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#BROKEN Hasney
08-10-2015, 10:55 AM
Nah, physics look exactly the same

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Also concerning it wasn't playable at Gamescom this year. Even the delayed 2k15 was, so either not on time again, or don't want to admit just yet it's almost exactly the same game as last year.

drave
08-10-2015, 11:09 AM
To be fair, Balor's movements were spot on for him. Still though, will have to play it before I buy it this time.

Evil Vito
08-10-2015, 11:19 AM
<font color=goldenrod>And the 12 revealed this week are:

Booker T
Colonel Mustafa
Emma
Eva Marie
General Adnan
Kalisto
Kane
Lord Steven Regal
Sin Cara
Summer Rae
Tamina
Triple H

lol...Lord Steven, Adnan, and Mustafa. Basically they're just taking DLC characters from last year and putting them into the regular game. I guess I'd still rather have Lord Steven Regal than inexplicably jet-black hair Regal.</font>

Mercenary
08-10-2015, 12:01 PM
So we get another shitty DDP! YES!

Cool King
08-10-2015, 03:07 PM
<font color=goldenrod>And the 12 revealed this week are:

Booker T
Colonel Mustafa
Emma
Eva Marie
General Adnan
Kalisto
Kane
Lord Steven Regal
Sin Cara
Summer Rae
Tamina
Triple H

lol...Lord Steven, Adnan, and Mustafa. Basically they're just taking DLC characters from last year and putting them into the regular game. I guess I'd still rather have Lord Steven Regal than inexplicably jet-black hair Regal.</font>

I guess that explains the "over 120 unique models" thing then.

We get our current roster, then a bunch of old wrestlers.

Same as last year. And the year before that. And the year before that. And the year before that....

Frank Drebin
08-10-2015, 03:29 PM
I love checking out the roster as much as the next guy. Fun entrances, music and PYRO!! Problem every year is that they really focus on the roster reveal and not much else. Sweet, Kalisto and Eva Marie are in.....now what about the replay factor that they're missing every year? Will WM feel like the "Showcase of the Immortals" or will it be another house show but with titles up for grabs? Will Universe be fun and streamlined with some secret or character specific stories and decisions or will it be match after match of the same thing just with a different stipulation every week?

So far I don't see anything to get excited about since it seems they're on track to do the same thing they've done the last 3-4 years: Tweak the gameplay slightly, switch out one Showcase for another and....that's about it.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-10-2015, 04:11 PM
Sports games have a built in replay value. It's competition. They don't have to do anything to keep that alive except make sure Multiplayer doesn't suck a major dick.

WWE Universe mode won't be any more fun.

Wishbone
08-10-2015, 04:38 PM
We'll see how this turns out. Probably rent it before I spend the $60+ on it. Honestly the lack of custom music is really making me not want to buy this at all. Customization has always been my favorite part of the WWE games, and it doesn't sound like this one is even coming close to the older games.

Mercenary
08-10-2015, 04:52 PM
We'll see how this turns out. Probably rent it before I spend the $60+ on it. Honestly the lack of custom music is really making me not want to buy this at all. Customization has always been my favorite part of the WWE games, and it doesn't sound like this one is even coming close to the older games.


Vince has been rumored to want the custom options out for years so be lucky it's in.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-10-2015, 05:04 PM
Nah, physics look exactly the same

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Also concerning it wasn't playable at Gamescom this year. Even the delayed 2k15 was, so either not on time again, or don't want to admit just yet it's almost exactly the same game as last year.

Last years game wasn't bad. It looking the same isn't a bad thing. Madden looks the same every year.

Mercenary
08-10-2015, 05:30 PM
Last years game wasn't bad. It looking the same isn't a bad thing. Madden looks the same every year.


Lack of match options ruined it

Fignuts
08-10-2015, 06:26 PM
Vince has been rumored to want the custom options out for years so be lucky it's in.

What? Rumored by who? I've never heard this.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-10-2015, 06:34 PM
Vince knows what a video game is?

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-10-2015, 06:35 PM
Lack of match options ruined it

Nah, Career mode was worth it.

Droford
08-10-2015, 07:40 PM
Nah, physics look exactly the same

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Also concerning it wasn't playable at Gamescom this year. Even the delayed 2k15 was, so either not on time again, or don't want to admit just yet it's almost exactly the same game as last year.

Let's be fair. You're gonna watch that entrance like, 3 times and then just skip it after that cause its too fucking long

DAMN iNATOR
08-10-2015, 07:49 PM
Let's be fair. You're gonna watch that entrance like, 3 times and then just skip it after that cause its too fucking long

Yes, certainly everyone is going to do just that. STFU trying to speak for everybody. I happen to quite enjoy all the entrances in the games and I NEVER (voice of Y2J), ... EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVEEEEEEERRRR skip or turn off entrances.

Maybe casual players who don't give a millionth of a fuck about a "wrasslin'" game will do that, but it's just pretentious and annoying that you automatically assume everyone will. SMDH

Frank Drebin
08-10-2015, 07:54 PM
Sports games have a built in replay value. It's competition. They don't have to do anything to keep that alive except make sure Multiplayer doesn't suck a major dick.

WWE Universe mode won't be any more fun.

This isnt Madden, we watch WWE for the story as much as the competition. No story in online. I'm sure lots of people like it, but I've never cared for it in a wrestling game.

Cool King
08-10-2015, 08:50 PM
Just got a random neg rep from MoFo, for a post in this thread that I posted over a month ago.

Apparently, he "didn't care" about what I had to say. Fair enough, I guess.

Kalyx triaD
08-10-2015, 08:53 PM
lol

DAMN iNATOR
08-10-2015, 08:56 PM
If it makes you feel any better he did the same to me for spittin' TRUTH on Droford, too. That was 11 minutes AFTER he pos. repped me for a post on page 2 (@ 100 ppp).

#BROKEN Hasney
08-11-2015, 03:33 AM
Let's be fair. You're gonna watch that entrance like, 3 times and then just skip it after that cause its too fucking long

I was talking about the match segments after.

The entrances are hilarious in their own right. Not even the live crowd looks at them and the fact that they still use camera cuts because they can't work out how to make a model walk from out of the actual opening since WWE changed to the generic set is hilarious.

XL
08-11-2015, 05:51 PM
<font color=goldenrod>And the 12 revealed this week are:

Booker T
Colonel Mustafa
Emma
Eva Marie
General Adnan
Kalisto
Kane
Lord Steven Regal
Sin Cara
Summer Rae
Tamina
Triple H

lol...Lord Steven, Adnan, and Mustafa. Basically they're just taking DLC characters from last year and putting them into the regular game. I guess I'd still rather have Lord Steven Regal than inexplicably jet-black hair Regal.</font>

Heh. As long as we still get new models - which we do, I don't have a problem with this. Sooner they keep people in and add a few more than remove a bunch and a few a few new faces. Sort of a "more the merrier" type deal. I'm never gonna play as Adnan but it's sort of a bonus to have him there.

This is what frustrates me in the past; in order to add new stuff in they'd remove a bunch of other stuff. Massive hype over being able to fight in the crowd, only for that to be removed 2 games later. These games should be progressive, we shouldn't have an either/or situation.

I'm glad to see certain things return (like rope-assist pin, arguing with the Ref, pre-match, post-match stuff) but it bugs me that they went away in the first place.

Other franchises, particularly sports games, tend to build on what came before. You'll never get a FIFA game where there are less teams/leagues to choose from for example. They get progressively bigger. That's what I want from my WWE game.

Mercenary
08-11-2015, 06:00 PM
Heh. As long as we still get new models - which we do, I don't have a problem with this. Sooner they keep people in and add a few more than remove a bunch and a few a few new faces. Sort of a "more the merrier" type deal. I'm never gonna play as Adnan but it's sort of a bonus to have him there.

This is what frustrates me in the past; in order to add new stuff in they'd remove a bunch of other stuff. Massive hype over being able to fight in the crowd, only for that to be removed 2 games later. These games should be progressive, we shouldn't have an either/or situation.

I'm glad to see certain things return (like rope-assist pin, arguing with the Ref, pre-match, post-match stuff) but it bugs me that they went away in the first place.

Other franchises, particularly sports games, tend to build on what came before. You'll never get a FIFA game where there are less teams/leagues to choose from for example. They get progressively bigger. That's what I want from my WWE game.


https://33.media.tumblr.com/2b43ce021946e946acb68ce125d557fa/tumblr_ndm98q8EAG1r4p6t9o1_250.gif


and rep for a very true statement

Kalyx triaD
08-11-2015, 06:08 PM
To be honest a lot of sports games do the same shit. At times more egregiously.

Emperor Smeat
08-11-2015, 06:20 PM
This is what frustrates me in the past; in order to add new stuff in they'd remove a bunch of other stuff. Massive hype over being able to fight in the crowd, only for that to be removed 2 games later. These games should be progressive, we shouldn't have an either/or situation.
If its similar to the removal of men vs women matches, crowd fighting might have been a demand by the WWE to remove.

