clutch play on Raid today. Top notch stuff.

Please Blitz, You and RoXer saw it. Isn't that enough?

[Pintint]

I prefer they bring back dedicated servers like in COD 2 rather than the lobby huzallo.

[RoXer]

I'm going to hop on again in a little bit maybe if anyone else is on

[RoXer]

RoXer saw it. Isn't that enough?

Nah, gunna render it and post it here

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I've been very close to getting it but I had a couple of very busy weeks when it came out. I've been playing MW2 to keep my oar in, and I don't know if I would play it enough to take the plunge. Black Ops 1 was probably my favourite online play, although it had far more technical problems than the Modern Warfare games.

I'd wait a patch then get it, see if they iron out some of the wrinkles first.

[Crimson]

Nah, gunna render it and post it here

do it.

[alvarado52]

Love love love how you FUCKS never seem to be on when I'm playing. Or if you are, I try joining your room and you're idle.

[Fignuts]

Not a fan of hardpoint.

[alvarado52]

Yeah that type is piss. Its like Drop Zone minus the excitement and getting care packages. Its more like 'go into this wide open space and die'.

[LoDownM]

I like it. Some of my best games have been on hardpoint.

[El Fangel]

Where the hell did you two disappear to last night, Blitz and Roxer?

[Fignuts]

I prefer Domination, CTF, and Sabotage.

[El Fangel]

Was playing Kill Confirmed with Blitz and Roxer last night, wasn't for Roxers 40+ confirms I would never have gotten credit for a kill.

[El Fangel]

Will be on for a bit if anyone wants to play.

[El Fangel]

Absolutely wrecked shit last night, K/D went up by 0.11 from 1.34 to 1.45 :D

Also noticed a flaw/glitch that enemies are made invulnerable by Shock Charges. I had one go off on a guy and it took three shotgun blasts before he dropped.

Anyone else have that happen?

[El Fangel]

Absolutely wrecked shit last night, K/D went up by 0.11 from 1.34 to 1.45 :D

Also noticed a flaw/glitch that enemies are made invulnerable by Shock Charges. I had one go off on a guy and it took three shotgun blasts before he dropped.

Anyone else have that happen?

[El Fangel]

Will be on for a bit

[Fignuts]

Got the Domination capture calling card. Been averaging around 4-7 captures a game. Still losing games because of ass teamates though.

If you've got A and B captured, your best bet is to just hold fast and defend them. But people try and get C, and when they do,it throws the enemy spawn all over the place, and makes it easier for them to take B, which is the key point of the game.

[RoXer]

I'm highly guilty of that but only if I'm on a team I trust and can handle holding down all flags. It shoots me right to the top of our team. I remember two things playing Domination with Alvarado, one time I was the top scorer with 0 kills and god knows how many caps and then another time our team won 200-4.

[Pintint]

Sucking ass at this so far in multiplayer (PC). I was awesome at MW3 but can't seem to get the hang of it now even though it feels like the same exact game. Saw a blatant wall hacker yesterday, he finished a round like 35-1.

[El Fangel]

I've finished 28-1, guess I cheated. :(

[Pintint]

I've finished 28-1, guess I cheated. :(

Nah, that guy was blatant, you could see it if you watched the kill cams, tracking people through walls and crap.

[El Fangel]

You do realize that there is a weapon attachment that does allow that.

[alvarado52]

Im usually on (on right now actually). Re-add me (because you fucks *looking at you Fangel) tend to remove me if I dont play with you constantly.

Pwners Manuel

[Miotch]

Yeah but why the fuck would you want to play with Fangel?

[Crimson]

Anyone else love the blackhat? hacked a sentry and got me like 10 kills in domination

[El Fangel]

Yeah but why the fuck would you want to play with Fangel?

Not everyone thinks I am an asshole? Regrettable really, because I find you a likeable fellow but you don't seem to care for me.

Hurts man, hurts.

Anyone else love the blackhat? hacked a sentry and got me like 10 kills in domination

Need to try it.

[LoDownM]

Blackhat is so overpowered. Captures Friendly and Enemies care packages faster than the person who calls it in does.

[Blitz]

Blackhat is pretty much all I use for my tactical option. Occasionally shock charges. But Blackhat is just so useful in objective games.

[Pintint]

You do realize that there is a weapon attachment that does allow that.

I know, but it was blatant, trust me. Everybody else in the lobby was pissed too, and no, we weren't all level 1.

[alvarado52]

Blackhat is so overpowered. Captures Friendly and Enemies care packages faster than the person who calls it in does.

I do feel they need to adjust the hack times, and maybe even capabilities. That being said, I love the fact that I can still get my care package from a distance.

