I have a question about Gamergate

[Swiss Ultimate]

I started watching it and thought some of the guys were well within the standards just saying hello to a pretty woman, most of the later ones freaked me out a bit.

[Kalyx triaD]

O/T What was your take on the NYC Street Harassment video and the ensuing backlash?

Before I was annoyed I found it hilarious. New York is a funny place.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I've only been there twice. Reminded me of Bourbon street in New Orleans. Feels very different from Chicago or any "city" in Florida.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd love for the "actress" to attempt that same experiment at our Aventura Mall.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I suspect I need more context. Anyway, out for a bit.

[The Rogerer]

Kalyx doing his droford term, revelling in the suffering of others. How can he do the 'your suffering is relative' schtick and not just continue to talking about starving orphans in Africa. What do your ebonies and latinas think of those?

[Kalyx triaD]

Starving orphans =/= Mean tweets

[The Rogerer]

But suffering is relative? Your ebonies and latinas live in USA #1, they have a world of opportunity ahead of them.

[Swiss Ultimate]

The part of the video that really stood out was the weirdo walking next to the girl for like 4 minutes straight.

The jerk who kept asking if he was too ugly kind of pissed me off.

What was interesting to me was how the video was then decried as racist by SJWs in need of a new witch to burn. Because, since a lot of people with little education and low-paying jobs check a box that says "not white", it's racist to show the problems inherent among uneducated and low-paying adult men.

Which brings me back to my focus of reforming education in America and growing the economy. Men with high-school educations, college defrees and career options don't stand on the street getting mad at women for not knowing they have huge cocks.

[Kalyx triaD]

But suffering is relative? Your ebonies and latinas live in USA #1, they have a world of opportunity ahead of them.

They do.

Ya know, what you call suffering just may not be what I would call suffering. This is the secret power of professional victims, or really anybody who thinks being offended is something they should be protected from: They get to turn the knob on what is and isn't an offense. When you play with words, terms, and definitions you can also widen the scope of what the public should respond to.

One woman's 'suffering' of "street harassment" is another woman's Tuesday at South Beach. We can't possibly account for how people take things a certain way (a major point of contention with SJWs now that I think about it).

But anyway yeah; you've used 'suffering' and even mentioned actual suffering (famine) to highlight what? That all suffering is equal, so long as you apply the word to whatever? You don't believe that.

Anita's just wallowing in despair with her self promotion on Comedy Central.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm thinking the guy who walked next to her was simply going that direction. Only the people recording knows for sure and they're certainly interested in making it look as creepy as possible.

[BigDaddyCool]

Is gamer-gate still telling bitches they be bitches?

[Destor]

really hate that this thread is still here. keep telling myself I wont go back in here but days roll on and here it is. tempting me point how activism over gaming is one of the biggest wastes in energy imaginable. if only this effort went to things that would be constructive we may actually make some progress as a nation.

The adult toy market is serious business.

[drave]

really hate that this thread is still here. keep telling myself I wont go back in here but days roll on and here it is. tempting me point how activism over gaming is one of the biggest wastes in energy imaginable. if only this effort went to things that would be constructive we may actually make some progress as a nation.

The adult toy market is serious business.

#Dildogate

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

[Destor]

#Dildogate

MAKE IT HAPPEN!
least dildos actually fuck you

[drave]

We should Gorilla Glue dildos to the hoods of our vehicles in support of the movement.

Spread awareness (and appendages) one person at a time.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I'm thinking the guy who walked next to her was simply going that direction. Only the people recording knows for sure and they're certainly interested in making it look as creepy as possible.

Come off it.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I started watching it and thought some of the guys were well within the standards just saying hello to a pretty woman, most of the later ones freaked me out a bit.

To be honest, I have a problem with men deciding what counts as street harassment or not. Really it's the person having "hello" shouted at them randomly in the street who decides whether they feel threatened by that or not. Then, if you take part in that behaviour, it's up to the individual to decide whether they care that they may be making someone feel uncomfortable.

I personally always cringe inwardly when I see some bloke shout at a woman in the street or passive-aggressively comment, I've seen loudmouth friends do it probably not realise they're part of a pattern. I also know my wife feels it is vaguely threatening when some guy calls out to her when she's walking or running. It's obviously not exactly India or anything, but there is a spectrum of behaviour. Realistically, no man has to deal with it on a daily basis so it's not really for us to say what is acceptable or not, moreso to decide whether it's really necessary for us to randomly say "hello" to a stranger we happen to find attractive.

[Vastardikai]

On one hand, Kalyx actually talks about legit issues with game journalism and that makes him sound like he's different from the bottom feeders in GG.

Then, he uses SJW as an insult (you know my stance on that) and tends to mansplain things.

It's really disheartening, and I feel he's better than that.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's no such thing as 'mansplaining', and even so it's just bizarre that a dude is calling me on that. It's just another facet of tone policing that, yes, SJWs like to use to control the conversation.

Have you considered that I'm a guy with legit points, and the negatives you pointed out are only things you've been told to seek out by the very people who would disagree with me? Consider that these things aren't even refutations of whatever I believe. How I use SJW as a term? "Mansplaining"? It isn't discussion or refutation to point that out, it's an easy out. It 100% leads to, "Well I'm not talking to you or taking you seriously because ________."

I feel you are better than that, honestly.

[Vastardikai]

A dude has no purpose telling a woman how she should feel about anything. People have the right to feel uncomfortable.

I say this as a person who gives off creepy vibes.

[Kalyx triaD]

A dude has no purpose telling a woman how she should feel about anything.

Well ain't that a bitch.