Do agree that the series itself has serious problems when it comes to consistency with features or expanding things. Even the idea of something as basic as "ref counting to 2" for pins was touted as something big for WWE 2k14 because of how badly it was botched in WWE 13.

Fignuts
08-11-2015, 06:58 PM
I will never forgive EA for removing indoor games from Fifa.

DAMN iNATOR
08-11-2015, 11:28 PM
If its similar to the removal of men vs women matches, crowd fighting might have been a demand by the WWE to remove.

Do agree that the series itself has serious problems when it comes to consistency with features or expanding things. Even the idea of something as basic as "ref counting to 2" for pins was touted as something big for WWE 2k14 because of how badly it was botched in WWE 13.

I know you can toggle it to default but I fucking hate the "Hold 'A'" bullshit pin minigame...

XL
08-12-2015, 03:30 PM
If its similar to the removal of men vs women matches, crowd fighting might have been a demand by the WWE to remove.

Do agree that the series itself has serious problems when it comes to consistency with features or expanding things. Even the idea of something as basic as "ref counting to 2" for pins was touted as something big for WWE 2k14 because of how badly it was botched in WWE 13.

WWE don't present men vs. women matches (or man on woman violence at all) so that makes sense. You'll rarely go a week without someone fighting in the crowd.

Mercenary
08-12-2015, 07:13 PM
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Like this ad, and it seems to confirm Foley.

Fignuts
08-12-2015, 07:27 PM
Wait what?

If you preorder you can see the full roster? Won't the first person that does it post it online, negating the whole bonus? Or did I just massively misinterpret that.

What Would Kevin Do?
08-12-2015, 07:53 PM
It is just a link in the video to IGN's roster reveal

DAMN iNATOR
08-12-2015, 08:46 PM
Yeah, but you KNOW somebody will find a way to leak it despite efforts to prevent that. It will be most likely leaked in list form obviously.

Evil Vito
08-12-2015, 10:05 PM
<font color=goldenrod>tbh it seems a bit daft to be this secretive with the roster when they seem to be making it their big selling point. If they reveal a dozen or so characters each Monday as seems to be the plan and they have 120+ unique characters, they're barely going to finish with the reveal before the game comes out.

Kinda miss the SD games that would come out 9-10 years ago where they'd just drop the entire roster in one day. Then start the countdown where you'd get a different entrance/finisher every day.</font>

DAMN iNATOR
08-12-2015, 10:40 PM
Yeah I hear ya...I miss the old IGN "SD! Countdown" articles, too.

Frank Drebin
08-12-2015, 10:52 PM
The game blows, they know it, so they'll just get everyone up in arms over whether or not guys like Rhyno and Goldberg are in it so that when you find out they are its "THA BEFT EVR"

DAMN iNATOR
08-13-2015, 12:21 AM
The game blows, they know it, so they'll just get everyone up in arms over whether or not guys like Rhyno and Goldberg are in it so that when you find out they are its "THA BEFT EVR"

Rhyno was in Shut Your Mouth and HCTP, and Goldberg was in HCTP.

XL
08-13-2015, 02:20 AM
Yeah, but you KNOW somebody will find a way to leak it despite efforts to prevent that. It will be most likely leaked in list form obviously.

I think you're misunderstanding.

At the end of the video you can click on a link to see the roster...or what's been revealed so far.

Or, you can click on a link to pre-order.

Disturbed316
08-13-2015, 04:55 AM
An interesting way of finding out whose on the roster:

http://www.gamesradar.com/wwe-2k16-roster/

Evil Vito
08-13-2015, 09:15 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Pretty sure they've included shirts for wrestlers who weren't in the game before. That said, everyone listed there should be in anyway given the roster space.</font>

Cool King
08-13-2015, 07:18 PM
I don't get why they make such a big deal over the roster and the revealing of it. There's nothing spectacular about it. You know who you're going to get. It's pretty much always the same.

Cena, Orton, Lesnar, Rollins, Triple H, Reigns, Taker, Ambrose and so on. They're all going to be in it, because a game without them would be stupid. So what this whole roster reveal thing is really about, is the old wrestlers and maybe a few current jobbers.

Will Ryder be in the game? Or will he be left out so Swagger can be in the game? Or maybe Slater?

Which wrestlers from Austin's time will be in it? NOD Rock? Marc Mero? D'lo Brown? Rikishi? Faarooq?

That's all it's really about.

Cool King
08-13-2015, 07:18 PM
At least that's what it comes across as to me, anyway.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-13-2015, 10:30 PM
1996 Jake.

loopydate
08-13-2015, 11:36 PM
List of Austin's WWF/E PPV opponents/partners (not including everybody in every Rumble he was in):

Savio Vega, Marc Mero, Jake Roberts, Yokozuna, Triple H, Bret Hart, Vader, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Owen Hart, British Bulldog, Brian Pillman, Jim Neidhart, Road Warriors, Ken Shamrock, Goldust, Dude Love, The Rock, Mankind, Chainsaw Charlie, New Age Outlaws, Kane, Vince McMahon, Shane McMahon, Rikishi, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Booker T, Dudley Boyz, DDP, Rhyno, Rob Van Dam, Big Show, Scott Hall, Ric Flair, and Eric Bischoff

That's pretty much a game roster right there.

Bonus stage where you beat the crap out of Debra, but continue to get massive babyface pops when you drink and drive inside an arena.

Evil Vito
08-14-2015, 09:26 AM
<font color=goldenrod>And a third bonus stage where you hit the Stone Cold Stunner on the upstart Rene Dupree repeatedly to kill his momentum before he leaves the Raw brand.</font>

Evil Vito
08-14-2015, 09:28 AM
<font color=goldenrod>It kinda feels like an Austin career retrospective wouldn't be complete without Owen Hart or Kurt Angle.

Even though he's with TNA it's possible that Angle could have signed a deal with 2k to allow him into the game. Feel like he would have been one of the first people announced if he were in, though.</font>

Evil Vito
08-14-2015, 01:03 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Soundtrack released. An eclectic mix to say the least:</font>

•Billy Idol - "Rebel Yell"
•Diplo (feat. Faustix & Imanos and Kai) – “Revolution”
•Fashawn (feat. Nas & Aloe Blacc) – “Something To Believe In”
•Kid Ink – “Hello World”
•Marilyn Manson – “Deep Six”
•MGK (feat. Victoria Monet) – “A Little More”
•Run-DMC – “It’s Tricky”
•Skid Row – “Youth Gone Wild”
•Twenty One Pilots – “Heavydirtysoul”
•Yelawolf – “Till It’s Gone” [Dan Heath Remix]
•Zac Brown Band (feat. Chris Cornell) – “Heavy Is The Hand”
•Zedd (feat. Logic and X-Ambassadors) – “Transmission”

Mercenary
08-14-2015, 01:14 PM
Better than last years

DAMN iNATOR
08-14-2015, 04:25 PM
<font color=goldenrod>And a third bonus stage where you hit the Stone Cold Stunner on the upstart Rene Dupree repeatedly to kill his momentum before he leaves the Raw brand.</font>

Next, you get booked into a match with Brock Lesnar, take your ball and go home.

Then, you lose @ WM XIX only to have RAW GM Bischoff read your private and confidential medical report the next night on RAW and he removes you from the roster. J.R. then quits and in a few weeks you are introduced as the co-GM of RAW and Stunner Bischoff for "physically provoking" you.

Next, you must go to SD! 3 nights before WM XX and recover your ATV.

Finally, at WM XX, after the Goldberg/Lesnar match, you Stunner both of them and drink in the ring and up the ramp, staggering to the back.

Cool King
08-14-2015, 06:39 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Soundtrack released. An eclectic mix to say the least:</font>

•Billy Idol - "Rebel Yell"
•Diplo (feat. Faustix & Imanos and Kai) – “Revolution”
•Fashawn (feat. Nas & Aloe Blacc) – “Something To Believe In”
•Kid Ink – “Hello World”
•Marilyn Manson – “Deep Six”
•MGK (feat. Victoria Monet) – “A Little More”
•Run-DMC – “It’s Tricky”
•Skid Row – “Youth Gone Wild”
•Twenty One Pilots – “Heavydirtysoul”
•Yelawolf – “Till It’s Gone” [Dan Heath Remix]
•Zac Brown Band (feat. Chris Cornell) – “Heavy Is The Hand”
•Zedd (feat. Logic and X-Ambassadors) – “Transmission”

The first thing I thought was "Billy Idol!?". I never thought I'd see Billy Idol and WWE being related in some way. Quite random.

"Eclectic" really is the word to use for this soundtrack.

