ROH on COMET (and TNA on pop)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, Jay Lethal is only 30.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Dude's tearing it up. I want to see Sinclair smash some money into ROH and try and get him some top competition and expand ROH.

[Simple Fan]

Agree with the ROH expansion. Feel like they could draw bigger arenas, not WWE big but get out of the small warehouse looking arenas. They have a great working agreement with NJPW and is booked pretty good. Lethal has been booked great since he got to ROH. I'm very interested to see who takes the belts off him but would like to see him hold them for a while. I think Moose would be a good candidate as well as Adam Cole.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I have to be honest -- I hate it when they have two belts on a guy. Let's say Moose beats Jay Lethal for the TV Title. That means Moose beats the World Champion. So surely it makes sense that he gets a World Title shot right? But then let's say Lethal keeps the World Title. He just took that big win away from Moose. If you've got two belts, you have the chance to be making two guys.

They've got Lethal defending the TV Title against Bobby Fish at an upcoming show in Texas. Kyle O'Reilly is challenging for the World Title. I'm not entirely in sync with ROH's booking style, but I think it could be damaging to have Lethal beat both Fish and O'Reilly in the same night -- especially given that reDRagon just put over The Young Bucks at a house show, and O'Reilly has been teaming with Adam Cole on a couple of occasions recently.

I'd have Lethal defeat Fish in the TV Title match. But seeing an opportunity, some wacky backstage off-camera shenanigans go on. In the main event, Bobby Fish shows up and costs Kyle O'Reilly the match. Lethal and Truth Martini have convinced Fish that if O'Reilly beats Lethal and Fish couldn't -- his career is dead in the water. Maybe they hand Fish a big lump of money to sweeten the deal. This sets up Fish vs. O'Reilly as a big feud.

Lethal is then obviously moving towards a title program with Roderick Strong, meanwhile Dalton Castle and The Boys are training Silas Young up to take the TV Title off Lethal so that Castle can again contend for it.

[Simple Fan]

Dalton Castle recently spoke with Ring Rust Radio, here are the highlights…

On working with Jushin Liger and what he learned: Do you remember the way you felt when you saw Jushin Thunder live? Do you remember when he hit that ring the way you felt as a fan? Do you remember that giddiness you felt inside? The butterflies in your belly, the excitement, the smile that you couldn’t wipe off your face? Now trying doing that but being inside the ring he gets in. It’s tough to focus on an opponent when you grew up watching him. What I have learned is to stop liking people. You lose some focus if you do.

On preparing for big matches: Well, I guess I can’t treat a match different. Each match I treat kind of the same. I want to be the best, I want to win, I want it all. If I’m not putting as much focus in one match as I am in the other, then I am going to slip up and something bad is going to happen. With that being said, going up against Lethal and Cole, two people I truly do respect as performers and wrestlers, I do focus a little bit harder. I get a little bit nervous but the bottom line is I have been doing this for a while, I know what I am doing, I am fearless, and I am a hell of an athlete. So I always try to remind myself of how good I actually am and that calms me down a little bit.

What went into creating the Dalton Castle persona and were there any inspirations: Well, I have been building this for several years. You start wrestling, you learn the moves, and then you learn how to carry yourself through a match, and frustration builds when you don’t get the attention that you think you deserve. You try something new and you try something else new and I didn’t see myself getting the focus that I thought I needed or wanted or craved. I needed that attention so I kept thinking about how could I get more eyes on me, how can I stand out, and what are people not doing that I can do? You add a little bit here, you put on a suit, you add a boy or two, and things kind of fall into place. It didn’t happen overnight that’s for sure. As far as influences or who helped paved the way? It wasn’t anybody in wrestling, its rock and roll. I look to glam rock, I look to people who perform on stage regardless of how good their music is, but how they present themselves. People like Freddie Mercury, Elton John, Liberace, the guys from Foxy Shazam and the Darkness, those are all people that stood out to me and I kind have taken from them and put it into my own act.

[Simple Fan]

Love it when EC3 throws out WWE references. Called Drew, Dixie's chosen one but paused an looked right at the camera as he said "chosen one".

[Simple Fan]

Hell, Tommaso Caimpa on Impact.

[Simple Fan]

BFG main event now a triple threat, EC3/Matt Hardy/Drew Galloway with Jeff Hardy as the special guest referee.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ugh. I had just gotten used to the idea of Jeff Hardy being at ringside, costing EC3 the match, setting up a program with him in his homestate. Now Matt Hardy is the big babyface. This is a cluster.

[Simple Fan]

Hopefully EC3 retains. With Matt being added I kind of fell like that will happen. Could use this as a Jeff Hardy heel turn if they wanted.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jeff Hardy turning heel is probably the worst thing they could do.

[Simple Fan]

I think putting the title on Galloway is. EC3 has beaten all the TNA hall of famers and is undefeated only to have a former WWE mid carder beat him? I'm all for Galloway getting the title down the line, just don't think He's a good choice to beat EC3.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I would agree with you, if it weren't for Jeff Hardy being involved, and the PPV being held in Greensboro or something. Hardy should turn face at the PPV, help Galloway, then we can move into The Hardys vs. EC3 & Tyrus and Galloway vs. Angle or something.

[Simple Fan]

ROH pretty good this week. Love The Kingdom, hope Adam Cole is the one to take the titles off Lethal. Adam Page vs Jay Brisco in a No Holds Barred match coming up.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm guessing TNA is still more painful to watch than a Dr. Jack Kevorkian assisted suicide?

[Simple Fan]

They aired the BFG main event tonight. Its not bad, the matches are good and the world title series is coming along. EC3 beat Lashly and now has 4 points.

[Rollermacka]

I'm guessing TNA is still more painful to watch than a Dr. Jack Kevorkian assisted suicide?

It's not too bad IMO. The matches are good.... the only thing that kinda is a buzzkill is that the matches are from months ago :-\

[Mr. Nerfect]

The TNA World Title Series is pretty dumb. This is not going to be as well booked as a New Japan tournament, and so many guys are just going to get wins over each other.

[Simple Fan]

It might have been something if it was live and properly planned. With the matches being taped months ago and contradicting storylines its kinda meh. EC3 should win.

[Simple Fan]

What's dumb though is Tyrus's situation. The titles vacant and he's the #1 contender but he has to wait for the World Title Series for a champion to be crowned.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That is pretty dumb. So is a top babyface just giving up the World Title he has spent the last few years working towards.

[Rollermacka]

Did anyone else catch the Dijak vs Moose match from this week's ROH? Damm.... I gotta step up my game to catch up with those big men

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm hearing more and more about Moose. Not sure if I like the name, but I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up in WWE before too long. If Sinclair wanted more from ROH, then he'd be a guy to get behind.

And Dalton Castle. Twice.

[Simple Fan]

Think Moose just resigned with ROH a couple months ago. He might be the one to take the titles of Lethal. Really like Moose and Dijak.

[Simple Fan]

Silas Young and Beer City Bruiser quit half way through the match with the Youngbucks and made the Boys finish the match.

[Simple Fan]

With WWE announcement of a tournament here s the updated TNA World Title Series Standings.