[El Fangel]

Oh, sorry for quitting man. I couldn't deal with the dumbasses flipping the spawn. 9 spawnkills in a row was enough.

[El Fangel]

What you guys have for your go-to classes?

50 Cal
Remington 8270
Shock Charge x2
Bettie

[El Fangel]

on for a few hours.

[RoXer]

Took a break to eat, will be on later

[Crimson]

What you guys have for your go-to classes?

50 Cal
Remington 8270
Shock Charge x2
Bettie

For tdm/kill confirmed/domination I like run n gunning

MP7 w/silencer
perk 1 Flak jacket
perk 2 Toughness/scavenger
perk 3 dexterity/tactical mask
Betty
No 2nd weapon or tactical items. but it's worked well so far.

[El Fangel]

For tdm/kill confirmed/domination I like run n gunning

MP7 w/silencer
perk 1 Flak jacket
perk 2 Toughness/scavenger
perk 3 dexterity/tactical mask
Betty
No 2nd weapon or tactical items. but it's worked well so far.

Pretty much the same setup, whoever I kill I get their weapon as my secondary. Lottery for Overkill pretty much.

[El Fangel]

Really think that Treyarch nailed it with this. Love this game to be truthful. Few things annoy me about it and its relatively balanced which is great.

Few spawns, Carrier and Hijacked in particular tend to be irritating but that is avoided by playing with people with some knowledge of how the game works.

Besides the absence of a few weapons, I am happy with this. Getting every DLC since I want more maps.

Yes, FAngel plans to buy <I>all</I> the DLC. The end of days is upon us! Sinners repent!

[LoDownM]

It's a little better than MW3, but not as good as Black Ops 1.

[El Fangel]

It's a little better than MW3, but not as good as Black Ops 1.

The maps were better in BO1, If only for Firing Range.

The level of customization in this is exactly what I wanted though. I can make my sniper class insane with the options I have, Even more enjoyable to play it then my MW2 with Barrett/Spas-12.

That and my run and gun has a silenced mp7, with laser and reflex. Lightweight, Extreme Conditioning and a smoke grenade.

[Emperor Smeat]

Next game update/patch to re-enable Theater mode, UAVs will now require more points to unlock, and SMGs might be getting nerfed or at least drop in penetration power.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/black-ops-2-title-update-to-re-enable-theater-mode-tweak-uavs-and-smgs/

[Blitz]

That's lame. The only thing I can think of that should maybe be tweaked is the Remington 870, but even that is negligible.

[El Fangel]

Next game update/patch to re-enable Theater mode, UAVs will now require more points to unlock, and SMGs might be getting nerfed or at least drop in penetration power.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/black-ops-2-title-update-to-re-enable-theater-mode-tweak-uavs-and-smgs/

Oh ffs. Someone must have whined about the game being broken because you can't sit in a corner like a pussy anymore with UAV's always up.

Haven't seen any SMG's that are really OP'd either, MP7 is a maybe I suppose.

That's lame. The only thing I can think of that should maybe be tweaked is the Remington 870, but even that is negligible.

It's a shotgun, it does what shotguns should do which is fuck shit right up at short-mid range. Having said that, I think it may fire a bit too fast.

[alvarado52]

MP7 does need a tweak, either in basic fire rate or damage.

UAVs should NOT be touched. You either have Ghost on, not sit on your ass like a twat, or pack a launcher to shoot it down.

[LoDownM]

No. You shouldn't be forced to use Ghost because of UAV spam. Without scavenger the most you are gonna be able to shoot down is 2, maybe 3, UAVs per life. And the only other option is counter UAV, you know the thing that's supposed to counter UAV spam, and it takes more fucking points than a hunter kill and care package to get. If anything they should switch hunter killer and counter UAV.

Gonna stop now before I turn into Kano.

[Pintint]

I feel BO2 is extremely well balanced and nothing needs to be nerfed at this point.
But then again I only play a maximum of an hour a day...

[RoXer]

No. You shouldn't be forced to use Ghost because of UAV spam. Without scavenger the most you are gonna be able to shoot down is 2, maybe 3, UAVs per life. And the only other option is counter UAV, you know the thing that's supposed to counter UAV spam, and it takes more fucking points than a hunter kill and care package to get. If anything they should switch hunter killer and counter UAV.

Gonna stop now before I turn into Kano.

Yeah this is the direction I'm leaning to tootutu

[El Fangel]

No. You shouldn't be forced to use Ghost because of UAV spam.

The game is better when you have to be aware of where you are at all times, Ill still use the UAV regardless. This decision to leave Ghost to level 55 has separated the shite players from the skilled ones.