So the genres we have are:

Rock
EDM
Hip Hop
Hip Hop
Alt-Metal
Hip Hop
Rap Rock
Glam Metal
Alternative Hip Hop
Country Rap
Southern Rock
EDM

For me, the soundtrack really isn't to my taste, as I think I only like five songs on that list.

Such a strange soundtrack.

dronepool
08-14-2015, 10:18 PM
Deep Six, fuck yeah!

Cool King
08-15-2015, 11:25 AM
That is one of the five I actually like.

Dukelorange
08-15-2015, 01:47 PM
We need the ability to add our own music anyway. Besides I turn the jukebox off in the menu screen.

DaveWadding
08-15-2015, 02:15 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Soundtrack released. An eclectic mix to say the least:</font>

•Billy Idol - "Rebel Yell"
•Diplo (feat. Faustix & Imanos and Kai) – “Revolution”
•Fashawn (feat. Nas & Aloe Blacc) – “Something To Believe In”
•Kid Ink – “Hello World”
•Marilyn Manson – “Deep Six”
•MGK (feat. Victoria Monet) – “A Little More”
•Run-DMC – “It’s Tricky”
•Skid Row – “Youth Gone Wild”
•Twenty One Pilots – “Heavydirtysoul”
•Yelawolf – “Till It’s Gone” [Dan Heath Remix]
•Zac Brown Band (feat. Chris Cornell) – “Heavy Is The Hand”
•Zedd (feat. Logic and X-Ambassadors) – “Transmission”

The first thing I thought was "Billy Idol!?". I never thought I'd see Billy Idol and WWE being related in some way. Quite random.

"Eclectic" really is the word to use for this soundtrack.

So the genres we have are:

Rock
EDM
Hip Hop
Hip Hop
Alt-Metal
Hip Hop
Rap Rock
Glam Metal
Alternative Hip Hop
Country Rap
Southern Rock
EDM

For me, the soundtrack really isn't to my taste, as I think I only like five songs on that list.

Such a strange soundtrack.

Your assessment of Zac Brown Band as "Country Rap" leads me to believe that you have never actually HEARD a Zac Brown Band song, just heard their name mentioned along with shitty country rap acts as "popular country."


Unless I misread and you're calling Yelawolf "country rap" and ZBB "Southern Rock," in which case, I misread and am sorry.
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Droford
08-15-2015, 04:01 PM
It's Tricky is going to bring back memories of SSX Tricky

Cool King
08-15-2015, 04:12 PM
Unless I misread and you're calling Yelawolf "country rap" and ZBB "Southern Rock," in which case, I misread and am sorry.

I am indeed calling Yelawolf "country rap" and ZBB "Southern Rock".

Apology accepted.

Cool King
08-15-2015, 04:14 PM
Also, along with "Deep Six", "Heavy Is The Hand" is one of the five I actually like.

Cool King
08-15-2015, 04:15 PM
"It's Tricky" is also one of the five I actually like.

This is turning out to be a fun game. Only two more to go.

Disturbed316
08-15-2015, 06:43 PM
I do not give a shit out the soundtrack, just saying.

I'd rather they spend the money on the making of the game rather than paying some unknown twat for their shit music.

loopydate
08-15-2015, 08:08 PM
You could say the same thing about the actual WWE, though. This indicates to me that they're trying to adhere as closely to the product as possible by introducing songs that no one will ever listen to outside the context of WWE.

Isn't that right, Tinie Tempah?

Disturbed316
08-15-2015, 09:34 PM
True, out of the list I've only heard of four of them.

Frank Drebin
08-16-2015, 05:47 PM
Hope Cee Low circa Summerslam 2013 is a playable characrer.

DAMN iNATOR
08-16-2015, 07:10 PM
In the shortest storyline ever in a WWE game, you, as Mark Henry, get distracted by music during your match at the start of SD! You then get up, infuriated, walk over to the technician's table, yell "YOU PLAY MUSIC?!", destroy the equipment then pick up the tech. and throw him 25 feet.

Mercenary
08-16-2015, 08:56 PM
I want to relive the shortest Rumble entree moments!

DAMN iNATOR
08-16-2015, 09:50 PM
I want to relive the shortest Rumble entree moments!

Dunno if anyone has ever eaten during the Rumble...:shifty:

Mercenary
08-16-2015, 10:20 PM
Dunno if anyone has ever eaten during the Rumble...:shifty:



Shut up..... :P

loopydate
08-17-2015, 12:07 AM
Pretty sure Afa was eating at ringside during one of the Rumbles that had a Headshrinker in it.

drave
08-17-2015, 06:09 AM
Different "take" on the subtleties that the newer WWE games are missing.

http://kotaku.com/wwe-video-game-finishers-used-to-look-better-1724454659

#BROKEN Hasney
08-17-2015, 06:12 AM
I always love the new SCM just for this

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pF0HV-Wx--/1388666956759809606.jpg
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130928021923/finalfantasy/images/0/09/Cactuar_FFX.png

drave
08-17-2015, 06:39 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOL!

drave
08-17-2015, 06:40 AM
Cactuar would beat anyone on the roster.

Evil Vito
08-17-2015, 09:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/qmHyTMn.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WN9DZpX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pCE0WBU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eCd8mSJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1EWYvcy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XVHDwiS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VkAddzC.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>Renders have been found on IGN's site for the following, all apparently part of this week's reveal:

Adam Rose
Brie Bella
Bo Dallas
Brock Lesnar
Goldust
Heath Slater
Hideo Itami
Jack Swagger
Kevin Owens
Neville
Nikki Bella
Ric Flair
Roman Reigns
Sami Zayn
Stardust
Sting
Tyler Breeze
Ultimate Warrior
Zack Ryder</font>

Mercenary
08-17-2015, 09:34 AM
Itami and Breeze look shitty. VINTage 2k!

Evil Vito
08-17-2015, 09:38 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Really? I don't think they look all that bad. Way better than the CAWs available for them last year.</font>

Evil Vito
08-17-2015, 09:39 AM
<font color=goldenrod>I'm just glad Sting actually looks good this year. Was so disappointed with how half-assed his model was last year.</font>

#BROKEN Hasney
08-17-2015, 09:41 AM
Some jealous cunt broke Tylers nose. He is not gorgeous.

drave
08-17-2015, 09:56 AM
Renders are all good and stuff. Let's show those who weren't scanned, if any? Please don't let there be any......

Also, let's see some god damn gameplay FFS.

#BROKEN Hasney
08-17-2015, 10:01 AM
Renders are all good and stuff. Let's show those who weren't scanned, if any? Please don't let there be any......

Also, let's see some god damn gameplay FFS.

Well I doubt they exhumed the corpse of Warrior.

Gameplay was shown on the Balor/Rollins video. Basically, watch any video of 2k15 and add a couple of meters for new minigames and you have 2k16 gameplay.

drave
08-17-2015, 10:02 AM
Yea, I saw that gameplay which was alright. Balor seemed to have the right "mannerisms" or whatever.

Warrior looked fine last year. They can re-hash/improve it and it will look fine. I was more raging against the fucking WCW DLC they had that was fucking comical at best.

Could have done a better job using MS Paint and just fucking copypasta-ing a IRL pic of DDP

#BROKEN Hasney
08-17-2015, 10:03 AM
The saddest thing about the DDP model is that a PC modder did so much better.

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Evil Vito
08-17-2015, 10:09 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Slater and Ryder were in that group of "current guys who will miss the cut if they choose to leave out current people in spite of the huge roster". Los Matadores might still fit that category but I kinda doubt they'd go out of their way to omit only 2 people at this point. I don't really give a shit about them anyway.

Current jobbers like Axel, Fandango, and The Ascension were all in last year so I assumed at worst that they'd have their models recycled in again this year.</font>

DAMN iNATOR
08-17-2015, 03:37 PM
Los Matadorés have played a pretty huge role in the tag division this year, so I think it's a fairly safe bet they'll be in.

@drave, re: DDP -- Yeah...I've taken shits that look more realistic than his laughable 2K15 DLC model. Maybe this year we'll get "inspirational"/"motivational" DDP c.2002. I loved all his schtick with Christian, especially the segment where they're both in the locker room and Christian mocks DDP's smile, and then some kid comes in and calls Christian ugly, LOL.

Fignuts
08-17-2015, 07:05 PM
I really want more info on the creation suites. Like are there still only 25 caw slots? Did they just drop create an arena back in as it was, or did they improve on it?

I also want all my old entrance animations back , god damn it.

Frank Drebin
08-17-2015, 08:20 PM
You will get minimal information about everything but the roster AND LIKE IT

dronepool
08-17-2015, 08:28 PM
I'd rather the game look like WWF No Mercy if they change the engine to something better.