UK Group:
* Drew Galloway (6 points)
* Rockstar Spud (3 points)
* Bram (3 points)
* Grado (0 points)

Champions Group:
* Ethan Carter III (4 point)
* Austin Aries (4 point)
* Bobby Lashley (3 points)
* Mr. Anderson (0 points)

Wildcard Group:
* Mahabali Shera (6 points)
* Aiden O’Shea (3 points)
* Kenny King (3 points)
* Crazzy Steve (0 points)

Knockouts Group:
* Brooke Tessmacher (3 points)
* Gail Kim (3 points)
* Awesome Kong (3 points)
* Madison Rayne (3 points)

Tag Team Specialists Group:
* Matt Hardy (6 Points)
* Robbie E (3 Points)
* Davey Richards (1 Points)
* Eddie Edwards (1 Points)

TNA Originals Group:
* Abyss (3 Points)
* Bobby Roode (3 Points)
* James Storm (3 Points)
* Eric Young (3 Points)

Future Four Group:
* Jessie Godderz (3 Points)
* Micah (1 Points)
* Eli Drake (1 Points)
* Crimson (0 Points)

X-Division Group:
* Manik (6 Points)
* Tigre Uno (3 Points)
* DJ Z (3 Points)
* Mandrews (0 Points)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol if they run Abyss vs. one of the girls or whatever.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can honestly say I am not interested in any of those guys being champion right now.

[Simple Fan]

Just needs to go back on EC3

[Mr. Nerfect]

It shouldn't have come off him.

[Simple Fan]

With Tyrus being #1 contender I'd say EC3 will win. Matt will probably go back to teaming with Jeff once they get done with the tournament, when ever that may be.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Can't wait to see Derrick Bateman vs. Brodus Clay for the TNA World Title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sorry to sound like a dick. It's not those guys' faults. TNA has just burnt me too many times.

[Simple Fan]

Can't wait to see Derrick Bateman vs. Brodus Clay for the TNA World Title.

I know your being silly but that's one thing I like about TNA is it give talent a placeto be in matches like that. Brodus Ckay was never going to be anything more than what he was but Tyrus has a chance to be World champ. If presented the right way it works ala EC3. They've done a real good job with EC3s push and he has backed it up, dudes grest on the mic and knows how to work the crowd.

[Simple Fan]

Lol, TNA trolling James Storm. Pope labeled him the tournaments biggest disappointment on the green screen.

[Simple Fan]

EC3 has advanced to the round of 16.

[Simple Fan]

ROH was pretty good this week. Main event was The Addiction vs The Kindom. Both played heel and at one point Kaz and Taven tried to hit each other with the belt but then both layed down and acted as if the other hit him with the belt.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I know your being silly but that's one thing I like about TNA is it give talent a placeto be in matches like that. Brodus Ckay was never going to be anything more than what he was but Tyrus has a chance to be World champ. If presented the right way it works ala EC3. They've done a real good job with EC3s push and he has backed it up, dudes grest on the mic and knows how to work the crowd.

I am being silly. Derrick Bateman should have been something. Brodus Clay showed something as a bodyguard and briefly as a fun suplex machine -- but beyond that, I don't see much in the guy.

I'm now on the "just put the fucking belt back on EC3" train. You've got matches against Tyrus and Matt Hardy waiting. Now that they have a TV show they can plan for, I'd suggest they start doing it.

I really wish they'd scale things back to an hour, just to keep things feeling tighter and more fresh.

[Simple Fan]

Be funny if WWE sees that Impacts moving to Tuesdays decide to go ahead and make Smack down live. TNA would benefit from doing more live shows but will probably tape a bunch of shows after the live premiere on Pop TV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think they should keep costs down. They need to build some good will and get people buzzing about their product being on the rise again. That will mean sensible booking and maybe even word of mouth coming out of the tapings about it being worth a watch. You can go live once you have momentum.

I'd personally drop the Impact Wrestling name at this point. It might be just an aesthetic thing, but I feel that brand has taken such a beating over the past few years that they might as well just abandon it. Time to create a new show and a fresh start.

[Simple Fan]

I thought at one point they were going to cut the TNA out and just be Impact Wrestling. They really should, strange to me that a women owns the company and its still TNA in today's PC times.

[Mr. Nerfect]

A complete re-branding might be just what they need to not smell of dying cunt meat.

[Rollermacka]

You know, I never gave my "theory" on the whole DA and TNA/ ROH thing so here it is.
I think someone at Discovery heard there's a wrestling company looking for a new network. Considering most network executives probably aren't fans of professional wrestling, they didn't know the difference between TNA and WWE. So they probably thought, if we put wrestling on DA, it will get ratings like RAW gets. The realist truth is, Impact has not and probably will never do a 3 or 4 in the ratings. So when DA realized they won't get that high of ratings, they figured, if he get a cheaper wrestling show (ROH is already syndicated) we can get the same ratings at a cheaper cost.... They brought in ROH and it only does half the ratings Impact does. So at the end of the year, when it came time to renew both companies contracts, DA said fuck it and decided to do more cheap reality shows than to pay to put wrestling on tv

[Emperor Smeat]

Wouldn't really need RAW or even the lower Samckdown ratings but DA probably thought they could pull in more ad money by having wrestling than what they currently had. Problem was the opposite happened and TNA agreeing to a clause in the contract that demanded a certain level of ratings which didn't happen either.

ROH might have always been in the plan since DA teased a few times about bringing more wrestling for the channel. Just the timing of it happening ended up being bad since the TNA cancellation rumors happened at the same time. ROH is also leaving is due to ad rates being horrible for the spot even though DA barely spent anything to get the show.

PWI had an article teasing TNA basically believes they are the victim of some sort of giant conspiracy to get them off the network.
PWInsider added that there is also a feeling within TNA that ROH was used by Destination America. This could be a valid concern or just paranoia but some in TNA feel that Destination America used ROH to prevent TNA Impact Wrestling from being renewed. Apparently when TNA signed a multi-year deal with Destination America, they had to hit a certain viewership mark in a certain amount of time in order for their 2-3 year automatic renewal to kick in. The feeling is that when TNA started to get close to that mark, the stories about Impact being canceled started coming out and then ROH was brought onto the network. The concern is that the rumors led to a drop in Impact viewers as fans saw it as a lame-duck product. Then ROH was signed and some people in TNA believe ROH was brought on to detract from TNA and to dilute the viewers, essentially preventing TNA from hitting that viewership mark and getting renewed.

[Big Vic]

You know, I never gave my "theory" on the whole DA and TNA/ ROH thing so here it is.
I think someone at Discovery heard there's a wrestling company looking for a new network. Considering most network executives probably aren't fans of professional wrestling, they didn't know the difference between TNA and WWE. So they probably thought, if we put wrestling on DA, it will get ratings like RAW gets. The realist truth is, Impact has not and probably will never do a 3 or 4 in the ratings. So when DA realized they won't get that high of ratings, they figured, if he get a cheaper wrestling show (ROH is already syndicated) we can get the same ratings at a cheaper cost.... They brought in ROH and it only does half the ratings Impact does. So at the end of the year, when it came time to renew both companies contracts, DA said fuck it and decided to do more cheap reality shows than to pay to put wrestling on tvIsn't ROH reallyyyyy cheap for them though? all they have to do is press play?

[Rollermacka]

Wouldn't really need RAW or even the lower Samckdown ratings but DA probably thought they could pull in more ad money by having wrestling than what they currently had. Problem was the opposite happened and TNA agreeing to a clause in the contract that demanded a certain level of ratings which didn't happen either.

ROH might have always been in the plan since DA teased a few times about bringing more wrestling for the channel. Just the timing of it happening ended up being bad since the TNA cancellation rumors happened at the same time. ROH is also leaving is due to ad rates being horrible for the spot even though DA barely spent anything to get the show.

PWI had an article teasing TNA basically believes they are the victim of some sort of giant conspiracy to get them off the network.

Meh, I don't believe anything Meltzer says anymore than I believe Ryan Clark and his "anonymous backstage sources"

[The Destroyer]

What does Meltzer have to do with anything in that post?

[Rollermacka]

What does Meltzer have to do with anything in that post?

Isn't he a reporter for PWI?

[The Destroyer]

Nope, Meltzer runs Wrestling Observer.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That TNA article is just sad. It's always the network's fault that they fucking suck, isn't it? It was Spike's fault that they didn't "promote" TNA better, even though it was a jewel piece in its attempts to establish a combat sports block alongside Bellator, and that they used their own money to back the contracts of guys like Sting.