Without scavenger the most you are gonna be able to shoot down is 2, maybe 3, UAVs per life.
Your opponents aren't doing it trust me. Be better then them fundamentally and you will tear them apart.

And the only other option is counter UAV, you know the thing that's supposed to counter UAV spam and it takes more fucking points than a hunter kill and care package to get.


So something that provides an enormous tactical advantage to your team should be cheap. Gotcha.


If anything they should switch hunter killer and counter UAV.


No they shouldn't, that would make getting Ghost so late pointless. Some people would use it, but most wouldn't. UAV shows where people are, so that benefits the user primarily since he is on a three or four kill streak. Counter benefits the whole team by giving them. an advantage over the ENTIRE enemy team.


Gonna stop now before I turn into FAngel.

I feel BO2 is extremely well balanced and nothing needs to be nerfed at this point.
But then again I only play a maximum of an hour a day...

This.

[alvarado52]

No. You shouldn't be forced to use Ghost because of UAV spam. Without scavenger the most you are gonna be able to shoot down is 2, maybe 3, UAVs per life. And the only other option is counter UAV, you know the thing that's supposed to counter UAV spam, and it takes more fucking points than a hunter kill and care package to get. If anything they should switch hunter killer and counter UAV.

Gonna stop now before I turn into Kano.

i agree with counter-uav being moved closer, disagree with being 'forced' to use ghost. Dont use it then, and stay on your toes. You pop up on the radar when you shoot a gun, do you feel 'forced' to put a silencer on it?

Also, with two black-hats, you can easily take down 4 UAVs. If you play smart and the map permits it, you can trick people of your position in a two-story building.

Calling something like UAV spam is ridiculous. You still have to EARN that streak.

[El Fangel]

I think the only classes I plan on using Ghost for are sniper and my actual Ghost class.

Too much other stuff worth using I think.

Also, will be on awhile if peeps want to play.

[El Fangel]

Actually, one thing.

Target Finder, if anything at all, has made this game shitty at times.

[Blitz]

Actually had the only game I would qualify as a shitty experience so far tonight. Playing demolition against a team of quickscoping snipers on Nuketown. All they would do was move up, lay down tac inserts, and spawn trap. Didn't even try for the objective.

We ended up winning because they weren't going for the objective. But still awful.

[alvarado52]

I think sniping is something that has been desperately needing of reworking for a long time. Make a head shot a one hit kill and two for the body, and maybe cause a minor stun if doing something ridiculous like hip firing with a big ass sniper rifle.

If I had my way, you would be stunned if you fired without holding your breath with a sniper, but that'sjust me .

[LoDownM]

This game.. This game does not want me to get the Warthog. Always get 1 kill/dogtag/defend/capture away and die while reloading or get killed from behind.

PS3 also got the patch tonight, coming over the weekend for 360.

http://www.videogamer.com/ps3/call_of_duty_black_ops_2/news/black_ops_2_1_04_patch_goes_live_on_ps3_nerfs_smg.html

[Blitz]

Got my first Warthog today and my first Lodestar yesterday (both via care package). Still haven't got a Swarm or Dogs.

[El Fangel]

Fignuts and myself were playing with two randoms I met, had a blast.

[Fignuts]

Had an amazing Tomahawk kill last night.

[El Fangel]

I think we need to get you and roxer together with Blitz, myself and whoever and wreck shit on Domination.

[RoXer]

I think sniping is something that has been desperately needing of reworking for a long time. Make a head shot a one hit kill and two for the body, and maybe cause a minor stun if doing something ridiculous like hip firing with a big ass sniper rifle.

If I had my way, you would be stunned if you fired without holding your breath with a sniper, but that'sjust me .

Or do something what I suggested YEARS ago.

- If it's an unscoped shot, the crosshairs are so large, they take up your entire screen. Literally the only way to kill someone with an unscoped shot would have to be in melee range. Otherwise there's a 99% chance your shot will not hit.

- The moment you aim down the sights those crosshairs become smaller. Obviously we're getting out of touch with reality because when you look through a scope in "real life" you'll see exactly where you're aiming but I don't give a fuck anymore because that's not how people are using it in this game.

So you press LT and the crosshairs slowly start to collapse into an actual reticle that you can use to snipe with. Think of the laser in Halo 3. Similar to that but just a little bit quicker.

- People who actually get kills like that can be rewarded with an attachment that makes that collapse quicker but not actually game breaking like quick-scopers.

Sniper rifles will be used how they're supposed to. Bullshit quickscope kills have been eliminated. I don't see what the problem is.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, me and Roxer owned domination on many occasions in the first BLOPS. Think I mentioned there was one match were we had 10 captures.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Quick-scoping is rife in BO2. It's thoroughly irritating as well. Benders.