Evil Vito
08-17-2015, 08:52 PM
<font color=goldenrod>I really didn't think the gameplay was all that bad last year. It actually presented a challenge. I found My Career mode to be monotonous as all hell. Hopefully it's improved this year.</font>

Fignuts
08-17-2015, 09:50 PM
Really liked the gameplay last year, yeah.

Here's an idea though. More reversal animations, so every single counter isn't a russian or inverted russian leg sweep.

dronepool
08-18-2015, 08:04 PM
I haven't bought a WWE game since CM Punk was on the cover. Was last years less robotic looking?

DAMN iNATOR
08-18-2015, 09:46 PM
Nah, pretty generic...just Cena making a fist and staring "into the distance"...

Droford
08-18-2015, 09:47 PM
The face import thing looks interesting but I don't know how it'd work on a console

1QxA8XRySE0

Evil Vito
08-18-2015, 09:57 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Sweet, I'll actually be able to make myself. Absolutely terrible at making faces for CAWs.</font>

Kalyx triaD
08-18-2015, 10:12 PM
The face import thing looks interesting but I don't know how it'd work on a console

1QxA8XRySE0

By connecting to a network photos will be uploaded.

drave
08-19-2015, 05:38 AM
WWE2k15's "Face scanner" was shit. Hope this one actually works better.

Dukelorange
08-19-2015, 09:43 AM
It's looks okay, hopefully, all the creation stuff that was absent last year will be back. I'm a creation guy and I like creative freedom

DAMN iNATOR
08-19-2015, 05:33 PM
It's looks okay, hopefully, all the creation stuff that was absent last year will be back. I'm a creation guy and I like creative freedom

I enjoy the paint tool, but due to my lack of any real skill creating actual wrestlers, haven't used it that much over the years. I like how '09 allowed you to be able to mix and match certain clothing and physical features between divas and superstars, and wish they'd bring that aspect back.

Dukelorange
08-20-2015, 07:46 AM
I enjoy the paint tool, but due to my lack of any real skill creating actual wrestlers, haven't used it that much over the years. I like how '09 allowed you to be able to mix and match certain clothing and physical features between divas and superstars, and wish they'd bring that aspect back.

I dabble in the CAW e-federations. For the most part they are real nice. They things they create are some of the most creative things I've ever seen. This one guy has CAW whose attire looks like a collage of comic books. That type of creativity needs to be coupled with a powerful tool to create.

Emperor Smeat
08-20-2015, 08:44 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/jthawley06">@jthawley06</a> There will not be a special edition of WWE 2K16 in the U.S. this year. Pre-order <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE2K16?src=hash">#WWE2K16</a> at <a href="http://t.co/hf0H27CsED">http://t.co/hf0H27CsED</a></p>&mdash; WWE 2K (@WWEgames) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEgames/status/634066547200364545">August 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Evil Vito
08-20-2015, 08:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/w48uYDC.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>Well hey...at least the roster is big enough that they needed to go back to the old way of having a character select screen</font> :shifty:

#BROKEN Hasney
08-21-2015, 07:08 AM
Cacnelled pin is a nice touch.

http://i.imgur.com/Bmn54fL.gif

Evil Vito
08-21-2015, 08:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/IjKX14Y.jpg

poopfromweiner dude
08-21-2015, 01:48 PM
If its similar to the removal of men vs women matches, crowd fighting might have been a demand by the WWE to remove.

Do agree that the series itself has serious problems when it comes to consistency with features or expanding things. Even the idea of something as basic as "ref counting to 2" for pins was touted as something big for WWE 2k14 because of how badly it was botched in WWE 13.

TOUT

Evil Vito
08-21-2015, 03:55 PM
Cacnelled pin is a nice touch.

http://i.imgur.com/Bmn54fL.gif

<font color=goldenrod>I really like that. Stardust looks fucking spot on, too.

Loads of mongs online complaining that they preferred the normal cancelled pin because it allowed them to continue the match to increase the drama. Says something about a game when you need to artificially extend the match just to keep yourself interested.</font>

Kalyx triaD
08-21-2015, 05:25 PM
What's the difference here?

Evil Vito
08-21-2015, 05:37 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Right now the "cancel pin" feature just has the other guy kick out regularly. Seemingly the only reason to do it is to make the match longer than in needs to. Never really understood the need really. Especially since the hardest difficulty on 2k15 actually presented somewhat of a challenge.

At least the cancel pin motion this year is useful for trolling around with your friends online or something.</font>

Evil Vito
08-21-2015, 05:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/IjKX14Y.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>Seems they've been modeled after their WM31 attire as were Sting, Stardust, Rollins, and Reigns:

http://socialsuplex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/WM31_Photo_040-102044834.jpg

Suppose if you wanted to break the team up it'd be kinda annoying to need to make an attire for Kidd that doesn't have the tag titles across his crotch, but I doubt I'd break them up. Catsaro 4 life.</font>

What Would Kevin Do?
08-21-2015, 06:00 PM
Cesaro looks spot on. Kidd looks a little off.

Very curious if the paint rubbing off will work for CAWs, or just in-game people like Sting, Stardust, Balor, etc.

Droford
08-21-2015, 08:34 PM
The got JR for commentary in the Austin showcase mode

DAMN iNATOR
08-21-2015, 10:50 PM
Seems like they're really starting to push a lot closer to dsmn-near photorealism. Might not be quite there yet, but give them 2-5 more years and who knows how far they'll be able to push the envelope.

DAMN iNATOR
08-21-2015, 10:51 PM
The got JR for commentary in the Austin showcase mode

STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD!

Evil Vito
08-24-2015, 10:05 AM
http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2015/08/24/image-2015-08-17-17-37-07jpg-6c5fbe.jpg

http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/08/24/image-2015-08-17-18-17-23jpg-6c5fc0.jpg

http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2015/08/24/image-2015-08-17-19-11-10jpg-6c5fbf.jpg

http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2015/08/24/image-2015-08-17-20-25-21jpg-6c5fc4.jpg

http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/08/24/image-2015-08-17-20-21-38jpg-6c5fc3.jpg

Evil Vito
08-24-2015, 10:07 AM
<font color=goldenrod>And they posted an entrance vid of Kidd/Cesaro which confirms The Vaudevillians</font> :cool:

Evil Vito
08-24-2015, 10:29 AM
<font color=goldenrod>oh and continuing my theory that all of 2k15's DLC will be in the game...Finlay (with mullet), DDP, Bam Bam, and Luger are in.

Hope they've fixed DDP's hair.</font>

#BROKEN Hasney
08-24-2015, 10:55 AM
http://www.operationsports.com/features/2309/wwe-2k16-hands-on-impressions/

Some of the things that stood out right away were the entrance run-in/break out. We did a Finn Balor vs. Kevin Owens match, and while Balor was doing his entrance player two had the option to run in and attack. So Owens came out while Balor was on the entrance ramp starting off his entrance. It turned into a brawl from there and Balor kept on his demon entrance gear for the entire battle. Due to the nature of this event with loud music playing, we were unable to hear the referee telling us to get to the ring. So we had a jarring cutscene where Owens/Balor were at the ring and the ref was throwing out the match. I asked Little about this, and he explained that the ref is asking you to get the ring during the brawl. This goes both ways as well, so if you have already entered and player two is now doing his entrance, you can do a break out of the ring and attack him as well. This only happens in player vs. player matches -- and presumably Universe Mode. Little stated that this would not happen in one vs. one exhibition matches against the AI as the team wanted people to just have fun and not have random run-ins ruin the experience.

...

The chain grapple system is still in the game but is much refined. Heels act as heels now as I saw a few chain grapples where the heel pushed the face back to the corner and the ref got between the wrestlers. The heel then had the option to press a button and get a cheap punch in if he chose. And this is one thing that Little explained we would see throughout the game more, heels and faces would act as they should with personalities. Heels will try to cheat, even grab weapons in a normal match and risk a DQ; they will roll out of the ring instead of trying to fight; and they will do other “heelish” things throughout a match.

The reversal window is also better, and reversals feel more like a WWE match now. There are normal, minor and major reversals as well which will allow them to be chained together. However, once you get to a major reversal, the chain ends with no more reversal attempts able to be attempted.

The pin meter has been changed. It now sort of looks like the old Tiger Woods three-click swing box instead of just one spot to click. It basically works the same, but it takes up less real estate on the screen as well as feeling smoother. I obviously have not tried it online, but last year the big complaint online was the pin meter. I’m thinking with the new meter, it will be less of an issue. The meter also resets on every count -- and after a finisher the game did not start the meter until the two count.

...

One thing I could not figure out was the submission system. It feels a lot like the old UFC systems (from the old THQ games not the new EA one). Both wrestlers have a block on a circle, and you are moving them around to lock in and get the submission victory. I tried it several times and never could truly grasp how it worked. But to be fair, it was a very loud area where I was trying to play the game and could not focus on it as much as I could in say my home. I do think it will need more explanation going forward -- and maybe a quick tutorial in the game -- just to make sure everyone understands the new system as it’s a big departure from just hammering a button over and over again. That being said, even without understanding it fully, I welcome the change.