Consider that all somebody like Anita Sarkeesian and some female game journalist do is tell men exactly how they should feel.

We have social norms established where we can see a person's reaction and determine whether somebody is either going over the line, or not taking something seriously enough. We can't make such determinations without some sort of interactive constants. But you know that; we do this all the time.

What you're telling me is not to do this in the case of evaluating across gender lines, for no other reason than I'm the man and the one under the microscope is female. I reject this, sorry.

The extreme of this is not being allowed to analyze, promote, or vilify anybody's feelings about anything ever. Because at this point it would be me 'Kalyxsplaining'. I mean, I don't know what Vast goes through so I have no ground to even begin telling him how he should feel about any given action. Even though I'm not telling him how he should so much as asking for a degree of self reflection. But nope - Kalyxsplaining.

You have to know that's bullshit. Don't run with this mansplaining silliness.

People have the right to feel uncomfortable.

Of course they do. This is the umpteenth time somebody has spun my posts into the blocking/banning of some personable freedom. I can't stop anybody from feeling uncomfortable. I can certainly speak against somebody taking their personal reaction and thinking the world is supposed to spin the other way to appease them.

I say this as a person who gives off creepy vibes.

Oh stop you're a big ball of hug stuff.

[BigDaddyCool]

Lol, Kalyx doesn't understand basic human emotion.

[The Rogerer]

Every drop of rain said "Well I didn't cause the flood."

[Kalyx triaD]

Stop praying for rain.

[Miotch]

Stop ignoring that it's down pouring.

[Kalyx triaD]

It can't rain everyday.

[The Rogerer]

Don't leave me high

[Nark Order]

This thread is so odd. What in the fuck. Why are all of these discussion forum posters in here. Feel like the forum is being destroyed before our eyes. What in the fuck is happening

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Everybody in this thread posts more in this forum than you do, so that means you are the weird one.

[The Rogerer]

Narcissus

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5a/Wizard1989.jpg/220px-Wizard1989.jpg

"Get out of my bedroom guys. Only real gamers allowed. This is my yard"

[Ruien]

You assholes need to stop fucking around with WoW.

[The Rogerer]

Arseholes

[drave]

Anal portals

[road doggy dogg]

anal portals confirmed for Half-Life 3

[Nark Order]

Narcissus

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5a/Wizard1989.jpg/220px-Wizard1989.jpg

"Get out of my bedroom guys. Only real gamers allowed. This is my yard"

That's not it at all. This is just so odd. Like so odd. It's like you all have an argument detection system built into your computers.

[drave]

Or we regularly peruse the forum and get involved in a discussion in said forum. That happens sometimes.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

That's not it at all. This is just so odd. Like so odd. It's like you all have an argument detection system built into your computers.

You're the only person doing this. I don't remember ever seeing you post in this forum before posting in this thread in a manner that is in no way related to the topic.

[Nark Order]

I can't imagine you playing a video game. I always thought that you had fun by reading scientific journals outside with your clothes off in the middle of Russian winters.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I don't get playing as often as I used to, but with friends living all over the place nowadays, Call of Duty/FIFA/Worms 2 on Xbox live with my main way of keeping in touch with a lot of people in the past couple of years. For about half my life maybe 3 of the wider groups of friends I've had have all been brought together by drinking and Pro Ev.

[Nark Order]

Worms is a magnificent game. None of my friends like it because they are fuck faces.

[The Rogerer]

I've probably played more games than anyone in here except Kalyx

[drave]

How many do you think, out of curiosity?

[road doggy dogg]

I can confirm that I have played at least six games in my life.

[The Rogerer]

I don't know. Would probably be more meaningful to square off with how many systems I owned. I do remember trying to compile a list of every game I'd ever played, but that was about 14 years ago.

I have also developed games both alone and as part of a team so please remember I am the most important person in this thread.

[drave]

Of the games you developed, how many reviewers did you make coitus with for positive press. Because those numbers will have to be subtracted from your total count in an effort to remain ethical.

THAT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE HERE!

[Wehttam]

let my people go

[Kalyx triaD]

Honestly I'd say I play less separate titles than a lot of you. I tend to stick to a few titles a year. It's why there's no point in me posting in the What Are You Playing thread; it'll be the same group of games for up to a year.

In terms of hours put into gaming, I rather not say...

[Fignuts]

TPWW Worms 2 Tournament

[Kalyx triaD]

We're getting an X1 in December. Something's going down.

[The Rogerer]

Objectively the inferior console

Which is fine and all but proves somewhat that reviews don't matter.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't know many people who gave X1 solid reviews at launch besides IGN. Most people were pretty critical of it, even after the big 180 turn.

We're getting it because of what I believe are the only decent reasons for choosing a console; controller, exclusives, online network, and where my buds are at. I don't care about specs so long as I'm playing with my dudes in Halo 5.

[drave]

I also feel it has less technical issues to deal with/overcome. The recent PS updates have been less than positive. The internal architecture also makes the machine much more versatile for someone (like me) who uses it for more than just gaming.

Donut care much about 1080p 60fps. If I did, I would just buy a PC.

[BigDaddyCool]

X-Box One slept with IGN to get positive reviews.

[drave]

Now I feel awful - I am not a gamer :(

Thanks BDC, I owe you my life!

[Raven Reaper]

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Tired of all the Gamergate drama and this song is dedicated to all Gamers and Anti-Gamergaters.

[road doggy dogg]

It's a good thing you bumped this month-old topic to let us know how sick of the drama you are.

[Fignuts]

We were almost out, you asshole. It was almost gone.

[Bad News Gertner]

Bump