I enjoy a bit of sniping but it's way better in Battlefield 3 with bullet drop, one-hit-kills only if you get a headshot and the spotting system. I headshotted some poor bastard from 500m when he was running down the beach in one of the islands. Of course no one else saw it but it was immensely satisfying still. Sniping in CoD is more a case of if you're smart enough to avoid getting rumbled too often, it's not difficult to hit even a running opponent.

[RoXer]

Yeah, me and Roxer owned domination on many occasions in the first BLOPS. Think I mentioned there was one match were we had 10 captures.

I'm highly guilty of that but only if I'm on a team I trust and can handle holding down all flags. It shoots me right to the top of our team. I remember two things playing Domination with Alvarado, one time I was the top scorer with 0 kills and god knows how many caps and then another time our team won 200-4.

You might have been there too, I don't remember.

[Fignuts]

Maybe.

And yeah, I agree that if you're playing with a few people you can coordinate with, getting all flags is a viable option. But when it's with randoms, who most of which don't even use a mic, it just leads to the opposing team getting two control points.

[LoDownM]

Fucking finally out of the funk I've been in. Back to dominating with the AN-94.

Been cheesing with the target finder for fun. I seem to get more head shots per game with it than without it.



They finally fixed rendering, but does the sound seem off on this for anyone else?

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[El Fangel]

As a player who enjoys sniping, I agree with RoXer.

My suggestion would be simply having the crosshairs not be in the center of the screen and off slightly in a random direction when you ADS.

Eliminates quickscoping and makes you actually have to line up the shot.

[RoXer]

I'mma hop on and then eat and then hop on again if anyone wants to play

[El Fangel]

I'll be on later as well.

[RoXer]

Someone else get on with Blitz and I, wanna do league

[Blitz]

I swear the number of quickscopers playing this has tripled in the last 2 days.

[RoXer]

Alright so, I dunno what's going on but ever since I started TeamCagedBird I can't get back to the page to manage anything about the clan. I'm guessing clan support has been suspended? Until who knows? I dunno.

All I know is that for now it's only Me, Blitz, and Alvarado with pending invites to Fignuts, Miotch and G. I think I can manage clan info/members from the Elite app on Xbox, but not on the website.

I signed us up for the few "competitions" they have available just in case. So check those out.

I dunno.

Once they actually support it maybe I'll figure out how to manage this thing. They better do it before the end of the year because I dunno how long I'm going to play this for.

[El Fangel]

ill join if you actually speak.

[RoXer]

pass

[El Fangel]

Figured. Kinda pointless to have a team without communication imo.

[RoXer]

I talk if there's something to talk about

[El Fangel]

Giving locations of enemies in particular is useful. Get annoyed how silent you guys are. Fignuts can attest to how we dominated when we communicated.

[RoXer]

It's not "you guys". It's mostly just me.

Alvarado has a mic, he'll only not use it if he's with his kid or something. Blitz has a mic. Miotch talks. I leave my mic in because I don't want 15 years olds calling me faggot coming through my sound system.

I also don't talk when we play because I don't like talking to you. Don't forget about that. :)

[El Fangel]

I understand that, just a little irritating because

1)'I think you are an alright guy and have no problem with you, but you don't like me. Fine, I can accept that, little disappointed because I prefer to get along with everyone but obviously not always possible.

2) I like a constant feed of info from my team.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Why do you need a "constant feed of info?" Most players probably spend about an average of 40 seconds being alive at a given time in this game before they have to re-spawn, it's too fast paced and the maps too small to even pretend "tactical speak" is of any use.

All you need is players who can be relied upon to do sensible things in team games, if I talk on this game it would be to talk shite to my mates. And really if you want to form a really effective team, all you need is for everyone to have UAV and counter-UAV as pointstreaks.

[El Fangel]

Why do you need a "constant feed of info?" Most players probably spend about an average of 40 seconds being alive at a given time in this game before they have to re-spawn, it's too fast paced and the maps too small to even pretend "tactical speak" is of any use.

All you need is players who can be relied upon to do sensible things in team games, if I talk on this game it would be to talk shite to my mates. And really if you want to form a really effective team, all you need is for everyone to have UAV and counter-UAV as pointstreaks.

I on average have the least amount of deaths and usually highest k/d ratio because I play it tactically. With a team giving info on locations when UAVs aren't up, it provides you with the possible location they are spawning and where to focus your attention.

I completely agree with at least doing sensible things, it is great when you ask a teammate to do a check down the stairs or watch the door while you check the other or clearthe room or setup a sniper nest.

Lastly though, complementary killstreaks, not just UAV and C-UAV are needed. What works is causing your opponents as much disadvantage as possible so for example A c-uav, guardian and a dragonfire and the enemy hasn't a chance.