It's now Destination America's fault that they...what? Put more wrestling on their network? How insecure is TNA about their product that they think another wrestling show in a separate time-slot is affecting their ratings.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Isn't ROH reallyyyyy cheap for them though? all they have to do is press play?

Yeah, this is what I've heard too. It's basically a philosophical move to remove wrestling from the network. I do think that they thought TNA would bring more eyeballs to their station than what they did, but it doesn't help that Dixie Carter and her clowns are pretty much an embarrassment in everything they do.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sinclair should sink some money into ROH.

[Simple Fan]

Honestly I hope POP TV gets behind TNA better than DA did. Although like Noid said Dixie does the company no favors. Should reach note homes on POP but really need to promote the show more. Hell if Lucha Underground can buy a commercial slot for Raw why can't TNA.

[Simple Fan]

Sinclair should sink some money into ROH.

100% yes. They have a great talent and partnerships around the world. They're moving to COMET on Dec. 2, I don't get that channel but can still get them on syndication. COMET is owned by Sinclair and MGM so if that channel grows it could be good for ROH. Really feel they could do bigger arenas to but not 20,000 seat arenas though. More like a 5,000 seat arena would be great for them and make their TV product better.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Honestly I hope POP TV gets behind TNA better than DA did. Although like Noid said Dixie does the company no favors. Should reach note homes on POP but really need to promote the show more. Hell if Lucha Underground can buy a commercial slot for Raw why can't TNA.

They need to promote the show more, but how many people even realize that POP exists? They should promote what they have left, but the company has chased away all the talent that helped lend it an identity, and it's not like people were never aware of TNA. They've pissed away whatever good will existed for it on the internet and have squandered their word of mouth tools.

There's some talk that they want to bring in Goldberg or Rey Mysterio. Both would be big signings, but you have to know what to do with them. Does Goldberg go right after the title? If you put the belt back on EC3 and then have Goldberg come in, does he take the belt or do you stifle him right out the gate?

Rey Mysterio is the easier one to use, because the path with him is really simple -- put the X-Division Title on him and let him "make" Tigre Uno. At the same time, allow him to work AAA so that you can build that goodwill and maybe even be able to pinch talent when you need something fresh. AAA would surely like to get a few of their new crop of guys over too, so the occasional "AAA showcase" in TNA might be worth something to them.

Maybe you can even lock down guys like Johnny Mundo and cross-promote him with Lucha Underground and AAA? TNA might not have enough of a presence to get back on PPV, but maybe joint ventures with AAA in America might work? Okay, I have gone off on a weird tangent here, but I think they need something else, because the "TNA" brand is basically bad news at the moment.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The more I think about the TNA/AAA partnership, the more I think it would benefit both promotions. I mean, Konnan has heat with some personalities in TNA, but that sort of stuff dies down when it needs to. AAA just lost Alberto and Myzteziz. They've been using John Morrison and have done a great job with Brian Cage, but bringing in guys like The American Wolves for a heel stint, or The Hardys to pad out a big show would be so valuable to them right now. I imagine, anyway. I don't really understand the world of lucha. It seems Konnan is pretty open about wanting to "evolve" it though.

[Simple Fan]

Goldberg? Hadn't heard that but with Kurt leaving soon they could use a big name signing about the time of the debut on Pop. Goldburgs return to wrestling could be something worth promoting across different channels and get the word out about Impact on Pop TV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Goldberg himself has come out and said that TNA made him an offer. I'd say chances of him coming in are higher now that there is a confirmed television deal in place with TNA. I could see him taking a schedule that coincides with the TNA/Pop TV deal. At first I was like "Ugh, what are they even going to do with him?", but the more I think about it, the more options I see for him. A team with Bobby Lashley against EC3 and Tyrus; a cat and mouse program with Bobby Roode; a big singles match against Lashley.

At the end of the day, if the WWE don't say "fuck it" and sign Angle to some sort of deal, then it's very likely Kurt will end up working for TNA again after taking some time off. And truth be told, I could see the bloom being off The Dudleys in WWE and them ending up back in TNA. If Christian isn't satisfied with how his WWE run went and still feels he has some matches left, it's not like he left TNA on bad terms either.

I wouldn't say I am "optimistic" about TNA's future. Most of their problems come internally from not really understanding how professional wrestling should work; but I feel a sort of "rebound" effect about them at the moment. Like they've hit rock bottom and that any direction they go really has to be up, and that could create the illusion of progress.

They should really put someone sane in charge of booking. Or insane in a good way. I know Gertner and I used to share the same idea that Raven being given the book would be interesting. I'd be on board with Kevin Sullivan getting to pick a team of guys to form a creative team, possibly even on rotations so as to keep the ideas fresh (obviously you need a grand vision, but the conclusion of an arc ending with Sullivan taking a few months off in order for Jim Cornette to come back and book a "season", if you will, could keep things energetic).

But given a new creative direction, and in my opinion, allowing a lot of their talent to work shows for PWG, AAA, New Japan or wherever they want to go, might lead to more guys seeing TNA as a viable place to earn some coin. I don't know if AJ Styles would ever consider returning there, but with a different direction and a renewed focus on what he brings to the table, he could be their #1 guy very easily.

I dunno -- I don't see TNA growing too much within their own bubble. I looked over the card for one of Tommy Dreamer's "House of Hardcore" shows recently -- and it used a lot of TNA guys and actually looked really fucking good on paper. There's stuff TNA can do if they stay sensible, but I'd strongly suggest trying to wash off the TNA stink by being the "good guys," and giving independent talent more shine, but at the same time letting them work in their homebase to keep themselves growing. TNA aren't big league enough to survive as a big league. But that's just my opinion.

And sign Chris Hero. Don't know why, but I feel like he'd be awesome in TNA. Let him bring in some guys to work matches with ("Speedball" Mike Bailey) and let him carve out an association with TNA Wrestling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA have kicked Paragon Pro Wrestling off Pop. They could use that as an angle to bring some fresh blood in. No, not a "major" invasion angle, but having the current champions attack a few guys in the carpark could build to something. Jesse Sorsensen is their current Heavyweight Champion, a guy named Darin Corbin (ha) is their American Champion, and their Tag Champs are a really good looking team of a guy that looks like a norse god and a Russian guy that looks like a supermodel.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/prowrestling/images/c/c4/Alexander_Hammerstone_-_11221938.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151105141814

I don't know how well he works, but I'd be giving him a look if I were starting up a wrestling company.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He's young too. Like 24.

[Mr. Nerfect]

GFW was apparently looking for a spot on Pop TV too. I would kind of like it if Pop got behind wrestling and gave Amped a spot on their line-up too. Could they afford it? I'm not sure, but the current run is basically paid for anyway, so they might be able to just line up something where they press play and use TNA to advertise GFW and GFW to advertise TNA.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah I checked out PPW when they first came on POP but they were on at like 6 am on Saturdays and didn't set the DVR to record it. Their last episode on POP is tomorrow at 8 am.

[Simple Fan]

GFW was apparently looking for a spot on Pop TV too. I would kind of like it if Pop got behind wrestling and gave Amped a spot on their line-up too. Could they afford it? I'm not sure, but the current run is basically paid for anyway, so they might be able to just line up something where they press play and use TNA to advertise GFW and GFW to advertise TNA.

That'd be alright, I'm really hoping GFW finds an home before long. I seen where Sonjay Dutt said they already had about 15 episodes recorded so they got something to sell. Could go to WGN after TNA has snubbed them twice.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That's if WGN is interested in them. They do need a spot, but I'm not exactly *enthused* by the product (on paper, of course) that GFW has put out. It feels like a lot of guys randomly out there wrestling. I mean, I love wrestling, and I like the old-school presentation of shows (recently I've been checking out Smoky Mountain Wrestling, and NXT actually falls into that style of booking and formatting), but GFW really feels like a slapped together "If you enjoyed early days TNA" knockoff.