Some other tidbits I learned from talking to Mark Little:

-There are new OMG moments, but he wouldn’t spill the beans on what they are yet.

-Tag matches have been improved. The partners will actually get a bonus for staying in their corners when they should be to help the tag match feel more like they should.

-Managers have been improved, so like the wrestlers they have their own personalities now.

-There are new tag entrances. Cesaro/Kidd and the Lucaha Dragons both had their entrances.

-As of now, Seth Rollins still has the Curb Stomp as a finisher.

...

Steve Austin was revealed as the Showcase (story mode of the game), and it covers his career from WCW to ECW to WWF/E. The opening video was impressive (we could not hear it though), showing some major happenings in Austin’s career like the Hollywood Blondes with Brian Pillman and the strap match with Savio Vega. I don’t know if that confirms these wrestlers in the game, but it did make me assume they are in the final product.

I got to play one match of the mode, it obviously was in the WWF portion of his career as it was the King of the Ring finals match against Jake “The Snake” Roberts (also confirming him in the game). A very cool touch was that Jake came out clutching his side (he had his snake and all), and we got a look back from earlier tonight showing Vader crushing Jake in the corner causing the injury. It was a real motion video and really wowed me when it happened. The screen grain was also present as it was in former games to add to the authenticity.

I asked but was shot down on questions I know everyone reading this are going to have. This includes: online improvements, Universe improvements, creation suite improvements, and My Career improvements. All of these and others will be revealed at a later date.

WCW/ECW confirmed in Austins showcase and that has to as good as confirms Pillman & Savio Vega.

Evil Vito
08-24-2015, 11:22 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Awesome...I just assumed that WCW/ECW would be glossed over with no actual matches from there.

Think I'd enjoy career retrospectives move than rivalry mode.

Also I hope we can beat the shit out of Michael Hayes.</font>

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNLflzcVEAAdw7_.jpg

Mercenary
08-24-2015, 12:19 PM
The Vaudevillians intro pretty sweet too

Evil Vito
08-24-2015, 03:49 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Vaudevillians intro is pretty much spot on. So glad they made it.</font>

Dukelorange
08-25-2015, 03:08 PM
The Vaudevillians intro pretty sweet too

I hope on the CAW create an entrance I can use Tyler Breeze's entrance and broadcast my face on the tron... LOL

What Would Kevin Do?
08-25-2015, 07:38 PM
So in one of the new videos it shows clips of Kevin Owens fighting Finn Balor... One of the moves Kevin Owens does is his little package piledriver fakeout where he turns it into a side slam type move... The first time I ever saw him do that was in his first match against Cena.

If that's the case, 2k is doing pretty damn good and getting new moves in the game.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-26-2015, 12:15 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Awesome...I just assumed that WCW/ECW would be glossed over with no actual matches from there.

Think I'd enjoy career retrospectives move than rivalry mode.

Also I hope we can beat the shit out of Michael Hayes.</font>

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNLflzcVEAAdw7_.jpg

Dok Hendrix.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-26-2015, 12:15 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Vaudevillians intro is pretty much spot on. So glad they made it.</font>

They are too close together when the spotlight is shown but it's pretty much perfect.

GD
08-26-2015, 01:44 AM
http://i.imgur.com/IjKX14Y.jpg

God, those logo-less headphones look awful.

#BROKEN Hasney
08-26-2015, 02:24 AM
God, those logo-less headphones look awful.

Yeah, but you've always been a brand tart. Better than paying cash just for a b.

GD
08-26-2015, 02:32 AM
I understand that. It's just that I believe that they would look more appealing with even a logo / design from the CAW mode.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/dbKaV6k5gk0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

#BROKEN Hasney
08-26-2015, 03:01 AM
They will likely be entrance attire so you can add the logo yourself even.

GD
08-26-2015, 03:57 AM
Sure.

Emperor Smeat
08-27-2015, 09:05 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm delighted to let you that I will be a part of WWE2K16! You'll hear me announce in the Showcase Mode!! <a href="https://t.co/xPlKyGvpD0">https://t.co/xPlKyGvpD0</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE2K16?src=hash">#WWE2K16</a></p>&mdash; Howard Finkel (@howardfinkel) <a href="https://twitter.com/howardfinkel/status/636927674708021249">August 27, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Evil Vito
08-27-2015, 09:31 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Loads of people outraged at the fact that custom music will, again, not be in the current gen versions of the game.

Not sure why. It's pretty clear that Sony and Microsoft have no real desire to let people not use their own music services. I've given up hope that the ability to rip custom music into games will ever happen again. It was a great feature to have in WWE games and MLB The Show but whatever, hardly something that kills the immersion.</font>

Fignuts
08-27-2015, 09:41 PM
Yeah, sucks balls but are you gonna do? Not 2k's fault.

Kalyx triaD
08-27-2015, 09:51 PM
Gaaaaay

DAMN iNATOR
08-28-2015, 03:16 AM
Well...good to see 2K hates $$$ so much.

What Would Kevin Do?
08-28-2015, 07:56 AM
Apparently you can "dye" hair. So after you pick the main color, you can go over specific parts to make them a different color, so you can do Seth ROllins or Alexa Bliss type hair

Evil Vito
08-28-2015, 07:12 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LP3Z_4iTumU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<font color=goldenrod>Back to 100 save slots. Fuck yeah.</font>

Kalyx triaD
08-28-2015, 07:19 PM
Nice.

Lack of custom themes suck but there's some goodies here.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-28-2015, 07:33 PM
Well...good to see 2K hates $$$ so much.

Custom music isn't that big of a deal. Just play music when you are playing.

Kalyx triaD
08-28-2015, 08:06 PM
We're talking music for CAWs, right?

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-28-2015, 08:07 PM
Yeah but you can play the music yourself and it'll sound better/louder.

Kalyx triaD
08-28-2015, 08:21 PM
Are you serious?

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-28-2015, 08:26 PM
You guys are too bitchy. Big fucking deal. You're Frankenstein Rated 100s don't come out to your lousy music.

Kalyx triaD
08-28-2015, 08:29 PM
Them being silly or the music not being your tastes are none of your concern. You are dismissing a blatant limitation.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-28-2015, 08:35 PM
You probably wouldn't get to choose your music if you were a new superstar.

Kalyx triaD
08-28-2015, 09:08 PM
You are off the chain.

Mercenary
08-28-2015, 09:47 PM
It's only music you all need to chill out.

Fignuts
08-28-2015, 10:09 PM
Well...good to see 2K hates $$$ so much.

Again.

Not 2k's fault. As stated literally several posts above yours, and many times before. Why is this not sinking in with everyone?

Fignuts
08-28-2015, 10:10 PM
Also, this def sucks but is by no means a deal breaker.

Evil Vito
08-28-2015, 10:14 PM
<font color=goldenrod>I'm sure editing a superstar's attire will take up a save slot again but with 100 slots now there's more temptation to keep everyone up to date since you'll still have room.

And if you didn't want to use any CAW spots on attire edits, you could have a roster of 220+ characters. That's pretty fucking fantastic.</font>

Fignuts
08-28-2015, 10:29 PM
Yeah the 100 slots is huge even without proper music

Fignuts
08-29-2015, 12:29 AM
Apparently you can "dye" hair. So after you pick the main color, you can go over specific parts to make them a different color, so you can do Seth ROllins or Alexa Bliss type hair

You can also add texture to clothing, like a metallic or gloss finish. Which is great because in the past no matter how accurate an attire was it would still look off without the right texture.

Evil Vito
08-29-2015, 12:47 AM
<font color=goldenrod>The more I think about it, the more I wonder if WCW/ECW are actually in the game for the Austin mode or if that type of stuff was just included in the opening video package to give some backstory before the mode starts. I mean if you include some of the bigger moments from Austin's runs with those companies you'd be looking at putting wrestlers like Bobby Eaton, Paul Roma, and Mikey Whipwreck into a game in 2015. It just...feels weird. Hell the idea of Savio Vega making it into a game in 2015 feels weird.

Could totally see all of that just being the opening video and then the first proper match of the mode is the KOTR 96 one that was shown. I assume Pillman will make the game but more for their interactions in 1997.</font>

DAMN iNATOR
08-29-2015, 06:23 AM
That would be nice but I'm guessing the earliest they'll start it out will be his WWF debut. I wouldn't be opposed to them letting people start at the beginning of Austin competing in his first round match of KotR, and having players feel like they were actually him winning it all and creating "Austin 3:16" and the "Stone Cold" persona.

Fignuts
08-29-2015, 01:57 PM
Yeah was thinking that. Sucks cause I would love a wcw saturday night arena

#BROKEN Hasney
08-29-2015, 04:46 PM
No Whipwreck or Dangerous Alliance = No buys

Well, I mean I probably wouldn't buy it full price regardless because $60 seems a bit steep for just laughing at some hilariously broken physics, but I'd buy it at some point with one of those things.