I can and have played without a peep from the entire team I am playing with but really don't see the point if it feels like you are playing with a half dozen decent randoms and not some likable gentlemen like yourselves.

[The Rogerer]

DarthStoner69 there is a tango in the blue room, the one near the sort of green car I am oscar mike over

[Fignuts]

Why do you need a "constant feed of info?" Most players probably spend about an average of 40 seconds being alive at a given time in this game before they have to re-spawn, it's too fast paced and the maps too small to even pretend "tactical speak" is of any use.

All you need is players who can be relied upon to do sensible things in team games, if I talk on this game it would be to talk shite to my mates. And really if you want to form a really effective team, all you need is for everyone to have UAV and counter-UAV as pointstreaks.

In objective based games, communication can be useful. In deathmatch games, not as much.

[Requiem]

Honestly FA, I don't like talking to you in games because you don't even talk about the game half the time. Like I am trying to focus on killing people, and talking about that stuff with my friends or maybe joking around, nothing serious, and you come in and want to talk about the most random crap that totally takes me out of what I'm in the mood to do. Like, I'm playing this game because I want to kill the shit out of people with friends. Usually multiple friends. And you join and start domineering the airwaves with whatever it is you want to talk about usually, no matter if the chat is full of other people or not. This typically, depending on how your day is going, devolves into just complaining about what's going on, and it usually brings down other people, who then start bitching, etc... and it degenerates pretty quickly and brings the whole room down.

If we're being honest here. I love you bro, but you are rather off putting when you voice chat in shooters.

[El Fangel]

I try not to be since I realize how annoying that is. :(

[Blitz]

Having a mic on can be fun because it is easier to hear Fallen Angel explode when someone kills him.

[El Fangel]

I mutter a choice swear word when I know I shouldnt have died.:-\

[Blitz]

If that's you muttering I'd hate to hear you yelling.

[El Fangel]

You really are exaggerating this. Muttering fuuccckkk when I get killed by some bullshit means is not yelling by any means.

[The Rogerer]

It's really about you getting to order people around and tell them what to do, right? That's all my little brother did when I played with him.

[El Fangel]

It's really about you getting to order people around and tell them what to do, right? That's all my little brother did when I played with him.

Not even close.

[The Rogerer]

Then perhaps you play some sweet big club tracks down the mic.

[The Rogerer]

It also lets you complain about people 'stealing kills'. My little brother and his friends would constantly complain about that. I suppose the rest of us should fully check if a target is being sighted by someone else before we fire off a shot.

This is all conjecture but you must be really bad if people have come out and complained about your conduct in here. You'd expect them to be too polite to say anything if they've spoken in person.

[El Fangel]

Then perhaps you play some sweet big club tracks down the mic.

No.

It also lets you complain about people 'stealing kills'. My little brother and his friends would constantly complain about that. I suppose the rest of us should fully check if a target is being sighted by someone else before we fire off a shot.

This is all conjecture but you must be really bad if people have come out and complained about your conduct in here. You'd expect them to be too polite to say anything if they've spoken in person.

Never complain about kill steals since Last Stand is not in this game.

Yes, I conducted myself in a poor manner by yelling and cursing at times prior to purchasing Halo 4 and then this game.

I used to lose my shit fairly easily and totally make an asshat of myself. Embarrassed to be truthful so I have done my best to stop it. Still tend to express frustration through various swear words but trust me, nothing compared to before.

[Pintint]

Some guy, judging by the voice, about 12 years old who was on the server I was playing on last night constantly screamed into the mic. Each time he got killed he yelled "FUUUUUUUUUUUCK" and each kill he yelled, "HELL YEAH!".

I found it hilarious but people were yelling back at him over the mic and "reportiing" him.

[Requiem]

It also lets you complain about people 'stealing kills'. My little brother and his friends would constantly complain about that. I suppose the rest of us should fully check if a target is being sighted by someone else before we fire off a shot.

This is all conjecture but you must be really bad if people have come out and complained about your conduct in here. You'd expect them to be too polite to say anything if they've spoken in person.

You've misinterpreted what I said he 'did' on the mic to justify a complaint.

[Wehttam]

i love talking on the mic while playing. but usually just stay in party chats. i find it helpful in halo and sometimes fifa, but rarely anytime else.

[alvarado52]

Fangel isn't as bad anymore. He genuinely gives information onthe field aand vice versa. Last time we played together there were multiple times where he gave me a heads up on a flanking enemy and I returned the favor.

[drave]

BF3 is better and has more need of a mic :y:

[El Fangel]

Fangel isn't as bad anymore. He genuinely gives information onthe field aand vice versa. Last time we played together there were multiple times where he gave me a heads up on a flanking enemy and I returned the favor.