Jarrett was on Jim Cornette's Experience podcast and he was proud of crowning four champions from four different continents. Okay. Cool. But your headline acts are still Magnus and Chris Masters. I'm not knocking those guys, but it just feels like there's no "traction" there. It's a very gentrified and round product at the moment -- there's not enough that's sharp and that clicks.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah I get what your saying and I'll have to actually see the product to judge it but I feel Magnus is a good young talent to build a global company around. I'm not sold on the NEX GEN title name but it is what it is. Just feel like if WGN is willing to give TNA a chance and keep getting rejected why not take a chance on something new and fresh with GFW. Had big hopes when they started signing all those talent agreements but things have been slow since then.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like Magnus, but I would have gone with Shelton as the first champion and had Magnus chase. But that's subjective.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's getting to the stage where I think Jarrett should just start putting Amped up on a video sharing site so people can get a feel for the product, they can get the views and use that to point towards any success there when it comes to shopping for a network. I mean, it's pissing away those first shows, but at some point they're going to lose their relevant edge and GFW is going to need to tape more and keep doing shows anyway.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah, should have done Internet PPVs like he did with TNA to start for the first couple of shows. Agree he needs to do something before the years up. If 2016 starts and he still doesn't have a network GFW may be a lost cause by then to fans.

[Mr. Nerfect]

iPPV might have been a good way to start. :y:

[Dark One]

LONG LIVE DALTON CASTLE: http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/features/at-home-with-dalton-castle-wrestlings-most-flamboyant-star-20151203

[Simple Fan]

TNA debuts on POP TV tonight. Best of 2015 show.

[erickman]

time for a pop thread dest America is dead

[Droford]

These two weeks are best of, which i assume is 2 hours of dead air.

[Big Vic]

wasn't last 2 months "best ofs"

[Simple Fan]

No they been doing the World Title Series since Bound for Glory. I guess next week will be another best of 2015 show or something before the live debut on POP.

[Simple Fan]

ROH airs on COMET now. Idon't have it but still get them through syndication.

[Simple Fan]

2 names have been announced fro ROH's Top Prospect Tournament.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDzlzbuSE39RNhqNMrWerDM7tkGu1o7XeOPfKhOOVwtMgc_BDXSw
and
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0s4fBQ98x-qqPsGta84tuarjs9Cql2_vN33RQ_FDf_QTDbD1g

[Tom Guycott]

Lio looks like Skate from Streets of Rage series. Action Ortiz looks like Action Bronson shaved his beard and tried to make the CAW equivalent of Bam Bam Bigelow's ring gear. Can't wait!

[Simple Fan]

http://www.rohwrestling.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/news_featured_photo_full_news_node/2016tptpunisher1.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

So Destination America got rid of ROH, too?

[Simple Fan]

Yep, they left before TNA. Went to COMET which is owned by Sinclair. Still in syndication to.

[Dark One]

Going to attempt to watch tonight assuming I even get the channel and what time zone it airs in. Only fair after running them into the ground at every opportunity.

[Simple Fan]

Hope they have a good show. EC3 should win the World Title Series. Should have some surprises to.

[Droford]

Tune into TNA on Pop, right after a block of Soap Operas

Wrestling has truly found its home

[Simple Fan]

I really think it's a good spot for them. Wrestling has been called a man's soap opera so it fits with the channel. POP also plays That 70s Show so I like the channel and if TNA does good on there it could be good for he channel too.

[Droford]

TNA got a PandaTron

[Simple Fan]

Wonder if they remember Tyrus is the#1 contender.

[Dark One]

Three hour delay for it on the west coast. Don't care that much.

[Simple Fan]

Lol Bobby Rhoode won and they about played Beer Moneys music. Dead give away that Storm was showing up.

[Droford]

Maria!

[Droford]

He lloks like Armanda Alejandro Estrada i that get up

[Droford]

Y2B

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

While they last. AJ, Gallows, Machine Gun and Shinsuke Nakamura about to sign with WWE.

Sayonara

[Droford]

EC3 still champion

[Simple Fan]

Ok show. Glad EC3 won the title. Mike Bennett could be interesting, don't know if he's a heelor a face but a EC3/Bennett feud could be good.

[Dark One]

Based on results, doesn't sound like I missed much. Please confirm.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah, just a basic Impact nothing real special about it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

All that tournament to justify giving Matt Hardy an undeserved title reign just because they were in North Carolina.

EC3 back to being champ like nothing happened.

LOLTNA.

[Dark One]

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[Simple Fan]

All that tournament to justify giving Matt Hardy an undeserved title reign just because they were in North Carolina.

EC3 back to being champ like nothing happened.

LOLTNA.

Puts EC3 over more. Makes sense to me, it's not like nothing happened either. EC3 can cheat to win but if you cheat to beat him he has the power to fix it, plus he won the tournament so it puts him over pretty well. Now the lolTNA moment will be if they forget that Tyrus is the #1 contender.

[Droford]

Based on results, doesn't sound like I missed much. Please confirm.

You missed Maria in borderline unwatchable standard definition

[Heisenberg]

SD Dixie didn't do ANYTHING for me. WTH

[Heisenberg]

First time seeing Eli Drake, seems to be a good promo cooking

[Simple Fan]

Yeah I like Eli Drake but don't really know what they are going for with him. Seems very similar to Mr. Anderson's character without the intro and stuff. Don't even know if Mr. Anderson's still on the roster really.

[Heisenberg]

Poop TV has to go HD or else I won't stick around for it. I'm trying to give TNA a chance this year. Really like a lot of the talent they have there.


Cringeworthy moment of the night was hearing "CREATURES" during the Hardy theme. I'm sure people with Pacemakers there died when that went off

[Rollermacka]

Overall not a bad show, my "issue" on this show was less about the wresting, and more about the production side of thing. Multiple times people fumbled over their lines, Dixie, Jesse Goderz, and of course, Bram saying "2006" is going to be his year. There were a couple of misques on the music, anybody else notice the Beer Money theme start after Roode beat Bram?
On the plus side, I really liked Eli Drake's promo as well as Mike Bennetts. It may of just been me, but Jade really shined in that Knockout's match. The matches themselves were pretty good, that piledriver from EY looked disgusting. It seems like if TNA can "fix the little things" they can become a serious number 2.... but then again that's been said about TNA for years :-\

[Heisenberg]

That mishap with BRAM could actually put him over if they let him ride that gimmick of being confused about what year he's in, slow pan into his face and then end the segment

[Simple Fan]

Bennett and Maria still on ROH to for awhile. Next week's main event is The Young Bucks vs Red Dragon vs The Kingdom in a street fight.

[The Destroyer]

Not that much longer, that's the final match they did for ROH.

[Simple Fan]

Thought the Kingdom was going to break up this week but they should next week unless they just kick out Maria and Bennett. ROH has some great tag teams though so it won t hurt them to bad.

[Ruien]

Why would ROH get rid of Maira?

[Simple Fan]

Think it was Maria and Bennett's decision and TNA might have offered them more money.

[Droford]

That mishap with BRAM could actually put him over if they let him ride that gimmick of being confused about what year he's in, slow pan into his face and then end the segment

Bram Truth?

[XL]

I watched earlier in the week, maybe my expectations were too high. Not at all taken with the idea of Beer Money getting back together, and whilst the arrival of Bennett is welcome, there was rumour they'd end up in WWE/NXT and I'd probably have preferred that.

EC3 as champ is cool but it basically resets things to where they were 2 months ago.