Evil Vito
08-30-2015, 12:29 AM
<font color=goldenrod>I feel I've missed out on the broken 2k15 physics :( seen loads of pics/vids but when I've played I've never really seen an issue crop up. Then again I never play it for very long because I get bored.</font>

Fignuts
08-30-2015, 12:34 AM
Yeah, never experienced any weird bugs myself.

DAMN iNATOR
08-30-2015, 01:30 AM
When I'm EXTREMELY bored I'll fish out my 360 copy and play the NXT Proving Ground thing where you take 1 of the 5 or 6 NXT guys against Cena and try to beat him as fast as possible.

Seems quite sad that I find that more entertaining than both Showcases and Universe Mode combined.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-30-2015, 01:54 AM
Should be called CenaWinsLOL Mode.

DAMN iNATOR
08-30-2015, 06:26 AM
Should be called CenaWinsLOL Mode.

Not really...I've defeated him with Bo Dallas in 10:11...was actually surprised I took him down that quick.

UPDATE: LMAO, YAAAAASSSSSS! Beat him with Neville in 8:40...but only got a "B+" final grade. I still have yet to attempt beating him with Graves.

UPDATE #2: Just beat him with Zayn in 7:30. WOOO!

Evil Vito
08-31-2015, 09:15 AM
http://i58.tinypic.com/9puil5.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/207tgno.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XIrva44.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JwaOoqc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iPVANX3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VditCt3.jpg

Evil Vito
08-31-2015, 10:24 AM
<font color=goldenrod>So this week's reveals:

Andre the Giant
Batista
Chris Jericho
Curtis Axel
Edge
Erick Rowan
Fandango
JBL
Luke Harper
Natalya
Randy Savage
Rick Rude
R-Truth
Ryback
Santino Marella
Sgt. Slaughter
Stephanie McMahon
The Rock
The Undertaker

Well...not a single surprise in this group but whatever. It's been clear for a while now that they're porting over basically anybody still on good terms with the company from the 2k15 roster/DLC.</font>

Evil Vito
08-31-2015, 10:35 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Doing a quick overview of the entire roster announced to this point to try to see who else might make it in. Right now it's up to 79 that have been confirmed (spoilered for length):

Adam Rose
Aiden English
Alicia Fox
Andre the Giant
Bad News Barrett
Bam Bam Bigelow
Batista
Big Show
Bo Dallas
Booker T
Brie Bella
Brock Lesnar
Cameron
Cesaro
Chris Jericho
Colonel Mustafa
Curtis Axel
Daniel Bryan
Darren Young
Dean Ambrose
Diamond Dallas Page
Dolph Ziggler
Edge
Emma
Erick Rowan
Eva Marie
Fandango
Finlay
Finn Bálor
General Adnan
Goldust
Heath Slater
Hideo Itami
Jack Swagger
Jake Roberts
JBL
John Cena
Kalisto
Kane
Kevin Nash
Kevin Owens
Layla
Lex Luger
Lord Steven Regal
Luke Harper
Naomi
Natalya
Neville
Nikki Bella
Paige
Randy Orton
Randy Savage
Ric Flair
Rick Rude
Roman Reigns
R-Truth
Ryback
Sami Zayn
Santino Marella
Seth Rollins
Sgt. Slaughter
Sheamus
Simon Gotch
Sin Cara
Stardust
Stephanie McMahon
Sting
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Summer Rae
Tamina
The Miz
The Rock
The Undertaker
Titus O'Neil
Triple H
Tyler Breeze
Tyson Kidd
Ultimate Warrior
Zack Ryder

Of that group, only 14 weren't in last year. It seems pretty clear by now that anybody from 2k15 who is still on good terms with WWE is being ported over. That's part of the reason they were able to make the roster so big.

We can safely rule out Hogan, Punk, Del Rio, Mysterio, and Gabriel. AJ Lee is still a possibility as she wrestled at WM 31 and didn't really leave WWE on bad terms, but given that she's Mrs. Punk I'll leave her out. That leaves the following yet to be announced from last year's game:

Big E
Bray Wyatt
Christian
Corey Graves
Damien Sandow
Honky Tonk Man
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Kofi Kingston
Konnor
Mark Henry
Rob Van Dam
Rusev
Shawn Michaels
The Great Khali
Viktor
Xavier Woods

If they're all in, that brings the roster to 96 and includes the entire active male roster as of WM except for Los Matadores. I can't really think of a good reason why they'd be the only current guys left out when even Slater and Ryder made it in, so let's figure they're in to bump it to 98.

We're probably not through with NXT inclusions. Charlotte, Corbin, and Enzo/Cass have their shirts spotted in the NXT crowd. Sasha supposedly confirmed she was scanned for the game.

I've seen people speculate that 2k were using February's NXT Takeover Rival as their basis for who to put in the game. I don't know if it's true, but so far all of the NXT reveals have matched up with people who were on that show and it's a fun thought, so screw it...let's put them all in:

Baron Corbin
Bayley
Becky Lynch
Blake
Bull Dempsey
Charlotte
Colin Cassady
Enzo Amore
Murphy
Sasha Banks

And that brings the roster up to 108. The remaining spots to get to 120 unique characters would be for Austin's Showcase mode. Vince, Bret, LOD, Pillman, and probably at least 2 Foley personas would be in to go along with Austin, Roberts, and different alts for guys like Rock, Taker, HBK, HHH, Kane, etc. No idea who else they'll put into that mode since it's not clear how in-depth it will be.

Can't rule out some of those extra NXT inclusions actually being DLC to make way for more Austin Showcase characters. Still think Samoa Joe will be the headliner for a NXT-focused DLC pack. We'll see.</font>

Disturbed316
09-01-2015, 02:42 AM
If Samoa Joe made it I think I would freak out.

DAMN iNATOR
09-01-2015, 03:31 AM
He might be DLC, I'd have to guess...he did only very recently sign with the company. I also wouldn't be adverse to seeing Rhyno as a DLC guy.

Disturbed316
09-01-2015, 04:36 AM
I find it odd that Rowan's mask is more detailed than Harpers head, it looks too smooth.

Having Rhyno would be pretty awesome. If they've managed to get updated Taker etc then having Joe in the main roster is a possibility, but doubtful.

Evil Vito
09-01-2015, 09:07 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah Joe just screams DLC to me. Perfect guy to center a pack around. Hopefully they don't make him the "Season Pass Exclusive" or some shit like Paige last year.

Would love The Brian Kendrick being DLC too given he's back with the company, even though he wound up only appearing on NXT for a brief time.</font>

#BROKEN Hasney
09-01-2015, 04:36 PM
PSN pre-order is up, featuring a MyPlayer kickstarter. Praise 2k, microtransactions are here!

Wishbone
09-01-2015, 11:59 PM
PSN pre-order is up, featuring a MyPlayer kickstarter. Praise 2k, microtransactions are here!

What the hell is a "MyPlayer" and why does it need a kickstarter?

Mercenary
09-02-2015, 03:49 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1tX19_3-3Kg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Brock looks weird like his face is all squashed together

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-02-2015, 03:53 PM
What the hell is a "MyPlayer" and why does it need a kickstarter?

Career mode.

Not Kickstarter as in the crowd-funding. It's paid bonuses to upgrade your player like MyCoins in NBA2k.

XL
09-02-2015, 05:50 PM
Nice that the managers actually walk down the ramp now.

DAMN iNATOR
09-02-2015, 06:38 PM
PSN pre-order is up, featuring a MyPlayer kickstarter. Praise 2k, microtransactions are here!

Wow! That AND not being able to use custom soundtracks as entrance music? HOW CAN I CONTAIN MY EXCITEMENT?! :roll:

Wishbone
09-02-2015, 06:51 PM
Career mode.

Not Kickstarter as in the crowd-funding. It's paid bonuses to upgrade your player like MyCoins in NBA2k.

Ah, I've never played an NBA game so I had no clue. Looks like just another point in the "do not buy" column. Gonna take a lot to get me interested in a WWE game ever again honestly.

Wishbone
09-02-2015, 06:53 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1tX19_3-3Kg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Brock looks weird like his face is all squashed together

Was thinking that myself. Seems like he ate something super sour and his face got stuck that way.

DAMN iNATOR
09-02-2015, 08:46 PM
<font color=goldenrod>I feel I've missed out on the broken 2k15 physics :( seen loads of pics/vids but when I've played I've never really seen an issue crop up. Then again I never play it for very long because I get bored.</font>

Consider yourself fortunate. They're not as prominent as the most exaggerative of players would suggest but they are there...collision detection sometimes, clipping into out of things, and sometimes during "extreme rules" matches or whatever, if you drop a weapon outside a corner of the ring and you or an opponent get out on that side, sometimes the weapon(s) will randomly flip high into the air because of bad physics and/or geometry or whatever.