This is what Im talking about. Several of these matches were 75-7x which easily could have swung the other way.

[Pintint]

BF3 is better and has more need of a mic :y:

BF3 pretty much requires you to stay in one place and camp across the map all the time.
Meh.

[drave]

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!

Camp? Where?

Seriously though, I never camp, can't STAAAAAAAAAAAND IT!

I experience WAY more camping in CoD in TDM than I do on BF3 Conquest (which requires "defending" which is not "camping").

And quickscoping quickly ruined the CoD series for me. The last enjoyable multiplayer CoD for me was WaW

[The Rogerer]

They clearly want to support quickscoping since there's so many easy ways to mitigate it.

[drave]

Would seem that way. Just sucks that "o noes, I was shot in the toe!" ^DEAD^

That is a nerdrage moment for me.

[drave]

Honestly, if the CoD franchise would give 2 shits less about the FPS and incorporate vehicles OR more diversity between players (a la BF3) I might come back to the series. After I played BF3 online, I have never looked back. Played a bit at my brothers' houses, but not purchased the game itself.

There is something cool about being able to fly a jet/helo, or drive a tank/ATV, etc.

Also enjoy the land mines, C4 that actually blows stuff up and the functionality of SOFLAM. Oh yea, destructible environments, that would be another aspect that CoD needs to incorporate to "catch up".

[Fignuts]

No one actually uses the mic in BF3 tho.

[drave]

You can find people through Battlelog or other various forums, especially since the rent-a-server feature way back when.

It's pretty amazing what an Ace Pilot can do too, good times!

[Pintint]

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!

Camp? Where?

Seriously though, I never camp, can't STAAAAAAAAAAAND IT!

I experience WAY more camping in CoD in TDM than I do on BF3 Conquest (which requires "defending" which is not "camping").

And quickscoping quickly ruined the CoD series for me. The last enjoyable multiplayer CoD for me was WaW

Cant move in BF3. U move, u get sniped from across the map. Ridic. I bought the game and was sick of it within the week. I like to run and gun, thats why I prefer COD.

[Pintint]

And I hate that the game browser is your web browser. Horribly frustrating/annoying.

[drave]

I run and gun as well, it's much more fun. I have never been sniped from across a map or anything. If I am sniped, usually it is a 2 person spotter/sniper team.

I don't blame you for giving up after that experience..... but isn't quickscoping just as bad or frustrating?

[Pintint]

I run and gun as well, it's much more fun. I have never been sniped from across a map or anything. If I am sniped, usually it is a 2 person spotter/sniper team.

I don't blame you for giving up after that experience..... but isn't quickscoping just as bad or frustrating?

Eh, for some reason quickscoping doesnt bother me. Mostly because my SMG is great.
But maybe I need to give BF3 another try...

[El Fangel]

Would seem that way. Just sucks that "o noes, I was shot in the toe!" ^DEAD^

That is a nerdrage moment for me.

You have to realize that they very well could have hit you in a vital area but lag causes it to appear they missed in the kill cam very much like how the final killcam often looks like they missed by miles.

Honestly, if the CoD franchise would give 2 shits less about the FPS and incorporate vehicles OR more diversity between players (a la BF3) I might come back to the series. After I played BF3 online, I have never looked back. Played a bit at my brothers' houses, but not purchased the game itself.

There is something cool about being able to fly a jet/helo, or drive a tank/ATV, etc.

Also enjoy the land mines, C4 that actually blows stuff up and the functionality of SOFLAM. Oh yea, destructible environments, that would be another aspect that CoD needs to incorporate to "catch up".

So you want CoD to become BF. Ok.

I run and gun as well, it's much more fun. I have never been sniped from across a map or anything. If I am sniped, usually it is a 2 person spotter/sniper team.

I don't blame you for giving up after that experience..... but isn't quickscoping just as bad or frustrating?

It happens so little to me that honestly haven't noticed it at all. The thing that pisses me off is that on maps like Cargo which are huge when you respawn ten feet from where you died with the bastard who killed you running around the corner.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I'm tempted to go back to BF3 because I am only enjoying BO2 maybe 50% of the time due to the scandalous lagging issues. When BF3 is good, it's unbeatable, however, it can take a while to find good competitive games. It's pretty shit being on either side of a game where one team is full of gimps who just want to snipe in Rush and, worse, are shit even at that. Also being spawn trapped on some maps is simply no fun whatsoever.

[drave]

Agreed that being spawn trapped can suuuuuuuuuuuuuck.