[Simple Fan]

More announced for ROH Top Prospect Tounament
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Shaheem Ali

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[Simple Fan]

Knockouts street fight on Pop.

[Simple Fan]

Like the Eric Young/Bram pairing so far.

[Simple Fan]

Gabi from Tough Enough is TNAs newest Knockout. Raquel, had a vignette this week dont know when she will debut.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Gabi from Tough Enough is TNAs newest Knockout. Raquel, had a vignette this week dont know when she will debut.

I guess 10th place is good enough for the 5th worst wrestling company around.

[Simple Fan]

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[Big Vic]

TNA Title spolierRead on wikipidea the matt hardy is champ again.... lol why?

[Simple Fan]

Hate that they took the title off EC3 so quick but they really did a good job doing it. Turning EC3 face might be a good choice. Still made him look strong in defeat though. Heel Matt Hardys alright.

[Simple Fan]

TNA Title spolierRead on wikipidea the matt hardy is champ again.... lol why?

Basically starting EC3's face turn. Matt pulled out all kinds of heel tatics to try and win (low blow, Reby handed him a hammer to use) then Tyrus turned on EC3. Matt hit him with the title, won and announced its the era of Big Money Matt. Pretty good Last Man Standing match though.

[Big Vic]

Hmmm ok it makes sense :y:

[Rollermacka]

Hmmm ok it makes sense :y:

It's not a bad idea for them to turn him face. He's extremely charismatic, and they have a few potential "main event heels" in the future (Eli Drake, Bram, Jessie Godderz, Mike Bennett) and the only really strong face they have right now is Drew Galloway. It wouldn't be bad to build a second one, now

[Simple Fan]

Knew he would turn face eventually and I like how they did it. The Hardys contracts are up in February and giving him the title might be some insensitive to resign with them. Big Money Matt seems like it could be a good gimmick for him. Dont know if they have forgot about Tyrus being # 1 contender or not, EC3 mentioned it but I dont see Tyrus faceing Matt after he joined him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Heel Matt Hardy works in theory. Babyface Matt is a bit dry at this point, but I can buy a Hardy clinging to relevance by aligning with a powerhouse and basically screwing over the younger, cooler guy -- the guy that Matt Hardy used to be.

I see the WWE snapping up The Hardys in February if their contracts are up. The WWE are going to want to stack WrestleMania.

[Rollermacka]

Knew he would turn face eventually and I like how they did it. The Hardys contracts are up in February and giving him the title might be some insensitive to resign with them. Big Money Matt seems like it could be a good gimmick for him. Dont know if they have forgot about Tyrus being # 1 contender or not, EC3 mentioned it but I dont see Tyrus faceing Matt after he joined him.

Heel Matt Hardy works in theory. Babyface Matt is a bit dry at this point, but I can buy a Hardy clinging to relevance by aligning with a powerhouse and basically screwing over the younger, cooler guy -- the guy that Matt Hardy used to be.

I see the WWE snapping up The Hardys in February if their contracts are up. The WWE are going to want to stack WrestleMania.

Hmm, I HOPE they keep them around past Feb, it would seem really rushed to have Matt lose the title again a month after winning it (and make EC3 a three time champ in less than a year). It looks like they want to do Matt vs Jeff first (with Jeff being the face) and eventually turn it into Heel Matt vs Face EC3 after that. I ASSUME EC3 gets the belt back then, and he moves on to a feud with Mike Bennett (after that little rendezvous backstage last week) and etc, etc from there....

[Simple Fan]

Yeah and you can have EC3 and Tyrus while they work out tge Jeff/Matt situation. Maybe even have it be if EC3 beats Tyrus he looses his championship opportunity that he won back at BFG.

[Rollermacka]

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We may not of been at TNA, but I told him if he needed a new bodyguard....

[Simple Fan]

Hell yeah thats way cool. Way to go with them high fives.

[Rollermacka]

Hell yeah thats way cool. Way to go with them high fives.

Thanks, did a tag match with him for a local show. Great guy, great match, he gave me the rub. The best part.... someone (we'll just call them a "smark") asked him after the show, when are you going to NXT? He didn't necessarily shit on he guy (which I probably would haveif I washim) but he pretty much said don't believe everything you read. He said TNA pays him really well/ treats him right, the company is steadily progressing. He said, he's a star on a national product... why would he go anywhere else?

[Simple Fan]

Yeah, TNA has done a tremendous job building him up and with his babyface turn there is no doubt he'll be the face of that company going forward. One of my favorite wrestlers right now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

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We may not of been at TNA, but I told him if he needed a new bodyguard....

You kind of remind me of rock star Cesaro for some reason. That's a good thing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I could see Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy vs. EC3 down the line. The plan should be to move the title on EC3 and have Mike Bennett built up and ready to go.

[Simple Fan]

Really like what TNA has done with the main event and the women. The tag divison is a little dry as its the Wolves and Beer Money as the only two legitimate teams. I like the Bram/EY pairing but dont think it will be any thing long term. Dont like the Jesse/Eli Drake pairng though. Hate the King of the Mountian Championship and wish it was still simply the TNA Television Championship but it is what it is. Feel like the X Division gets the most over looked and is pretty much a cruiserweight title now. I think Mohabali Sheria/Koya (not sure about thst spelling) would be great for the X Divison and used kind of like a Samoa Joe type character.

[Rollermacka]

You kind of remind me of rock star Cesaro for some reason. That's a good thing.

Cesaro was one of/ if not the coolest person I met when I did my "15 mins" with the WWE last year.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That is so cool.

[Simple Fan]

ROH Top Prospect tournament starts this week. Supposedly this guy trained Sascha Banks

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He won his first round match against Shameem Ali.

[Simple Fan]

Really dont like Kyle O'Reilly being in the main event for ROH 14th Anniversary show. Lethal vs Adam Cole vs Kyle O'Reilly for the ROH World Championship. Hope either Cole or Lethal win. Dont really like Red Dragon as a tag team but woukd raher them stat as a team than go into singles competition

[Mr. Nerfect]

Well, here's to Brian Fury winning the thing.

[Simple Fan]

Jeff Hardy has resigned with TNA.

[drave]

Glad he retired.

[Simple Fan]

lol Tyrus carring Matt and Reby's baby to the ring.

[Simple Fan]

Feast or Fired

[Simple Fan]

Grado definitely got the fired case, I hope.

[Simple Fan]

Drew Galloway, Eli Drake, and James Storm grab the remaining cases.

[Simple Fan]

Not sure whats in the cases necessarily, I know one is fired and one is a World title shot, ones a Tag team title shot but Pope and Mathews were talking about their being a King of the Mountian case so I dont know if their is a X division case. Will find out later at the reveal I guess.

[Simple Fan]

Gregory Helms vs Tigre Uno might be pretty good. Havent seen Helms wrestle in a while though.

[Simple Fan]

Crazy Steve and Abyss seems like a intriguing team. Definitely the best use of Crazy Steve since he got to TNA. Dont know who this chick is though.

[Simple Fan]

Ok, no X divisions case Eli Drake got the King of the Mountian case, Storm got the Tag team title shot, Drew got the Heavyweight title shot so Grado gets fired.

[Simple Fan]

Matt vs Jeff should be pretty good. Hoping EC3 shows up at some point.

[Simple Fan]

No match at all, EY and Bram came down and attacked Jeff and piledrived him through a table.

[Heisenberg]

Pop the bubbly and snort some crack, Jeff Hardy has signed a new multi-year contract with TNA, Dixie you genius!!!

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[erickman]

Crazy Steve and Abyss seems like a intriguing team. Definitely the best use of Crazy Steve since he got to TNA. Dont know who this chick is though.

yeah who is she, I was thinking she might be daffney, I would love for her to return with crazy steve and abyss

[Simple Fan]

Daffney was my first thought as well but it was kind of hard to tell with the facepaint and her hair.