Also, it seems that a lot of the titles are not called by the right name by the ring announcer during entrances for matches with certain titles on the line.

Fignuts
09-02-2015, 11:41 PM
Yo, you can f5 two people at once.

DAMN iNATOR
09-03-2015, 01:00 AM
MEH...wake me when I can F-5 a shark.

Fignuts
09-03-2015, 01:04 AM
Make sharkboy

Fignuts
09-03-2015, 01:48 AM
Austin's wcw/ecw career is represented in video recap only.

Would have been nice get something new rather than the same shit we've seen before, even if it was a little bit. Fuck.

Disturbed316
09-03-2015, 02:12 AM
So it will basically be Attitude mode from a few years back.....

drave
09-03-2015, 08:59 AM
Moving more toward "bargain bin" buy.

screech
09-03-2015, 09:08 AM
Still getting this mainly for Terminator.

Plus I haven't had a WWE game since 12, so an updated roster and "new" modes will be fun for me.

Evil Vito
09-03-2015, 09:09 AM
<font color=goldenrod>mehhhhhh @ Austin mode only covering WWF, even though I expected it. And apparently that match vs. Jake at KOTR 96 really is the first match in the mode, so no Savio Vega either.

Would be more excited about the mode if it led to Owen Hart and/or Kurt Angle being in the game. Martha is allowing WWE to do a Owen documentary and Angle could have had a separate deal with 2k much like Hogan did when with TNA. Feel like either man would have been announced way earlier, though.</font>

Cool King
09-03-2015, 09:22 AM
Moving more toward "bargain bin" buy.

Moving more towards "not buying" for me.

Evil Vito
09-03-2015, 10:50 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Will probably just wind up being given the game for Christmas so it's whatever.</font>

Fignuts
09-03-2015, 02:19 PM
It's disappointing but showcase mode's quality was never a determining factor for me. I play that kind of stuff once, and then move on to stuff like universe and career.

Other new stuff they've shown so far has me cautiously optimistic. Need info soon on universe though. Worried they just dumped it back in as is, like 2k15.

Frank Drebin
09-03-2015, 08:14 PM
Feel like if they actually did something with Universe mode, they would have been touting it by now. Probably just going to get roster info (OMG GUYZ LOOK EL TORITO IZ IN!!) and a few gameplay vids (IMPROVED PSYCHICS AND MORE BALANCED GAMEPLAY!!!) and thats it until release. Universe mode will be a footnote. At least we can give a created wrestle 2 hair colors :|

Fignuts
09-04-2015, 01:55 AM
Custom championships are back.

Disturbed316
09-04-2015, 03:04 AM
Yay, another create feature I never bothered using after the first time!

DAMN iNATOR
09-04-2015, 05:15 AM
It's disappointing but showcase mode's quality was never a determining factor for me. I play that kind of stuff once, and then move on to stuff like universe and career.

Other new stuff they've shown so far has me cautiously optimistic. Need info soon on universe though. Worried they just dumped it back in as is, like 2k15.

The one saving grace of Universe Mode in 2K15 is the ability to unlock new story elements in the story collection menu via playing "Rivalry Matches". Once unlocked, you can assign those stories to applicable rivalries.

Dukelorange
09-04-2015, 07:57 AM
Can someone explain to me how to import logos into the new game if it is the same as 2K15. More to the point, do you think you can create attires from scratch?

DAMN iNATOR
09-04-2015, 02:12 PM
Still getting this mainly for Terminator.

Plus I haven't had a WWE game since 12, so an updated roster and "new" modes will be fun for me.

I mean, it's your money, and I respect that, but you could save serious dough and get a much better experience out of WWE '13 if you have a 360/PS3.

Just throwing that out there.

screech
09-04-2015, 02:15 PM
TERMINATOR

DAMN iNATOR
09-04-2015, 02:19 PM
Yeah, I don't think that's what the #1 factor in most of the pre-orders has been up to now. Feel free to prove me wrong, though.

The Destroyer
09-04-2015, 02:46 PM
I'll probably end up buying it out of a sense of obligation.

screech
09-05-2015, 09:48 AM
Yeah, I don't think that's what the #1 factor in most of the pre-orders has been up to now. Feel free to prove me wrong, though.

It is the number one factor for my preorder. What needs to be proven? Why everyone else is preordering? I don't care about that.

Mercenary
09-05-2015, 11:28 AM
It is the number one factor for my preorder. What needs to be proven? Why everyone else is preordering? I don't care about that.


Terminator is a character I will use most likely once. So not a big factor in me getting the game at all

screech
09-05-2015, 12:29 PM
I plan to TERMINATE everyone

Mercenary
09-05-2015, 12:48 PM
https://instagram.com/p/7PB6VPFUQL/

A pic of the create a diva

Frank Drebin
09-05-2015, 01:16 PM
Been playing alot of the ultimate team mode in madden. Wondering if something similar could be possible for wwe games if they aren't going to revamp universe mode.

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-05-2015, 01:23 PM
They could do a cross-game thing with WWE SuperCard.

DAMN iNATOR
09-05-2015, 03:31 PM
They did that last year with 2K15, when they first introduced "Survivor" tier in SuperCard in conjunction with Survivor Series. They even also created a SV Sting card.

Mercenary
09-05-2015, 04:09 PM
They could do a cross-game thing with WWE SuperCard.

Supercard is more broken then anything. So how about no.

KIRA
09-05-2015, 04:46 PM
Supercard is more broken then anything. So how about no.

All I want in this game are Brian Pillman and Raven(and in a fair world Lodi) but mainly those first two.

Optimus Bone 69
09-05-2015, 07:56 PM
listen you can all moan about this and that but i am living a life of truth and just like the last decade or so im gonna get my hopes up buy on day of release and be quietly fecking gutted
but one day i wont be

DAMN iNATOR
09-06-2015, 02:14 AM
listen you can all moan about this and that but i am living a life of truth and just like the last decade or so im gonna get my hopes up buy on day of release and be quietly fecking gutted
but one day i wont be

Yeah, you DO know they call it "Buyer's Remorse" for a reason, right?

#CaveatEmptor

#BROKEN Hasney
09-07-2015, 09:17 AM
http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2015/09/07/image-2015-09-01-18-25-05-minjpg-9f7b41.jpg
http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/09/07/image-2015-09-02-04-29-39-minjpg-9f7b43.jpg
http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2015/09/07/image-2015-09-02-03-55-10-minjpg-9f7b42.jpg
http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/09/07/image-2015-08-20-16-54-02-minjpg-32ca20.jpg
http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2015/09/07/image-2015-08-19-21-40-10-minjpg-8bb64a.jpg
http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2015/09/07/image-2015-08-19-19-17-52-minjpg-32ca1f.jpg
http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/09/07/image-2015-08-19-19-46-56-minjpg-32ca1e.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/nn3cep.jpg

Evil Vito
09-07-2015, 09:19 AM
http://i.imgur.com/mLMcB53.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/o8j3ptZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GGC4LFo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/B5slkUK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SLnZuZI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ylBsv44.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/d3JDcCD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jrA1UNS.jpg

Evil Vito
09-07-2015, 09:19 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Fuck, should have known Hasney was posting them when I saw him in the thread too.</font> :mad:

Kalyx triaD
09-07-2015, 09:21 AM
Given that Dude Love was himself a parody of gimmicks, it kinda floors me how many games he's appeared in. Cactus Jack is an international legend, and Mankind's a WWE classic. Mick Foley is himself a legend without the gimmicks. But Dude Love did not warrant appearing in so many games. I don't mind it just seemed odd.

Evil Vito
09-07-2015, 09:24 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Totally gonna do a Nation vs. New Day feud.</font>

#BROKEN Hasney
09-07-2015, 09:28 AM
Given that Dude Love was himself a parody of gimmicks, it kinda floors me how many games he's appeared in. Cactus Jack is an international legend, and Mankind's a WWE classic. Mick Foley is himself a legend without the gimmicks. But Dude Love did not warrant appearing in so many games. I don't mind it just seemed odd.

Eh, he was Stone Colds first major feud once he got the belt. plus, he's easy to put in if you already have Cactus Jack.

#BROKEN Hasney
09-07-2015, 09:36 AM
Also, really hoping D'Lo has the chest protector as an alternate attire.

Evil Vito
09-07-2015, 10:09 AM
<font color=goldenrod>And the official reveals:

Billy Gunn
Bret Hart
British Bulldog
Cactus Jack
Christian
Damien Sandow
D'Lo Brown
Dude Love
Faarooq
Haku
Honky Tonk Man
Jake Roberts
Jim Neidhart
Kama Mustafa
Ken Shamrock
Mankind
Paul Wight
Rikishi
Shane McMahon
Shawn Michaels
Vader
Vince McMahon
X-Pac</font>

Evil Vito
09-07-2015, 10:10 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Ughhhhhhhhhhh @ Paul Wight counting as a unique model from Big Show. Come on, how long was he even known as Paul Wight in WWF?