And no, Fangel, I don't want it to be BF3, but they need to introduce SOMETHING new other than "amigad we haz a new moed and different wayz to level, you buy nao?" My point is, the releases since MW2 could just as easily be "DLC" if not for the addition of the solo campaign.

I'm not a "fanboy" of either/or as both have their advantages to their style and can be fun in their own rights.

[El Fangel]

Agree with the DLC comment, guns and maps could easily be added to games but they need their millions.

This CoD is different to me due to the ability to style a class completely to what you wish to do, even forsaking everything besides a primary weapon if you wish.

Have not enjoyed a shooter quite like this in awhile. I mean its still CoD but at least it's decent.

[drave]

Agreed on the last bit, which is why I kinda want to get back into it.

Blops was annoying because EVERYONE used the Famas and sadly, if you wanted to remain competitive, the player was pigeon holed to do the same thing.

[RoXer]

Blops was annoying because EVERYONE used the Famas and sadly, if you wanted to remain competitive, the player was pigeon holed to do the same thing.

Not in my experience

[alvarado52]

I used the Galil and worked peeps over.

[LoDownM]

I only used the FAMAS till I unlocked the AK-47 in Black Ops.

[Crimson]

Agreed on the last bit, which is why I kinda want to get back into it.

Blops was annoying because EVERYONE used the Famas and sadly, if you wanted to remain competitive, the player was pigeon holed to do the same thing.

ak74u with rapid fire would kill any Famas user son

[El Fangel]

Ill be on for a bit.

p.s I miss the ACR.

[Requiem]

Thinking of breaking down and buying this. Ugh. Really just didn't want to spend the money, as I already bought Halo and didn't think I had room for two shooters. But people I know have been playing this more than Halo so damn it. Got a month off of school now, and I want to nerd out on something.

So I've seen comments in passing in this thread that say this game is pretty good. Any closing comments before I say 'fuck it' and drive to the store? Lag issues? Balancing issues? Glitches? Probably gonna still buy it regardless of what people say but I'd like to be a little prepared for anything I guess.

[alvarado52]

No game breaking glitches, pretty balanced (for a CoD game), suggest using the MP7 or Starter shotgun until you unlock the weapon you want, as the starting assault rifles are piss.

[El Fangel]

Spawns are my only annoyance.

Otherwise its a go.

[El Fangel]

and do combat training and use the first preset (has ghost) so you can learn the maps and not be slaughtered.

[El Fangel]

No game breaking glitches, pretty balanced (for a CoD game), suggest using the MP7 or Starter shotgun until you unlock the weapon you want, as the starting assault rifles are piss.

Swat-556 son, you best recognize.

[Requiem]

Bought it. Be on after I eat this delicious pizza.

[El Fangel]

Ill be on later tonight.

[Blitz]

Good sesh tonight. If only I didn't have to study.

[El Fangel]

Sweet jesus, the lag in the games I have been in has been awful. I didn't even get a two bar. :(

[Pintint]

:heart:

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[Blitz]

That was idiotic.

[Pintint]

Nah, that was ElPressador, the greatest FPS player who's ever lived.
Luvvv his vids.

[RoXer]

Pintint, what's your Steam ID?

Is it through Steam? I don't even know.

[LoDownM]

Fuck needing to get 10 Bloodthirsty medals with just your gun to unlock gold camo.

[Blitz]

Fuck needing to get 10 Bloodthirsty medals with just your gun to unlock gold camo.
That's not hard. None of them are, really. This is the first game where I've unlocked all the camos for any gun. So glad the challenges aren't limited to just headshots anymore.

You know what's something I'd like to see addressed in the next patch? C4 and Betties being used as grenades. Throw some kind of detonation delay on there, for fuck's sake.

[Pintint]

Pintint, what's your Steam ID?

Is it through Steam? I don't even know.

Yeah Steam, my id is Anaconda244

[LoDownM]

That's not hard. None of them are, really. This is the first game where I've unlocked all the camos for any gun. So glad the challenges aren't limited to just headshots anymore.

You know what's something I'd like to see addressed in the next patch? C4 and Betties being used as grenades. Throw some kind of detonation delay on there, for fuck's sake.

I never said it was hard, it's frustrating as hell to get 4 kills, then get killed by a sniper or a retard with a KSG. And they are limited to headshots, atleast for ARs/SMGs/LMGS, still gotta get 100 before you can unlock the other ones.

They already have an anti "C4/Betty used as a grenade" it's called use flak jacket over ghost.

[Splaya]

That guy was hilarious

[alvarado52]

I dont mind a betty, but the C4 thing should not be a deployable weapon.

[alvarado52]

Also, TeamCagedBird just went on a wrecking ball run.

[Blitz]

I may be on later tonight. If not, catch me this weekend. Double XP.