[Ruien]

Can you watch TNA episodes on their website? Sounds like it is getting interesting and want to give it a shot.

[Simple Fan]

Not sure but they usually keep their Youtube channel up to date with clips and stuff if you didnt want to watch the full episode. Poptv.com has the premier up on their website they might add more later, I dont know.

[Rollermacka]

Daffney was my first thought as well but it was kind of hard to tell with the facepaint and her hair.

It's a female known before as Courtney Rush, I really dig their theme song
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I can't help but wonder if "The Menagerie" would of bombed as bad as they did, if instead of being all happy with balloons and stilt guys.... they came out all twisted and demented like "The Decay" seems to be.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No word on tna rick the legend coming to tna? Man. I believed that guy.

[Simple Fan]

The Menagerie really seemed to be intriguing with the vignettes but then they debuted and it was just silly. I guess it was supposed to be but really the only thing good that came of it was Rebel. Like The Decay so far and Crazy Steve seems to really be invested in the character.

[Rollermacka]

The Menagerie really seemed to be intriguing with the vignettes but then they debuted and it was just silly. I guess it was supposed to be but really the only thing good that came of it was Rebel. Like The Decay so far and Crazy Steve seems to really be invested in the character.

I think there was a lot of "potential" behind the Menagerie, I just think they were lost when they tried to make them family friendly faces. I think if they would of had The Freak with some kinda crazy mask (like a Slipkot style mask) using Crazzy Steve as a weapon, while Knux was a twisted and demented ring leader.... it would of been pretty badass

[Simple Fan]

The Decay seem to be that, dont know if they'll grow any or not but I like Crazy Steve & Abyss combination and would be fine with it if it was just them with the clown chick. Should be intreseting to see what they do.

[erickman]

The Decay seem to be that, dont know if they'll grow any or not but I like Crazy Steve & Abyss combination and would be fine with it if it was just them with the clown chick. Should be intreseting to see what they do.

yeah I want to see abyss get a good angle, Courtney rush looks legit she can wrestle, but I wish she would have got riddle me this riddle me that right.

[The Destroyer]

Awesome Kong's gotten canned as a result of that backstage fight she had with Reby Sky on the UK tour.

[Simple Fan]

Im cool with that, they made her the leader of the Dollhouse and I didnt hate it but feel like Rebel would be a better choice.

[Mr. Nerfect]

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Is Rebel still with TNA?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I absolutely fucking HATE the idea of a match where a winner gets fired. How fucking dumb is that?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, The King of the Mountain Title is a fucking stupid idea. They don't have the roster depth or nuanced booking to justify anything other than the core four titles right now. Maybe in a few years they can bring in an Intercontinental Title or something.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah Rebel is with the Dollhouse and with Kong out I assume she becomes the leader. I hate the King of the Mountian titke as well and wish they would just change it back to the TV title. Thought it was a gift to Jeff Jarrett anyway but I guess not. I thiught it would have been kind of cool if it was used in GFW and only defended in KotM matches and could go to different promotions hes alligned with. Wish they would put more focus on the X division to. Feel like they just treat it a a cruiserweight title now but I do like the new champion Trevor Lee

[erickman]

they may end dollhouse and rebrand the 3 girls left

[Simple Fan]

Maybe, I like the Dollhouse though, hate that Taryn left but feel like Rebel would be a perfect fit as the leader. Should be some good shows comung up, they always do well in the UK and makes the show look alot better with a bigger crowd.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The problem is that with The Dollhouse they've got three girls aligned and no one to go against them. They can focus on their individual personalities as singles acts. It's fucked up Taryn's not there anymore.

[Mr. Nerfect]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

DJ Z needs to go back to being Zema Ion.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Trevor Lee is a good choice for X-Division Champion. I'd like for Gregory Helms to step up and challenge him at some point, steal the title, then drop it back to him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

How Bobby Lashley isn't the World Champion is a bit baffling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lashley should be the World Champion, and this Hardy/EC3 stuff should arguably be over some sort of secondary championship. That's if we're really being honest with ourselves.

[Mr. Nerfect]

With Davey Richards injured, I hope they have Eddie Edwards form a new team with someone to take on Beer Money. I'm not sure who they could choose for that role though. Who is hot on the indies?

[Rollermacka]

How Bobby Lashley isn't the World Champion is a bit baffling.

I'm not exactly sure why.... but I really liked the match between Aiden O'Shea and Bobby Lashley.


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As far as Raquel (Gabi) goes. First, I hated it (the ol' "TNA signs another WWE reject" feel)..... but then I found out she did go to the Wild Samoan's school and got trained prior to her time in TNA.
So at the end of the day (taking out the "Tough Enough" aspect) she's an IBBF Pro, trained by the Wild Samoans, very marketable..... I don't totally hate seeing her on my tv now

[Mr. Nerfect]

I haven't seen that match, but I like the idea of Aiden O'Shea. He just sounds like a no frills brawler type. Run with that. Not every guy needs to be flash and gimmick. Some guys could get over by not having time for that.

[Simple Fan]

Lashley should be the World Champion, and this Hardy/EC3 stuff should arguably be over some sort of secondary championship. That's if we're really being honest with ourselves.

Eh, Lashly is good and all and would be a fine champion but I think they should hold off on that until he gets a MMA title shot. EC3 is fucking awesome and doesnt deserve to be in a secondary title proram in my opinion. Dudes kegit and im looking forward to his face run.

[Rollermacka]

I haven't seen that match, but I like the idea of Aiden O'Shea. He just sounds like a no frills brawler type. Run with that. Not every guy needs to be flash and gimmick. Some guys could get over by not having time for that.

I like O'Shea and his "bully"ish gimmick (if you can check out his match from the One Night Only PPV against Rockstar Spud. With that said, I still think he's missing "something". I think he'd be great in the tag division. Bring in a "big bruiser" to team with and I do already wrestle in those pants..... :shifty:

[Simple Fan]

The problem is that with The Dollhouse they've got three girls aligned and no one to go against them. They can focus on their individual personalities as singles acts. It's fucked up Taryn's not there anymore.

Yes miss Taryn so much. S he had just started getting everything to click as far as her character and her in ring work to.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Rollermacka, you are too legit for TNA. But if you'd be a good partner for O'Shea.

[Simple Fan]

I thought I read somewhere that O'Shea signed with NJPW. Think the UK shows are his last with TNA.

[Nicky Fives]

O'Shea is terrible.... one show he has an Irish accent, one show he doesn't.... feels 100% like a Sheamus knockoff.....

[Simple Fan]

Agree with Nicky Fives although I haven't seen to many of his matches, I haven't liked what I've seen from him. Liked his Jay Bradley character better.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He shouldn't be forcing an Irish character. He should just be a bad ass Irish decent guy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Japan is an awesome place for him to head. In a few years, he'll be ready for a WWE call-back as a ruthless brawler who has been all over the world.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ryan Braddock - World Champion.

[Simple Fan]

Not sure if he is going there or not. Thought I read somthing about it but couldn't find anything when I went to look it up earlier today.

[Rollermacka]

I thought I read somewhere that O'Shea signed with NJPW. Think the UK shows are his last with TNA.

Japan is an awesome place for him to head. In a few years, he'll be ready for a WWE call-back as a ruthless brawler who has been all over the world.

I think you guys are thinking of Will Ospreay who got signed by NJPW (I think TNA is using "local talents" for shows, and he was on the UK tour with them).
I don't really see much of a difference between the O'Shea gimmick and the Jay Bradley one, outside of the fact that he's of "Irish decent" (I don't think I've ever heard him fake an accent) and has different gear (personally, I like the pants/ wifebeater on him more than traditional trunks).