But MOTHERFUCKING MENG!!!</font>

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/09/2kWWE_keyArt_Haku_01_f1.2-min-720x925.jpg

Evil Vito
09-07-2015, 10:17 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Also Billy Gunn's render appears to be "The One" Billy Gunn. Makes sense as he and Haku were in near the end of the 2001 Rumble with Austin.</font>

#BROKEN Hasney
09-07-2015, 10:42 AM
<font color=goldenrod>
But MOTHERFUCKING MENG!!!</font>


*Haku

Cool King
09-07-2015, 11:16 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Ughhhhhhhhhhh @ Paul Wight counting as a unique model from Big Show. Come on, how long was he even known as Paul Wight in WWF?

Well, I can't say I'm surprised.

Called it exactly two months ago.

Although, 2K have made it clear that the game is going to have "Over 120 unique models"... ...I can see them being sneaky and having Big Show under the name he debuted with, Paul Wight.

#BROKEN Hasney
09-07-2015, 11:18 AM
IGN said on their initial article that anyone with a different name would be classed as a separate character.

What's the betting on Corporate Kane being an official name?

Evil Vito
09-07-2015, 11:25 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Oh I knew that Paul Wight being in was totally feasible, it just seems funny cause precisely nobody would care if they just lumped him under Big Show. The announcers could still say "oh my god it's Paul Wight!"</font>

Evil Vito
09-07-2015, 11:27 AM
IGN said on their initial article that anyone with a different name would be classed as a separate character.

What's the betting on Corporate Kane being an official name?

<font color=goldenrod>I'm kinda assuming that the different versions of Kane, Taker, Rock etc. are actually going to be separate character slots as opposed to pure alt attires, but they aren't counted towards the "unique character" thing for the purposes of their countdown.

Otherwise theoretically biker Taker would end up coming out to modern Taker's entrance, etc.</font>

Mercenary
09-07-2015, 12:05 PM
Dlo and Haku.................YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!


Dp we get to paralyze Droz?

whiteyford
09-07-2015, 12:39 PM
listen you can all moan about this and that but i am living a life of truth and just like the last decade or so im gonna get my hopes up buy on day of release and be quietly fecking gutted
but one day i wont be

The most accurate Scottish post ever, I'm also gonna live in hope.

What Would Kevin Do?
09-07-2015, 01:12 PM
Honestly, 2k is doing pretty damn good with the roster. Keeping (almost) everyone in from last year was a smart move. And including people like Haku, D'Lo, Kama, and Vader is awesome. I know people want updates to the gameplay, which I get, but I love making people, and more people mean more base outfits and more moves, which helps diversify characters.

Also Brian Pillman better be in this.

XL
09-07-2015, 02:05 PM
Bret actually looks like Bret!

Fignuts
09-07-2015, 02:12 PM
And they havr his kickass wm 13 attire too.

KIRA
09-07-2015, 04:11 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Ughhhhhhhhhhh @ Paul Wight counting as a unique model from Big Show. Come on, how long was he even known as Paul Wight in WWF?

But MOTHERFUCKING MENG!!!</font>

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/09/2kWWE_keyArt_Haku_01_f1.2-min-720x925.jpg

Fuck yea!

KIRA
09-07-2015, 04:13 PM
C'mon Pillman and Raven C'MON!

MoFo
09-07-2015, 07:01 PM
Can't wait to bite peoples faces off with Haku

MoFo
09-07-2015, 07:02 PM
I hope Brawl for All is a game mode so I can put all the hard pipe hittin niggas in

drave
09-07-2015, 09:01 PM
Through all the models thus far, how in the actual fuck did they manage to screw up Lesnar's face?

DAMN iNATOR
09-07-2015, 10:03 PM
*Haku

Gesundheit.

Dukelorange
09-09-2015, 11:06 AM
I have logos that I made on WWE 2K14. Is there anyway I can get those logos off my 360 and upload them to 2k16 when it comes out?

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-09-2015, 01:06 PM
maybe take a photo of them and upload the photo?

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-09-2015, 01:08 PM
Or just copy down all of the numbers of the logo and make it again.

Dukelorange
09-09-2015, 03:04 PM
See I saw how you could import logos using a USB stick. I was wondering if you could reverse the process...

The first step to import was to save a blank slate then save that to a USB stick and use a program to open it.

I figure the same could be done to a custom logo, but save it as a gif or bmp file in the same program and upload the photo.

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-09-2015, 03:10 PM
I don't think WWE Games files logo work like there being a seperate file for everything. Maybe.

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-09-2015, 03:12 PM
You got the one now?

Dukelorange
09-10-2015, 07:53 AM
You got the one now?

Yes....

So to edit attires is GIMP the best free program to use?

Mercenary
09-11-2015, 01:19 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/3kk8qf/2k_absolutely_killed_it_with_austins_showcase/

Evil Vito
09-12-2015, 07:30 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/GIULzhA_4WA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-12-2015, 08:15 PM
Fuck yeahhhh that's what should have happened in 2001. Meng-a-mania is gonna run wild on WWE Universe mode.

Frank Drebin
09-13-2015, 11:15 PM
So tomorrow is the last of the roster reveal. I hope they have more to sell us on because right now this is an emphatic "pass"

Mercenary
09-14-2015, 04:12 AM
So tomorrow is the last of the roster reveal. I hope they have more to sell us on because right now this is an emphatic "pass"

Who the fuck are you kidding? You were not going to buy it any ways.

Heisenberg
09-14-2015, 09:17 AM
Wish they would have a built in option to commentate on finished matches and share to your friends. It would eliminate having to upload, download and move around

Evil Vito
09-14-2015, 09:56 AM
http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/09/14/image-2015-08-20-21-58-10jpg-9b27a9.jpg

http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/09/14/image-2015-08-20-21-47-07jpg-b69c37.jpg

http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2015/09/14/image-2015-08-20-22-12-05jpg-9b27aa.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>HOLY FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK</font>

Evil Vito
09-14-2015, 09:57 AM
http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2015/09/14/image-2015-09-09-18-31-58jpg-9b27ab.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>HOW YOU DOIN'?</font>

Evil Vito
09-14-2015, 10:23 AM
<font color=goldenrod>And the final batch of reveals:

American Bad Ass Undertaker
Baron Corbin
Big E
Bray Wyatt
Brian Pillman
Colin Cassady
Enzo Amore
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Kofi Kingston
Konnor
Mark Henry
Mikey Whipwreck
Ministry Undertaker
Ricky Steamboat
Rusev
Savio Vega
Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley
Sting 99
Sting Blonde
Stunning Steve Austin
Viktor
Xavier Woods</font>

Evil Vito
09-14-2015, 10:25 AM
<font color=goldenrod>lolllllllll so wait.....they count Kane, HHH, Rock, etc. as one character when they clearly are going to have alts but count Sting and Taker as 3 separate characters respectively</font>

#BROKEN Hasney
09-14-2015, 12:37 PM
YAY WHIPWRECK

Still don't understand how this showcase is going to work if this is the roster though. No Sandman or Dangerous Alliance but WHIPWRECK made it?

Evil Vito
09-14-2015, 01:32 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I dunno. Clearly Austin/Steamboat for the US Title and then Austin/Whipwreck in ECW.

No Sandman makes me sad though. :( Never got a chance to play as him, the one WWE game he was in (SVR08 or something) was the one game in the series I never bothered playing.</font>

Evil Vito
09-14-2015, 01:33 PM
<font color=goldenrod>also LOL @ Los Matadores being irrelevant enough that they couldn't even make a game that included literally everybody else on the active roster as of WM including a ton of NXT wrestlers

They probably just didn't want to have to add El Torito as a manager.</font>

Dukelorange
09-14-2015, 01:54 PM
<font color=goldenrod>also LOL @ Los Matadores being irrelevant enough that they couldn't even make a game that included literally everybody else on the active roster as of WM including a ton of NXT wrestlers

They probably just didn't want to have to add El Torito as a manager.</font>

They still have to have DLC... I figure NXT divas will be DLC and Los Matadores will be in another pack with additional moves.

Emperor Smeat
09-14-2015, 02:31 PM
<font color=goldenrod>also LOL @ Los Matadores being irrelevant enough that they couldn't even make a game that included literally everybody else on the active roster as of WM including a ton of NXT wrestlers

They probably just didn't want to have to add El Torito as a manager.</font>

Considering the WWE is rumored to be repackaging them as a team, probably a good thing they didn't get included. Roster won't be instantly outdated for the current guys as a result like with past games.