[El Fangel]

That's not hard. None of them are, really. This is the first game where I've unlocked all the camos for any gun. So glad the challenges aren't limited to just headshots anymore.

You know what's something I'd like to see addressed in the next patch? C4 and Betties being used as grenades. Throw some kind of detonation delay on there, for fuck's sake.

No on betties, yes on c4.

I dont mind a betty, but the C4 thing should not be a deployable weapon.

This.

I may be on later tonight. If not, catch me this weekend. Double XP.

Ill be on later I think for a couple hours.

[Crimson]

double xp weekend?? hell yes, just in time as im about to prestige

[El Fangel]

I apparently prestiged my weapon...

[El Fangel]

sorry I left. Can't play when I'm doing that bad.

[alvarado52]

Way to suck it up

[El Fangel]

Would you rather I start yelling?

[Fignuts]

Are claymores any good anymore?

People always seem to get around my bettys.

[El Fangel]

Are claymores any good anymore?

People always seem to get around my bettys.

They don't combo as well with claymores. At least not for me.

[alvarado52]

Claymores are effective. They seem to go off quicker in Blops 2 than in previous games, making it possible to plant one right in front of a door and getting a kill, as opposed to planting it facing the direction the enemy will run.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[El Capitano Gatisto]

He's right, the lag is fucking scandalous. I'm living back home for a while now too and i'm getting an even better connection (22 mb down, 4 mb up) and the lag is still a joke. They fucked the game.

[Requiem]

The lag is pretty bad in this game. I've probably complained more about it in previous games, but usually because it was at least somewhat hidden and only happened from time to time. In this game, it happens every fucking game. There is just a serious lag issue with either the coding, or their servers. Get killed 5-10 feet behind walls every other death. Just as testament, I was playing split screen online at a friend's, and what I did on my screen was delayed by at least 1 second on his screen. Which is kind of silly considering we're on the same box.

I join a game and it's just a random roll of the dice as to whether my connection is good or not in a given game. I have 12mb service, which while it isn't fiber, it certainly isn't fucking terrible. 1mb upload too which is pretty 'standard'.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I have full green bars every time, but it's a lottery as to whether a game is playable for me or not. I think it's actually worse the better the connection you have because it can be particularly shit when you are host. This leads me to believe it's a lag compensation issue that they have attempted to put into the game and fucked it up royally. Black Ops had it too, but not nearly as bad as this.

[El Fangel]

I have green pretty much every map, but a quick check in the menus shows that a couple people have three and one has a two.

It is terrible that I enjoy the game this time and now it is the fucking lag causing frustration.

[Requiem]

I have full green bars every time, but it's a lottery as to whether a game is playable for me or not. I think it's actually worse the better the connection you have because it can be particularly shit when you are host. This leads me to believe it's a lag compensation issue that they have attempted to put into the game and fucked it up royally. Black Ops had it too, but not nearly as bad as this.

Yeah, host does fuck all for me. Latency is certainly not the game's strong point.

[RoXer]

might get on in 10 maybe

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Just had someone shoot me before I went round a corner. Interesting.

[The Destroyer]

The rules of cause and effect mean nothing to Treyarch.

[Pintint]

Was doing pretty good all week, but starting yesterday cant seem to kill anyone...wtf

[Requiem]

Just had someone shoot me before I went round a corner. Interesting.

This happens a lot to me. I feel like my client is roughly 1 second behind whatever is happening in the game. People will start shooting me before I even see them because on their screen, they're already around the corner. On mine, I'm just raising my gun to shoot because I JUST saw them.

Or worse, I'll know a guy is coming due to UAV or whatever, and I'm aiming at a corner, and the guy comes around... I pull the trigger.. and he just shreds me since he's "ahead" of me and saw me before I saw him even though I was prepared.

[Crimson]

If you have 2 scorestreaks to use how do you switch between them? Or can you only use whatever is next?

[Requiem]

up/down on dpad

[alvarado52]

Roxer

http://wawawia.com/posts/512/28764L.jpg

[Blitz]

Roxer talks plenty when Fallen Angel isn't there.

[RoXer]

And when he's there too, it don't matter

[RoXer]

Do you get anything for shooting or meleeing those basketballs through the hoop? Someone look it up.

[El Fangel]

And when he's there too, it don't matter

Liar.

[Blitz]

Prestiged less than an hour ago. Already level 17. <3 double XP.

[Pintint]

Feel like COD is "wasting my life", spent all day yesterday playing it and haven't touched any other games I have yet to beat :/

[drave]

Still on the fence with this one.......

I enjoy Borderlands 2 quite a bit, and it gives me my FPS and RPG fill. Is BlOps 2 that... damn.... good??