[Simple Fan]

Yea that was who it was Will Ospreay, Don't know what made me think of Oshea.

[Simple Fan]

I just liked his look better as Jay Bradley.

[Simple Fan]

Tyrus just looks funny holding little baby Maxle.

[Simple Fan]

Never liked the Wolves in ROH but I like what TNA has done with them. To bad the TNA Tag Team titles are cursed.

[Simple Fan]

Love that TNA still allows piledrivers. Jade has a pretty nice cradle piledriver.

[Rollermacka]

Love that TNA still allows piledrivers. Jade has a pretty nice cradle piledriver.

I actually really liked that match. I always thought Madison Rayne is kinda "underrated" IMO. She is soo much better in that ring that Velvet or Angelina, I think she's one of the better Knockouts on the roster

[erickman]

Tyrus just looks funny holding little baby Maxle.

why does mat not have a babysitter i feel sorry for the ugly kid, he allready saw kong beat his moms ass.

[Simple Fan]

Big Money Matt can't afford one? Would like to see Tyrus on his own. Maybe once EC3 regains the title Tyrus will leave Matt and go solo. He is the #1 contender.

[Simple Fan]

I actually really liked that match. I always thought Madison Rayne is kinda "underrated" IMO. Shes soo much better in that ring that Velvet or Angelina, I think she's one of the better Knockouts on the roster

Always thought she was the best wrestler of the Beautiful People. Knockouts division is the best women's wrestling in the world in my opinion. Gail Kim has done wonders for the division. Love that they let them do cage, ladder, last knockout standing matches to.

[Innovator]

Always thought she was the best wrestler of the Beautiful People. Knockouts division is the best women's wrestling in the world in my opinion. Gail Kim has done wonders for the division. Love that they let them do cage, ladder, last knockout standing matches to.

That's a great take for the state of women's wrestling.

In 2007.

[Simple Fan]

They still do all that though. TNA has been great to the Knockouts in letting them do just as much as the men do. They have been the best women's wrestling since 2007 I would say.

[Rollermacka]

They still do all that though. TNA has been great to the Knockouts in letting them do just as much as the men do. They have been the best women's wrestling since 2007 I would say.

I don't know if their division is the best around now.... I think Gail, Jade and Madison are the three best workers and Marti looks good at times.... butt Rebel is very hard to watch (so are Velvet and Angelina even after all these years). I heard they fired Brooke (because she wanted more money) and Kong's gone which sucks. At the ONO special, they had the blond chick from Tough Enough (the one Tanner was obsessed with) and Diana Poloza (can't spell her last name) debut. Supposedly they signed another talent from Shimmer, and I am really interested in seeing what Rosemary is like in the ring. Things are looking bright for the Knockouts in my opinion...

[Mr. Nerfect]

Eh, Lashly is good and all and would be a fine champion but I think they should hold off on that until he gets a MMA title shot. EC3 is fucking awesome and doesnt deserve to be in a secondary title proram in my opinion. Dudes kegit and im looking forward to his face run.

It wasn't a knock on EC3. He's just the sort of awesome act that is in the "paying dues" segment of his career. Matt Hardy is a heel veteran that is on the way down and grabbing whatever branch he can to remain relevant. The two fighting over a mid-card title makes perfect sense and is good aesthetically for the company.

Even if Lashley isn't around all the time, he can give off the presence of a traveling World Champion. The dude is a legit killer. Kurt Angle had the legitimacy to get in the ring with him. Jeff Hardy has the name and the popularity. Maybe Davey Richards could have been slotted in as a "plucky young guy fighting above his weight." Bobby Roode and James Storm could also be main event players in TNA. But no one else is really there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Actually, Bram has something too. The guy is a piece of shit, but pieces of shit are a good fit for wrestling and you know he's not going to be back in the WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And maybe Ken Anderson. But they've fucked him up a lot.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jim Mitchell could be the manager for Lashley and then turn on him in a match with Bram. :y:

[Rollermacka]

So (personal) highlights from the last two weeks of Impact.

I liked the Monster's Ball tag team match. I liked the "creative spots" (like Rosemary pouring the tacts on Eddie's head and trying to hit it with a chair) more than just seeing someone get slammed into tacts.

Personally.... I hate to say this..... I didn't hate Mahabali Shera's performance in the tag match. I still laugh at Grado, personally. Hopefully they'll finish this gimmick and do something alittle more "serious" with him

I liked the Bram/ EY vs Beer Money feud. I think the cage match should be the end of it and both teams should go their separate ways.

I may be in the minority..... but I like what they're doing with Matt Hardy. I think he's really working hard to keep up with EC3, it's turning out to be a really good feud.

[Simple Fan]

I like Big Money Matt, the Spud turn surprised me. EC3 is one of the best booked characters in wrestling an his face turn is going pretty good and Matt is perfect for the story.

Would like to see Shera go after the X division title and be a Samoa Joe type character. He's way better than a dancing Indian. Kinda wish he would have kept the Koya name.

Feel like the TNA Tag Team titles are cursed. Seems like anyone who holds them one of them gets hurt. Could see Beer Money having a long reign. TNA needs some more legitimate tag teams though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Matt Hardy is a good performer and some of the feuds he has been involved in have been quite memorable. I think he's a good choice to go against EC3. I take it that he's added Rockstar Spud to his entourage? That's a good move. A little comedy guy is a double-edged sword. Gertner said it best when he said that it hurts anyone that they beat and it doesn't help anyone that beats them. As an annoying piece of shit, people might like to see him get beaten up.

Mahabali Sheera could have a very bright future. Young guy and he's trying to get his shit over. He's probably got a long way to go and jamming him down people's throats is not the way to go. I don't know if TNA is the place to get better either. Dude would be better off in Japan, working in the indies or trying his hand out in NXT. Buuuut, if he's happy, more power to him.

Sheera should probably be a heel though. Cocky Indian guy who thinks he's the best. He'd be good with Matt Hardy too, but I don't want to add too many to those ranks. Sheera & Spud as a heel team could work though.

[Rollermacka]

Mahabali Sheera could have a very bright future. Young guy and he's trying to get his shit over. He's probably got a long way to go and jamming him down people's throats is not the way to go. I don't know if TNA is the place to get better either. Dude would be better off in Japan, working in the indies or trying his hand out in NXT. Buuuut, if he's happy, more power to him.

Sheera should probably be a heel though. Cocky Indian guy who thinks he's the best. He'd be good with Matt Hardy too, but I don't want to add too many to those ranks. Sheera & Spud as a heel team could work though.


I don't "Hate" Shera, I (in some ways) feel bad for him. Considering he's only been wrestling for a couple of years.... he's not as bad as people think he is. With that said, I think TNA "overexposed" him in a lot of ways. I think he should of only did squashes for like a year, so he can develop a bit of "comfortability" in the ring, then he could start working towards longer matches and more high profile feuds.

[Rollermacka]

On to this week's episode, I liked Angle vs Roode. Both are amazing wrestlers, both always put on great matches, only "complaint" is that Roode should of won (but it's understandable with this being Angle's "next to last match ever")
Wasn't "crazy" about the Jimmy Havoc/ Abyss match.... no pun intended :shifty: I'll try to explain it, but it felt to me like when an indie company brings in a wrestling star to wrestle their top star (if that makes any sense) That's not a knock on Jimmy Havoc, he's a great "monster" in his own right (I've enjoyed his stuff in ICW) but when you put him in the ring with a guy like Abyss whose half a foot taller and outweighs him by 200 lbs.... it just looks off to me.
EY vs Big Damo..... I expected more :/ Same feel as the Havoc match, I watch ICW (where Damo is also from) but it just didn't have "it" for me
I think the EC3 story is progressing well. I think they're building the storyline well, and he will come out of it as the main face in the company.
I still like Grado..... still not sure why
Jade is seemingly finally getting that title push.... no complaints on that.
I like the feud between Bennett and Galloway. Both guys have very bright futures in the company, I hope this builds up both guys to get to that "next level"

[Simple Fan]

Drew Galloway is the new TNA World Heavyweight Champion. Cashed in his Feast or Fired briefcase.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Another Ex-WWE guy picks up the low-hanging fruit. It's been 2 years since a non-former WWE guy has had the belt (Eric Young.)

[Big Vic]

Eric Young was in WWE?

[Simple Fan]

No EY was the last non WWE guy to hold the title.

[Big Vic]

Oh my bad, do we really consider EC3 an Ex WWE guy? He made his name in TNA. Was barely on TV in WWE.

[Simple Fan]

I don't but he did spend time there so you could call him a WWE guy I suppose.

[Savio]

I think if you do that you gotta consider AJ Styles an ex WCW guy

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

AJ didn't spend 4 years in WCW's system. EC3 did spend 4 years in WWE.

[Ruien]

Who was EC3 in WWE?

[erickman]

AJ didn't spend 4 years in WCW's system. EC3 did spend 4 years in WWE.

damn ec3 was on nxt for 3 years guess he was smart jumping to tna

[Simple Fan]

Who was EC3 in WWE?

Derrick Batemen

[Simple Fan]

Bobby Roode and Eric Young leaving TNA.

According to sources, both Bobby Roode and Eric Young have asked for their releases from TNA Wrestling and will be finishing up their runs at tonight’s tapings in Orlando. Working this weekend’s events were part of their agreements. Both men have been a part of the company since 2004.

TNA issued the following statement: “Impact Wrestling has come to terms on the release of veteran wrestlers Bobby Roode and Eric Young (Jeremy Fritz). Bobby and Eric have been valuable members of The Impact Roster since 2004 and we wish them nothing but the best in their careers going forward.

Bobby had this to say earlier today, “To the guys and girls I got to work with for the past 12 years, Impact Wrestling, the office and everyone associated with me getting to live this dream, I say thank you. It is time for me to move on to the next chapter in my life. This has been amazing.”

Eric Young had this to say. “Thank you. Thank you to everyone who watched me for the past 12 years. Thank you to Impact Wrestling. I wish everyone here nothing but the best going forward.”

Executive Vice President of Creative and Television, John Gaburick added, “Bobby and Eric are true professionals. We salute them for the 12 years they gave TNA.

With a Superstar roster including EC3, James Storm, Drew Galloway, Jeff and Matt Hardy, “The Destroyer” Bobby Lashley, Gail Kim, The Wolves, Maria Kanellis-Bennett and “The Miracle” Mike Bennett we couldn’t be more excited about showcasing the finest wrestling in the world for the Impact fans.”

In the coming weeks be sure to see the final matches of both Bobby Roode and Eric Young on Impact Wrestling at 9PM EST on Pop TV

[erickman]

both belt holders, those tag belts are cursed. wonder why they are leaving now with the new tv deal.

[Simple Fan]

Tag Team titles are cursed. Really need Bro Mans back together now. Wouldn't mind if EY took the King of the Mountain championship with him.

[erickman]

wonder if gfw has a tv deal and if ey is giving them that belt

[Simple Fan]

Probably not if GFW was going to have it they would have taken it when they were on Impact. Haven't heard anything on a TV deal either. Just don't like the KotM name for the title and wish it would go back to the TV title.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

RIP Team Canada 2004-2016.

[erickman]

RIP Team Canada 2004-2016.

they were signed the same day and left tna the same day that was wild.

[Simple Fan]

To bad Storms not leaving. Roode, Young and Storm could come in to NXT or WWE in a 3 man group and do somethings, kind of like the Radicals.

[erickman]

To bad Storms not leaving. Roode, Young and Storm could come in to NXT or WWE in a 3 man group and do somethings, kind of like the Radicals.

didn't storm just sign a new contract he is the one screwed no more beer money tee shirts, an he could have stayed with nxt

[Simple Fan]

Yea really hate it for Storm. Dude is a great tag team wrestler and I don't see him being put in the TNA title picture anytime soon. Maybe he could find a new tag partner but I don't know who.

[Rollermacka]

Yea really hate it for Storm. Dude is a great tag team wrestler and I don't see him being put in the TNA title picture anytime soon. Maybe he could find a new tag partner but I don't know who.

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Oh who can they get to team with Storm.....

[Simple Fan]

I'd be fine with that. Maybe even put Gail with them again. AMW never won the TNA Tag Team Titles so that would give them a goal. FANs tag division is dwindling with all the injured and people leaving. They just sign those French guys from NXT so maybe they'll be a tag team.

[Simple Fan]

Total of 5 New signings for TNA

TNA has officially announced the signings of five new stars. The list includes the already-revealed Thomas LaRuffa and Mikael Vierge (Marcus Louis and Sylvester LeFort) and Laura Dennis (Cherry Bomb), as well as Jesse Guilmette and Marshe Rockett.

Guilmette is best known on the independent scene as Pepper Parks and is married to Dennis. Rockett is known as Mr. M80 and according to the press release, “impressed Impact Wrestling officials at a recent tryout and was signed immediately.”

The release adds, “We welcome all five of these amazing athletes as the newest members of the TNA IMPACT WRESTLING roster and look forward to seeing them in action on IMPACT WRESTLING in the near future.”

[Simple Fan]

According to sources, TNA is expected to complete a deal with their potential investors soon. The site says there’s a feeling in the TNA office that whatever happens is going to go down soon, and that changes are coming to the company.

Sources in the office indicated that TNA is near the eleventh hour on a new deal and that there are two potential groups. The favorite between the two investor groups has two people from within TNA involved, both of whom have wrestling experience. The site adds that Dixie Carter is trying to work a deal that would see her retain control of the company but that the majority of TNA will be sold one way or another.

[Ruien]

Does Dixie have any other businesses? Are they successful?

[Simple Fan]

IMPACT WRESTLING today announced a mutual decision with TNA Knockouts veteran Velvet Sky to not renew her agreement.

Sky’s final in-ring appearance with TNA occurred in Orlando earlier today and will broadcast on an upcoming episode of IMPACT WRESTLING seen Tuesday nights at 9/8c on Pop.

“This has been my home for 10 years and, no matter what happens in my future, I will never forget where I’ve come from or the people who have helped me get where I am,” said Sky. “Thank you to everyone at TNA – from talent to production to crew -who has helped me do what I love.”

Is she still dating Bubba Ray? Could see her coming in to NXT.

[erickman]

Is she still dating Bubba Ray? Could see her coming in to NXT.

I would like her to bring love with her and resume a great womans heel tag team, or put her with eva and be red and gold.

[erickman]

also looks like so cal val is back I kind of liked her better then Christy now is she still with the pope.

[Simple Fan]

Would rather have Madison with her but I do like the Eva idea. Think Eva could learn a lot from her to.

[Simple Fan]

also looks like so cal val is back I kind of liked her better then Christy now is she still with the pope.

I didn't even know she was with Pope.

[Simple Fan]

Does Dixie have any other businesses? Are they successful?

Not that I know of. She had a sports and music representative company before TNA. According to Wikipedia her parents payed $250,000 for 71% of TNA. She just runs the company doesn't really own it. Panda Energy is her parents company.

[erickman]

I was talking about so cal val she used to be with the popo

[Simple Fan]

Yeah I know you were I just never knew she was with Pope. Probably still is since she's replacing Christy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Slammiversary card is actually shaping up to look pretty decent:

* Drew Galloway vs. Bobby Lashley for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship match -- Must Win by Knockout or Submission

* Ethan Carter III vs. Mike Bennett

* Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy

* Gail Kim vs. Maria

It's just a shame that TNA generally sucks around the talent.